Sun Devil Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I am just curious on what other people think death will be like. I personally believe that it is simply the end of your existence. It would be like before you were born. No self awareness, no feelings, nothing. What do other people think? Do you believe in reincarnation or an afterlife, or do you have similar beliefs to me? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I am just curious on what other people think death will be like. I personally believe that it is simply the end of your existence. well, after all my catholic upbringing that would be damn disappointing to find out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill007 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 yea, pretty much the no self-awareness, no self, no consciousness, no existence. Lack of being. Dust to dust. I remember thinking a lot about it as I lay down to sleep when I was young. Link to post Share on other sites
Eclypse Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 That's a good question. No one knows (but we all will eventually). In one of my favourite Stephen King books called Apt Pupil, *spoilers* one of the protagonists commits suicide by overdosing on sleeping pills. He feels the blackness closing in on him. It's only when it's too late does he realises he doesn't want to do this and starts fighting it. Despite his best efforts he fails and feels his life slip away and as everything gets darker and hands appear to be grabbing him and pulling him down. King really captured his fear and it was a very chilling description (just one scene in a very macabre, twisted book). I imagine dying would be like that. I experienced something similar when I went under general anaesthesia. Of course, once you die I would imagine since there is no electricity in your brain your thoughts would just stop. You cease to exist as an entity. You are just a hunk of flesh and bone, your mind extinguished forever. You wouldn't feel anything. Your troubles are over. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Ever been knocked unconscious, where there is no sense of anything and no perception of the passage of time? Happened to me once; was out for about 20 minutes. In between was a big zero. No fuzzy images, no dreams, no thoughts, no sensations. As I came to, the first sensation was hearing dogs barking. That was because I had crashed through a window when the lights went out, but never felt any sensation of hearing the window shatter or pain or anything. IMO, death is like that, but permanent. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 It's like finishing a good book and finding out the sequel is better...or for some it could be like watching Matrix 1 and then watching Matrix 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 It's like finishing a good book and finding out the sequel is better...or for some it could be like watching Matrix 1 and then watching Matrix 2 That's right, so take the red pill, peeps! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 It's like finishing a good book and finding out the sequel is better...or for some it could be like watching Matrix 1 and then watching Matrix 2 The Matrix is my favorite movie...all three, just awesome! I was just reading a book in which Nurses said that there was a big difference in the "death experience" with Christians as opposed to non Christians. Personally, I would much rather be Raptured. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Ever been knocked unconscious, where there is no sense of anything and no perception of the passage of time? Happened to me once; was out for about 20 minutes. In between was a big zero. No fuzzy images, no dreams, no thoughts, no sensations. As I came to, the first sensation was hearing dogs barking. That was because I had crashed through a window when the lights went out, but never felt any sensation of hearing the window shatter or pain or anything. IMO, death is like that, but permanent. Oh my........ Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 The Matrix is my favorite movie...all three, just awesome! I was just reading a book in which Nurses said that there was a big difference in the "death experience" with Christians as opposed to non Christians. Personally, I would much rather be Raptured. Having thought about all the possible ways of "going out", I've decided a natural death is the way (assuming it's not riddled with chronic pain). I've also thought about the rapture, but the more I read Scripture the more I don't want to be on earth during the days preceding rapture. It stinks that we have to die. To think that Christians, who have eternal life, still must die, is strange. I've determined this is because if God did NOT make everyone die, then he would be a liar--since it's written "the soul who sins shall die". And God will not be made out a liar, so unfortunately as much as he loves us, we still must die. Sad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Having thought about all the possible ways of "going out", I've decided a natural death is the way (assuming it's not riddled with chronic pain). I've also thought about the rapture, but the more I read Scripture the more I don't want to be on earth during the days preceding rapture. It stinks that we have to die. To think that Christians, who have eternal life, still must die, is strange. I've determined this is because if God did NOT make everyone die, then he would be a liar--since it's written "the soul who sins shall die". And God will not be made out a liar, so unfortunately as much as he loves us, we still must die. Sad. You know what? I can live with this, thank you:D If the world were to have to get much worse than it is now, well, I'm a reactive sort and don't take things in a "graceful manor". Go figure, my mom sent me to "Grace" school and everything. Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 You know what? I can live with this, thank you:D If the world were to have to get much worse than it is now, well, I'm a reactive sort and don't take things in a "graceful manor". Go figure, my mom sent me to "Grace" school and everything. I am 99.9% sure that Christians won't be here for the entire tribulation, but it's possible that we will make the first half (3.5 years). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Harper Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Having worked with terminal patients and people who have had NDE and I had a OOBE I can tell you this and its not BS: You will die someday. You will hear a wosshing sound after you lose consciousness. You will find yourself outside your body and feel incredibly happy and light. the sound will go up. Then you will see a light as the world turns darker and it will look like a tunnel. You will be pulled to teh light and you will find it brighter than anything you have ever seen. SOmeone you know will be the LIGHT and then you will realize you are made of light too! He will make you see your whole life with all the good and the bad. You will feel terrible for all the wrong you did HE WILL NOT JUDGE YOU AT ALL, you will be your own judge. Itsnot going to be easy nor simple you will see your errors and bad deed in all their glory. Afetrwards you will reunite with your loved ones,and you will decide when to come back again, if you are advanced it may take a long time, if you have huge karmic deeds, you will be sent back pretty fast and with no choice. SO BE GOOD TO OTHER LEARN FORGIVE GROW and LEARN TO LOVE 2 Link to post Share on other sites
dreamingoftigers Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I can't know. I do believe that there is something past this. But only because of experience. When my brother had his heart attack and brain injury, I felt extremely comforted that if he were to pass, that he would be "going home." It's hard to articulate sometimes. But I did go to a cadaver lab last year. It was very hard to deal with, seeing people split open and "collections" of hearts in a bucket. It was very anxiety raising. But the worst part, which was actually traumatic to me, was the silence. The unending silence. It will be very difficult for me to lose someone. It was also hard to see the one man who had been separated along the Sagittal plane. He had died from an inoperable brain tumor. Seeing the tumor, and how it had essentially taken part of his autonomic & motor functions cell by cell was very hard to process. Like being betrayed from the inside in an area that makes so very much of who we are. Literally eating away at your very essence. I hope that we have spirits/souls. I hope that it isn't as simple as having your neurons wink out when the oxygen stops coming. How awful. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I can't know. I do believe that there is something past this. But only because of experience. When my brother had his heart attack and brain injury, I felt extremely comforted that if he were to pass, that he would be "going home." It's hard to articulate sometimes. But I did go to a cadaver lab last year. It was very hard to deal with, seeing people split open and "collections" of hearts in a bucket. It was very anxiety raising. But the worst part, which was actually traumatic to me, was the silence. The unending silence. It will be very difficult for me to lose someone. It was also hard to see the one man who had been separated along the Sagittal plane. He had died from an inoperable brain tumor. Seeing the tumor, and how it had essentially taken part of his autonomic & motor functions cell by cell was very hard to process. Like being betrayed from the inside in an area that makes so very much of who we are. Literally eating away at your very essence. I hope that we have spirits/souls. I hope that it isn't as simple as having your neurons wink out when the oxygen stops coming. How awful. (((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) I feel ya gf... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Having worked with terminal patients and people who have had NDE and I had a OOBE I can tell you this and its not BS: You will die someday. You will hear a wosshing sound after you lose consciousness. You will find yourself outside your body and feel incredibly happy and light. the sound will go up. Then you will see a light as the world turns darker and it will look like a tunnel. You will be pulled to teh light and you will find it brighter than anything you have ever seen. SOmeone you know will be the LIGHT and then you will realize you are made of light too! He will make you see your whole life with all the good and the bad. You will feel terrible for all the wrong you did HE WILL NOT JUDGE YOU AT ALL, you will be your own judge. Itsnot going to be easy nor simple you will see your errors and bad deed in all their glory. Afetrwards you will reunite with your loved ones,and you will decide when to come back again, if you are advanced it may take a long time, if you have huge karmic deeds, you will be sent back pretty fast and with no choice. SO BE GOOD TO OTHER LEARN FORGIVE GROW and LEARN TO LOVE Priddy good advice IMO:) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Z Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I have no way to know so I don't have any definite opinion. But I do hold out hope that consciousness transcends what we perceive to be reality. I'd be fine with winking out. You're here, then you're not, and you'd never know the difference. So it's not like you're going to miss anything. However, what we perceive to be reality is only a very small part of it - a tiny fraction of it - and there are still a lot of unanswered questions. So I tend to think that our limited understanding of things leaves a lot of open doors. If I had to bet one way or the other, I would bet the longshot - the universe itself is conscious and we are an inseparable part of that, in mortal form or not. While not a scientific position, I don't think you have to get mystical to defend the premise of this argument. