UFOs in Ancient Mythology?

[M30USA]

I just came across this bizarre excerpt from an ancient myth. Before I quote it, it's important to have some background on the fact that classic "flying saucers", aside from being disc-shaped and silver, almost always have the additional characteristic of being glowing and/or multi-colored.

 

"So Horus, the Winged Measurer, flew up toward the horizon in the Winged Disk of Ra...Then Horus reappeared in the Winged Disk, which shined with many colors: and he came back to the boat of Ra, the Falcon of the Horizon...And Thoth said: 'O Lord of the gods! The Winged Measurer has returned in the great Winged Disk, shining with many colors.'"

 

--Hieroglyphs at Temple of Edfu

[LisaLee]

Supposedly the prophet Ezekiel was also visited by ancient astronauts.

[skydiveaddict]

How could I figure that this topic would come up again.

[Eclypse]

You reckon that's cool? This will blow your mind away.

 

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/pictures/Nuremberg1561.jpg

 

A supposed UFO battle over Nuremberg in 1561. Just google UFO's in medieval art. There is so much freaky ****. Of course, it's just as likely they were fooled by the same tricks of light so many people are today. Or maybe, for some reason two alien air fleets decided to pick a fight over Nuremberg in 1561 :|

[steveT95]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9qhtgr9cj1qbilvco1_400.jpg

 

This is a tricky subject, since it is all theory. There has been findings of potential aircraft built by ancient civilizations such as the Egyptians and Mayans.

And it was a meteor exploding that convinced an emperor (I think his name) to become Christian.

Unexplainable things in space have influenced a lot.

I do believe there are aliens in space, but no more than that because of the lack of proof. (other than my own sighting :/ )

[M30USA]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9qhtgr9cj1qbilvco1_400.jpg

 

This is a tricky subject, since it is all theory. There has been findings of potential aircraft built by ancient civilizations such as the Egyptians and Mayans.

And it was a meteor exploding that convinced an emperor (I think his name) to become Christian.

Unexplainable things in space have influenced a lot.

I do believe there are aliens in space, but no more than that because of the lack of proof. (other than my own sighting :/ )

 

Not all of it is theory. Unless you consider multiple, expert witness testimony from different locations of the same event to be theory? And unless you consider ground evidence such as indentations and radiation to be theory as well?

 

Numerous events are real. Proven. The ONLY theory is their identity. That is the ONLY thing you can argue. You CAN make a legitimate case that UFOs are from earth, but at this point to argue that it's all a hoax is to argue that the sky is polka-dot purple.

[steveT95]

Not all of it is theory. Unless you consider multiple, expert witness testimony from different locations of the same event to be theory? And unless you consider ground evidence such as indentations and radiation to be theory as well?

 

Numerous events are real. Proven. The ONLY theory is their identity. That is the ONLY thing you can argue. You CAN make a legitimate case that UFOs are from earth, but at this point to argue that it's all a hoax is to argue that the sky is polka-dot purple.

 

I haven't looked into it much. I'm not seeing any stated facts about things from trustworthy sources. BUT you don't have to defend it in anyway because

*crowd falls silent*

I believe it too!

*gasp*

[M30USA]

I haven't looked into it much. I'm not seeing any stated facts about things from trustworthy sources. BUT you don't have to defend it in anyway because

*crowd falls silent*

I believe it too!

*gasp*

 

Lol, yea.

 

Anyway, there's a reason people shy away from this subject. It has way too many philosophical implications and potentially would require a change in how we live/think. People would rather continue their lives of work, make money, eat, and cozy family life. As Confucius said, when the student is ready, then the teacher appears.

Edited July 15, 2013 by M30USA

[Gunny376]

I've been studying this since I was in high school, and have read many boopks and such on the subject. At best there's a lot of room for "Yea but, .................................... But clearly there is a lot of room for speculation, conjecture, and such. I think this much is clear and certain that the history that we're taught as is ~ is lacking. And, there's a lot that's being left out and that has been left out rather intentionally or un-intentionally, (i.e. such as the burning of what at the time was the most comprehensive, in-depth, concise, and volumious source of wisdom and knowledge ~ The Library of Alexandra.)

