Salacious details within – Sex, Lies, and Audiotape! Did she cheat? Opinion needed!

[HEY2147]

G Im actually starting to believe you because everytime i review the audio i keep finding more and more stuff (even more when i start using audacity) like at the end of when M does the money shot there are female moans around that time but then i notice that the female moans sound exactly the same like it was play back on a video like B use audacity and put

 

00h26m45.000s

00h28m47.000s

 

and only pay attention to the female moans it seems looped like there no uniqueness to the moans

but anyway Im starting to get the feeling that what I find doesnt even matter so i guess ill stop with this detective work

 

Good Luck hope you two work this out

[E050822]

Thank you, Hey. I'm glad you're able to look at it (well, listen to it) objectively. I know previous posts of yours I haven't exactly agreed with, but this last one of yours I definitely agree with. I will have B listen to that segment again and see if he concurs with your thoughts, that it could be a loop of the porno that was playing.

[E050822]

Looks like counseling will be canceled and relationship over...B informed me via text tonight that he'd be on Michigan Avenue all night...a well known prostitute hangout.

[AverageCat]

Sorry girl, but you sound like too smart. Too smart = too good lier.

 

Also the fact that you know so much about the cousin (i.e. he needs time to get ready in the morning.... hmmm). Lastly, it makes the cousin the perfect person for the job. Good looking. Good for a ****. Not good to break up with your bf for.

 

The only thing I'm left wondering about is.... when before have you had the chance to sleep with him. No way this was your first encounter.

[E050822]

No, he isn't my type. If a man appears to require more time to get ready in the morning or for a date night than I do, that's weird to me. Also, I knew about the prostitute thing and his being in and out of prison and no education before I met him. So no, again...not my type. I hold myself to higher standards than getting involved with someone with issues like that.

 

Looks are not everything...there is a lot of physical attraction between my boyfriend and I, and I love that he isn't the male model type. That's just the kind of guy I've always been interested in...if the guy has a better body than me, it tends to not work out too well.

 

I didn't say he did take more time than I do to get ready, I said IF A MAN APPEARS TO take longer than I do to get ready.

[E050822]

You must not have read the original post too carefully, since now you're accusing me of being with M in a totally different way than what B is. So now, IN YOUR EYES, I not only f***ked M, but you also feel that it happened on more than one occurrence.There's no point in my trying to tell you that it never once happened, because you're obviously not listening to reason.

[therhythm]

Looks like counseling will be canceled and relationship over...B informed me via text tonight that he'd be on Michigan Avenue all night...a well known prostitute hangout.

 

Well it looks like he has made his own choice... I am sorry but once the trust is gone (rightfully or not) the relationship is dead.

[E050822]

I'm going to be heartbroken if it really does end this way, because I never once did anything with anyone other than B...tomorrow will have more answers hopefully, as he went out tonight and had waaaaaaaaaayyy too much to drink. But I don't know if, after all of the accusations and mistreatment, if I can or should stay in the relationship. I just don't know if it's fair to continue to put myself through it. I'm conflicted though, because I do love him...just don't know if I can look past all of the accusations every day or every other day.

[drifter777]

G: Come on - this is ridicules. Was this whole thing made up? If it was then all I can say is how wonderfully imaginative you are and what fun we've all had playing CSI's. If it is true then you need to fill in the blanks as in what was the straw that broke the camels back? And, if you guys are really over, did you do it? Would you say on this thread when you know B is going to read it? If not, send me a PM when you know it's over to satisfy my curiosity. No need to fear that's I'd squeal on you or post your PM or anything because you can deny that easily. Way too easy to fake a message and someone as smart as you knows that.

[Just a Guy]

Hi B, G and everyone else. Having read this thread through till the very end I'd like to chip in with a few thoughts. Firstly, it seems very odd to me that B, when he knew of the reputation his cousin had, would set him up in his house when he knew that his girlfriend/ SO would, on occasion be off duty and would be at home while he too, was there. Why would he tempt fate? If he had a devious desire to put his SO and his cousin together just to see if they would fool around as a kind of test of G's fidelity then I think that is quite gratuitous and sneaky. Secondly, if he wanted to use his audio recording system to record any funny goings on why did he let his cousin know in advance about this device when he did not afford his SO the same information? Was he wanting to set a trap for her or set up a situation where the cousin would put on the TV quite loud and also put on some porn on the computer(?) so as to create enough background noise so that a plausible case could be made out against his SO? Had he already tired of her and thought up this method in connivance with his cousin, of getting her to feel guilty and then dumping her? I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case especially after he said that he had an overpowering desire to turn back to check on things but didn't do so.