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Z Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Perhaps it is noteworthy that when I was holding a gun to my head, I expected to simply wink out of existence. In fact I was depending on it! So I guess my above stated bet is more hope than belief. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Perhaps it is noteworthy that when I was holding a gun to my head, I expected to simply wink out of existence. In fact I was depending on it! So I guess my above stated bet is more hope than belief. Robert, are you kidding or did you really hold a gun to your head at one point? Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Turgidson Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 What was it like before you were born? Why would anyone expect it to be different after you die? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Z Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 What was it like before you were born? Why would anyone expect it to be different after you die? What was it like before you were 1 year old? Tell me all about it! I'm guessing that you can't remember that either. Existence does not demand that we have a memory of it. Memories are formed in the brain. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Z Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Robert, are you kidding or did you really hold a gun to your head at one point? I was actually squeezing the trigger before I stopped myself. I really couldn't have come any closer without succeeding. And one and only one thought stopped me. I've been writing about that since I joined this site. That is why I have such strong feelings on the matter. At the last possible second I realized that there was still one thing worth living for - sex. And I was off to Reno to start an entirely new life. Edited May 29, 2013 by Robert Z 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I was actually squeezing the trigger before I stopped myself. I really couldn't have come any closer without succeeding. And one and only one thought stopped me. I've been writing about that since I joined this site. That is why I have such strong feelings on the matter. At the last possible second I realized that there was still one thing worth living for - sex. And I was off to Reno to start an entirely new life. Oh wow...I haven't read your writings other than the Spiritual and Political sections...now there s a curiousity of what you have written lol. ((((((((((hugs))))))))))) sooooo glad you didn't follow through! Reno is cool and spent a great deal of time in Vegas as my mother lived for Vegas. A lot of cool people in both places, and have a good number of friends and family in both places... I wonder how many lives you've changed with your writings, meaning how many were right at that door, ready to roll and didn't because of you. Cool. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Z Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Oh wow...I haven't read your writings other than the Spiritual and Political sections...now there s a curiousity of what you have written lol. ((((((((((hugs))))))))))) sooooo glad you didn't follow through! Reno is cool and spent a great deal of time in Vegas as my mother lived for Vegas. A lot of cool people in both places, and have a good number of friends and family in both places... I wonder how many lives you've changed with your writings, meaning how many were right at that door, ready to roll and didn't because of you. Cool. Thank you! And big hugs right back at you. I know of two people who have thanked me for my contributions here. I guess there is a sense of needing to tell my story in hopes that others might consider their options before taking the big dive. I have also learned just how important human contact and intimacy can be. Even by the path I took, it makes all the difference in the world. That is what I want to convey most of all. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I contend it's like you said, OP. If there was something different one of the billions of beings who have been dead for centuries would have come back by Now to tell us differently. Read the story of rich man and the poor man (Lazarus). The rich man wound up in hell and asked just to have a messenger return to warn his brothers so they wouldn't have the same fate. An angel told him his brothers have the prophets to warn them and refused additional messengers. In addition, Scripture makes it clear that angels tend to contact a select person (such as Moses) who is responsible for relaying the info to masses--and the angel/messenger does not appear to anyone else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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