blondie 12345 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life death etc, whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die, I just wanted to know what peoples view on this stuff are as I don't no and am confused, im only 28 but have been thinking off death a lot lately not sure why. xx:confused: Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think I just heard a can opener. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life death etc, whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die, I just wanted to know what peoples view on this stuff are as I don't no and am confused, im only 28 but have been thinking off death a lot lately not sure why. xx:confused: Age old question my friend. Recommend to read Ecclesiastes...Solomon had everything humans desire: money, fame, women, fortune... His conclusions: Everything Is Meaningless I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind. He covers wisdom, pleasures, toil, knowledge, career advancement, riches, investments, friendships, love...around 10 chapters describing benefits and limitations of each. His conclusion: Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 1 ESV - All Is Vanity - The words of the - Bible Gateway 6 Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Age old question my friend. Recommend to read Ecclesiastes...Solomon had everything humans desire: money, fame, women, fortune... His conclusions: Everything Is Meaningless I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind. He covers wisdom, pleasures, toil, knowledge, career advancement, riches, investments, friendships, love...around 10 chapters describing benefits and limitations of each. His conclusion: Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 1 ESV - All Is Vanity - The words of the - Bible Gateway Love that chapter. This was actually the FIRST verse I ever taught my 5 year old son: "Fear God and keep his commandments." (Had to explain what a commandment is, lol, but he understands.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cerridwen Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) I don't know about the rest of y'all but I'm breezing through to have a human experience. Edited June 10, 2013 by cerridwen 2 Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think it depends on what you think will happen after you die? What do you think happens, OP? If heaven awaits, to die is gain. (Philippians 1:2) If this life is all there is: eat, drink and be merry. (Ecclesiastes 8:15) I agree with TFW's post; everything is meaningless. Except to love God, and to love our neighbor as ourselves. That is where I want my focus to be. (Off-topic: M30, the first verse you taught your 5 y/o son was from Ecclesiastes 1? That is so funny! Wanted to start with the lighter stuff, I guess ) 3 Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (Off-topic: M30, the first verse you taught your 5 y/o son was from Ecclesiastes 1? That is so funny! Wanted to start with the lighter stuff, I guess ) M30 always goes straight for the jugular j/k M30 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpybutfun Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life death etc, whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die, I just wanted to know what peoples view on this stuff are as I don't no and am confused, im only 28 but have been thinking off death a lot lately not sure why. xx:confused: The human experience is to think of life and death. We all have our own individual human experience so it is up to you to find what you need in order to form your own thoughts on the subject. I was raised in an extremely religious household and yet I knew it was up to me to find my own path instead of blindly following what my parent's taught me. Our spiritual path is what answers these questions as well as they can....what is the meaning of life? Where do we go after death? What is the purpose to our everyday existence? Is there anything to fear or to look forward to after death? I am scholarly and love nature so I went to the rivers and mountains to find my soul's delight. I also read as much as I could on religions, philosophies, literature, art, music and science in order to be able to have an intelligent and soulful search for what I needed in order to make this life as purposeful and beautiful as I could. These questions have answers, but they must come from your own search and your own beliefs. One of the joys to me of being human is this search for what is our purpose and what are we fighting for. Whether it is to volunteer in Africa or to sing southern gospels, we all have our own gift and our own purpose. Happy Searching, Grumps 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TaxAHCruel Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die My thinking is the exact opposite of the above in fact, though as before I will probably borrow heavily from another forum writer I respect on this subject. My question would be what is the point in this life if there IS an after life that is eternal. It is nearly impossible to envisage just how short and insignificant 100 years is compared to infinite eternity. Rarity is what defines the worth of many things. Gold is not just precious because it is a bit pretty. It is precious because it is very rare. If you managed to multiply the gold content of our coffers over night by 10,000 you would reduce it to a cheap commodity instantly. Similarly what defines the worth of life for me is its rarity and uniqueness. I am a one off. As are you. And our existence before we are gone and never to be repeated is mercilessly brief. That gives the life itself - and the act of living it - value and compels one to celebrate it and revel in it. Take the Christ Myths for example - though this is where I borrow heavily from another writer. The story tells us that god "gave" us his only son - and that Jesus sacrificed himself for us. But think about it. What was