She left me for THIS kinda guy?

[Madman81]

No divorced guy with 2 kids that is 9 years older than her would tolerate a relationship with her that did not include sex. She may have been a virgin with you, but she did not stay a virgin with the other man (OM). With him being her first, you did not stand a chance in the excitement department. Being many years older than you, the OM is more financially established than you even after the divorce, and thus he can afford to pick up the tab for her for a few months until he gets what he wants, and trust me he is getting it now.

I agree with this. You didn't rev her engine, that's why she didn't have sex with you. This isn't meant to bash you, it's just the way it is. You're not going to rev every woman's engine. Now you need to find a woman it DOES work with. And a piece of advice: don't get involved with a woman who wants to wait until marriage, unless that's part of your personal philosophy as well.

[twinkie0]

I know it must hurt you. But you gotta realize you are lucky things ended. That girl, according to what you described, doesn't want a man. At least not a real man. She needs a pathetic floor mat, a guy so desperate he is willing to dedicate himself entirely to her in a rather unhealthy way (high-mainteinance, as described above)

 

It's the most common thing in the world to have this period of bombarding a girl with hearts and flowers, the "honeymoon stage", as you call it. But that's all it should be: a phase. Of course one has to keep the interest by doing something special every once in a while, but no sane girl expects a guy to be like this all the time, and no sane guy is willing to do this all the time.

 

And no matter how much of a woman-pleaser that guy is, eventually he will either not be able to keep up with this ridiculous, unrealistic "kiss my ass all the time" expectations she has and will either get dumped or get fed up and leave himself.

 

She wants a pushover, and you clearly are not one. I feel sorry for her because the only type of man that can meet her standards, well... isn't really a man.

Edited July 25, 2013 by twinkie0

[karnak]

So, in terms of physical/sexual excitement, we were quite limited. What we did do (fingering, kissing, touching)...we did rarely because she says she does not focus much attention to those areas. I recall her complaining about how it hurts when I fingered her, but that primarily occurs since she is a virgin. Though she did say others in the past did not make it hurt.

 

 

 

So, she let you masturbate her, and she still claimed that she was a virgin?

 

She allowed you to touch her pussy and she didn't consider that sex?

 

You can see that this girl is messed-up, right?

[CazK88]

So only men have the right to judge what you write on the forum?

 

Caz, you're a huge f*cking whiner! There's just nothing attractive about that.

 

I read your first paragraph and didn't read your ridiculously long ramble that probably repeats for the 4th or 5th time the exact same details of your situation.

 

Sorry, but I'm judging you by your descriptions of your own actions. If you don't want to accept reality, not my problem. Good luck with women in the future. If you don't get a backbone, you're definitely in for a lot more heartache.

 

It's obvious you've no interest in help, so I'm not going to spend any more time trying to give you advice.

 

TWIA out.

 

The Way I Am, considering you have many other people on this forum in disagreement with you, I am not the only one who see's that you are just flawed in your idiosyncrasies.

 

The entire time you have spent here overanalyzing something that you just cannot process simply because you, once again, see things in rose colored glasses. I repeat again so that you can read it: women like you tend to spent most of your time subjectively seeing it one way and totally dismissing the objectivity that matters. Women like you are a walking love story from the Zane book, and feel that every man should blow sunshine up your tails. The reality is this: it ain't gonna happen! And tell me...if you are such a "great woman" in your own book, why do you spend half the day responding to these posts? That man of yours must feel real lonely with you. No pun intended.

 

Caz

[CazK88]

That's because you were doing it WRONG and they weren't.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if she didn't just claim to be a virgin because she clearly wasn't attracted to you like she should have been, and didn't want to have to be physical with you.

 

 

Forum Lurker, no I do not believe I was doing it wrong at all. I have fingered other women the exact same way and they loved it! With her, she would seem uncomfortable and in pain. I am thinking she may have had an issue down there at one point. Who knows, but I am certain she is a virgin because even her sister got concerned if I would even stick around long with her knowing that she was a virgin.

 

When things were great in the beginning, considering all of the things we did do, she would have had plenty of opportunity to have sex with me. But when it hurts down there, its a sign to say that they are a virgin and aren't used to it. IMO.

[CazK88]

Does anyone see this picture wrong?

 

She cheats on me for this guy at her job who is divorced and has two kids that live way over in Chicago. He told her that he had (has) a girlfriend over in Bolivia but she doesn't respond to his emails. So she things this is the best time for her to do the do.

