Salacious details within – Sex, Lies, and Audiotape! Did she cheat? Opinion needed!

[E050822]

Girl you sound guiltyyyyy.

 

The whole fact that you're going through such a long range of hypothesis to prove you innocent... I'ts like you're trying to make another story up.

 

But the story is that one. You cheated. You got caught. You don't wanna admit being wrong cuz you have a huge ego....

 

If you hadn't cheated. You would have been like WTF. I didn't do it and that's it. Take it or leave it. You wouldn't have even tried to "interpret" the audio, cuz your consciousness would have been clean and you would have had NOTHING to prove.

 

Get outta here and out of the poor man's life.

 

And no, this was not your first time ****ing him, given that you did without any talking or convo...... I bet it must have happened at least 2-3 other times.

 

Edit: Oh and before I forget. Was it turning you on, that you were ****ing this good looking low life in your husbands house?

 

Edit2: Oh and the fact that you're fat makes everything clearer. You probably never had a good looking guy in you. That's why the crave.

 

 

Wow, you're just full of insults, aren't you? That's REAL adult like behavior. And for the record, I was like WTF when he first blasted me with the accusation. And the reason I've been trying to go over the audio with him is because I was trying to help him come up with possibilities, since M was so unwilling to tell him who he'd had in the house...or if he hadn't, and was just pleasuring himself, why wouldn't he tell B what we need to know to clear this up. M knows it wasn't me, and I know it wasn't me. If he would stop running away from the situation because he's embarrassed that he got caught jerking off to porn in someone else's home, we could all put this to rest.

 

If all you're going to do is sling insults, you should probably keep your comments to yourself.

[beach]

I don't think he was j/o to porn.

 

There is a woman's voice at different times. And sounds of possible spanking.

 

You seem to want to offer lots of possibilities.

 

He doesn't trust you. Why stay with any guy when there's no trust in the R?

 

Good god - your guy records every move you make.

 

That is beyond a terrible way to live.

 

It would have taken me 2 seconds to leave!!! I'd be saying are you F - ing kidding me? I'm outta here?

 

Does he pay any of your living expenses?

[BreatheForABit]

If he would stop running away from the situation because he's embarrassed that he got caught jerking off to porn in someone else's home, we could all put this to rest.

 

Both G and I, and a few people who have listened here and elsewhere, have all agreed that it is SEX going on WITH ANOTHER PERSON, initiated ten minutes after I leave. Yes, there was a porno on in the background for part of the sex, but the most noticeable BJ parts occur during REGULAR shows, not pornos. For example, look at 19:03 into the first audio recording. Someone gags, obviously, then M instructs her to "breathe for a bit" and to "move up a bit". Anyone, please explain how these sounds are from a porno when it was REGULAR TV on during the time...

 

Further postulation that it's just M beating off is pure rubbish, everyone can listen to the audio and make their own determination. Question for anyone willing to listen and respond...

 

Was M...

 

1) Watching a porno and jacking off?

 

OR

 

2) Having sex with another person?

 

 

I know it was 2.

[beach]

Sex. And at one point toward the end a woman's voice is instructing him to put his hands up higher. Or that's what I thought I heard.

 

And the breathing you referred to seems like the usual rhythm you might hear with penetration during sex.

 

Cars can be heard driving by - why wouldn't a person entering the home be noticeable?

 

It was planned. He definitely took care of all his basic needs before getting started. Coffee, peeing, pooping, washing up. Something was planned and he was ready.

[beach]

Is there a way to forward the audio?

 

I'm not about to listen to all that crap again.

[E050822]

I don't think he was j/o to porn.

 

There is a woman's voice at different times. And sounds of possible spanking.

 

You seem to want to offer lots of possibilities.

 

He doesn't trust you. Why stay with any guy when there's no trust in the R?

 

Good god - your guy records every move you make.

 

That is beyond a terrible way to live.

 

It would have taken me 2 seconds to leave!!! I'd be saying are you F - ing kidding me? I'm outta here?

 

Does he pay any of your living expenses?

 

 

If you listen to a certain part of it (I think it was in the first 30 minutes, toward the end), I'm pretty sure he was j/o to porn. HBO Cathouse was on on demand, and he was playing part of it back while he was moaning loudly.

