Author Seductive Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 But where has that come from? White people haven't done anything to Indians to make them believe they dislike them. African-Americans/Africans have been treated way worse by white people historically speaking but I don't see them making these type of threads. I had white boys tell me "Go back to your goddamn country. We don't want you here". They also used to make fun of my long hair, and threatened to chop it off and burn it. Sorry, I'm not interested in having short hair. If you were in my shoes, wouldn't you start thinking that white people didn't like you? Why would they make those comments if they liked Indian people? Link to post Share on other sites
Better Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I am very attracted to Indian women and I am a caucasian man. I spent some time living in India and really came to love the people and culture and would be happy to date an Indian woman now that I am back home in the US. There are definitely some cultural issues that need to be overcome, more so that a lot of multicultural relationships. However, the right relationship is always worth that kind of work! Link to post Share on other sites
Better Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I had white boys tell me "Go back to your goddamn country. We don't want you here". They also used to make fun of my long hair, and threatened to chop it off and burn it. Sorry, I'm not interested in having short hair. If you were in my shoes, wouldn't you start thinking that white people didn't like you? Why would they make those comments if they liked Indian people? That's really very sad, but unfortunately you find racist idiots everywhere. It sounds like you live in a place where there isn't much cultural diversity. Hopefully you will have the opportunity to get outside of that area and find a place where people are more accepting of your unique qualities and talents, rather than judging you based on your skin color. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 I am very attracted to Indian women and I am a caucasian man. I spent some time living in India and really came to love the people and culture and would be happy to date an Indian woman now that I am back home in the US. There are definitely some cultural issues that need to be overcome, more so that a lot of multicultural relationships. However, the right relationship is always worth that kind of work! People talk about cultural problems, but what about incompatiblity within same-race relationships? If inter-cultural relationships were too difficult, why do so many same-race relationships end up in divorce? Link to post Share on other sites
Better Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 People talk about cultural problems, but what about incompatiblity within same-race relationships? If inter-cultural relationships were too difficult, why do so many same-race relationships end up in divorce? That's a different problem altogether The cultural problems I am talking about come from earlier generations. There tends to be an expectation that we grow up and fall in love with people that come from the same culture, though not necessarily the same race. For example, I am of Irish/Spanish heritage but my family has been in the US for many generations. I was raised as a Protestant (Presbyterian) and would be considered caucasian despite my distant Spanish heritage. My mother would have liked nothing better than for me to marry a nice caucasian Presbyterian woman to carry on the "tradition" and "culture" to which she was accustomed. I married a Brazilian Catholic. We lived together before marriage, then eloped, and got married outside of the church. It was awesome I am not married anymore but that brings me to the point of my story. Despite the compatibility that the two of us had, the clash between our families was always a source of stress for us. They were separated by continents and religion, and it seemed like we were always being forced to make a decision between the two when we were talking about things like holidays and vacation. I am not saying that you can't overcome cultural differences. In fact, I think they are actually quite fun to work through because you get to learn about something that might never have been open to you. But I do believe that there is pressure from the parents and older family generations that makes it a little more difficult than same culture marriages. FWIW, I am dating outside of my race again 3 Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 People talk about cultural problems, but what about incompatiblity within same-race relationships? If inter-cultural relationships were too difficult, why do so many same-race relationships end up in divorce? It just adds another potential obstacle..I dont think your chances would be any less or greater otherwise.. I have friends of many diverse races, religions and cutural backgrounds..As a 100% Italian American I can honestly say that I get along best with my Italian American friends/acquantances. I dont show them preferential treatment or anything its just that we are on the same page-so to speak. Its not any more complicated than that and there is no hidden agenda... TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
salparadise Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 In my experience, most of the Indians I know have been told that white people don't like us or want us. So, I think that's why Indians ask to see how accurate this idea is or if it can be challenged. I had white boys tell me "Go back to your goddamn country. We don't want you here". If you were in my shoes, wouldn't you start thinking that white people didn't like you? Why would they make those comments if they liked Indian people? I think you should quit looking at ethnicity first and foremost and assess everyone as an individual. There may be cultural biases here and there, a major one perhaps being your parent's preference for you. Also, you are taking anecdotal evidence (some white boys don't like me...) and generalizing it to an entire race (...therefore no white boy will ever like me). This is faulty reasoning, and is in fact the same kind of faulty reasoning that must be present for prejudice to exist. So just