Salacious details within – Sex, Lies, and Audiotape! Did she cheat? Opinion needed!

[Trimmer]

I suggest you buy Ambient noise reduction headphones if you dont know what they look like google it I have those and I put the volume way up which allowed me to hear to other mans voice and the door close 15:03...

Aargh - noise reduction headphones do NOT reduce the noise on a recording, they reduce ambient noise - i.e. the noise in the environment around you at the time you are listening to it. So it might reduce the sound of YOUR refrigerator next to your computer in the kitchen while you are trying to figure all this out, but it will not reduce the noise of the fan in the recording, or the deterministic interference of the television in the recording.

 

Here is what I picked up.

18:45 woman sighs

19:28 him....just cut it

22:39 woman, put your hands inside(maybe movie)

27:09-2713 woman, ah ah aaaaa orgasm

27:26 small child, mommy, sound goes off until 27:36 as if someone is listening

28:20 sound of slap

28:21 woman, orgasm sound oh, oh, oh man another slap

28:37 small child, mommy I don't wanna go.....something

28:45 woman long sigh

29:10 woman, oh my God thank you, not same voice as tv

Did you happen to notice that the 27:09 and 28:21 "orgasms" have exactly the same vocal pattern? And they come at exactly the same point relative to the cat food commercial (or whatever it is) repeating in the background , about 1:10 apart?

 

And the two 'small child "mommy...." sounds' are the same ones, also coming 1:10 one after the other, just like the "orgasms." Somebody pressed "back" on the DVR to repeat a part of the program or something, and a lot of what you're imagining in this section - the "mommy", the "oh oh oh" orgasms, are clearly a part of the TV audio, as they repeat along with the rest of the program material.

 

Maybe he's not into men OR women; I think "M" was jerking off to a cat food commercial.

 

 

It's part of the movie preview for "Identity Thief". The identity thief in the movie says "You should put your hazards on" right before a semi crashes into the victims rental car.

Actually, she says it just after the semi crashes into the rental car. Funnier joke that way.

 

So you don't recognize the whispering voice?

You asked this after the OP already explained it.

 

22:39 woman, put your hands inside(maybe movie)

 

No movie. OP: can't you recognize the voice? It' breath-y audible but I would think you would know if it's G.

Pretty sure it's Melissa McCarthy. And by pretty sure, I mean completely sure. Go to YouTube, watch the trailer for Identity Theft. Around 2:05 in that trailer, listen to Melissa McCarthy say, in a whispery voice, "oh, you shoulda putcher hazards on...". Then go back and listen to the OP's recording, starting from 22:18 and you can hear Jason Bateman (from earlier in the trailer) talking about the drivers license with "my name, Sandy Bigelow Patterson" on it, the rental car with no scratches, the sound of the semi crash, and then the "shoulda put your hazards on..." line. Yes movie.

 

So now we've got female orgasms that aren't a real person in the room. And we've got a woman whispering "put your hands on my ass" which wasn't a real woman in the room.

 

I can't discount ALL of it, but I'll call BS when I see it. At least some amount of this damning evidence is wishful/biased thinking, tossed together with some Emperor's New Clothes on the part of all the rest of us apes here, gathered around, beating the wildebeast to death with an old dried bone. (Extra points for the correct movie reference; first correct response only...)

 

I sitll like the "jerking off to a cat food commercial" explanation.

 

I guess you can also remove background sounds using some process called Center Pan Remover. I've no idea how that works though.

It requires that you have a stereo recording, in which desired sounds (like music) are distributed differently between the two channels, and sounds to be removed (like vocals) are "panned to center", i.e. equally represented in both channels. If you invert one channel and subtract it from the other, it tends to remove the "center-panned" elements, but to keep the other stuff, although depending on the exact material, it can distort it, create frequency notches, etc. People sometimes attempt to make karaoke tracks (backing music only) by removing vocals from standard recordings this way, and it can work to a degree, but it depends on how the elements of the recording were "placed" in the stereo image.

 

Note that probably none of that will apply to your recording, if it is even stereo in the first place, as there is no difference between the nature of the stereo images of the sounds you are imagining you are trying to enhance (orgasms and grunts and blowjob slurping) and the stuff you are trying to remove (ambient noise, TV sounds, etc.) In spite of watching lots of 24 - "You're going to want to zoom in and enhance..." - I think the enhancement you are trying to do is not so easy, and the results will not be as clean and conclusive as you might hope.

