Emilia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Well...I appreciate that people like their threads to stay on topic, but sometimes there's a bit of a fine line between asking people to stay on topic and getting (dare I say it) a tiny bit control freakish about what direction the discussion can take. You seemed to be asking for people to define "bad boys" or bad boy traits - I'm guessing, in the context of understanding which ones women find attractive. I thought my post was fairly on topic in that regard, though I appreciate any mention of politicians can quickly take a discussion off track. That's bad boys for you, though. Those bastards always steal the limelight away from the nice guys. never argue with a lawyer that's all I can say :love: 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author therhythm Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Well...I appreciate that people like their threads to stay on topic, but sometimes there's a bit of a fine line between asking people to stay on topic and getting (dare I say it) a tiny bit control freakish about what direction the discussion can take. You seemed to be asking for people to define "bad boys" or bad boy traits - I'm guessing, in the context of understanding which ones women find attractive. I thought my post was fairly on topic in that regard, though I appreciate any mention of politicians can quickly take a discussion off track. That's bad boys for you, though. They always steal the limelight away from the nice guys. Definitely your first post was totally on topic and very interesting... the various following ones where not relevant anymore and the conversation was totally derailed to the political capacities to this concrete man and the sanity of his followers... I really don't want to make a big deal about this... it is not a big deal, I apreciate your post and I don't want to annoy you, I just want the thread to keep being about good boys and bad boys and not about Nigel Farage. Please do not take this personally, I am not trying to make you feel uncomfortable. Thank you ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 never argue with a lawyer that's all I can say :love: You should see what I'm like when I'm getting paid for it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Definitely your first post was totally on topic and very interesting... the various following ones where not relevant anymore and the conversation was totally derailed to the political capacities to this concrete man and the sanity of his followers... I really don't want to make a big deal about this... it is not a big deal, I apreciate your post and I don't want to annoy you, I just want the thread to keep being about good boys and bad boys and not about Nigel Farage. Please do not take this personally, I am not trying to make you feel uncomfortable. Thank you ! It's going to be a long upward struggle, therhythm. I can't and won't promise to get over the awkwardness of bad boys and good boys threadgate any time soon, but I can try. I will try! Okay, just to keep the being annoyingly British theme going a little bit more, here's Charlie Brooker talking about 10 people on adverts he thinks are arses. I love CB. He's the guy you want to sit down and watch the telly with. Generally a decent seeming man who is sarcastically funny enough to have reasonable "bad boy" credentials. The people he rails here against are a combination of nice, sensible simpering "good guys" and smug, politically incorrect bad boys. Worst of all, children who manage to balance being good guys (friendly and cheery) with being bad guys (overly confident little sh*ts). 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's going to be a long upward struggle, therhythm. I can't and won't promise to get over the awkwardness of bad boys and good boys threadgate any time soon, but I can try. I will try! Okay, just to keep the being annoyingly British theme going a little bit more, here's Charlie Brooker talking about 10 people on adverts he thinks are arses. I love CB. He's the guy you want to sit down and watch the telly with. Generally a decent seeming man who is sarcastically funny enough to have reasonable "bad boy" credentials. The people he rails here against are a combination of nice, sensible simpering "good guys" and smug, politically incorrect bad boys. Worst of all, children who manage to balance being good guys (friendly and cheery) with being bad guys (overly confident little sh*ts). :laugh: excellent! The ultimate British bad boy: Russell Brand. Russell Brand on MSNBC Mocking Media - YouTube 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author therhythm Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's going to be a long upward struggle, therhythm. I can't and won't promise to get over the awkwardness of bad boys and good boys threadgate any time soon, but I can try. I will try! Yeah, I often have that effect on women 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 :laugh: excellent! The ultimate British bad boy: Russell Brand. Russell Brand on MSNBC Mocking Media - YouTube Russell Brand is a phenomenon I just do not get. The first time I saw him on tv, he was presenting a discussion programme about Big Brother. My thoughts were a) how can one person have so many teeth? b) what a crappy presenter c) what a crappy show d) is it possible for a media wannabe to ever recover from the humiliation of presenting a discussion programme about a reality tv show? Now look at him. I'll admit it - I was wrong. He married Katy Perry, he was involved with Kate Moss and it seems as though every time a famous British woman dies (Amy Winehouse, Margaret Thatcher) dies, Russell Brand is invited to share his thoughts about it in the Guardian...followed by a million and one posts expressing admiration for how deep and articulate he is. How the hell did that happen? How did a man with hundreds of thousands of teeth and a pretentiously Gothic appearance who didn't even seem sufficiently competent to present a talk show about a reality tv show suddenly become genuinely funny, marry and divorce Katy Perry, get invited write extended obituaries about dead women in the Guardian and shag supermodels? You can't really argue with a CV like that. However much of a buffoon he might seem to be, Russell Brand's bad boy credentials are firmly in place. http://bestmalewallpapers.com/wallpapers/742-russell-brand-1024x768.jpg What's the world coming to, Emilia? What's it coming to? Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You can't really argue with a CV like that. However much of a buffoon he might seem to be, Russell Brand's bad boy credentials are firmly in place. http://bestmalewallpapers.com/wallpapers/742-russell-brand-1024x768.jpg What's the world coming to, Emilia? What's it coming to? :laugh: I used to hate him, now not so much. At least he doesn't have that disgusting hair. You see how he plays people in that clip though, especially the main anchor, he gets sexual very quickly: proper bad boy stuff. I think he is quick witted BUT he has the crazy, wide-eyed freak look going on like Robbie Williams. Too much drugs as a friend of mine said. I don't think he is particularly funny as a comedian but I think the clip demonstrates he is very good at rapport. Link to post Share on other sites