stop generalizing and the problem goes away. Even when a pattern exists, it only takes one person who doesn't fit that pattern to make us happy for the rest of our lives, so why exclude broad categories of people based on a factor that's essentially irrelevant anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 ^You are absolutely right, and I admit that the statements in this thread don't make any sense. What triggered this thread was seeing everyone and their mom get engaged and married on facebook, and then I started to fall in to the "Wait, why am I not married yet? Am I going to have to hear pressure from others?" When we humans feel bad about being single, we start putting walls and saying things like "Maybe I'm just not wanted." I have a white female friend that is convinced that white men don't like big butts and curves. It's her way of justifying why she dates black guys, because she truly feels only black men like her. The fact remains that I have had a serious white ex-boyfriend and have had been asked out on dates by white men from online dating . Those dates just didn't evolve into something long-term, so I chose to see it as a failure. I'm guessing if they asked me out on a date, something must have interested them initially. My heart knows that I shouldn't feel bad about being single, and that the right person is on it's way. Some of us are meant to get married later in life, especially when we have other things to figure out. Some of my friends getting married now may not necessarily be happy in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 ^You are absolutely right, and I admit that the statements in this thread don't make any sense. What triggered this thread was seeing everyone and their mom get engaged and married on facebook, and then I started to fall in to the "Wait, why am I not married yet? Am I going to have to hear pressure from others?" When we humans feel bad about being single, we start putting walls and saying things like "Maybe I'm just not wanted." I have a white female friend that is convinced that white men don't like big butts and curves. It's her way of justifying why she dates black guys, because she truly feels only black men like her. The fact remains that I have had a serious white ex-boyfriend and have had been asked out on dates by white men from online dating . Those dates just didn't evolve into something long-term, so I chose to see it as a failure. I'm guessing if they asked me out on a date, something must have interested them initially. My heart knows that I shouldn't feel bad about being single, and that the right person is on it's way. Some of us are meant to get married later in life, especially when we have other things to figure out. Some of my friends getting married now may not necessarily be happy in the long run. Yup, I've asked some Indian women on dates on OLD. Most of the time, they don't respond. Which is why I wrote that I was worried that they didn't like white guys showing interest in them. Do you only date via OLD? Or do you date guys you've met in real life as well? Link to post Share on other sites
hppr Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yes or no, if you aren't scared of dating an Indian woman. That's all what I want to know. This isn't a b*tch thread. Thank you. If she's shapely and we get along well then I'll date her no matter what color she is. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yup, I've asked some Indian women on dates on OLD. Most of the time, they don't respond. Which is why I wrote that I was worried that they didn't like white guys showing interest in them. Do you only date via OLD? Or do you date guys you've met in real life as well? I do both. With my busy job and lifestyle, I've relied on OLD mostly. I will tell you that most Indian women will not compromise on a man's career or education. An Indian doctor or business consultant is probably not going to respond to the man with a highschool degree or the guy that struggles to hold down a job. I'm not saying you're like that, but I think it's important to know. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I do both. With my busy job and lifestyle, I've relied on OLD mostly. I will tell you that most Indian women will not compromise on a man's career or education. An Indian doctor or business consultant is probably not going to respond to the man with a highschool degree or the guy that struggles to hold down a job. I'm not saying you're like that, but I think it's important to know. I have a Bachelors degree. I don't really have a "career" though. I try to go for women who are about as accomplished as I am. Regardless of what ethnicity they are. Link to post Share on other sites
salparadise Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 ^You are absolutely right, and I admit that the statements in this thread don't make any sense. What triggered this thread was seeing everyone and their mom get engaged and married on facebook, and then I started to fall in to the "Wait, why am I not married yet? Am I going to have to hear pressure from others?" When we humans feel bad about being single, we start putting walls and saying things like "Maybe I'm just not wanted." I have a white female friend that is convinced that white men don't like big butts and curves. It's her way of justifying why she dates black guys, because she truly feels only black men like her. The fact remains that I have had a serious white ex-boyfriend and have had been asked out on dates by white men from online dating . Those dates just didn't evolve into something long-term, so I chose to see it as a failure. I'm guessing if they asked me out on a date, something must have interested them initially. My heart knows that I shouldn't feel bad about being single, and that the right person is on it's way. Some of us are meant to get married later in life, especially when we have other things to figure out. Some of my friends getting married now may not necessarily be happy in the long run. I understand that this response is explaining why you feel the way you do, but it serves to further highlight the irrationality in this line of thinking. Not all correlations, even when accurate - which these are not, are based on causal relationships. If your thinking allows you to draw