 

Although I'm sure the bill for services will be quite real.

 

To G:

My opinion is that your relationship is over, or at least deeply and probably permanently damaged, and interestingly, you are actually the only one who will ever be 100% sure "by whom".

 

If you did this deed with "M", then you have created this whole swirling mess, and your denials are only adding to the damage. In this scenario, it is unlikely that either continued denials or confession will ever lead to healing.

 

If you did NOT do the deed, then by definition, all of the "evidence" that your boyfriend is basing his suspicion upon is false and imaginary. He has never believed "M", so it won't actually matter if "M" comes clean - independent of "M", your BF has already got his explanation. He will likely see any halfway plausible explanation as a lie - a further coverup. Look what happens when you offer your explanations to folks on this thread: if you were defensive, they'd say "oh, that's a sign of guilt!" But in fact, you've been relatively rational and intelligent in your responses, so they say "oh, sure, that's what a smart liar would say..."

 

Your BF isn't inclined to believe you - he obviously agreed to the polygraph path, but as soon as the results didn't bear out his expectation, he decided, well, polygraphs are unreliable, right? What if "M" comes up with some plausable explanation? Well, we already knew he wasn't any more reliable than a polygraph, right?

 

And, this is a guy who had a recording device in the house that you and he and your children all share, which he didn't think important for you to know about. Can you say "trust issues"? So in this scenario, if you didn't do the deed with "M", and your bf has whipped up this whole thing out of some imagined noisy slurping sounds and his own trust issues, and he is more inclined to stay with his incorrect interpretations of imaginary evidence, then what does that imply for the future of your relationship with him?

 

If you did it, then he's put the true story together, and you're being inhumane with your denials, and you've damaged him and tanked the relationship.

 

If you didn't do it, then he's revealed a fantastic ability to fabricate something from nothing, and could there every be anything that could heal this wound in the relationship and reestablish his trust in you - the kind of trust that you want from a life partner? And in that case he tanked the relationship.

 

And only you know which one it is.

 

But it seems you're damned if you did it, and damned if you didn't. Is there any other scenario? Any other way out of here?

Edited July 2, 2013 by Trimmer

[drifter777]

Yeah, I missed the response regarding the voice being Melissa McCarthy but saw it on further review.

[Coil]

Get your dog checked out ASAP for these STD's you speak of. I think your cousin might be into beastiality.

 

Case closed...................

 

 

 

But seriously I have only read the posts here and not listened to the audio, as I do not have a good setup. This is a messed up situation for sure.

 

 

 

One thought though. You said that in early June she stayed home with the kids and he was "working down the street"... are any of these kids old enough / capable of letting you know if your "cousin" was hanging out around the house that day or anything suspicious like them going behind closed doors together?

Edited July 2, 2013 by Coil

[E050822]

Dear whoever gave B the spy tactic ideas:

 

Maybe before you go off spouting ideas about how to spy on me without me knowing about it, you should think a little more. We are all adults here, are we not? That being said, most of us have grown up jobs, not some fly by night job that is only a paycheck and nothing more. I, personally, am a bank employee. I come into contact with confidential information on a daily basis. How would you feel if you were sharing delicate information such as account numbers or social security numbers with a bank employee and come to find out that the employee had a recording device on her person? Would that make you feel secure with the bank you chose to use?

 

I told B when I found his little recording device, which had been recording everyone I work with all day long, that I'm NOT HAPPY about this stunt, at all. If he wants to secretly record me on my day off, fine by me. I've nothing to hide. But to put my job on the line? That was wrong.

[Coil]

I don't really want to point fingers either way, but the true key is your cousin. Hell, I'd almost be willing to call him and try to get his side of the story for you myself LOL.

[aliveagain]

Get your dog checked out ASAP for these STD's you speak of. I think your cousin might be into beastiality.

 

 

Coil,

Please, they have a Chihuahua, your post has left me with some very disturbing imagery, besides you can't hear any yelp's or yips on the audio, Chihuahua's don't moan. They don't slap well either which is heard several times on the recording. The big, big item to remember, "she passed a polygraph." What questions were you asked? Did you ask if she was telling the truth about being asleep?

