Salacious details within – Sex, Lies, and Audiotape! Did she cheat? Opinion needed!

[BreatheForABit]

So my girlfriend (we’ll call her G) and I have been dating since November 30, 2012. A few months after meeting, she and her two children moved into my house with my child and me (we’ll call myself B). A few weeks ago, I had my cousin staying on the couch in the living room while he was working nearby. I have a high definition audio recording device installed in my home for security purposes. The cousin staying on the couch (we’ll call him M) knew about this device, but my girlfriend did not know about it at the time. I believe she cheated on me with him on her day off work, here are the facts gleaned from the audio recording:

 

 

 

• · I leave house for work at 7:12AM and bring all of our kids to childcare.
  
• · At 7:23AM, M talks to a female who is inside my house near our bedroom door and tells her to “look at me” and to “walk over here".
  
• · Approximately 5 seconds after M instructs her to walk, she walks towards office area from bedroom area.
  
• · At 7:24AM the dog runs over to see what is going on in or near the office.
  
• · From 7:25AM to 7:33AM there are obvious sounds of a sexual nature. Both G and myself agree that it is in fact M in the recording and there is a second person with whom he is engaging in this activity. The activity is oral, specifically.
  
• · At 7:36 I hear what I think is M saying G’s name lightly. G disagrees however by saying M is only saying one syllable where her name has two.
  

 

 

 

M has been known to employ the services of a prostitute from time to time. M knows barely anyone in our city since he had just started working here.

There are NO footsteps coming to or from either entry doorway before or after the oral event until around 10:30AM when G claims is the time she awoke and went outside.

 

 

It’s an old house, the floors are really creaky and some creaks are distinctive when compared with others, such as the creak by our bedroom door.

 

 

During the 11 minutes between when I left and when M is talking to the woman who pleasures him orally at 7:25AM, M goes pee for about 1 minute, takes a dump for about 3 minutes and watches some TV. The point here is that only leaves a small window of time for M to call a prostitute and for her to arrive and sneak into the house without walking from any of the entry doors.

 

 

So I asked G many times over what she was doing during those 11 minutes mentioned directly above… her reply is that she was sound asleep until 10:30AM or so. I repeatedly asked (at least 20 times) if she was SURE and if she was doing ANYTHING else that she may be forgetting about. She swore up and down and on everything that is important in her life (family, children, etc.) that she was sound asleep during those 11 minutes after I left. But then I look at her internet usage on her mobile phone and it indicated she was actually using her phone to check on financial information from 7:13AM until 7:23AM. Her explanation is that she “forgot and she doesn’t remember mornings that well.”

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, G and M are implying that I am crazy for thinking this could occur, they both suggest counseling in an attempt to place the blame squarely on me for this situation. I am here to see what others think about this considering the FACTS above. I will post a link to the original recording and to the browser logs in question if it would be helpful.

 

Please let me know what you all think happened here. Do you think that 11 minutes is long enough to do a morning routine and get a prostitute into the house who says not a word and sneaks around the creaky floor to get to near our bedroom and then have M instruct her to walk towards the office? Or do you believe it was G and M who were doing the deed? I think when M said “look at me” he did a HUSH symbol over his mouth and instructed G to walk to the office since he knew about the audio recording device. Then obviously you can hear what happened from there. No footsteps in or out of the house other than M’s and eventually G’s much later in the day.

 

 

G says that it must have been another woman who came to the house that early in the morning to service M. She swears up and down that it was not her and that she would never do that. She swore up and down about sleeping during that 11 minute span though too…

 

 

G has come up with numerous theories on what could have happened that morning… When first presented with the audio she said he could have been watching a porno, masturbating. G, myself, and a couple others have verified that is not the case. It’s actual activity with another woman in my house. That much is agreed upon.

 

 

Next, it could have been a prostitute or a girlfriend who came in the house within 11 minutes of my leaving. So I listened for footsteps near the entry doors, the dog barking, knocking, greeting, etc. NONE of that is found in the original audio. Listen for yourself if you like.

 

 

Then, he must have snuck a girl in through our bedroom window (since he is talking to her near our bedroom door 11 minutes after I leave). Does that sound logical?

 

 

What other scenarios are there here? Can anyone postulate what may have occurred? Not a floating woman, or a “BJ fairy” or anything absurd like that, but a real possibility!

 

 

Please, only comment on what you think is most likely to have been the case here, not on any other aspect of relationships in general. No need to tell us that polygraphs are unreliable either, I found that out soon enough! Apparently I am crazy and need counseling so I just wanted to get others take on this whole thing to see if I am really insane or am I thinking rationally with the evidence at hand. Thanks in advance! :D:D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Below is G’s addition to this post, I will place it in quotes and you can read her side of this story. I will post the audio soon as well.

