Do you STILL think your "looks" are holding you back? (for the Struggling Fellas)

[Imajerk17]

I have to share this newsletter--from a guy known as Scot McKay.

 

As I mentioned to you last week I was in Las Vegas for a "mastermind" meeting with my peers not too long ago.

 

It seems that every time I go there I have to stand in line for ages to check in at the hotel.

 

But as it turns out, the last couple of times I've been able to turn proverbial lemons into lemonade thanks to observing some fascinating male/female dynamics while waiting.

 

Last time I was forced to look on as some perfectly decent guy crashed and burned while attempting to chat up a VERY sharp-witted hottie from New York City. You may recall my newsletter on that one.

 

Well, this time I have a happier story to relate to you.

 

I really can't put it any other way than this. While I was in line, I was witness to what was surely THE most effective pickup I've ever observed first-hand.

 

Seriously. I've hung out with some "big name" PUAs, and I've NEVER seen anyone in action who could even come CLOSE to touching the skill this guy showed.

 

Even the "in field" videos that some so-called "gurus" post on their websites look downright pathetic in comparison.

 

Here's what happened. Ahead of me in line were not one but THREE of the sexiest young women you've ever seen. They were friends, and had just flown in from Brazil together.

 

Now, these three chicks looked capable of ANYTHING sexually and were dressed so as to make that fact perfectly clear. They weren't exactly slutty, mind you. It was more like they exuded feminine sexuality that was off the charts.

 

Most normal, red-blooded guys would have found it utterly impossible to isolate which was the hottest one of the trio, seeing as how they all pretty much pegged the needle.

 

As such, for your convenience there was a blonde one, a brunette one and a brown-haired one.

 

I barely had time to ruminate upon all of this when out of nowhere a guy showed up and boldly introduced himself to all three girls at once.

 

The women all perked up and smiled. They told him their names in succession. He noticed their accents and asked where they were from, and some basic pleasantries followed.

 

Then, without missing a beat, the guy acknowledged that they had probably just arrived in Vegas and wondered aloud if they had big plans for their first night there.

 

They didn't. That was okay, because he did.

 

With textbook perfection, the suggestion was made that ALL three of them should join him that night for a super cool social event that he knew of.

 

Relating his plan to them with understated charm, the concept of joining him for the evening occurred as such an irresistible privilege to the three girls that their willingness was a foregone conclusion.

 

In fact, the plan was barely on the table when the blondie voiced that she would need time to change her clothes. The dude assured her that she looked more than fine the way she was. Nice.

 

On cue, the other two asked him if they too looked presentable enough.

 

The answer they received was both affirmative and matter-of-fact. There was not so much as a hint of "Mr. Nice Guy" neediness. After all, he had these three Brazillian hotties seeking HIS approval already.

 

Without so much as a hint of hesitation, he moved forward. "OK, well...in order for this to happen I'm going to need to reach you in a couple of hours. Since you all are from Brazil, I'm thinking that calling you later isn't an option."

 

With masterful precision, the guy had timed his approach such that the three women were about five minutes from the head of the line. About four had elapsed at this point.

 

"Well, no worries. You're next in line so you'll know your room numbers in a bit. Problem solved."

 

Unreal. This guy had done this before at least once or twice...clearly.

 

Sure enough, he accompanied the three girls to the check-in counter. As they walked away a minute or so later, I overheard him mention that he should pick up a bottle of something nice before they headed up to the room...together.

 

Yes, I said "together". As in all four of them...within about eight total minutes of having met.

 

Having shared all of that with you, now comes the interesting part.

 

Maybe by now you've formed a mental picture of what you think this guy may have looked like.

 

If so, are you imagining a 5'4" guy of Vietnamese descent in his early twenties?

 

In case you're not, go ahead and adjust your imagination accordingly. And yes, I know a Vietnamese name when I hear it.

 

Check it out. I get e-mails CONSTANTLY from guys who complain about all sorts of "limiting beliefs" that they THINK are keeping them from the women they want.

 

"I'm too short."

 

"I'm Asian. American women HATE Asian guys."

 

"All the women my age want OLDER guys."

 

Meanwhile, this guy in Vegas brought no excuses to the table. Only bold confidence, masculine leadership and a knack for making women who had never met him before feel perfectly comfortable in his presence.

