Revolver Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Girls don't like me because I'm nice. But to me its the same thing in that its not because your nice or smart its because that person just isn't physically attracted to you. But my thing is why don't the and we call them for the purpose of this thread "smart girls" don't get the Same amount of slander and ridicule "nice guys" get? For example I've never seen the smart girls equivalent to the roasting that the entire Internet gave the "nice guys" of OKcupid(which was hilarious BTW) I know people will say they don't talk about it as often but I disagree. Since I've been in middle school the number of "smart girls" and "nice guys" ive known/heard of have been close to 50/50. Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I would reply, but you need to use English. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Guys don't like smart girls? Since when? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I would reply, but you need to use English. Translation of his post: Whenever a man (or woman) says that no one likes him because he is "too _____ (insert any non-physical trait here)," it simply means he is not physically attractive enough and doesn't want to accept it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Guys don't like smart girls? Since when? No, OP is suggesting that people use phrases like "he doesn't like me because I'm too smart" or "she doesn't like me because I'm too nice" as rationalization for the truth; that is, "he/she doesn't like me because I'm not physically attractive enough." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
candie13 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 In my experience, if a girl says "he doesn't like me because I'm smart", I'd think the girl is obnoxious and thinks she holds the answer to all God's questions. Nobody likes a smartass, IMO. I think actually guys like girls who are smart, as long as they're not abrasive... also some might enjoy them a bit more tough - all part of that teasing. Again, from my experience, is guy says "she doesn't like me because I'm nice", that means that the woman doesn't find him exciting. Being exciting is again, very important, in order to raise and keep the interest of a woman. I believe some men are interesting, but they need more time to be themselves, to really show how they are, their personality, their likes and dislikes... chances are, a "nice guy" may have more chances with the opposite sex, because they have more layers... whereas a "smart girl"... none! Nothing more ugly than an ugly personality, IMO! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 For example I've never seen the smart girls equivalent to the roasting that the entire Internet gave the "nice guys" of OKcupid(which was hilarious BTW) It's because those guys aren't nice. They are bogus. Hence the roasting. They are passive aggressive which is not the same as being nice. 13 Reasons Why Nice Guys Are The Worst 5 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I've never been told I'm not liked because I'm too smart. And I'm sorry, mensa says i am (! ) If anything, men have been attracted by that, I'm sure. They like stimulating conversation, a woman who can talk about more than just babies and kittens, and I have honestly been told, rather, that "brains are sexually attractyive, and a guy wants to shaft a broad with a brain, because dumb = easy..... And I'm just quoting, not necessarily agreeing. But I think the opposite applies when women date 'smart' guys... So if a guy is told by a woman that he's too smart to date - there may be a grain of truth in that. What I am about to offer is highly generalised, but is still true, in some quarters. Women are sometimes made nervous by their male peers, because a woman - even if she is bright and intelligent - is intimidated by an intelligent man - because she's conditioned to feel inferior to such a person. It's true, I have witnessed this for myself, in several sphere of work. There are few elevated positions occupied by women, in comparison to the number occupied by men. And women who DO occupy those positions are savy, articulate, feminine, yet hard-nosed, abrasive and sometimes ruthless. They have to compete as women in a so-called 'man's world'. So smart women are eminently phukkable. Smart men - who broadcast or reveal how smart they are - are less so. Generally speaking. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 So smart women are eminently phukkable. Smart men - who broadcast or reveal how smart they are - are less so. Generally speaking. You could argue if they were that smart socially, they wouldn't broadcast it so freely. It might be the reason why they aren't so haveable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Treasa Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 As someone who has the answers to all of God's questions (wait, why would God have questions? Doesn't God know everything? I'm just teasing you, candie13, love ), I've never had a guy who has rejected me for being too smart. I've had many a man lament the fact that I'm too smart for his own good after the fact, but that's another matter. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 No, OP is suggesting that people use phrases like "he doesn't like me because I'm too smart" or "she doesn't like me because I'm too nice" as rationalization for the truth; that is, "he/she doesn't like me because I'm not physically attractive enough." I understood what he was saying. But this "I'm too smart" rationalization is new to me. Is it really a thing? Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I understood what he was saying. But this "I'm too smart" rationalization is new to me. Is it really a thing? I never heard it myself. I prefer the phrase 'you are too high up on the spectrum for me... ' Link to post Share on other sites