 

Thirdly, his SO, G, claims to have been sleeping all through the incident as it was ongoing. With the TV blaring and also the porn video on, adding to the din, how is it that she was able to sleep soundly after she had already been woken up by her boyfriend wishing her goodbye? With annoying sounds like that the least that she should have done was to get up and tell the cousin that she was trying to sleep and he should be considerate enough to turn down the TV and the porn video. Unless of course she and the cousin had other ideas! Also, the cousin beating a hasty retreat from the house even though his work had probably not been completed adds to the suspicion that something sneaky had gone on.

 

All in all it seems to me that both parties can be found guilty of misdemeanors depending on which tack one wishes to take. In any case I think B has decided to do what he probably always planned to do and has dumped G. All this exercise was probably so much fluff! I guess the forum users are the real ones who have been taken for a ride, an entertaining but wholly superfluous one. Warm wishes to all!

[Chi townD]

I'm starting to think bunnies are hopping around here.

 

But! on the off chance that this is real, People are forgetting one key factor. The dog. I don't know about anyone else, but I've always been a dog owner. And if M was trying to sneak someone into the house, the dog would have lost his mind. And even if the dog wasn't a barker, the dog would have been stirred up with excitement from the new presence in the house. You would have heard more of the dog in the audio track. But, you don't, which leads me to believe that the dog was comfortable with the people in its surroundings; business as usual. So, it had to have been the people inside the house already.

 

Sorry, but that just how I see it.

[aliveagain]

I don't know why I am responding to this but I agree about the dog. Last week I went to visit friends that have a small dog. The dog has seen me many times but whenever I come to their door he barks, he goes crazy. Not that he's trying to bite me but he's just happy, spins, barks and when you put your hand out he licks you like crazy, but the point is he barks even as I walk up the walkway. There was no knock and there was no doorbell unless the cousin was standing there with the door open waiting for someone to arrive. Still doesn't explain the lack of barking. Who can sleep with the TV turned up that loud, who would turn the TV up that loud unless they new the other person was already up?

[BreatheForABit]

I'm starting to think bunnies are hopping around here.

 

But! on the off chance that this is real, People are forgetting one key factor. The dog. I don't know about anyone else, but I've always been a dog owner. And if M was trying to sneak someone into the house, the dog would have lost his mind. And even if the dog wasn't a barker, the dog would have been stirred up with excitement from the new presence in the house. You would have heard more of the dog in the audio track. But, you don't, which leads me to believe that the dog was comfortable with the people in its surroundings; business as usual. So, it had to have been the people inside the house already.

 

Sorry, but that just how I see it.

 

You're right. The dog is a Chihuahua, and he is very excitable, especially if someone comes over. He whines and jumps and runs around if ANYONE shows up, even people who live here.

 

You do hear him running over and investigating after M has this person walk a short distance in my house and start doing what they were doing. He scampers to the area and doesn't bark or jump or whine at the people who are there. Like you said, business as usual.

 

 

The cousin knew of the audio device from his brother who knew about it from when he helped me move in. I did not tell him about it, but he knew beforehand. That is why M and whoever he is doing things with are trying to be as quiet as possible I'm sure.

 

Yes, there was opportunity before June 5th for G and M to hook-up. This is because G stayed home with kids on her day off and M was about two blocks away working, or supposed to be working. Sure it'd be dastardly to send the kids outside or whatever and then lock bedroom door, but I know M and I know that wouldn't be a problem for him AT ALL. I don't know G as well as M though, so I can't say that she would have done something like that, but it is certainly possible.

 

And yes, this is ALL REAL. Not joking here, it's what it is.

 

For the record, I did not go to see any prostitute on Michigan Ave. I wouldn't subject myself to the risks associated with that ever. M would, and he has, but that's his own problem.

 

G says she needs concrete evidence before she will admit to anything, like I had to have concrete evidence before she remembered that she was on the web with her phone after I left. I guess the audio of M doing something with someone 11 minutes after I left for work, when there were only two people in the house after I left isn't concrete enough.

 

Again, at 27:45 I hear M saying something that sounds like G's name. If there are any audio experts or anyone who wants to try the audacity noise removal, please try it and see if you can make out what M is saying at that moment. At 26:18 there is a good pause of the TV, like M & who he is with were being quiet since something spooked them like I might have came back or something. The pause at 26:18 can be used to take a noise profile and then noise removal.

 

Soon I'll post a smaller audio file with just the time from 26:00 to 29:30 so it will be easier to work with.

 

Adding audio clip...

 

26:00 to 29:30, what is M saying at roughly 1:45 into this clip? I do hear faint conversation on other parts of the original audio posted on first page, but it is too difficult to make out.

 

Again, I am using Audacity and it's noise removal feature to try and clean the audio up a bit. A good noise profile is at 26:18 in the original and roughly 0:18 into the clip I just posted. There are settings that can be played with to try and get better noise removal. Basically you just select the noise profile (i.e. - 0:18 to 0:21 or something) and then click "get noise profile" then select the whole clip and do noise removal after playing with the settings in the pop up window.

