Salacious details within – Sex, Lies, and Audiotape! Did she cheat? Opinion needed!

[E050822]

This is all I really was to her in the first place. A place to stay to ease the bills. She's tried nearly every manipulative tactic in the book to avoid leaving. Not going to work, I can see right through those manipulative tactics like "you'll be forever alone", "it's all your fault", "you're just crazy", "I'm going to ruin your life", and "I wish I could erase the last 7 months" (i.e. - "I never really loved you anyways").

 

Not quite...it was your idea to move my children and I in with you...and it was me paying the majority of the bills and footing $300 trips to the grocery store.

[E050822]

Ladies, I'd strongly advise against online dating sites...apparently these are the type of men you find there. Controlling, insecure ones.

[IHateHypocrites]

Get a room, you two!

[IT Geek]

and possibly make me spend $2,000+ on audio enhancement when it was already obvious what happened.

 

That slut isn't worth the effort. Move on to someone that you trust and you can spend that $2000 on a nice vacation!

[IT Geek]

You can't go on without telling us:

 

a) how you beat the poly

 

b) how you knew you would beat the poly

 

She blew the poly operator, probably.

[beach]

Oh, it's done, alright. But since he left me with nothing to my name and won't help me get back on my feet with finding another place to live for my children and I, he's stuck with me here until I can get enough money set aside for an apartment or house to rent.

 

Stop blaming HIM.

 

It's not up to him to help you find a place to live/move.

 

And he didn't force you to spend grocery money.

 

Blame yourself for how YOU CHOSE to participate.

 

You are a grown woman - start acting like one. It's never been - and not HIS job to provide for you.

 

Move. Move today. Learn to provide for yourself and never be dependent on a man again.

 

What you are showing your kids is terribly destructive to their well being.

 

Get out on your own! And provide them a safe and nurturing home!

[CarrieT]

Oh, it's done, alright. But since he left me with nothing to my name and won't help me get back on my feet with finding another place to live for my children and I, he's stuck with me here until I can get enough money set aside for an apartment or house to rent.

 

Okay...

 

This begs the question - what did HE do that left you broke and bereft? How were you supporting you and your children before he came into your life?

 

What did he do that left you with "nothing to your name?"

 

And - why should he bear the brunt of paying for you to move?

 

None of this makes sense...

[E050822]

That slut isn't worth the effort. Move on to someone that you trust and you can spend that $2000 on a nice vacation!

 

First of all, I'm not a slut. Secondly, this is all part of a pattern, apparently. He also accused his last girlfriend of cheating on him, with M's brother. Probably accused all of his past girlfriends. They get close, he freaks out.

[E050822]

That slut isn't worth the effort. Move on to someone that you trust and you can spend that $2000 on a nice vacation!

 

First of all, I'm not a slut. Secondly, this is all part of a pattern, apparently. He also accused his last girlfriend of cheating on him, with M's brother. Probably accused all of his past girlfriends. They get close, he freaks out. And this is a guy, now that I've seen how he operates, where it's his way or no way. He doesn't see it any other way.

[Realist3]

First of all, I'm not a slut. Secondly, this is all part of a pattern, apparently. He also accused his last girlfriend of cheating on him, with M's brother. Probably accused all of his past girlfriends. They get close, he freaks out. And this is a guy, now that I've seen how he operates, where it's his way or no way. He doesn't see it any other way.

 

If it is clear from here, it should be clear to you that this guy is no good. He has jealousy and control issues that will doom any relationship he is involved with.

[jolie_baby]

is this thread for real?

if it was, it seems to me the lady did it, even confessed at one point.

just leave her. or you leave him. either. you are both cowards and one of you is terribly manipulative. its hard to tell who is, because you keep changing your stories and, once it gets boring, you add new little details to spice it up.

[beach]

First of all, I'm not a slut. Secondly, this is all part of a pattern, apparently. He also accused his last girlfriend of cheating on him, with M's brother. Probably accused all of his past girlfriends. They get close, he freaks out. And this is a guy, now that I've seen how he operates, where it's his way or no way. He doesn't see it any other way.

 

It doesn't matter!

 

Have you moved?

 

What action are you taking TODAY to eliminate him from your life?

[Chi townD]

Damn! This is getting WAY too frickin toxic. Either you two need to get into counseling or go your seperate ways, QUICKLY! If there's kids involved, they don't need to see this.....

[SammySammy]

is this thread for real?

if it was, it seems to me the lady did it, even confessed at one point.

just leave her. or you leave him. either. you are both cowards and one of you is terribly manipulative. its hard to tell who is, because you keep changing your stories and, once it gets boring, you add new little details to spice it up.

 

I think she did it too.

 

To me, it also seems that she has experience at getting accused of or getting caught cheating before. It seems that she learned to stick to her story until proven guilty.

 

She's done a marvelous job, but I don't believe a word of it.

 

B may be controlling and have trust issues, but it may be best for both to get out of this relationship because this girl seems to be an expert liar.

[veggirl]

Oh, it's done, alright. But since he left me with nothing to my name and won't help me get back on my feet with finding another place to live for my children and I, he's stuck with me here until I can get enough money set aside for an apartment or house to rent.

