Are very bitter people, who despise the opposite gender, actually better off alone?

[crude]

Show me a single feminist forum with the consensus of women pushing for the equality you claim.

 

Preposterous.

 

Women want only what they can take. None of the responsibilities and absolutely no fairness.

 

Forget forums. Look around at real people. I've seen husbands and wives who both have careers, and neither pays alimony, they get joint custody of the children, the marital assets are split. When there's an old fashioned marriage where the man said my wife stays at home with the children, she's the mother and I'm the man, the breadwinner, things are different. He loses everything, and magically decides fathers are equally important, and women can get jobs. In other words, these bitter traditionalists become feminists, but it's too late. Forget about forums and blogs, look around at real life.

[Woggle]

I think most women are feminists even if they reject the word feminist. The ideas are still there but the misandrists have poisoned that word.

[Ryan R.]

I think most women are feminists even if they reject the word feminist. The ideas are still there but the misandrists have poisoned that word.

 

Most women do by default. I asked this one girl if she considers herself a feminist and she said "yeah, but I care about rights for both genders." I said: "So you're a gender equalist then?"

[Pompeii]

You don't have to tell us that you think it's BS for men to have any rights. We figured that out already.

 

No... I don't think its BS for men to have rights. I just think that the MRA movement is severely misguided. Too many keyboard warriors, not enough real world action. A movement will only go so far if it doesn't have its members reveal themselves...

[KungFuJoe]

Survival of the fittest.

 

I think it's VERY appropriate that the bitter haters remain alone so they don't procreate.

[USMCHokie]

Feminists don't hate men. They want equality and I agree with them.

 

No, I don't think equality is the correct term here. They want the same entitlements. More for less.

 

Feminists want women to have careers so men won't have to pay alimony, they want men to be equal parents so they won't lose custody, they want both genders to register for Selective Service, they want equal jail sentences for women. It's conservatives who want the old double standards that make men second class citizens, condemned to do all the dirty work in life. For some reason, guys don't see that (illogical).

 

I assume this was a sarcastic response...?

[sweetjasmine]

I assume this was a sarcastic response...?

 

No. Why would you think so? I'm a feminist and agree with all of that. You people really don't know what the word means, do you?

[therhythm]

Survival of the fittest.

 

I think it's VERY appropriate that the bitter haters remain alone so they don't procreate.

 

This^^^^

 

Haters (females and males) should just stay alone... if they hate so much the other gender then better to remind far from that that you hate so much

[Emilia]

What person these days doesn't have at least some bitterness towards the oppposite sex?

 

*raises hand*

 

I don't. None at all.

Joining hoping2heal and ThaWholigan on that one.

I am not justifying it. I am just honest about my issues while most people are in denial. The first step towards changing is admitting you have a problem and I have taken that step. Others won't even take that step.

The problem with haters is that they assume everyone thinks the same way they do. They are unable to see the big picture and this is why they hate in the first place.

[therhythm]

Joining hoping2heal and ThaWholigan on that one.

 

The problem with haters is that they assume everyone thinks the same way they do. They are unable to see the big picture and this is why they hate in the first place.

 

I add myself to this line.. I do not have any hate, resentment or bad feeling in anyway about women.

 

I see people as individuals, I have had problems with men and with women in my life, I don't think I can take that issues up to a gender in general... that is unfair and wrong!

[Xinreeki]

I add myself to this line.. I do not have any hate, resentment or bad feeling in anyway about women.

 

I see people as individuals, I have had problems with men and with women in my life, I don't think I can take that issues up to a gender in general... that is unfair and wrong!

 

Thank you therhythm! Thank you so much for getting it!

 

I think the majority of posters COMPLETELY missed my point in this thread.

 

My point is simply this -

 

You can not blame an ENTIRE gender for your bad experiences with dating!

 

That's ridiculous, because everyone is DIFFERENT, thinks DIFFERENTLY, acts DIFFERENTLY, desires DIFFERENT things, behaves in DIFFERENT ways.. etc..

 

That is my point here.

 

If you're bitter at a few because they have hurt you, then that is fine and completely understandable. But you can't blame an entire gender, or an entire race for the hurtful actions of a few! That's insane!!

 

If you do, you are effectively labeling a whole group of people as worthless, entitled, demanding, untrustworthy, gold-digging, abusive etc, without taking the time to get to know them for who they are!

 

I've had some very bad experiences with men in the past. Where I was physically and emotionally abused.

 

But I don't blame ALL men for the abuse I suffered. Because I know all men are different. I know my bf is VERY different, the complete opposite in fact, because he is incredibly supportive, kind and caring and we love each other dearly.

 

I just don't understand how you can stereotype and resent an entire gender, an entire race, when everyone is different??

Edited July 12, 2013 by Xinreeki

[therhythm]

Thank you therhythm! Thank you so much for getting it!

 

I think the majority of posters COMPLETELY missed my point in this thread.

 

My point is simply this -

 

You can not blame an ENTIRE gender for your bad experiences with dating!

 

That's ridiculous, because everyone is DIFFERENT, thinks DIFFERENTLY, acts DIFFERENTLY, desires DIFFERENT things, behaves in DIFFERENT ways.. etc..

 

That is my point here.

 

If you're bitter at a few because they have hurt you, then that is fine and completely understandable. But you can't blame an entire gender, or an entire race for the hurtful actions of a few! That's insane!!

 

If you do, you are effectively labeling a whole group of people as worthless, entitled, demanding, untrustworthy, gold-digging, abusive etc, without taking the time to get to know them for who they are!