Edited July 1, 2013 by BreatheForABit

[therhythm]

You're right. The dog is a Chihuahua, and he is very excitable, especially if someone comes over. He whines and jumps and runs around if ANYONE shows up, even people who live here.

 

You do hear him running over and investigating after M has this person walk a short distance in my house and start doing what they were doing. He scampers to the area and doesn't bark or jump or whine at the people who are there. Like you said, business as usual.

 

 

The cousin knew of the audio device from his brother who knew about it from when he helped me move in. I did not tell him about it, but he knew beforehand. That is why M and whoever he is doing things with are trying to be as quiet as possible I'm sure.

 

Yes, there was opportunity before June 5th for G and M to hook-up. This is because G stayed home with kids on her day off and M was about two blocks away working, or supposed to be working. Sure it'd be dastardly to send the kids outside or whatever and then lock bedroom door, but I know M and I know that wouldn't be a problem for him AT ALL. I don't know G as well as M though, so I can't say that she would have done something like that, but it is certainly possible.

 

And yes, this is ALL REAL. Not joking here, it's what it is.

 

For the record, I did not go to see any prostitute on Michigan Ave. I wouldn't subject myself to the risks associated with that ever. M would, and he has, but that's his own problem.

 

G says she needs concrete evidence before she will admit to anything, like I had to have concrete evidence before she remembered that she was on the web with her phone after I left. I guess the audio of M doing something with someone 11 minutes after I left for work, when there were only two people in the house after I left isn't concrete enough.

 

Again, at 27:45 I hear M saying something that sounds like G's name. If there are any audio experts or anyone who wants to try the audacity noise removal, please try it and see if you can make out what M is saying at that moment. At 26:18 there is a good pause of the TV, like M & who he is with were being quiet since something spooked them like I might have came back or something. The pause at 26:18 can be used to take a noise profile and then noise removal.

 

Soon I'll post a smaller audio file with just the time from 26:00 to 29:30 so it will be easier to work with.

 

Adding audio clip...

 

26:00 to 29:30, what is M saying at roughly 1:45 into this clip? I do hear faint conversation on other parts of the original audio posted on first page, but it is too difficult to make out.

 

Again, I am using Audacity and it's noise removal feature to try and clean the audio up a bit. A good noise profile is at 26:18 in the original and roughly 0:18 into the clip I just posted. There are settings that can be played with to try and get better noise removal. Basically you just select the noise profile (i.e. - 0:18 to 0:21 or something) and then click "get noise profile" then select the whole clip and do noise removal after playing with the settings in the pop up window.

 

Well if this is for real the dog evidence speaks for itself!

[Chi townD]

G says she needs concrete evidence before she will admit to anything, like I had to have concrete evidence before she remembered that she was on the web with her phone after I left. I guess the audio of M doing something with someone 11 minutes after I left for work, when there were only two people in the house after I left isn't concrete enough.

 

 

What?!?! Who says that? Oh yeah! Someone with something to hide. If I were you, I would take her up on that polygraph. BUT!!! I would set it up myself and not use anyone she suggests. I would also stay away from any sexual activity with her until she can produce a clean bill of health from a doctor. That statement in bold (if that's what she said to you) tells me that she IS hiding something.

 

Unfortunately, I can't give you anymore tips or tricks for you to get your "concrete evidence" because she's reading.

[Realist3]

I would say you are a bit over the top for having that device in your house in the first place and then spending the time listening to it. WTF?

 

I don't think it is for security purposes, but trust issues.

[E050822]

He took me up on my offer to take a polygraph test weeks ago...and it was by someone of his choosing...not mine. As for my other offer to be tested by a doctor for any sexually transmitted diseases, I offered that because I know both B and myself are clean in that regard. M on the other hand...probably not. B has told me about the prostitutes M has employed, and he also said he wouldn't be surprised if M had caught something from one of the prostitutes. So, with that being said, if I had done something with M, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that I would end up with an std, too. That's why I offered to go get checked out at a doctors...because I know I have nothing to hide and don't have any diseases that I could possibly pass to B. That's right, to all of those reading this...I said I DON'T HAVE ANY DISEASES BECAUSE I HAVE ONLY BEEN WITH B SINCE THE DAY I MET HIM. Can I be any more clear and concise in that statement?!?!?

[SoulStorm]

He took me up on my offer to take a polygraph test weeks ago...and it was by someone of his choosing...not mine. As for my other offer to be tested by a doctor for any sexually transmitted diseases, I offered that because I know both B and myself are clean in that regard. M on the other hand...probably not. B has told me about the prostitutes M has employed, and he also said he wouldn't be surprised if M had caught something from one of the prostitutes. So, with that being said, if I had done something with M, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that I would end up with an std, too. That's why I offered to go get checked out at a doctors...because I know I have nothing to hide and don't have any diseases that I could possibly pass to B. That's right, to all of those reading this...I said I DON'T HAVE ANY DISEASES BECAUSE I HAVE ONLY BEEN WITH B SINCE THE DAY I MET HIM. Can I be any more clear and concise in that statement?!?!?