a conclusion based on faulty logic, and you turn that into a belief, then you have simply created an irrational belief. The irrational belief then forms the basis of subsequent irrationality, even when reasoning is logical, because the premise is not valid. You have evidence based on personal experience that white guys are often interested in you, yet you're mixing in a bunch of irrelevant/erroneous assumptions and drawing conclusions that contradict your actual experience. The fact is that most people, regardless of racial factors, date many people before finding someone to marry. Finding the right person is hard for most of us. You're assuming that being tired of being single, are anxious to get married, had a relationship with one white guy that didn't result in marriage, and have a friend who uses faulty logic with regard to white guys and big butts, are somehow relevant. Your life will be a lot happier by expanding possibilities rather than limiting them, if you resist assumptions and generalizations. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) I do both. With my busy job and lifestyle, I've relied on OLD mostly. I will tell you that most Indian women will not compromise on a man's career or education. An Indian doctor or business consultant is probably not going to respond to the man with a highschool degree or the guy that struggles to hold down a job. I'm not saying you're like that, but I think it's important to know. Thats fine, no one should compromise on what is important to them, however.... Some of the "smartest" and most successful people I know have little or no formal education. I am a self made guy with a pretty high net worth that achieved total financial independence by the time I was 40 despite being penniless when I left college. I also can speak as well with a day laborer as I can with a PhD or CEO of a Fortune 500 company..Yes, I have a 4 year college degree, but I may as well use it to wipe my ass as it did nothing to get me where I am today. One of my closest friends is a guy that last year sold his company for 200 million dollars. He is one of the smartest people I have ever met. You would never know it if you saw or met him now, but he never advanced past the 8th grade and did 8 years of time in federal prisons for drug offenses as a kid. Conversely some of the most dull minded and unsuccessful people i know boast of a variety of diplomas and commendations.. Some would have a hard time figuring out how to operate a kitchen appliance or navigate the State dept of Motor Vehicles. I get your point, I really do, but it does bother me when I hear people automatically dismissing someone due to lack of "formal" education..Its flawed logic..Get to know who you are talking to before you make a judgement, thats all... TFY Edited July 7, 2013 by thefooloftheyear 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 Thats fine, no one should compromise on what is important to them, however.... Some of the "smartest" and most successful people I know have little or no formal education. I am a self made guy with a pretty high net worth that achieved total financial independence by the time I was 40 despite being penniless when I left college. I also can speak as well with a day laborer as I can with a PhD or CEO of a Fortune 500 company..Yes, I have a 4 year college degree, but I may as well use it to wipe my ass as it did nothing to get me where I am today. One of my closest friends is a guy that last year sold his company for 200 million dollars. He is one of the smartest people I have ever met. You would never know it if you saw or met him now, but he never advanced past the 8th grade and did 8 years of time in federal prisons for drug offenses as a kid. Conversely some of the most dull minded and unsuccessful people i know boast of a variety of diplomas and commendations.. Some would have a hard time figuring out how to operate a kitchen appliance or navigate the State dept of Motor Vehicles. I get your point, I really do, but it does bother me when I hear people automatically dismissing someone due to lack of "formal" education..Its flawed logic..Get to know who you are talking to before you make a judgement, thats all... TFY This is true, and I should have clarified that I didn't mean to imply that education means that one is more intelligent and one makes money. I know people with Ph.D's that make only 40K a year, while someone that didn't go to college is a millionaire owning several restaurant branches. In general, I was letting the other poster know how Indian families put a lot of emphasis on getting that degree. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nessaaa Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 HELLLLL YA GIMMIE SOME CHOCOLATE BUT. Like Indians from India...nah. carribean Indian ..yes.why? Because they got spice and got a don't f with me attitude that i admire. And they can DANCE, whoa they can whine their behind. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 HELLLLL YA GIMMIE SOME CHOCOLATE BUT. Like Indians from India...nah. carribean Indian ..yes.why? Because they got spice and got a don't f with me attitude that i admire. And they can DANCE, whoa they can whine their behind. I'm more referring to Indians that have parents that immigrated from India. I'm not chocolate, but caramel-ish. Link to post Share on other sites
whirl3daway Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Hah, I find this thread interesting. I am a very Americanized girl of Indian heritage. I'm first generation, and probably the biggest failure of Indian nationality there is. My parents are probably quite disappointed with my lack of desire for Indian men, religion, wealth, an important medical career... but I don't care. I've never, ever dated non-white people. I have this weird issue where I need contrast during sex, because two brown people together seems really weird and incest-like to me. That's my own issue. I've never, ever had a problem getting white men attracted to me, but that's probably because I'm a very nerdy girl who loves video games and electronic music, reading, drinking and playing pool... things that most Indian girls (in my experience, of course) don't like. I have experienced racist white people, but I wouldn't want to date those people anyway, regardless of what race they were. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
