pureinheart Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Excuse me? "Nice guys" don't have to finish anything, they START anything that's good in this life. I've heard this statement from more guys than I care to think about, and am usually speechless when it is spoken, kind of like a shock when hearing it. Seriously, why would a truly nice guy buy into this lie right out of the pit of hell, but some do, if not many. Who coined this ridiculous phrase anyway? A "bad guy":rolleyes: Hey to all of you "nice guys" out there, in my neck of the woods online and off, the ladies I know won't touch a "bad boy" with gloves on, ten foot pole or any other safety device you can think of. We avoid them like the plague. Here, bad boys are shunned, considered poison. Is this not true else where? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hey pure in heart.....the only way i think that nice guys finish last is because they are the ones that get to keep the girl...they are the last...the only....oenb that matters.......deb 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'm ok with last. ('cause I'm a show-closer). 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 In today's world nice people in general finish last but I stay nice because what is at the finish line is not what I want. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hey pure in heart.....the only way i think that nice guys finish last is because they are the ones that get to keep the girl...they are the last...the only....oenb that matters.......deb Ahahaha, most likely were the ladies got the phrase, "all the good ones are taken"...it must of been in an area with a high concentration of "bad boys"! They aren't all taken, just making a comment... Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'm ok with last. ('cause I'm a show-closer). ...but you're first, you know that right! Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 In today's world nice people in general finish last but I stay nice because what is at the finish line is not what I want. I get where you're coming from, and you stay nice, we love you Woggle:D just the way you are:love: Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Ahahaha, most likely were the ladies got the phrase, "all the good ones are taken"...it must of been in an area with a high concentration of "bad boys"! They aren't all taken, just making a comment... smilin atcha..... i adore nice guys...i admire them...respect them and their ways.....those who stand for their convictions who dont sway to the societal belief bad boys win the race........because bad boys dont..they might win the 100 metre dash to the finish line....nice guys know there is no finish line its a marathon.......nice guys do know this....because they are happy within themselves and give a non chalant wave as a bad boy passes them going hahahaha going to beat ya.....hugs.....deb Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 In thinking the men around here are avoiding "bad girls" like the plague also... Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I stopped caring about this subject. I suppose I used to be a nice guy. Then I got smacked in the face with reality and I stopped caring. Being nice honestly doesn't benefit anyone. Being compassionate DOES. There is a BIG difference. The former is often fake and self-serving; the later is genuine and for the benefit of those in need or suffering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 You can deny it as much as you want, but the fact is douchebags get more girls than nice guys. The numbers don't lie. Its awesome that you and all of your friends feel differently, and we need more women like that, but its not the real world. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 You can deny it as much as you want, but the fact is douchebags get more girls than nice guys. The numbers don't lie. Its awesome that you and all of your friends feel differently, and we need more women like that, but its not the real world. Yes. This is because, to 90 percent of the human race, survival and insurance of their offspring is a higher priority than the quality or character of their offspring. This is why I have repeatedly said on this forum that God must come FIRST even before family. Why continue your family line if you are merely continuing faithlessness, idolatry, and disobedience to the Lord? It would be better to die for God than have a secure family which disobeys him. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 It's true in bed.... Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 You can deny it as much as you want, but the fact is douchebags get more girls than nice guys. The numbers don't lie. Its awesome that you and all of your friends feel differently, and we need more women like that, but its not the real world. We're in the real world. Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 smilin atcha..... i adore nice guys...i admire them...respect them and their ways.....those who stand for their convictions who dont sway to the societal belief bad boys win the race........because bad boys dont..they might win the 100 metre dash to the finish line....nice guys know there is no finish line its a marathon.......nice guys do know this....because they are happy within themselves and give a non chalant wave as a bad boy passes them going hahahaha going to beat ya.....hugs.....deb I do too Deb, and I think it's becoming out of style to chase after the "excitement". As an example here, two of my daughters elementary friends got together- they both chased after the "bad" people...they are two "nice" people. My daughter saw this and has decided to give up on relationships for awhile because she sees the "nice" guy her friend got together with and she wants that. People are changing here. Possibly being so close to Hollywood, and back in the 50's the "bad boy" was glamourised in many movies- it was illustrated as exciting. Yuk. This area was flooded with this attitude and behavior, actually it was the norm. Yuk. Then we have the movie "Grease", which I enjoyed the movie, but if you look at the message behind that (IMO), you have the "bad boy" who can be changed if the "nice girl" changes. I suppose some would see this as meeting somehwere in the middle, but it actually wasn't... Hollywood unfortunately had a big impact in my city. ...and Deb, "nice guys finish last"...last in what exactly? Was it coined concerning getting girls into the bedroom? I'll have to do a search on that phrase to see where it came from...was it orginally used concerning business ventures? Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 I stopped caring about this subject. I suppose I used to be a nice guy. Then I got smacked in the face with reality and I stopped caring. Being nice honestly doesn't benefit anyone. Being compassionate DOES. There is a BIG difference. The former is often fake and self-serving; the later is genuine and for the benefit of those in need or suffering. You're right, although I think it's what the individuals definition of nice is. It means a lot of different things for me. Nice means: being kind, considerate, happy, giving, loving, honest, empathetic, having integrity, intelligent, denying self, compassionate, long-suffering. This list could go on forever. In bold, that isn't nice IMO and doesn't fit any form of the meaning of nice. You still are a "nice guy", so I don't get why you say you used to one. Just because you have different views just means you have different views, whether it be on LS, with your ex ...you hold to your convictions. I see nothing not "nice" about that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 This topic used to matter to me in the literal sense, then I figured out that a positive life outlook, spiced with a bit of emotional serenity, indeed causes one to finish last, living a long life and dying with a smile on one's face as an old person in their bed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 You can deny it as much as you want, but the fact is douchebags get more girls than nice guys. The numbers don't lie. Its awesome that you and all of your friends feel differently, and we need more women like that, but its not the real world. But what kind of girls do the douchebags (lol) get? These girls are hurting IMO, possibly believing the lie that they don't deserve the nice guys? If the girl is in it for the "rush", well that fades quickly. No offense to the girls, but the nice guys don't need these types, they haven't matured ...and I HATE seeing nice guys hurt. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 This topic used to matter to me in the literal sense, then I figured out that a positive life outlook, spiced with a bit of emotional serenity, indeed causes one to finish last, living a long life and dying with a smile on one's face as an old person in their bed. That's poetic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 You're right, although I think it's what the individuals definition of nice is. It means a lot of different things for me. Nice means: being kind, considerate, happy, giving, loving, honest, empathetic, having integrity, intelligent, denying self, compassionate, long-suffering. This list could go on forever. In bold, that isn't nice IMO and doesn't fit any form of the meaning of nice. And nice doesn't mean doormat. Nice men can be tough and hardcore too, imo . But still all the things you mentioned at the same time . 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 This topic used to matter to me in the literal sense, then I figured out that a positive life outlook, spiced with a bit of emotional serenity, indeed causes one to finish last, living a long life and dying with a smile on one's face as an old person in their bed. CH, it matters to a lot of guys, and some of the good ones say screw it and conform just to get "girls" or write off relationships completely.. I'm with you, I like peace, and completely enjoy NOT having my heart and mind played with- but that was my fault too. I think we are both in a good place. For me, only God can complete me and being a recovered relationship addict, life is much better now:D Link to post Share on other sites
Author pureinheart Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 And nice doesn't mean doormat. Nice men can be tough and hardcore too, imo . But still all the things you mentioned at the same time . You know what Pie, you're right. Amen to that... Link to post Share on other sites
The Introvert Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 That's poetic. M30USA, I think you are right like always....cause being nice doesn't neccessarily mean I am going to live a long life and die with a smile bla bla bla(like in a movie, lol).It's an unfair world where it's possible to have nice guys die horrible deaths at young age. Link to post Share on other sites
M30USA Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 That's poetic. M30USA, I think you are right like always....cause being nice doesn't neccessarily mean I am going to live a long life and die with a smile bla bla bla(like in a movie, lol).It's an unfair world where it's possible to have nice guys die horrible deaths at young age. My brother is a classical musician. He says that even in Mozart's most euphoric musical moments, there is always a hint of sadness or a reminder that it is temporary. This is the life we are living. I guess it can't be any other way. Link to post Share on other sites
The Introvert Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 No offense to the girls, but the nice guys don't need these types, they haven't matured ...and "I HATE seeing nice guys hurt". Me too....at first the strengths of nice guys are considered weaksnesses by these types but as they mature they begin to consider it otherwise.You know what,no offence to these guys, most bad guys are unsuccessfull people. Link to post Share on other sites
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