 

I stay because love him, simple as that. We are working on the trust issues and communication issues with a counselor that we've recently started working with.

[beach]

I got it to advance - at about 19:28ish he says something "I gotta get some color" then a woman's voice says possibly "im sucking off right now - why is she _______ ???..."

 

The woman's voice is very obvious at this point. Voice inflection is noticeable too.

 

You didn't answer the question. Does your bf pay any of your expenses?

[beach]

It could be any neighbor that watches and knew when you were leaving.

 

Some bodies phone rang a few times. Who's ringtone is that?

[beach]

At 29:10 she says "oh my god___ and then something else" I can't tell what she said at the end.

[E050822]

You didn't answer the question. Does your bf pay any of your expenses?

 

Sorry, I was more focused on the other questions and forgot about that one! We share the living expenses and grocery costs.

[E050822]

It could be any neighbor that watches and knew when you were leaving.

 

Some bodies phone rang a few times. Who's ringtone is that?

 

 

That's one of the possibilities I thought of, too...a neighbor that the dog is semi familiar with and wouldn't go crazy barking when the person came in. But as far as I can tell, the front door never opens. I thought I picked up on the side door opening, but that doesn't answer how they exited the house, or the lack of footsteps on the stairs.

 

I didn't hear a ringtone, but more like keypad tones. At first I didn't think M had keypad tones turned on on his phone, but B said for sure that's what it is.

[E050822]

At 29:10 she says "oh my god___ and then something else" I can't tell what she said at the end.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the "oh my God" was something from within the porno he had on...at one point in it the actresses were talking and I think I heard one of them say it in there.

[beach]

It sounds like he whispers "Debra" - is that your name?

[E050822]

It sounds like he whispers "Debra" - is that your name?

 

No, Debra isn't my name.

[beach]

Do you know a Debra?

[beach]

I'd be very concerned if the man that said he loved me - invited a person like this guy - to come stay at the house knowing full well he was putting my safety at risk! Especially by leaving me alone with such a creepy dude!

 

I wish you had a sense of what love should look like - what this OP is offering you is not loving behavior.

 

Especially since he seems controlling and the type to micromanage on top of all the other short comings.

[E050822]

Do you know a Debra?

 

 

I know of several women named Debra...but none of them live anywhere near us and are much, much older than M. I can recall one night when he was helping us with some painting at the house, and asked me if I had any friends that were single. I told him about someone I work with, who's about 12 years older than I am, and he said he liked them younger...like 7 or 8 years younger than he is. So none of the Debra's I know fit into that category, or live close enough to be in the area that early Kb the morning.

[E050822]

I'd be very concerned if the man that said he loved me - invited a person like this guy - to come stay at the house knowing full well he was putting my safety at risk! Especially by leaving me alone with such a creepy dude!

 

I wish you had a sense of what love should look like - what this OP is offering you is not loving behavior.

 

Especially since he seems controlling and the type to micromanage on top of all the other short comings.

 

I can't say that I've had the best relationships on record...I was married to someone that was verbally and emotionally abusive toward me, and not many of my other relationships before or after my marriage were anything to write home about, really. This one, however, while it does have it's ups and downs, is probably the most love I've felt from anyone (besides my children). I don't like the idea of the audio in the house, but it

isn't so much because he wanted to know what was.going on in the house at all times when I was at home, but because the area we live in is not the best. Nor do I like the idea that he had to record me at work...I made that very clear as soon as I'd found out. But as messed up as some people think our relationship is, we love each other very much. My hope is that we can indeed get to the bottom of this mess and move forward with building our future.

[BreatheForABit]

It was planned. He definitely took care of all his basic needs before getting started. Coffee, peeing, pooping, washing up. Something was planned and he was ready.

 

I am beginning to think it was planned in advance as well. Obviously M told whoever he is doing that there was a recording device active in the house, which is why they make every effort to be as quiet as possible and that is why he blares The Game of Thrones in the second 30:19 recording. There was another day that G was at home with the kids (she has two and I have one) where M was very nearby, supposed to be working. M does visit throughout the day and I didn't question much about that day because I thought that G wouldn't be as crass as to do anything with M while the kids were there! But it could have happened that G just told the kids to go to a friends house for an hour or something. Also, M could have just told her and planned the next day off while they were out in the yard or something. But I didn't scrutinize that day's recordings much because I assumed that G wouldn't do anything like that with the kids around.