 

 

 

 

My boyfriend and I have a dilemma, so we are both posting on this forum to get some advice from people who do not personally know either of us. A male cousin of my boyfriend’s was staying with us at our house for about a week, and my boyfriend has audio set up in the house to record what goes on in the house. I was unaware of the audio program; however, his cousin had been told about it. This cousin is believed to be notoriously untrustworthy, so my boyfriend set up a little “test” to see if his cousin would take the bait and try to make a move on me, and if I would reciprocate.

 

 

 

 

 

On the morning in question, my boyfriend got up and got himself ready for work, then came into our bedroom to say goodbye to me and tell me that he loves me. I stayed in the bedroom in bed after he left to take our kids to school and go to work, and did a few things on my phone (which, when questioned, I did not remember doing because I had just been woken up). After about 10 minutes of internet activity on my phone, I fell back asleep until about 10:30 am. While I was sleeping, however, there were sounds of a sexual nature that were captured on the audio recording. My boyfriend heard these sounds and automatically thought the worst; that I had cheated on him with his cousin in our house. However, I did not come in contact with the cousin until almost 3 hours after these sounds were captured on the audio program. When I woke up, I walked out of the bedroom to an empty house, and followed my usual morning ritual. While I was using the restroom, the cousin came in the back door of our house and said “_________, are you awake? Your neighbor is out here and wants to talk to you”. I replied with, “I’m in the bathroom, I’ll be out in just a minute”.

 

 

 

 

 

My boyfriend and I have been dating for approximately seven months, and I have ALWAYS been faithful to him. From the very first night we met, even before entering into a relationship, I knew that he was the man I wanted to be involved with, and I would not do anything to jeopardize what we have. When he first approached me with this evidence, I even volunteered to take a polygraph examination to prove that I was indeed telling him the truth…a polygraph test that I passed with flying colors because I have nothing to hide from him. Unfortunately, despite my telling him hundreds, if not thousands of times that I did not do anything with his cousin, and passing the polygraph test, he still has a hard time believing that I did not cheat on him. Does anyone have any advice they can offer to help us through this difficult time?

[jen_r]

When you asked your cousin, who did he say the girl was?

[BreatheForABit]

No, he denies even being there when one can plainly tell that it was him in the audio. He was on the couch when I left that morning, but he say's "it's not me" when he was the only dude in the house when I left. Basically he is stonewalling, which is expected of him. I've known him for 20+ years.

Edited June 27, 2013 by BreatheForABit

[Balzac]

He isn't about to throw her under the bus ~ after all you go to work many days.

[Phantom888]

The evidence shows that they are lying. G said she was sleeping when clearly she wasn't. There were no sounds of entrance by anyone, which means the occupants were the only ones there. Yes they cheated in your house. Kick them out.

[veggirl]

So where does she say she was when this happened? sleeping? but you know she wasn't? so that's cool she has no problem lying to your face.

this story can't be real....

if it is, yeah she prob cheated.

 

guess this is why you don't move people into your house when you've only known them for a couple months.

[BradJacobs]

Is this dude still living on your sofa? If so, stop posting and kick him out.

 

Then decide what to do about her and her kids.

[BreatheForABit]

Hello, this is "G". If it's so apparent that I cheated on "B", here is a very simple question for you...why in the world would I offer to take a polygraph exam to clear my name about all of this? I could see maybe if he suggested me taking it and me reluctantly agreeing to it, but the polygraph not only was MY idea, but I was the one who pushed for it to be done sooner rather than later.

[BreatheForABit]

@Balzac--Both "B" and myself ("G") work full time. I have a job where I sometimes get a day off during the week, whereas other times my day off is not until Saturday. "B"'s job is strictly Monday thru Friday. My days off change from week to week; it's never the same day every week.

 

@BRADJACOBS--No, the cousin has since gone back to the city he lives in, and refuses to come back because he is tired of being accused of something that did not happen between the he and I. I am also tired of being accused of such...but I love my boyfriend too much to throw away our relationship over something that I never did.

[BreatheForABit]

Hello, this is "G" again...so can you honestly say that you remember everything you do on any given day from the first moment you open your eyes? You're not disoriented and unsure of surroundings or goings on? So to answer your post, I did not lie to his face about not remembering doing something on my phone for 10 or 11 minutes. I simply did not remember doing so, because I was half asleep when I was using my phone...then fell back asleep until 10:30 that morning. I did not even so much as walk out of our bedroom the first time I woke up before he left for work.

[BreatheForABit]

Adding the audio, it's in a widely used format for easy listening. This is only the first 30 minutes, I can upload the next 30 too but it shows no activity after M leaves. No one leaving before or after M leaves...

 

@3:30 - I leave and close the back door.

@5:45 - M walks to kitchen and makes coffee.