 

If one read the KJV of the Bible cover to cover, there is clearly two different Gods in reference ~ or at least two 180 degrees from the One depicted in the Old Teastment and the One depicted in the New Teastment.

 

Another aspect whicih I've been un-able to reconcile in my mind is in the absence in both Books of any and all parts of the planet and its people other than as is contained in what is today refered to as the Middle East exclusively?

 

But clearly something of World-wide and significane occured somewhere around 25,000 to 5,000 years ago. Modern history would have us believe that we suddenly around 5,000 years ago we went from being hunter-gathers exclusively to modern concepts of architecture, (The Great Pyrimids, the Mayan pyrimids, etc) mathematics, business, the accounting syste, the domesitication of animals, agriculture, etc? When the anthropological record and the DNA record indicates that Homo Sapiens, Homo Sapinens Sapiens, (Modern man of today) and now another spieces of man (Ref: This months current edition of National Geographic Magazine) all co-exsisted and interbred at the same point in time over the course of tens of thousands of years prior to this period?

 

With that said, you may want to look into a series of books called "The Earth Chroniciles" by Zethria Sethin. I'm not advocating he's right or wrong in his thinking, and what he presents. I do find it interesting though.

[M30USA]

If one read the KJV of the Bible cover to cover, there is clearly two different Gods in reference ~ or at least two 180 degrees from the One depicted in the Old Teastment and the One depicted in the New Teastment.

 

Gunny, I generally think your posts are insightful, but I have to disagree with that one. This topic has been debated for literally centuries and, at the very least, you must acknowledge that Jesus, himself, claimed that he did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets but rather to fulfill them. Granted, he made phrases like "you have heard it said, but I tell you"--however, he had 2 purposes for doing so: 1) to highlight the ways in which past generations misapplied certain Scriptures, and 2) to show an opposite yet not contradictory aspect of a subject--such as judgement versus mercy. Judgement and mercy are opposites yet do not contradict each other theologically as they can easily fit together in the character of God.

Edited July 15, 2013 by M30USA

[M30USA]

Supposedly the prophet Ezekiel was also visited by ancient astronauts.

 

I wouldn't call them "ancient astronauts". I find that term highly misleading. It suggests that these are advanced beings from an evolutionary process. This isn't the case based on all the evidence. All the evidence suggests they are not advanced from an evolutionary standpoint, but rather from a spiritual standpoint. They are akin to angels/spirits, rather than biological beings limited to 3 dimensions (like you and I). Additionally, since these visitors clearly have an interest in spiritual subjects (such as Christ, Scripture, and communion with people's souls), this sounds less like an evolutionary being exploring for scientific purposes and more like an angelic/spiritual being coming for specific purposes pertaining to the plan of God (as well as the plan of Satan).

[TaraMaiden]

"So Horus, the Winged Measurer, flew up toward the horizon in the Winged Disk of Ra...

 

yeah...that's the sun. They had no idea the sun was three-dimensional. Why would they? they could only see one aspect of it....

 

Then Horus reappeared in the Winged Disk, which shined with many colors:

Yeah, the sun changes colour depending on the time of day.... and if there's light cloud-cover it looks like a pearl through gauze....hence the 'shined with many colours'...

 

and he came back to the boat of Ra, the Falcon of the Horizon...And Thoth said: 'O Lord of the gods! The Winged Measurer has returned in the great Winged Disk, shining with many colors.'"

yup, see above.

I don't need to repeat myself.

[M30USA]

In continuation of my last post, a good example to show that these "visitors" are not evolutionary beings, but rather angelic, is the following:

 

A man named Claude Vorilhon in 1973 claims to hear voices in his head telling him to go up to a specific mountain. When he does, a "spacecraft" comes down and then human-like beings walk out from it to greet him. They engage in communication, almost entirely about one subject: The Bible. He claims he was told by these visitors what certain verses in Scripture "really" mean, but we've been misunderstanding them all along because we haven't been "advanced" enough.