 

 

Sex. And at one point toward the end a woman's voice is instructing him to put his hands up higher. Or that's what I thought I heard.

 

It was sex between M and another person, that much is FOR SURE and agreed upon nearly unanimously, except for M of course, he doesn't even admit it was him in the recording!

 

The "put hands up higher" thing has actually been discussed earlier in this thread I think. A couple people verified that part was from the TV. Do you have a specific time into the audio where you hear this, was it near 22:39 into the first audio?

 

 

 

And the breathing you referred to seems like the usual rhythm you might hear with penetration during sex.

 

Cars can be heard driving by - why wouldn't a person entering the home be noticeable?

 

Because no one else entered the house that morning, within 10 minutes after I leave? I don't know, maybe there are people who can float, or maybe someone crawled slowly from the side door to the area near our bedroom door, or maybe this person jumped through the window of our bedroom and then quietly walked to near our bedroom door? But those are all pretty outlandish to even consider, but G has postulated them! What do you think? Was it someone who would come over at 7:23AM and float, crawl or go through the window? Or was it really G, the simplest, most likely explanation?

 

 

Does he pay any of your living expenses?

 

We go half on everything, but she does have one more kid than I and the rent/bills at her previous place were about 30% or more higher than what we have here.

 

 

It could be any neighbor that watches and knew when you were leaving.

 

Some bodies phone rang a few times. Who's ringtone is that?

 

There is no one else who enters the house during that 10 or 11 minutes after I leave. It would have been picked up on the audio. The dog get's excited when ANYONE arrives, not just strangers. If it was a stranger he would have been barking from the time the person even approached the house or opened the gate, especially the door.

 

The phone ringing surprises M and he mutes the TV and doesn't answer. The keypad noises are M's phone too, it is heard in a much later part of the day (not uploaded) when he returns from the other house for whatever reason. I've heard these key tones when he uses his phone before as well. He is pressing these key tones right after he invites the person to "walk over here". I believe he took a seat in the office and began texting, or looking at texts or missed calls, etc. The chair in the office is a quite comfortable, low seated leather chair.

 

 

It sounds like he whispers "Debra" - is that your name?

 

At what time during the first audio do you hear this? I think it may be the movie preview for "Identity Thief" again.

[beach]

He records you at work too?

[beach]

And don't think men won't do older. When they want sex they do any age.

 

When they want to date they choose their primary preference.

 

But somebody stopping by for quick sex - that could be any age.

[BreatheForABit]

It was planned. He definitely took care of all his basic needs before getting started. Coffee, peeing, pooping, washing up. Something was planned and he was ready.

 

Also, a couple days ago, I asked G many times if M had returned to my house and talked with her at anytime during that day when she was home with the kids (before this audio from the day in question). At first she avoided the question, but then I asked again and she said "maybe, I don't remember, I'd have to know the exact day". Eventually G did say that M returned that day and they did talk to each other, of course. So it could have been then that the plan was made and the beans spilled by M to G about the audio recording device in the house.

[E050822]

He records you at work too?

 

You must not have seen that post...it was a few pages.back, I think. Someone from this forum sent him a message with some ideas on how to further investigate

Nether or not I "did the deed" with his cousin. They told him, apparently, that he should hide a recording device in my purse...he did so the other day. The only way I found out about it was because the wind was blowing a little but as I walked to my car after my shift, and I heard some weird feedback noise coming from my purse. Took me almost 10 minutes to find the damn thing, and I was pissed. I work for a bank, and come in contact with personal information on a daily basis...if it had been picked up on the recording device and someone at work found out about it, I would be immediately terminated and possibly face jail time. I'm thankful no one at work found the device, or heard it from inside my purse.

[beach]

You don't trust her.

 

There is no basis or foundation for your relationship. It's not possible without trust.

 

Quit the R while you are behind.

 

You INVITED a complete douche into your home! YOU put her safety at risk! THAT is the furthest thing from loving behavior.

[E050822]

Whether, not nether!