Author therhythm Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) :laugh: I used to hate him, now not so much. At least he doesn't have that disgusting hair. You see how he plays people in that clip though, especially the main anchor, he gets sexual very quickly: proper bad boy stuff. I think he is quick witted BUT he has the crazy, wide-eyed freak look going on like Robbie Williams. Too much drugs as a friend of mine said. I don't think he is particularly funny as a comedian but I think the clip demonstrates he is very good at rapport. OMG !!!! I used to admire him since he got to bang Katy Perry and Kate Moss but after that video he is my new hero :bunny: Edited June 19, 2013 by therhythm 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't think he is particularly funny as a comedian but I think the clip demonstrates he is very good at rapport. I think he manages to combine some of the more entertaining aspects of what you would normally associate with narcissistic personality disorder with what seems like genuine empathy. It seems like an unlikely combination, since they always say narcissism and empathy don't go together - but I'm mistrustful of these black and white rules that get applied to human nature. An ex of mine had elements of the Russell Brand about him. Not in looks but in terms of that combination of narcissism combined with a genuinely empathic side. That's a difficult thing to handle. You're more likely to take off your emotional armour and actually love somebody who has that soft, empathic side to them....and therefore get hurt/feel betrayed by them if and when it goes wrong. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I think he manages to combine some of the more entertaining aspects of what you would normally associate with narcissistic personality disorder with what seems like genuine empathy. It seems like an unlikely combination, since they always say narcissism and empathy don't go together - but I'm mistrustful of these black and white rules that get applied to human nature. An ex of mine had elements of the Russell Brand about him. Not in looks but in terms of that combination of narcissism combined with a genuinely empathic side. That's a difficult thing to handle. You're more likely to take off your emotional armour and actually love somebody who has that soft, empathic side to them....and therefore get hurt/feel betrayed by them if and when it goes wrong. Interesting because I didn't see it as narcistic (maybe that says something about me ) but a genuine expression of frustation with the uncouth superficiality of his environs. Of course he could have been 'nicer' but then again he is an exhibitionist (goes with the job) and he enjoys shocking people. I do think he remained more polite than those around him. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 This thread is highly intriguing to me Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 This thread is highly intriguing to me in what way? Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 in what way? It's perhaps the only badboy/good(nice) guy thread I've seen that is actually not inflammatory and actually interesting to read. The bit about the UKIP dude was particularly interesting - and I agree about Russell Brand too. I think the way he expresses himself is a part of his appeal - he has what I like to call a spectacular vernacular . 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's perhaps the only badboy/good(nice) guy thread I've seen that is actually not inflammatory and actually interesting to read. The bit about the UKIP dude was particularly interesting - and I agree about Russell Brand too. I think the way he expresses himself is a part of his appeal - he has what I like to call a spectacular vernacular . I think some of the posts reflect on how attraction is created - rather than focus on emotional reactions to personal experiences. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ltjg45 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's perhaps the only badboy/good(nice) guy thread I've seen that is actually not inflammatory and actually interesting to read. The bit about the UKIP dude was particularly interesting - and I agree about Russell Brand too. I think the way he expresses himself is a part of his appeal - he has what I like to call a spectacular vernacular . I couldn't think of anything positive after seeing his image and reading these posts. I will just chalk it up as something I rather not understand. Link to post Share on other sites
insomniax Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I am unsure of the stigma attached to tattoos and being a bad boy. I am heavily tattooed but also open doors for women i take out or just be respectful in general. If they are treating me well i do the same, i dont see how one could expect any le:ss. Link to post Share on other sites
BeholdtheMan Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Loser: Low confidence guy who lacks personal integrity (usually sleazy, slinking around like a weasel) Good boy: Spineless yes-man always trying to please others for a pat on the head, never stands up for himself or asserts what he wants...at least tries to be "a good person" Bad boy: confident, bold guy who lacks personal integrity Gentleman: confident, bold guy who values personal integrity Link to post Share on other sites
Author therhythm Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Women can be passive and get a relationship but not the other way around This is a good guys / bad guys thread... I don't know how the passivity or lack of passivity of women when dating has anything to do with it... Link to post Share on other sites
Southern Cal Dude Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I am unsure of the stigma attached to tattoos and being a bad boy. I am heavily tattooed but also open doors for women i take out or just be respectful in general. If they are treating me well i do the same, i dont see how one could expect any le:ss. So many have tats these days the bad boy image there is gone. I have 7 tats myself. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetkiwi Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 So many have tats these days the bad boy image there is gone. I have 7 tats myself. Don't call them "tats"....trust me. Link to post Share on other sites
Adele0908 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) A good boy to me is somewhat who conforms and doesn't think for himself. Basically someone who cares about fitting in. A bad boy to me is someone who marches to the beat of his own drum. A bad boy breaks conventional unspoken rules, makes his own rules, and sometimes breaks those! To me, they are two extremes, and neither one is appealing to me long term. I prefer someone who falls in between. A healthy balance of spirituality and raw sexual energy. One part gentleman and one part caveman. Edited June 26, 2013 by Adele0908 2 Link to post Share on other sites
insomniax Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Don't call them "tats"....trust me. This. I just know I have 200 ish hours done and plan on getting plenty more . It's cool if a girl I am interested in likes them but it doesn't matter much to me they are not for anyone else but myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan R. Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 So many have tats these days the bad boy image there is gone. I have 7 tats myself. I don't know, probably placement and tattoo type has something to do with it. I still think a guy with a lot of tattoos projects a "bad boy" image a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The nice/good guy trope! 13 Reasons Why Nice Guys Are The Worst If you don't recognize this on LS, you haven't read many threads. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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