will1988 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yes or no, if you aren't scared of dating an Indian woman. That's all what I want to know. This isn't a b*tch thread. Thank you. There are some very beautiful Americanized indian women. If they were Americanized I would date them. However, I live in an apartment complex full of Indian/Pakistani people that are recent immigrants and I'll be honest, and not to sound un-PC or mean, but a lot of them smell to high heaven. They also do not dress in what I consider to be attractive, and their clothes are way too long. Plus they hate my dog, which is really friendly and cute as a button, but they all gasp, weep, and cry if I'm walking him... which is like 30 feet away. So I'd never date one of them. Sorry. But as I said, if they were westernized and attractive and had a great personality (and if I were single), then yes, I'd date an indian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Hah, I find this thread interesting. I am a very Americanized girl of Indian heritage. I'm first generation, and probably the biggest failure of Indian nationality there is. My parents are probably quite disappointed with my lack of desire for Indian men, religion, wealth, an important medical career... but I don't care. I've never, ever dated non-white people. I have this weird issue where I need contrast during sex, because two brown people together seems really weird and incest-like to me. That's my own issue. I've never, ever had a problem getting white men attracted to me, but that's probably because I'm a very nerdy girl who loves video games and electronic music, reading, drinking and playing pool... things that most Indian girls (in my experience, of course) don't like. I have experienced racist white people, but I wouldn't want to date those people anyway, regardless of what race they were. I do like some of the same things you do, but I have had white people ask, "you're indian. Aren't you not supposed to like that?". You got to love the, "isn't it against your religion to wear makeup and dresses?" from non-Indians. to be honest, the one other person that told me that white men were scared of Indian women was a white man that I had been involved with. Of course, he's not going to want to see me move on with anyone else. I did put on my okc ad that "message me if you're not scared of Indian women.". I ended up getting several replies from white men saying they're not intimidated at inter racial dating. Edited July 9, 2013 by Seductive Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yes or no, if you aren't scared of dating an Indian woman. That's all what I want to know. This isn't a b*tch thread. Thank you. I will date any girl I find attractive. Race or ethnicity means absolutely nothing to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I do like some of the same things you do, but I have had white people ask, "you're indian. Aren't you not supposed to like that?". You got to love the, "isn't it against your religion to wear makeup and dresses?" from non-Indians. When I was overseas, I'd get people saying things like "you're American?? I thought all Americans were fat!" It's ignorance, of course, but the relatively harmless kind that can be laughed off. And I was a little pleased that it's not just Americans that can be guilty of it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Seductive Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 When I was overseas, I'd get people saying things like "you're American?? I thought all Americans were fat!" It's ignorance, of course, but the relatively harmless kind that can be laughed off. And I was a little pleased that it's not just Americans that can be guilty of it. Yeah, white women that go to India need to be careful of being viewed as the equivalent of a porn star. Link to post Share on other sites
dichotomy Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yes or no, if you aren't scared of dating an Indian woman. That's all what I want to know. Thank you. No - not scared on a "one to one" basis. When it comes to female attractiveness I am color blind. I would most certainly go out on a date. As others have mentioned - dealing with the woman's family or perhaps indian culutural circles (if there are ones) - yes a bit scared as I might not be treated well or accepted ....but I could probably say the same for any gal - even white ones - with a significant cultural difference from mine. I have dated girls from different parts of the united states - were I visited her family in their home town/state and there was some challeneges. Long Island is alot different then Indiana. Link to post Share on other sites
whirl3daway Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I do like some of the same things you do, but I have had white people ask, "you're indian. Aren't you not supposed to like that?". You got to love the, "isn't it against your religion to wear makeup and dresses?" from non-Indians. to be honest, the one other person that told me that white men were scared of Indian women was a white man that I had been involved with. Of course, he's not going to want to see me move on with anyone else. I did put on my okc ad that "message me if you're not scared of Indian women.". I ended up getting several replies from white men saying they're not intimidated at inter racial dating. I've found that it can be off-putting for me personally, if I see something in a dating profile that appears to be a "challenge". I would feel a bit weird messaging you if you had that in your profile. It's similar to how I feel awkward when men complain about how "I'm trying this AGAIN, but I have no faith..." - yes, OLD can be a struggle for many people, but the negativity is a turn off for me. Do you dress in an Americanized way? Do you live with your family? I think the biggest issue is not that Indian women intimidate men, but that they can have a lot of baggage (family/smell/fashion sense) that turn men off. I've often been described as "the whitest Indian alive", and while I don't do that on purpose, I think it makes white guys view me as more approachable. Link to post Share on other sites
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