Els Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 First off, I personally view romance and seduction as two rather different things. IMO, the latter aims to entice someone into bed with you, while the former is a demonstration of love/affection. I'm also fairly sure that 'the art of romance' isn't dead. As a matter of fact, just had some of it yesterday... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
tbf Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Speaking of movies, grand gestures and dysfunctional relationships, please don't tell me I'd rather snipe a bullet between Stanley's eyes, than to get within shooting distance of him. Link to post Share on other sites
MissBee Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Is romance dead? When was the last time you got seduced? I mean really seduced. I'm talking about a passionate courting. Not just some guy asking you "hey you wanna go to the movies?" This is not just geared towards women -- when I visit pua forums as a guest, every "lay report" begins and ends with a guy going to a bar and finding a woman with the ideal amount of alcohol in her. Not so much that she's vomiting, but enough that her standards are lowered significantly and her judgement is impaired. Not very romantic, in my opinion. You might say "but Castle, you don't believe in relationships, you have casual partners, how romantic can you be? Aren't you part of this anti-romance movement?" Well, to that I'd say, you can be casual and still be romantic. Just because I don't want to settle down with one woman in particular doesn't mean all I'm doing is taking girls to a pizza place and then banging them in my car. I believe you can be romantic without being in a LTR just like you can be in a LTR and not be romantic. Having a sense of romance, to me, is something you're either born with, or you're not. From the outside looking in, and reading some of the threads here and elsewhere -- a lot of relationships are..."typical," to say the least. It's people going through the motions and not doing much as far as uniqueness/romance is concerned. I guess one could argue it's more about attraction than anything. That if you're truly into the person, anything you do together is romantic, but I don't really see it that way. I think romance takes effort. You make a conscious decision to do something different/special for someone as opposed to doing the bare minimum because in your mind "he/she already likes me so I don't have to do anything to prove myself." How do you feel about romance these days? Lost art form? Wanna date? But yea...I am so over most men these days as many of them are lame as hell and lack creativity or any concept of romance. I do think part of it is the internet dating culture which promotes the hang out/hook up culture, where there is no courting, no romance, not even seduction, no trying, but men expect to get your number, they don't even call but fccuking text you and then some of them don't even want to go on a proper date out but expect to come by your house or you theirs...ughhh heck no! My last boyfriend was pretty romantic, our first date was at a cute Italian cafe and he was a perfect gentleman, then we went to the park and watched stars, our second date he made me sushi...I didn't even know people really made sushi at home, so I was very impressed that he had all the tools, I watched him cook, we had wine...and we had it as a picnic in his living room, then watched a movie under the picnic blanket plenty more stuff and it really made me feel like he was an interesting guy who wasn't just "Hey wanna see a movie?" But our dates were always well-thought out, very intimate, cute and his whole thing was he didn't want to do stuff for me that every other guy did which wasn't memorable. Too bad he ruined everything later on lol....but he was romantic while it lasted. He did lots of romantic dates, but the guy I dated before spoke to my soul because he romanced me with words. He was very expressive and it was his ease at telling me how he felt, telling me how beautiful he thought I was, how brilliant, how lucky he felt to be with me, the emails he'd send, the just thinking of you texts, the random gifts with sweet messages attached, making me a playlist with songs about how he feels about us (cheesy but very sweet ). Our dates weren't as "different" but his expressiveness was wonderful, while the more romantic guy, he was a little less expressive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author MrCastle Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wanna date? But yea...I am so over most men these days as many of them are lame as hell and lack creativity or any concept of romance. I do think part of it is the internet dating culture which promotes the hang out/hook up culture, where there is no courting, no romance, not even seduction, no trying, but men expect to get your number, they don't even call but fccuking text you and then some of them don't even want to go on a proper date out but expect to come by your house or you theirs...ughhh heck no! My last boyfriend was pretty romantic, our first date was at a cute Italian cafe and he was a perfect gentleman, then we went to the park and watched stars, our second date he made me sushi...I didn't even know people really made sushi at home, so I was very impressed that he had all the tools, I watched him cook, we had wine...and we had it as a picnic in his living room, then watched a movie under the picnic blanket plenty more stuff and it really made me feel like he was an interesting guy who wasn't just "Hey wanna see a movie?" But our dates were always well-thought out, very intimate, cute and his whole thing was he didn't want to do stuff for me that every other guy did which wasn't memorable. Too bad he ruined everything later on lol....but he was romantic while it lasted. He did lots of romantic dates, but the guy I dated before spoke to my soul because he romanced me with words. He was very expressive and it was his ease at telling me how he felt, telling me how beautiful he thought I was, how brilliant, how lucky he felt to be with me, the emails he'd send, the just thinking of you texts, the random gifts with sweet messages attached, making me a playlist with songs about how he feels about us (cheesy but very sweet ). Our dates weren't as "different" but his expressiveness was wonderful, while the more romantic guy, he was a little less expressive. As a creative soul I must say I do the thought out, unique dates of guy 1 and have the emotional expression of guy 2. My bread and butter is mostly in the written and spoken word. That's usually how I get women heavily interested in me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MissBee Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 As a creative soul I must say I do the thought out, unique dates of guy 1 and have the emotional expression of guy 2. My bread and butter is mostly in the written and spoken word. That's usually how I get women heavily interested in me. :love: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I dont think romance is dead. I'm a romantic person. I like candlelit nights with champagne. For me it's all about setting the mood. Ive dated guys, and for me walks at night on the beach or by the bay were very romantic. My only thing is, why bother with romance if relationships are so fickle? I've found a way around that, and now I get the appreciation I want. Link to post Share on other sites
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