[E050822]

I was asked a series of 10 questions during the polygraph. Most of them were not relevant to the case at hand, but 3 questions were asked that were relevant and were sent to us in the examiner's report. Here are the questions, along with my answers:

 

1. Since November 30, 2012 have you had sexual contact with anyone other than B?

My answer was No.

 

2. Since November 30, 2012 have you had sexual contact with anyone other than B, and hidden that contact from him?

My answer was No.

 

3. Are you telling me any deliberate lies or omissions about your actions the morning of June 5, 2013?

My answer was No.

 

 

 

Report: "It is the opinion of the undersigned examiner based on the examination given that this subject is being truthful regarding this issue."

 

(this was taken as a direct quote from the report the polygraph examiner sent us in the mail).

[pteromom]

I was asked a series of 10 questions during the polygraph. Most of them were not relevant to the case at hand, but 3 questions were asked that were relevant and were sent to us in the examiner's report. Here are the questions, along with my answers:

 

1. Since November 30, 2012 have you had sexual contact with anyone other than B?

My answer was No.

 

2. Since November 30, 2012 have you had sexual contact with anyone other than B, and hidden that contact from him?

My answer was No.

 

3. Are you telling me any deliberate lies or omissions about your actions the morning of June 5, 2013?

My answer was No.

 

 

 

Report: "It is the opinion of the undersigned examiner based on the examination given that this subject is being truthful regarding this issue."

 

(this was taken as a direct quote from the report the polygraph examiner sent us in the mail).

 

OMG. I can't believe you even agreed to doing this!

 

After reading Trimmer's post, I am convinced that the cousin wasn't sleeping with anyone, but was just watching tv.

 

This whole thing is ridiculous, and G, if you are OK with a bf who secretly records you - TWICE! - and makes you submit to a polygraph, well, then... you guys deserve each other. Have some dignity, man.

[2sure]

It's strange that someone would install audio recording for security purposes and not video , or both. So he recorded you wanting to record you. He recorded you at work? In a bank?

[aliveagain]

You passed a polygraph, you posted the questions that you were asked, the polygraph administrator concurs that the truth was told. So you haven't had sex with anyone since meeting B, you haven't had sexual contact and hidden that from B and you are not lying or intentionally omitting anything about that morning from B. I think you have gone above and beyond what was required of you to prove your innocence. I believe you are telling the truth and if B can't accept that than he needs counseling because he is pushing you away and will without doubt loose you. B needs to take responsibility for leaving you alone with a known predator, his cousin. He could have come back but didn't. I think the dog didn't bark because no one came into your home. I think he walked to your bedroom door to listen and hear if you were up or asleep. I also think he most likely masturbated to porn previews, that's the noise you heard, him moaning as he did himself. That's why he is too ashamed to come forward and tell you the truth. Time to put this to rest, she didn't cheat, you have a good woman please don't blow it "B."

 

Just wanted to add, the "come over here" I think he is talking to your dog.

Edited July 3, 2013 by aliveagain
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[SoulStorm]

I believe you. I think it just picked up the cousin doing something sexual. probably with himself.

[E050822]

Yes, 2Sure. Apparently someone in this forum, most likely via a private message, gave him the brilliant idea to put me under further surveillance, while I was at work. In a bank...where it is illegal to have cameras (such as camera phones or digital cameras, not like what the bank uses for it's own surveillance) or recording devices. He told me that he got the idea from someone on here and put the device into the zippered pocket inside my purse early this morning while I was getting ready for work.

 

The only reason I stumbled across the stupid thing was because the wind was blowing when I walked to my car after work, and I heard a weird feedback noise coming from my purse. So I sat in my car and cleaned out pretty much all of my purse in search of what was making the noise.

[E050822]

I just wanted to say thank you to the ones who are seeing my side as being what it is...the truth. And yes, I agree about me going above and beyond to try to prove my innocence. I shouldn't have had to take a polygraph test (which, I admit, was my idea to begin with), and I shouldn't have to tell him a million plus times that I wasn't involved in this whole mess. As it stands now, we have been going over this BS drama for over two hours now, and he is telling me that he feels that he needs to break things off...even after promising me that we would work thru it and stay together.