 

To say that combo was "money" would be an understatement.

 

Yes, his grooming and his sense of fashion were spot on. He did the best with what he had, for sure.

 

In short, whatever was IN HIS CONTROL was handled. Whatever WASN'T he didn't waste time being concerned with.

 

My point? YOU TOO CAN DO THIS.

 

Every single factor that contributed to his devastating success with women was based on LEARNED SKILL, which he had indeed acquired and then diligently practiced.

 

As such, he was a man who deserved what he wanted. I encourage you to go and do likewise.

 

 

Be Good,

 

Scot McKay

[ThaWholigan]

I got that email too .

 

I know too many guys like that dude, this is old news to me - this probably will get the same old response though, just wanted to give props to Scot McKay in this thread .

[Imajerk17]

I got that email too .

 

I know too many guys like that dude, this is old news to me - this probably will get the same old response though, just wanted to give props to Scot McKay in this thread .

 

You might be right. But I am still holding out hope that I can reach one of the Struggling Fellas. Some of them are so stubborn. If I am able to reach one of them maybe I will earn to my wings

Edited June 5, 2013 by Imajerk17

[ScreamingTrees]

OR, you can be like me, and say the exact same things in that situation all totally relaxed and smiling and get laughed at or looked at like you have three heads. In that scenario, I'd be the creep. Who knows how these people do it.

[ThaWholigan]

OR, you can be like me, and say the exact same things in that situation all totally relaxed and smiling and get laughed at or looked at like you have three heads. In that scenario, I'd be the creep. Who knows how these people do it.

Sometimes we focus on the worst case scenario too much.

 

I always try to expect nothing whenever I do anything. It clashes with many parts of who I am, but I'm a complex character so I have to accept that .

[PJKino]

Theyres excpetions to everything but for the most part looks play a huge role

 

Having a good looking friend whos kind of a misogynist and openly arrogant yet they still want to be with him because hes good looking has kind of shown me how much looks are valued

[ThaWholigan]

Theyres excpetions to everything but for the most part looks play a huge role

 

Having a good looking friend whos kind of a misogynist and openly arrogant yet they still want to be with him because hes good looking has kind of shown me how much looks are valued

You so need a new social circle

[SJC2008]

It's moreso insecurity and anxiety that's my problem. I've learned how to monitor my insecurity but the anxiety is my main problem. I get uptight early on in social situations, I get better and am "normal" after some time and a few drinks. Women hate awkwardness and are more clued in to body language than men. A touch of awkardness not noticeable to a man will be like a neon sign to a woman and it goes back to biology. As much as I hate it when biology is thrown into dating references a lot of it's true. Women are the weaker, more vulnerable species so it makes sense to me why they are more clued into body language, they need to be aware of threats, they're "security seeking creatues". Awkwardness/anxiety is women off. Tell me how to get rid of that without medication and I'll be your servant!

[PogoStick]

It's easy to get Brazilian women to go out clubbing/partying. Here's how you do it:

Hey want to go to the club on Saturday?

Sure, what time?

PS. Add 2 hours to whatever time they say they'll be ready.

 

I'd say about 1/2 of Europe is just as easy. Greeks -check, Germans - check, Czechs - check.

[ScreamingTrees]

Theyres excpetions to everything but for the most part looks play a huge role

 

Having a good looking friend whos kind of a misogynist and openly arrogant yet they still want to be with him because hes good looking has kind of shown me how much looks are valued

 

Or how about personally knowing a (non-*******) model-looking guy who complains to you in private about how his friends can get laid with no drama or expectations, and yet he says very little and does barely anything and every girl that he meets STILL literally falls in love with him after meeting maybe once or twice and texting a bit or hooking up once..

 

That's this guy's "problem".. Says he'd gladly trade places with me, he'd rather be completely invisible to women, rather than get laid on a whim with attractive women whom are all equally as willing and eager.

 

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[somedude81]

Extreme confidence and knowing what to say can overcome physical unattractiveness.

 

I've known that for a long time.

 

If that guy wasn't half as confident as he was in the story, he would have gotten blown out in 10 seconds.

 

BTW, most of the struggling dudes, don't have anywhere close to that amount of game.

 

If a guy is better looking, confidence and knowing what to say is far less important.