 

This man went on to found the Raelian religious movement.

 

"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!" (Galatians 1:8, 9 NASB)

Edited July 19, 2013 by M30USA

[TaraMaiden]

Yeah.

A man who came into our business once, and began to discuss how he would invest lottery money if he won, advised me that tornadoes were actually our passageways to visiting other worlds. We misunderstand their purpose. We should permit ourselves to be transported by them to other planets to meet other beings.

 

Also, that Shamans from across the globe should be listened to when they speak of animal communication, because animals are messengers from other spatial districts sent to teach us how to live honourably.

 

Makes as much sense as what you have just posted, and is just about as logical.

[M30USA]

Yeah.

A man who came into our business once, and began to discuss how he would invest lottery money if he won, advised me that tornadoes were actually our passageways to visiting other worlds. We misunderstand their purpose. We should permit ourselves to be transported by them to other planets to meet other beings.

 

Also, that Shamans from across the globe should be listened to when they speak of animal communication, because animals are messengers from other spatial districts sent to teach us how to live honourably.

 

Makes as much sense as what you have just posted, and is just about as logical.

 

I no longer laugh at anything anymore. I hold my laughter until I've given it a fair search. And if I don't care to spend time searching, then I don't comment. Fools are the ones who enjoy laughing and mocking.

Edited July 20, 2013 by M30USA

[TaraMaiden]

Who's 'laughing or mocking'?

 

I just said it made as much sense and was just as logical as what you'd posted.

[M30USA]

Who's 'laughing or mocking'?

 

I just said it made as much sense and was just as logical as what you'd posted.

 

I wasn't referring to you as laughing and mocking.

 

And, for the record, I used to laugh at people who believed in UFOs. It was merely due to fear and embarrassment, rather than any logical basis. This was when I was a lot younger and stupid.

[TaraMaiden]

Now you're just a lot older and.....

 

No, that's just rude.

 

[M30USA]

Now you're just a lot older and.....

 

No, that's just rude.

 

 

I just don't comment on things I know nothing about. That's about the only thing age has taught me.

[Robert Z]

I don't understand the fascination with ancient accounts nearly as much as the high quality, modern, UFO reports. Ancient accounts can be intriguing, but lacking the ability to have confidence in any particular account or the proper interpretation, I don't see how useful information can be derived or deduced. I still can't get past the question of "Have we been visited even once?". I see no way to extrapolate mythology with any degree of confidence to meaningful information.

 

I have watched more of the ancient alien stuff than I can take. It is so full of inaccuracies and misleading statements that it appears to be intentionally deceptive.

[M30USA]

I don't understand the fascination with ancient accounts nearly as much as the high quality, modern, UFO reports. Ancient accounts can be intriguing, but lacking the ability to have confidence in any particular account or the proper interpretation, I don't see how useful information can be derived or deduced. I still can't get past the question of "Have we been visited even once?". I see no way to extrapolate mythology with any degree of confidence to meaningful information.

 

I have watched more of the ancient alien stuff than I can take. It is so full of inaccuracies and misleading statements that it appears to be intentionally deceptive.

 

The ancient sighting are significant because they show that this phenomenon is nothing new. They aren't arriving here for the first time just as we are beginning space exploration. No. They've been here on and off.

[Robert Z]

The ancient sighting are significant because they show that this phenomenon is nothing new. They aren't arriving here for the first time just as we are beginning space exploration. No. They've been here on and off.

 

I disagree. In some cases they might suggest that there is an extended history of visitations but they don't show that definitively by any means.

 

There is nothing but ancient anecdotes. Given that we don't know if even one is credible, to construct a labyrinth of deductions and conclusions is premature at best.

[Robert Z]

Personally, given the relatively good evidence that we have in some modern reports, including still-living witnesses, I think it muddies the waters to focus on ancient accounts. Why focus on that which has the least amount of logical weight?