 

that's why you don't move your KIDS in with a man you've known for 7 months! sheesh! poor things

[Trimmer]

Did they finally decide that maybe this wasn't the place to air it all out after all? It's kinda like when a sleazy reality show gets cancelled. You know it was wrong and awful, and you felt guilty for watching, but inside, you have to admit that you miss it just a tiny bit...

[BreatheForABit]

Did they finally decide that maybe this wasn't the place to air it all out after all? It's kinda like when a sleazy reality show gets cancelled. You know it was wrong and awful, and you felt guilty for watching, but inside, you have to admit that you miss it just a tiny bit...

 

You mean listening right? So I think the big lesson here is that anyone considering security equipment, DON'T SKIMP!!! Definitely buy the video systems and not only audio recorders, otherwise you could run into this type of situation where everyone just says "it wasn't me"! Even with a video, I feel that I would be facing the same defense! "Must have been a girl who looked just like me." or "That's been photoshopped." etc.

 

"It wasn't me" by Shaggy

[BreatheForABit]

I think she did it too.

 

To me, it also seems that she has experience at getting accused of or getting caught cheating before. It seems that she learned to stick to her story until proven guilty.

 

She's done a marvelous job, but I don't believe a word of it.

 

B may be controlling and have trust issues, but it may be best for both to get out of this relationship because this girl seems to be an expert liar.

 

 

Exactly how I see it. She wouldn't budge an inch on being awake after I left, I asked for a day or two straight. It was always "I swear on my kids, and my life that I went right back to sleep after you left".

 

Then I presented the evidence that proved that she was awake during the ten minutes after I left using the phone to surf the web. Then she finally admits to lying. Now she says I only lied to you once, but I'm really telling the truth about me sleeping after that and not doing anything with M. Sure, she'd lie about such a little detail, but NOT about the sex? Do any of you believe that?

 

Also, if she was awake at the same time that M says "walk over here" to this alleged "other girl" who came over just in time, she would have heard him and her walking and possibly even seen them walking past the bedroom door, which was WIDE OPEN when I left. She contends that M must have closed it before bringing this other girl to the office. Yet she never mentioned that before, seeing as she WAS AWAKE ON HER PHONE AT THAT EXACT TIME, one would think that would be remembered.

 

If you listen to the first audio, from about 5:45 to 15:04, do you notice anyone entering the house? I don't. But at 15:04 M asks this person to "walk over here" and at 15:11 this person walks over there, a short distance.

 

B says it must have been someone else who came over during that time. But I don't hear anyone entering the house. Notice the footsteps of a person without shoes on at 15:11, do you hear any of the same footsteps before that time during the 5:45 to 15:04 time frame? I don't think I do, but I must be missing something in the audio.

[CarrieT]

So, BFaB, has she moved out yet?

 

Where do you two stand?

[E050822]

So, BFaB, has she moved out yet?

 

Where do you two stand?

 

BFab?!? Is he having an online affair with you, too?

 

And no, I haven't moved out yet. I shouldn't have to be rushed out of here because he is too insecure to see the truth. All the while, he's messaging other women on an online dating site while he tells me he still wants to work things out. Uh huh, sure. That's not exactly the type of behavior I would expect from someone who wants to "work it out". He knows d*mn well deep down that I didn't cheat on him, nor would I. He's just got too many skeletons in the closet to allow for a normal relationship.

[The Way I Am]

Still sticking with the bs line that your eavesdropping/invasion of privacy device is for security I see. Don't worry about anyone else "skimping on security" and going with only audio. No one genuinely ever has or ever will. I don't usually speak in sweeping generalizations, but in this case, the concept of an audio only device for any kind of security is just that idiotic.

[CarrieT]

BFab?!? Is he having an online affair with you, too?

Ummmmmm - no. I'm just too damned lazy to write out his whole name.

 

And no, I haven't moved out yet. I shouldn't have to be rushed out of here because he is too insecure to see the truth.

The question would then be to you - why do you want to stay there and subject your children to such vitriolic atmosphere?

[E050822]

 

 

The question would then be to you - why do you want to stay there and subject your children to such vitriolic atmosphere?

 

Simply put, because at this point I don't have a choice. I used my tax return to pay bills, get things that my children needed, and bought furniture for he and I that he didn't have. When I first met him, he had a twin sized mattress on the floor of the bedroom. So when I got my tax return, I bought a queen size mattress and boxspring set and two dressers, along with a chair for his office and a trundle bed for my kids.

 

He is planning on renting one of the rental houses to me, once it is made into livable conditions. The house is currently being worked on, but it will take at least another solid week of work before it will be ready for my kids and I, if not two weeks.

[E050822]

Still sticking with the bs line that your eavesdropping/invasion of privacy device is for security I see. Don't worry about anyone else "skimping on security" and going with only audio. No one genuinely ever has or ever will. I don't usually speak in sweeping generalizations, but in this case, the concept of an audio only device for any kind of security is just that idiotic.

 

I'm glad you're looking at this from the same perspective I am!! I find it absolutely assinine that he has this audio...not to mention that he claims it is for security purposes. Noooo...it is used to spy on everyone that goes in the house, because he doesn't trust anyone. Which means he doesn't trust his own daughter, either...

[CarrieT]

not to mention that he claims it is for security purposes. Noooo...it is used to spy on everyone that goes in the house, because he doesn't trust anyone.

 

He said you knew of its existence - is that true?

 

And if so, what rationale did you think of someone that had an audio surveillance in their own home?