Whatever happened their is audio of something going on in the house. The cousin isn't being forthcoming and, even though you passed the poly, it doesn't explain who was there with him.Some other person was there, but who? The tv being up loud is done purposely. There are moans from M. My first speculation is he was masturbating using a lubricant, however he is talking to someone so that went out the window. I am sorry to say that you and he were the only ones (besides the dog) that was there. Unless it's proven otherwise, it was only you..the tv..or the dog he was talking to. I don't believe it was the dog or the tv, but it was someone. Do you have any idea who it was if it wasn't you?

[Realist3]

He took me up on my offer to take a polygraph test weeks ago...and it was by someone of his choosing...not mine. As for my other offer to be tested by a doctor for any sexually transmitted diseases, I offered that because I know both B and myself are clean in that regard. M on the other hand...probably not. B has told me about the prostitutes M has employed, and he also said he wouldn't be surprised if M had caught something from one of the prostitutes. So, with that being said, if I had done something with M, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that I would end up with an std, too. That's why I offered to go get checked out at a doctors...because I know I have nothing to hide and don't have any diseases that I could possibly pass to B. That's right, to all of those reading this...I said I DON'T HAVE ANY DISEASES BECAUSE I HAVE ONLY BEEN WITH B SINCE THE DAY I MET HIM. Can I be any more clear and concise in that statement?!?!?

 

I know you love him, but you are with a seriously jealous person. Over time this will be overbearing and damage the relationship beyond repair. He won't change. Get out while you can.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Realist3

[E050822]

No, I've no idea who it could have been. B and I have been hashing and rehashing this for weeks, trying to piece it all together so that it makes sense. It would be helpful if M would just come forward and tell us what the situation was, so that we can finally put this thing to rest! It has caused way too much stress, depression, and fights between my boyfriend and I, and has caused us to seek professional counseling. We love each other and want to work through this, but without M's side of things, all we can do is guess what may have happened.

 

My best guess is that it was someone that the dog was semi familiar with...he gets all excited when I come home and is barking, playful, jumping around, etc...however, whoever this person was only caused the dog to come over to them like Hey, what's going on? He didn't get excited or bark or anything. So I'm thinking if it was someone that the dog had seen somewhat recently, maybe he recognized them but didn't really care who they were.

[SoulStorm]

No, I've no idea who it could have been. B and I have been hashing and rehashing this for weeks, trying to piece it all together so that it makes sense. It would be helpful if M would just come forward and tell us what the situation was, so that we can finally put this thing to rest! It has caused way too much stress, depression, and fights between my boyfriend and I, and has caused us to seek professional counseling. We love each other and want to work through this, but without M's side of things, all we can do is guess what may have happened.

 

My best guess is that it was someone that the dog was semi familiar with...he gets all excited when I come home and is barking, playful, jumping around, etc...however, whoever this person was only caused the dog to come over to them like Hey, what's going on? He didn't get excited or bark or anything. So I'm thinking if it was someone that the dog had seen somewhat recently, maybe he recognized them but didn't really care who they were.

What would you think if it was reversed? Your female cousin is heard moaning in the house and no one there but your boyfriend and your dog?

What would you think?

[E050822]

He may be jealous at times, but the heart wants what the heart wants. And this heart wants his heart.

[E050822]

B asked me that same question earlier tonight. Honestly, I don't know what I would do if the situation was reversed. I do know one thing for certain though...if I had a female cousin who was untrustworthy, I would not let her sleep on my couch, knowing that she would be left alone with my boyfriend the next day while I went to work. I would find.other sleeping arrangements for her.

[aliveagain]

Why don't you tell your cousin he has 3 days to tell you the truth or you will send copies of the tape to his family for their opinion. I still can't understand the point of turning up the volume that loud when she claims to be sleeping in the next room, it's not his house, what kind of guest does that in someone else's house? Who would sneak someone into the house then bang them in the living room rather than in a private place like a bathroom with the water running, wouldn't they be afraid of discovery? Get the family involved, your cousin is protecting someone. He is definitely slapping someone's ass while moaning. If he refuses to come clean he may be responsible for your inevitable break up, write him out of your life and tell him you are doing so.

[SoulStorm]

B asked me that same question earlier tonight. Honestly, I don't know what I would do if the situation was reversed. I do know one thing for certain though...if I had a female cousin who was untrustworthy, I would not let her sleep on my couch, knowing that she would be left alone with my boyfriend the next day while I went to work. I would find.other sleeping arrangements for her.

You have to admit that it doesn't look good for you at all. There is nothing concrete saying that it wasn't you.