 

Will this even last? I mean this is pretty much a fling job here. She told me once that he does all that she likes (spoil her, surprises her, is a gentleman..as if I wasn't). I think she is totally oblivious to what problems may impact her such as why this guy got divorced, how she may feel neglected when the kids are involved, her wondering if he is screwing his ex wife since she won't be willing to give up any to him. Doesn't look promising to me. What do you all think?

[Geiss]

Whatever you do when she loses her virginity to this guy even though she says she is saving it for marriage whatever you do, don't take her back when she comes crawling back on her hands and knees after she realized what a huge mistake she made by going out with that loser.

[WordvAction]

Does anyone see this picture wrong?

 

She cheats on me for this guy at her job who is divorced and has two kids that live way over in Chicago. He told her that he had (has) a girlfriend over in Bolivia but she doesn't respond to his emails. So she things this is the best time for her to do the do.

 

Will this even last? I mean this is pretty much a fling job here. She told me once that he does all that she likes (spoil her, surprises her, is a gentleman..as if I wasn't). I think she is totally oblivious to what problems may impact her such as why this guy got divorced, how she may feel neglected when the kids are involved, her wondering if he is screwing his ex wife since she won't be willing to give up any to him. Doesn't look promising to me. What do you all think?

 

Nobody answer this question. Why are you focusing on the outcome of this relationship? What good will come of it? You're not going to get back with this girl nor should you; she treated you like **** and then went to "greener grass" when she got bored of you. You can do better; focusing on their relationship will only make you dwell and will reinforce The Way I Am's point that maybe you are a pushover (which I don't think you are). Move on and try and forget this chick so you stop thinking about it man

[CazK88]

Nobody answer this question. Why are you focusing on the outcome of this relationship? What good will come of it? You're not going to get back with this girl nor should you; she treated you like **** and then went to "greener grass" when she got bored of you. You can do better; focusing on their relationship will only make you dwell and will reinforce The Way I Am's point that maybe you are a pushover (which I don't think you are). Move on and try and forget this chick so you stop thinking about it man

 

 

So what if she decides to come back after things didn't work out? Even though I will say No, suppose she keeps begging?

[Radu]

The Way I Am, considering you have many other people on this forum in disagreement with you, I am not the only one who see's that you are just flawed in your idiosyncrasies.

 

The entire time you have spent here overanalyzing something that you just cannot process simply because you, once again, see things in rose colored glasses. I repeat again so that you can read it: women like you tend to spent most of your time subjectively seeing it one way and totally dismissing the objectivity that matters. Women like you are a walking love story from the Zane book, and feel that every man should blow sunshine up your tails. The reality is this: it ain't gonna happen! And tell me...if you are such a "great woman" in your own book, why do you spend half the day responding to these posts? That man of yours must feel real lonely with you. No pun intended.

 

Caz

 

So, you who can't figure out that this woman is bad news, a cheater, not a virgin anymore [she already slept with the other guy], who also can't figure out what is wrong with his character or how to act like a man, know better about what turns on a woman than a woman ?

 

You know what dude, you are totally right.

She will return to you, she will claim to still be virgin, you will be married.

And in a few yrs you will post here.

 

And if that doesn't happen, you will meet another like her.

[pcplod]

I think that is what is typically defined as:

 

"A close escape".

 

Appreciate it for what it truly is and stop trying to forensically dissect it. Just recognise it for what it truly was.

 

Mr New Guy WILL dump her, probably sooner than later and in that respect that are probably well suited, at least in the sense of karma.

 

Just watch for her rebounding into your life. If she does, just tell her that you are already in a new relationship; with a skunk.

 

By the way, it doesn't actually have to be true. It would be one of those occasions when a lie would not only be justified but appropriate. The more outrageous, the better.

 

PS. He may have nicked her virginity, but not her innocence. Funny how that can work out sometimes.

Edited July 29, 2013 by pcplod

[WordvAction]

I think that is what is typically defined as:

 

"A close escape".

 

Appreciate it for what it truly is and stop trying to forensically dissect it. Just recognise it for what it truly was.

 

Mr New Guy WILL dump her, probably sooner than later and in that respect that are probably well suited, at least in the sense of karma.

 

Just watch for her rebounding into your life. If she does, just tell her that you are already in a new relationship; with a skunk.

 

By the way, it doesn't actually have to be true. It would be one of those occasions when a lie would not only be justified but appropriate. The more outrageous, the better.

 

PS. He may have nicked her virginity, but not her innocence. Funny how that can work out sometimes.

 

The problem here though is the OP is still hoping to date her; he's trying to think of a scenario where she will magically want him, and he will reject, but wil ultimately succumb to her "romantic begging". He's looking for a way to hold onto hope, and not allowing himself to move on.