Marriage: What's the point?

[hotgurl]

Moose,

Did you really not be leave in evolution? How do you explain all the data and historical evidence. Is it all made up or lies?

 

Homo sexuality happens in animals is that a sin too. How can animals sin since they are not aware of their action?

[Moose]

Did you really not be leave in evolution? How do you explain all the data and historical evidence. Is it all made up or lies?

 

Nope, I don't believe in evolution and I believe that the data and historical evidence will someday be explained away. I don't believe in evolution simply because if I came from an ape, then why are there still apes? How come they didn't evolve right along with us? I thinks it's nonsense.

 

My opinion is the data and historical facts are just a distraction placed by Satan to mislead you and all who believe in those things. It's possible for man to come up with false data, and to make mistakes recording history.

Then, it could all be true too but if it is it's only because God created it. It's clear to me in Scripture where man and women came from.

 

Homo sexuality happens in animals is that a sin too. How can animals sin since they are not aware of their action?

 

I think you answered your own question there. Also, animals don't have souls.

[blind_otter]

Originally posted by Moose

Nope, I don't believe in evolution and I believe that the data and historical evidence will someday be explained away. I don't believe in evolution simply because if I came from an ape, then why are there still apes? How come they didn't evolve right along with us? I thinks it's nonsense.

 

I think you answered your own question there. Also, animals don't have souls.

 

Just an FYI, according to evolutionary theory, we actually evolved from the ANCESTOR to modern primates, with various sub-species splitting off according to the specific demands of their environment.

 

Darwin's idea for this came from the Galapagos Islands, where there are several sub-species of Finches that are startlingly different from the birds of the mainland, each with very specific demands to their physiology - mainly having to do with beak size.

 

The idea is that species change gradually over time depending on the challenges they face in their environment, basically those more suited to the environment have more offspring and over time the characteristics of the entire population start to show similar changes....but the argument against this would be that God created these specificities.

 

I went to Catholic school for 9 years (I hate to say it but we joked about Protestants - called them "catholic-lite religions" because Protestants don't have to do reconciliation or stations of the cross or all the other tedious rituals I grew up with) and the nuns reconciled the bible and evolution by saying that God created the evolutionary process.

[Moose]

Just an FYI, according to evolutionary theory

 

That's all it is.....theory.

[hotgurl]

so do you teach your kids evolution. What about school. What if they want to go into science?

 

I think mathmetically speaking there are more people who be leave in evolution than adam & eve as truth. Are they all wrong?

[Moose]

so do you teach your kids evolution. What about school. What if they want to go into science?

 

I don't teach them evolution. They believe in creation. Their School teaches them the theory of evolution, and that's how they perceive it as, theory. Luckily, we live in the, "Bible Belt" and most of our teachers are Christian.

 

My eldest son aspiring to be an paleontologist.....he probably has more answers than I do about this stuff.....I'm ignorant on the subject.

 

I think mathmetically speaking there are more people who be leave in evolution than adam & eve as truth. Are they all wrong?

 

It's not for me to say that their belief is right or wrong. Everyone is free to believe what they wish. I do too, just like I was trying to explain to Dyer. If you want to know what my opinion is, yes, I do think that they are wrong......remember, I'm not telling you it's wrong, I'm telling you it's my opinion that they're wrong.

 

(Some people can't tell the difference between one man's opinion and actual fact.)

[hotgurl]

Moose,

I enjoy talking with you. I have always found religion fascinating. Every religion. But to argue semantic if your opinion is that their wrong then it's a fact that you think their wrong.

 

I have trouble reconciling creationism with history like how did we get from there to here. What do you think of the ancient Greeks, Egyptians etc.. Also what do you think of the church? I also thought there was a difference between the church and god. I don't think the institution of catholism is necessarily representative of god's words

[Weird]

I havent read any of this thread except for the last few posts. All I will say is according to what I have read regarding the bible God was ok with divorce.

 

As for marriage, I think it is a good idea but humans have flawed it big time and now all I see it as is alegal contract you can get screwed from.

 

Deep down I still want ot get married but the logical part of my brain says it would be silly and just puts me into a corner where nothing but bad stuff could potentially happen and a woman could go and take half my stuff.

[Moose]

First off, thanks! I enjoy talking with you as well.

 

I have always found religion fascinating. Every religion. But to argue semantic if your opinion is that their wrong then it's a fact that you think their wrong.

 

What I mean is that although I think and have an opinion that they are wrong doesn't neccessarily mean that they are. I choose to believe in creation, not evolution. And that God has a plan and a structure for a successfull marriage. And that God created Marriage. These are all right to me in my way of thinking. Whether I'm right or wrong makes no difference to me. I choose to believe that people who believe in evolution are wrong. So your statement would be absolutley correct.

 

What do you think of the ancient Greeks, Egyptians etc..

 

That God created them as well, for His own purpose. Also that they had very interesting cultures. The Egyptians totally blows me away with all the feats they accomplished.

 

Also what do you think of the church?

 

That the Church belongs to God. And that God loves His Church to the extend of using how the husband should love his wife as the Lord loves His Church.

[dyermaker]

Moose, sincerely interested:

 

Do you believe the sun revolves around the Earth?

Do you believe that the sky is really a dome of water? '

Do you believe in germs?

Do you believe in genetics?

Do you believe the moon landing was simply a satanic mistake of recording history?

Do you believe that changes in a species are a result of God tinkering with his creation?

Do you believe that people who lived before the Bible was written could still be saved?

 

How do you account for the two differing creation stories I alluded to earlier?

Are you aware of any of the other numerous contradictions in the Bible?

[Moose]

Dyer,

 

I wasn't going to answer your questions....I'm thinking that it's possible that you're setting me up. Then I read your first sentence again, you said that you're sincerely interested. So, I'm going to answer them, but I'm moving this to another forum. We've gotten way too far off the subject of this thread, so it's time to move off of here to another venue.

 

I'm going to start a thread in the personal rants and confessions forum. This way the Moderators won't have to go in here and do a bunch of deleting.

 

I hope this is ok with you Dyer, I'm going to title it, "Dyer, Moose, Religion". I would put it in the religious, spiritual forum, but this is more of a personal subject now. Hope you don't mind. I'll see you in there.