 

I've had some very bad experiences with men in the past. Where I was physically and emotionally abused.

 

But I don't blame ALL men for the abuse I suffered. Because I know all men are different. I know my bf is VERY different, the complete opposite in fact, because he is incredibly supportive, kind and caring and we love each other dearly.

 

I just don't understand how you can stereotype and resent an entire gender, an entire race, when everyone is different??

 

Yes... generalizations are always wrong... there are around 3 billion of women and 3 billion of men of different races, cultures, upbringings, life experiences, nationalities, beliefs (or disbiliefs), sexuality, drives, etc.... to put them together in the same group just because you had some bad experiences with some people of that gender is so wrong!

Edited July 12, 2013 by therhythm

[PJKino]

It depends some people are just bad angry people and they are better off alone but alot of guys here and speaking for myself also get labeled bitter or angry or hate women and its the farhrtest thing from the truth..

 

It's just that when you reach a certain point and never had the touch of a women and never felt what its like physically or mentally to be loved and to love a women back it takes its toll on you and can be crushing so you sometimes lash out and say things yo dont even mean..

 

Most people who know me know im a very caring big hearted person and i do love women very much its just that the loneliness and pain gets unbearable sometimes so i lash out and say things i shouldnt out of sadness..

 

Not being able to attract women your whole life makes you feel alone and inadequate physically socially etc it sucks

Edited July 12, 2013 by PJKino

[Woggle]

Joining hoping2heal and ThaWholigan on that one.

 

The problem with haters is that they assume everyone thinks the same way they do. They are unable to see the big picture and this is why they hate in the first place.

 

I don't think everyone thinks this way but there is clearly a lot of animosity between men and women these days. You can tell just by reading comments online and the fact that nobody can seem to make relationships work anymore. There is a lot of bitterness but very few people will admit it. They remind of those celebrities back in the 80s who did just say no commercials right before they snorted some lines.

[sweetjasmine]

I don't think everyone thinks this way but there is clearly a lot of animosity between men and women these days. You can tell just by reading comments online and the fact that nobody can seem to make relationships work anymore. There is a lot of bitterness but very few people will admit it. They remind of those celebrities back in the 80s who did just say no commercials right before they snorted some lines.

 

For the billionth time, you stick your head in dumpsters and are amazed when all you see is garbage.

 

The same is true for most of the very bitter folks around here.

 

My new philosophy? Go ruin your own lives, if that's what you really want. Just don't shove the toxic trash in everyone else's faces.

[KungFuJoe]

I add myself to this line.. I do not have any hate, resentment or bad feeling in anyway about women.

 

I see people as individuals, I have had problems with men and with women in my life, I don't think I can take that issues up to a gender in general... that is unfair and wrong!

 

THIS is why the majority of men and women struggle, imo. They don't see the opposite sex as just people...they see them as the "opposing team".

[Woggle]

For the billionth time, you stick your head in dumpsters and are amazed when all you see is garbage.

 

The same is true for most of the very bitter folks around here.

 

My new philosophy? Go ruin your own lives, if that's what you really want. Just don't shove the toxic trash in everyone else's faces.

 

I just call it like it is. Not everybody hates the opposite sex but there is clearly a lot of animosity these days. I feel a lot of people want to kill the messenger these days.

[therhythm]

I don't think everyone thinks this way but there is clearly a lot of animosity between men and women these days. You can tell just by reading comments online and the fact that nobody can seem to make relationships work anymore. There is a lot of bitterness but very few people will admit it. They remind of those celebrities back in the 80s who did just say no commercials right before they snorted some lines.

 

You really should not measure the relationships between men and women by looking to this forum, most of the people who came to this forum is because we had a problem... There is plenty of happy marriages where men and women love each other.

[Woggle]

You really should not measure the relationships between men and women by looking to this forum, most of the people who came to this forum is because we had a problem... There is plenty of happy marriages where men and women love each other.

 

Just look at the world around. Marriage and committed relationships in general are dying concepts.

[therhythm]

Just look at the world around. Marriage and committed relationships in general are dying concepts.

 

That is your way of seeing it... not mine... In fact we are 3 single (I mean married or living together relationships) guys of a group of 16 friends... so I guess that says a lot about it.

[sweetjasmine]

I just call it like it is.

 

That's the predictable BS excuse you always pull out. Okay, then, enjoy being miserable!

 

I feel a lot of people want to kill the messenger these days.

 

Oh, not at all. You're doing a fine job of poisoning your own life. You don't need help from anyone else. Like I said, just keep it to yourself, or at least amongst your bitter brethren.

[Woggle]

Fine. Men and women all love each other and no bad relationships ever exist. Is that better?

[therhythm]

Fine. Men and women all love each other and no bad relationships ever exist. Is that better?

 

Ohh no one is saying that... You are really black and white man... there are a lot of gray scales in the middle...

 

There is about everything in the world but the sooner we realize that this is not a football match between women and men where we need to cheer for one or for another it will be best for us. We are all individuals, I love some men and some women in this forum and I dislike some men and women in this forum as well... People are just that... people... the fact that they are women or men is random when looking to their personalities and behavior.

[KungFuJoe]

Fine. Men and women all love each other and no bad relationships ever exist. Is that better?

 

Your black and white attitude is VERY indicative of depression.

 

Have you considered seeking therapy?

 

No joke...you're married with kids and your attitude is potentially very dangerous.

[Woggle]

Your black and white attitude is VERY indicative of depression.

 

Have you considered seeking therapy?

 

No joke...you're married with kids and your attitude is potentially very dangerous.

 

We have no kids.