candie13 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 It's because those guys aren't nice. They are bogus. Hence the roasting. They are passive aggressive which is not the same as being nice. 13 Reasons Why Nice Guys Are The Worst I disagree and hate the generalizing. Million reasons why nice guys aren't very successful with women: lack of confidence, too much intune with their own fears, lack of experience, lack of sensuality / too intellectual... million reasons! I've actually dated a very nice guy, once. Great job, in his late 30's, tall, fit, big blue eyes, very well educated. Looking great on paper. Just nice! Not passive aggressive at all. Liked the same things as I did, took me to some impro contests - had loads of fun, I took him to a piano concert... intellectually, great. Just... no emotional insight, and an even bigger zero on sensuality - as I did feel attracted to him, at some point, just... zero at that level. I actually think he did not KNOW anything about women, about how women worked, what they liked, about seizing the moment on when to make a move... he was thinking way too much! I remember this distinct moment, one day, when we were in this nice bar, talking - we'd spend a lovely date, it was pouring rain outside, and were relaxing on this couch, in this bar, he was looking at me... I think he was expecting me to kiss him ! Like... I don't find that sexy! If there's some teasing involved or some flirting, maybe... but no... that's just wrong !!! He'd been single for some time when I'd met him and I believe he stayed single for a bit of time, after our dating spur, too. I think he had a few things to figure out himself, before seeking another person. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Or as a friend once told another friend, "We can't discuss this fully - we're obviously on different plateaux....." She truly was the feminine equivalent of a dick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I disagree and hate the generalizing. Million reasons why nice guys aren't very successful with women: lack of confidence, too much intune with their own fears, lack of experience, lack of sensuality / too intellectual... million reasons! I'm referring to a group of guys who aren't nice but masquerading as such Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Or as a friend once told another friend, "We can't discuss this fully - we're obviously on different plateaux....." She truly was the feminine equivalent of a dick. Thank you? Link to post Share on other sites
sillyanswer Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Smart girls are hot. You'd think they'd figure out how to open a window. Link to post Share on other sites
candie13 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 to throw themselves from, haha?? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Revolver Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 It's because those guys aren't nice. They are bogus. Hence the roasting. They are passive aggressive which is not the same as being nice. 13 Reasons Why Nice Guys Are The Worst But many times those girls aren't really smart:laugh: Just like many of those guys aren't nice. They both get rejected for the same reason, they both complain, but only one is ridiculed Link to post Share on other sites
Author Revolver Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Guys don't like smart girls? Since when? Of course they do. But many women who say they're smart like to say or imply the reason insert guy/guys here or aren't interested in is because she's smart. The same way many men say the reason a particular women isn't interested is because they're nice but neither is true Link to post Share on other sites
candie13 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 none are ridiculed... Again, in my experience, the galfriends may tell that woman "you're too smart for him", but deep down, they know... they're thinking out loud: "if I were a man, never in a million years will I date you, u stupid b*tch". High maintenance can do that to a person. If anything, people constantly telling a genuinely nice guys he's too nice to date successfully, are telling the truth. People constantly telling a woman "you're to smart for him" are lying to her. She may be too smart to date some men... but all men??? U do the math! Link to post Share on other sites
candie13 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 As someone who has the answers to all of God's questions (wait, why would God have questions? Doesn't God know everything? I'm just teasing you, candie13, love ), I've never had a guy who has rejected me for being too smart. I've had many a man lament the fact that I'm too smart for his own good after the fact, but that's another matter. I bet you've been told you're too smart for your own good, as well ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Eternal Sunshine Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Nice guys are the worst. I have never had worse experiences than with very polite, seemingly sweet, shy, agreeable guys :sick: Guys that came across as arrogant di-cks were kinder to me in the long run. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Revolver Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 none are ridiculed... Again, in my experience, the galfriends may tell that woman "you're too smart for him", but deep down, they know... they're thinking out loud: "if I were a man, never in a million years will I date you, u stupid b*tch". High maintenance can do that to a person. If anything, people constantly telling a genuinely nice guys he's too nice to date successfully, are telling the truth. People constantly telling a woman "you're to smart for him" are lying to her. She may be too smart to date some men... but all men??? U do the math! Im not Talking about outside people telling them, im referring those men and women telling themselves that to cope with the fact that they were rejected because of physical reasons. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MsSmurf Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 While I'm not a fan of generalizing I will say that on many occasions I've had guys tell me that I wasn't dateable because I was too smart, but they also said I was hot. I'm not a snobby know-it-all, I just happen to be pursuing higher education and like to read and such. What I later discovered was that guys telling me this were really saying "I think you're too good for me and one day you'll figure that out and leave me for some guy who gets all that stuff you're into." I guess I understand their perspective, but on the other hand if I've displayed my interest in them then clearly they are good enough for me and they just need to get over themselves. Now as for girls telling guys they're too nice? Yep I've said that and every time it has meant "you're really boring and never want to try new things and I can't imagine spending the rest of my life like that." I get that the rejection hurts, but either of us trying to be something we're not isn't fair either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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