[Imajerk17]

Well you get better by practice practice practice. Talk w women old enough to be your mom, and women with rings on their fingers. Eventually you'll become smoother and more confident. I got good at meeting women because I put in the work. And when I first started I was horrible. I got good because I kept at it.

 

So there goes the "looks" theory--either I was always good-looking and that wasn't enough or I am succeeding now without being good-looking.

Edited June 5, 2013 by Imajerk17

[somedude81]

Well you get better by practice practice practice. Talk w women old enough to be your mom, and women with rings on their fingers. I got good at meeting women because I put in the work. And when I first started I was horrible. I got good because I kept at it.

 

So there goes the "looks" theory--either I was always good-looking and that wasn't enough or I am succeeding now without being good-looking.

No, it doesn't disprove the looks theory at all.

 

Good looks is essentially adding more horse power to a car. Yes it may be possible to succeed without looks, but good looks only make things easier.

 

If I was taller and or better looking, I am absolutely certain that it wouldn't have taken me this long to get somewhere with a girl.

 

There is virtually nothing different between past struggling me and me now. I just found a girl who doesn't care about looks. And even then I think it has more to do with her ex being a stinker and I was just in the right place at the right time.

[Imajerk17]

Reread the story. The guy was short and ugly and he succeeded.

Edited June 5, 2013 by Imajerk17

[ScreamingTrees]

Reread the story. The guy was short and ugly and he succeeded.

 

Well, how does that disprove what Somedude is trying to say? In Somedude's mind, he's the same as the guy in the article..

 

Ever heard of that phrase? Oh, how does it go.. "Every dog has his day.."?

[BeholdtheMan]

Of course looks matter. Being very physically attractive is a plus, no matter whether you're man or woman.

 

Fortunately for guys, it comes down to this:

Men are attracted to looks

Women are attracted to looks + status

 

Status can mean popularity, wealth, power etc. Popular, wealthy, and popular men are usually charismatic, confident, bold, aggressive, dominant etc...

 

In short, it's much easier for a man to overcome poor looks than for a woman to do the same. A man can work on his "status"...a woman not so much.

[USMCHokie]

So there goes the "looks" theory--either I was always good-looking and that wasn't enough or I am succeeding now without being good-looking.

 

Single data point...

 

Anyway, there are a few things I'd like to point out in that little anecdote. First, it's Vegas. There are some pretty busted-ass club promoters out there that can get the girls all giddy like that when they are invited to club events. It's not about the guy, it's about what he can offer. Second, no knock on Brazilians, but like it was mentioned before, they love clubs and events. If they are indeed visiting from Brazil, they are probably pretty excited to get an invite somewhere from a friendly looking American. From my too many trips to Vegas, I would conclude that this is more of a sales pitch than a pickup. But merely my opinion based on the facts given in the article.

[tbf]

Let's spin this around. Is negativity an attractive quality? How has negativity enriched your lives, whether romantically or otherwise?

[somedude81]

Reread the story. The guy was short and ugly and he succeeded.

 

Extreme confidence and knowing what to say can overcome physical unattractiveness.

 

I've known that for a long time.

 

If that guy wasn't half as confident as he was in the story, he would have gotten blown out in 10 seconds.

Need I say more?

[Imajerk17]

You can work on your confidence as that guy did.

 

Or you can bemoan not being good-looking as you are doing. Even though looks might help but not that much.

 

Your choice.

[tbf]

Let's spin this around. Is negativity an attractive quality? How has negativity enriched your lives, whether romantically or otherwise?

 

Need I say more?

This doesn't answer my questions. Has negativity helped you in your love life or any other aspect of your life?

[somedude81]

You can work on your confidence as that guy did.

 

Or you can bemoan not being good-looking as you are doing. Even though looks might help but not that much.

 

Your choice.

Working on my confidence. What a funny concept.

 

Recently my confidence and level of boldness greatly increased. Would you have any idea why?

[Suave]

Having confidence through your looks and having genuine confidence are two very different things.

 

The latter is infinitely more valuable.

[ThaWholigan]

Working on my confidence. What a funny concept.

 

Recently my confidence and level of boldness greatly increased. Would you have any idea why?

You took the initiative and it paid off.

[USMCHokie]

Working on my confidence. What a funny concept.

 

Recently my confidence and level of boldness greatly increased. Would you have any idea why?

 

Success begets confidence.