@6:08 - M uses stove.

@13:38 - TV is turned on.

@15:04 - M walks to near our bedroom door and says "look at me" and "walk over here". Dog doesn't bark or anything indicating a person at the back door.

@15:11 - Someone other than M walks slowly a short distance from near our bedroom door towards office.

@15:43 - Dog walks over to office area to investigate.

@17:00 - Slurpy noises...

@17:32 - Increased slurpy noises...

@19:03 - Someone gags, then M says "Breathe for a bit" and "Go up a little bit".

@20:00 - Possible female moan...

@23:35 - Someone turns on an HBO on-demand adult movie.

@24:57 - Grunting and vigorous slurping...

@27:45 - M say's someones name, I think it is G's name. Can you make out what M is saying here? If you can guess the name correctly then we'll know for sure!

@28:08 - M grunts with satisfaction.

 

The next 30 minutes of audio has M blaring the TV extra loud, possibly to mask something but that is too garbled to make anything out of.

 

Audio

 

A good, free, audio listening and editing program to reduce noise is Audacity. I used it to try and clean up this audio but it's not much better so I just posted the original audio and let you decide!

Edited June 28, 2013 by BreatheForABit

[Keke1]

Is this Ish for real?

[HEY2147]

Disclaimer:Im only writing what i think i hear but you should not base this on anything there is an great chance Im wrong as this audio is very hard to tell what is happening but from this I can see why you are suspicious oh and I am writing it down as I hear it because I reviewed it multiple times

 

 

I dont know if you notice that you can hear a woman moan or heavily exhale after M grunts 28:12 i dont know if you catch that maybe cause i have really good head phones that i could hear it but seems very odd

 

the possible female moon starts at 19:58 cant hear it 20:04 hear it agin at 20:18 20:24 it starts to get inaudiable after that but i think still moaning until 20:30 but 20:18 Id bet money that was a moan

 

29:30 i think i hear a AHH (female)

 

26:41 M mmmm

 

26:48 M exhales

 

26:54 female exhailing

 

27:13 holy **** im 95% sure its feamale moan after the cats meow commercial is off

 

27:45 "Holly"?

 

28:13 in between the grunting i hear the female moans/exhale

 

28:23 female moan

 

25:11 i think i hear grunting

 

26:01 and 26:06-26:13 moan (female)

 

25:11 possible grunting

 

15:51 i think i could hear a soft ahhh but not 100% sure right before M sounds like hes clearing his thoat

 

16:30 i could hear M go mmm, mmmmmmm

 

I can definitely see why you are so suspicious especially at the end when he grunts in satisfaction and I hear the female exhaling heavily but this is just my input but remember this

 

“The mistake is thinking that there can be an antidote to the uncertainty.”

― David Levithan

Edited June 28, 2013 by HEY2147

[BreatheForABit]

This is "G". I have listened to this audio several times myself, and if you listen closer to the part where you think M is saying "Holly", it sounds more like a one syllable word or name, not a two syllable word or name. My name is two syllables, and all of the times I heard the audio I thought M was saying "what".

 

Ok, now B wants to say something in regards to your message...

 

 

 

"Holly" is not G's name but it is kinda close I guess. I hear two syllables as well at 27:45, but G only hears one.

[HEY2147]

You two should not take me thinking that M said Holly too seriously as that part of the audio is way too hard to hear because of the cat commercial but it doesn't sound like a "what" to me but if you have better audio version id be happy to hear it and the possibility of him watching porn I mean anythings possible but i dont know because who watches porn on a computer or something with the TV super loud and then switches the channel to HBO Cathouse (I have HBO too I remember the intro to the show) then switches to a annoying cats meow show cuz that was super annoying if he was having sex (which I think he was but not sure but I do know it was something cuz no man grunts like that unless hes ejaculating) how did that not kill the mood

Also to B all this is a little fishy for me with the audio and the cousin going away when the issue came up and the "I dont remembers" I would keep my guard up Im not saying that you did anything G but me looking at this from B perspective it doesnt look good

Edited June 28, 2013 by HEY2147

[HEY2147]

I reheard the tape at 15:04 I think i found something odd I think I can hear the door close (barely like 20%) when M says "look at me" I most positively hear man say "what" then M says lets go over there not walk over there and I think he says silently "ok" I think its the type of head phones Im using that makes me hear it better either way its VERY STRANGE

[Darren Steez]

What it this? A detective thread? Recording no one can hear, a split personality poster, salacious=circumstantial=meh

[Miss_Contemplating]

Okay, so i love CSI.

 

I can definitely hear someone doing something.

 

Okay, so you set up a test, but not too well. Why did you have to let the cousin know you were recording? Also, video cameras aren't that expensive. Yes, that would be even weirder, but at least you wouldn't have this dilemma.