sacrificed really? The Christ figure is said by believers to now be living a life of eternal bliss and dominion with his daddy. That does not sound like he sacrificed anything - rather he "traded up". It is an insult to anyone who actually did give their one and only life - with no promise of another one - in the name of some person - place - or ideal. This god did not "give" us a son - he LENT us one - for something that was not even a blink of an eye in relative terms. And even if this "son" did die an all powerful being has the ability to mediate his grief by returning life to that son in an instant. Contrast this to the agony of parents on this planet who when they lose a child - it is lost forever - and there is good reason why people often declare that there is no pain greater than to outlive your own children. Even the tortures said to have been visited on this character are like a holiday compared to some of the horrors our species have invented to visit on each other in our halls of torture. The rarity and transience of life gives it its value - it does not erode it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think I just heard a can opener. Hey, how did these worms get into my chunky pineapple! {Edit: unnecessarily mean-spirited comment removed. Wasn't directed at you, HR... } My question would be what is the point in this life if there IS an after life that is eternal. Similarly what defines the worth of life for me is its rarity and uniqueness. I am a one off. As are you. And our existence before we are gone and never to be repeated is mercilessly brief. That gives the life itself - and the act of living it - value and compels one to celebrate it and revel in it. .... The rarity and transience of life gives it its value - it does not erode it. I so love your entire post - I have always felt this way, too. Making this life worth something is even more important if you believe that this breif moment is our only time (as I do.) To the OP: as far as a purpose, from a purely pragmatic, unromantic, objective standpoint, I believe our purpose is to propagate DNA. A chicken is just an egg's way of making another egg. Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I don't know about the rest of y'all but I'm breezing through to have a human experience. we chose to have this experience all good and bad we chose to have it anyway....that is part of my belief so i agree with you cerri....we chose to have a human experience and we are blessed to be able to....deb 2 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Love that chapter. This was actually the FIRST verse I ever taught my 5 year old son: "Fear God and keep his commandments." (Had to explain what a commandment is, lol, but he understands.) Hey, not trying to get up in your business, although did you teach the little guy the difference between good fear and bad fear, meaning fear in this context IMO is respect. The reason I brought this up is due to me making the mistake of clarification with my kids- this is all based on the fact of you possibly not agreeing with my definition and context. Kids are a trip, last week in church my 4 yr old granddaughter, when the church was silent, screams Jesus really loud. I don't like to be noticed...isn't gonna happen with her around. Kids know more than we do, and understand a lot. You want any inf as to what's going on in the neighborhood- ask a kid:D 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life death etc, whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die, I just wanted to know what peoples view on this stuff are as I don't no and am confused, im only 28 but have been thinking off death a lot lately not sure why. xx:confused: I believe that if one chooses Jesus Christ, believing that He died on the cross for our sins, Him being God, and ask Him into your heart making Him your Lord and Savior, you will go to heaven. (Bold) I ponder this a lot at times, wondering why am I here? What is the point? Then am reminded, I need to pray for this and that person. Oh and need to have an active role in my grandkids lives, and the list just doesn't end. Last but not least, I am here to worship Him and accomplish His will, whatever that is:D I know mine isn't popular, but since when have any of my views been the "popular" ones:laugh:...oh and ya, I have issues:D Edited June 11, 2013 by pureinheart Link to post Share on other sites
DannyMason Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life death etc, whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die, I just wanted to know what peoples view on this stuff are as I don't no and am confused, im only 28 but have been thinking off death a lot lately not sure why. xx:confused: Life is a consequence of the physical laws governing the universe. It has no intrinsic meaning. Enjoy it while you can. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life and death They exist. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 hi I was just wondering what everyones views on life death etc, whats the point in life if you die whats the point in getting a job house having children buying a dress etc if all we do is die, I just wanted to know what peoples view on this stuff are as I don't no and am confused, im only 28 but have been thinking off death a lot lately not sure why. xx:confused: I think we all all have the same desire, which is to achieve happiness. Hence I am not sure about the free will argument as this seeking of happiness seems to be universal, like an innate compulsion. Some want happiness to be a shared experience and some are not able to achieve a shared experience, or don't want it. The rest is all about how we achieve happiness and what paths we take. The spoiler seems to be that without there being a spiritual connection to God the person is actually dead anyway. Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
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