[E050822]

...not to mention going to multiple jewelry stores to look at possibilities for a promise or engagement ring less than a week ago. So we've gone from looking at rings, to him telling me that he was starting to believe that I've been telling him the truth, and now it's back to the drawing board and trying to figure out what could be a possible explanation for this BS. I wish he either had video as well as audio, or had come back home when he got that bad feeling that morning. Maybe then he would realize that I'm not a cheater. Maybe.

[BreatheForABit]

26:00 to 29:30, what is M saying at roughly 1:45 into this clip? I do hear faint conversation on other parts of the original audio posted on first page, but it is too difficult to make out.

 

Again, I am using Audacity and it's noise removal feature to try and clean the audio up a bit. A good noise profile is at 26:18 in the original and roughly 0:18 into the clip I just posted. There are settings that can be played with to try and get better noise removal. Basically you just select the noise profile (i.e. - 0:18 to 0:21 or something) and then click "get noise profile" then select the whole clip and do noise removal after playing with the settings in the pop up window.

 

Anyone try this? G says that M is not even speaking in this section of audio. I clearly know that it is his voice, can anyone verify that it is, in fact, M speaking in the above section? Because if it is not M speaking there, then I guess I need a nearing aid!

[aliveagain]

Listen friend if you doubt the fact that she scored 100% on the polygraph and it is conclusive that she is being 100% truthful, you need more than a hearing aid. Stop this now, why are you self destructing? You continue to reject the opinion of a polygraph expert, why? Is this just an excuse to end your relationship? Something is wrong your actions don't make sense.

[Trimmer]

Yes, 2Sure. Apparently someone in this forum, most likely via a private message, gave him the brilliant idea to put me under further surveillance, while I was at work. In a bank...where it is illegal to have cameras (such as camera phones or digital cameras, not like what the bank uses for it's own surveillance) or recording devices. He told me that he got the idea from someone on here and put the device into the zippered pocket inside my purse early this morning while I was getting ready for work.

 

The only reason I stumbled across the stupid thing was because the wind was blowing when I walked to my car after work, and I heard a weird feedback noise coming from my purse. So I sat in my car and cleaned out pretty much all of my purse in search of what was making the noise.

OP, did you do this? This is off the rails...

 

G: You've got a boyfriend who could have put your job at risk over this situation. That real, adult job you were talking about that's important to you. That's messed up. At best, it was a stupid, immature move. I don't want to think of what it might have been at worst.

 

This is not goof-around time, kids. This was a pretty serious act, that could have put you into a heap of trouble, and/or could also put him in that same heap.

 

Odd how the tables may have turned, but I think you may want to consider now whether you can trust him any more. You may also want to check into the laws in your state about recording, if nothing else, out of interest to educate yourself about whether a crime may have technically been committed. It may fall on him actually, since he's the one with the knowledge and the intent in the whole situation, and you were just an unaware "mule".

 

Seriously messed up.

[CarrieT]

Yes, 2Sure. Apparently someone in this forum, most likely via a private message, gave him the brilliant idea to put me under further surveillance, while I was at work.

 

For starters, you have to be a member here for a least a month before you get PM privileges, so that statement is false.

 

...not to mention going to multiple jewelry stores to look at possibilities for a promise or engagement ring less than a week ago. So we've gone from looking at rings, to him telling me that he was starting to believe that I've been telling him the truth, and now it's back to the drawing board and trying to figure out what could be a possible explanation for this BS. I wish he either had video as well as audio, or had come back home when he got that bad feeling that morning. Maybe then he would realize that I'm not a cheater. Maybe.

The next question would be, if he is monitoring and recording you, why would YOU even want to look at rings with someone that has this level of distrust for you?

 

Sounds like you would be better off without him.

[drifter777]

For starters, you have to be a member here for a least a month before you get PM privileges, so that statement is false

Not true. You "earn" PM rights with some magic combination of posts and days of membership. Click on his user id and see that you have the option to send a PM. Try B's and you do not see that option - at least at this time. She will probably have PM privileges within the next day or so.