 

I think it's always good to look at things from two perspectives (not from B's or G's) but from worst case scenario and best case scenario.

 

Worst case is, your cousin knew about the audio, and he even told G about it that's why they weren't so loud. I mean you didn't hear any footsteps. They didn't know the audio would still catch something.

 

Best case scenario, your cousin knew about it, and also because G was sleeping in the next room, that's why they were or tried to be quiet. He didn't call a girl, but arranged for her to come over after texting her. Maybe he even said G's name, but only because it was a turn on for him.

 

Ask your cousin to tell you what happened. Tell him you don't blame him, that you just want to know. Maybe if he is a bad liar, and if he does have a story that doesn't sound too far off.

 

Also, try to sneak in and out of the house without making noise. And when you say someone is coming from here to there. How do you know that is the place they are coming from/towards? You made a script about it being the worst case, try and make a script as if someone else is there. Maybe they even spend the night, maybe they didn't leave straight after, or maybe they did go out (maybe even in) through the window, since your cousin knows better than to bring someone there.

 

Also, someone being at the bedroom (if) doesn't help that she got off the internet at exactly the same time. So also check if the clocks are synced.

 

Also, what about other audio tapes? Or other things? I think you would find more than just someone caving in like that. Go back to the audio tapes, that's what CSI would do.

 

Seriously, good luck.

[E050822]

It's G again...I realize with all of the evidence and audio, it doesn't look good at all...however, I know deep down inside that I have always been faithful to B. From the first day we met, I have never been with another man. If I had done this, I would have admitted it...I have an extremely guilty conscience.

[Arabella]

It's G again...I realize with all of the evidence and audio, it doesn't look good at all...however, I know deep down inside that I have always been faithful to B. From the first day we met, I have never been with another man. If I had done this, I would have admitted it...I have an extremely guilty conscience.

 

Ok so instead of making emotional appeals and asking him/us to just believe you... how do YOU explain it? The facts are pretty damn clear.

[E050822]

Arabella, I'm not so much making emotional appeals as telling people that I know this is not something I would do, or want to do for that matter. B has told me some disgusting things about M, and I do not find him attractive in the least.

 

I always do things on my phone first thing in the morning while I wake up a little ...smoke a cigarette and look at things on my phone, like games and emails. I did not remember doing it that morning, because I think I was still in sleep mode because it was my day off and I knew I didn't need to go anywhere. I ended up falling back to sleep, and I am a very sound sleeper. I didn't hear M coughing, or walking around, or blaring the TV...and when I woke up again at 10:30, he was gone, working down the street. Shortly after I woke up, he opened the back door and asked if I was awake, because our neighbor was outside and wanted to talk to me.

[pteromom]

G:

 

My question for you is why is it ok with you to have a boyfriend who secretly records you, makes you prove your whereabouts and analyze a recording, then disbelieve you when you say it isn't you?

 

If you truly did not cheat, you have a bigger issue here than making him believe you. He has issues. The fact that he even felt he needed to set up a "test" to prove your faithfulness is disgusting.

 

Is that really the kind of relationship you want? What's next? You will have a GPS device on your car and have to keep a log of all the places you go and people you see? You will have to explain who all the people are on your phone contact list?

 

I would choose to walk away from this situation.

[GorillaTheater]

I would choose to walk away from this situation.

 

I think everyone involved should walk away from this bizarreness.

[BreatheForABit]

Yes, we have agreed to disagree that what is said is or isn’t her name. I will have to have the audio analyzed, not cheap but worth it for peace of mind.

 

 

Pteromom: This is explained in the OP. The audio is part of security system, it records for 48 hours and you then delete it or keep it. Where we live isn’t exactly the best part of town, nor the worst by far. But again, this thread is about what happened that morning and about getting different, independent input about the facts of the matter. Your opinions about the security system aside, do you have any comment as to the OP question?

 

 

As for “the test” it really wasn’t considered that until after I discovered the goings on in the audio of that morning. I did say it was “a test” of sorts but by no means did I actually set it up as such.

[drifter777]

Yes, we have agreed to disagree that what is said is or isn’t her name. I will have to have the audio analyzed, not cheap but worth it for peace of mind.

 

 

Pteromom: This is explained in the OP. The audio is part of security system, it records for 48 hours and you then delete it or keep it. Where we live isn’t exactly the best part of town, nor the worst by far. But again, this thread is about what happened that morning and about getting different, independent input about the facts of the matter. Your opinions about the security system aside, do you have any comment as to the OP question?

 

 

As for “the test” it really wasn’t considered that until after I discovered the goings on in the audio of that morning. I did say it was “a test” of sorts but by no means did I actually set it up as such.

 

Did I understand you to say your cousin was aware of the recording device?