[E050822]

I'm pretty sure that he read that wikipedia article, too...after paying over $500 for polygraph exam. Regardless of how accurate they are, one thing I know is that I shouldn't have had to submit to a polygraph exam.Doesn't exactly give a person a warm and fuzzy feeling when they have to go to such lengths to try to show someone that they didn't do something.

[BreatheForABit]

I am sorry for the recording device suggestion that I followed up on, I was told that most cheaters discuss it when they are away at work or in their car and to do that I may finally learn the truth if G and M were in communication to coordinate their stories. I truly am sorry and will not do that again and I do realize it was not called for at all.

 

So it seems we are at an impasse here. G proclaims she did not do anything and that there MUST have been someone else who snuck into the house within the 11 minutes after I left that morning. We’ve already agreed (G and I and several others here and elsewhere) that it was CERTAINLY M and ANOTHER PERSON doing things that morning. So him just watching a porno or doing the dog (which is absurd really) are out of the question. I want to know WHO that person is, and I have the sinking feeling that it was in fact, G. Who else could it be really? Do you hear anyone knock or walk in on the creaky floor or the dog get excited during those 11 minutes prior? I know I don’t. So

 

I have two options basically…

 

1) Pretend to believe the unbelievable and go forward with the knowledge that G, in the most probable and likely scenario, did have relations with M that morning. Then it will just be a matter of time before we break up because I will always feel this way and it hurts the most that she would insult my intelligence so as to think I would believe that some mysterious person snuck into the house within that 11 minutes when the audio evidence most clearly shows that did not happen. That is an option, but also a very miserable one.

 

2) Trust my judgment (and others as well) and stand firm that she did have relations with M that morning and move on with an admission and apology from G or else break up, hopefully amicably, if she doesn’t start being truthful.

 

What does the forum community suggest, aside from the recording thing yesterday, what option would you choose only considering the audio and other evidence?

Edited July 3, 2013 by BreatheForABit

[drifter777]

OP: regardless of what some posters say, someone got a BJ in your home that morning. All circumstantial evidence points to G being the giver of said BJ. In my mind the most incriminating evidence is:

 

1) lack of dog excitedly "greeting" someone at the door. I've had dogs all my life and never had one who didn't go wild when anyone came to the door - even family who would just walked in without knocking.

 

2) the fact that your cousin is unwilling to be forthcoming about who gave him the hummer that morning. It makes no sense to me why he would allow G to be crucified if he knows she is innocent.

 

3) complete lack of mitigating evidence. There is nothing either tangible or circumstantial that supports G's account of the events. It's not reasonable to accept her denial without her ability to point to a single, concrete piece of evidence in her favor.

 

If you are springing for the professional sound analysis then I would wait for it and make my decision only if this clears up who was blowing M that morning. Short of that I think you have outlined the two choices you can live with. Even if G confesses now and begs for another chance, the damage beyond the actual sexual act has destroyed any chance for reconciliation. Since both of the choices you outline end with you breaking it off, why put yourself (and her) through any more drama? End it now and move on with your life.

[clia]

This thread cannot be for real.

 

BreatheForaBit -- if you have this level of distrust (which is truly alarming) in your girlfriend, you should not be together. Truly, the lengths you have gone to to try to prove that she cheated on you (a lie detector test!) is unbelievable. You sound paranoid. You will never believe her no matter what happens now. Your relationship is irreparably broken, due to your actions. Not hers -- yours.

 

E050822 -- dump this loser.

[CarrieT]

breatheforabit -- if you have this level of distrust (which is truly alarming) in your girlfriend, you should not be together. Truly, the lengths you have gone to to try to prove that she cheated on you (a lie detector test!) is unbelievable. You sound paranoid. You will never believe her no matter what happens now. Your relationship is irreparably broken, due to your actions. Not hers -- yours.

 

E050822 -- dump this loser.

^^^^^ this, this - a thousand times, this! ^^^^

[reardear]

To me, the audio is not really concrete proof of anything happening. Of course something of sexual nature occurred, but we don't know for sure if it was only M masturbating or if there was more. The "slurping" didn't sound like slurping to me. It sounded more like sex, but I couldn't listen to the audio without background noise.

 

We also know someone else was there and that M spoke to someone - that other person, himself, or... perhaps he chatting through a webcam?