Too many unattractive traits

[MrTurk]

Since my divorce in 2009, I have tried OLD and tried meeting women in person with little luck. Through my experiences, women have relayed to me traits that I have, that are deal breakers for them.

 

*Not tall enough* I'm 5'8 and it seems here in NE Ohio nobody wants a guy under 6ft

 

*Bald* I've been shaving my head for over 10 years...and even though every idiot follows the cliche, and you keep hearing women saying they think bald is sexy...I have been told over and over by women they dont date bald guys.

 

*No kids* I'm 42 with no kids. And I keep hearing time and time again how women assume 40yr old guys with no kids=weird or something is wrong. OR single moms want nothing to do with me because "I can never understand what they are going through"

 

*No college degree* Heard this one over and over too. For many women, they could care less that I own my home, own 2 cars, am almost debt free, and have had the same job over 10 yrs. For them, a guy without a degree is worthless.

 

*Non-religious* Another huge issue...most women wont even talk to me once they find out I'm non-religious.

 

So there you have it. A bald guy, that is 5'8, no degree, non-religious, with no kids.

 

Now some women may like bald....but no degree is a deal breaker.

 

Or a woman may not have a problem with a lack of a degree....but she wont date a guy thats non-religious.

 

In other words....they way I see it....the chances of me finding a woman that is willing to accept all 5 of those traits is going to be pretty tough.

 

THEN add in that even if a woman does accept them....she still has to find me attractive...AND like my personality.

 

Many people just think that I'm being pessimistic...and bitching when I bring this topic up....but I think I have a damn good argument.

 

 

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Edited August 9, 2013 by MrTurk

[MomsSpaghetti]

Short and bald equals death. Once you've stopped growing at a short height and you notice your hair thinning, that's the sound of the death knell.

[KathyM]

5'8" is not short. To most people, it's average height and won't be a dealbreaker. It's only a deal breaker to some women. Your lack of hair will be an issue to many women. If you can afford it, I would suggest hair implants to remedy that issue. Non religious/no faith would probably be an issue for many women who are seeking a LTR. 95%+ of women in America have some faith/belief in a higher power, and if you are an atheist, you may be limiting yourself to the 5% who have no beliefs/faith. Not that you should change your beliefs just to appeal to a greater percentage of women, but I'm saying that is going to be a dealbreaker for many women in the U.S. Never had kids by the time you are 40 could concern women who are mothers or want to become mothers, since it may indicate you are not the fatherly type or interested in becoming one. So yes, you do have several dealbreakers for women. I would suggest you work on the ones you can change, such as hair.

[MrTurk]

5'8" is not short. To most people, it's average height and won't be a dealbreaker.

 

 

Come to NE Ohio, and YOU argue with all the women here that disagree with you.

[MomsSpaghetti]

5'8" is not short. To most people, it's average height and won't be a dealbreaker. It's only a deal breaker to some women. Your lack of hair will be an issue to many women. If you can afford it, I would suggest hair implants to remedy that issue.

 

Well, this is probably the worst advice I've ever heard on LS. 5'8" is short. If you saw a 5'8" guy, the worst word that would probably come to your head is "short." True that the average U.S. male height is 5'9.5", but that statistic includes the Hispanic and Asian men, who are short. For a White guy, 5'8" is noticeably small.

 

Hair transplants? I doubt you've research them much. If he's completely bald on top, that will take about 4 sessions totalling $50,000, where he'll literally be scalped while he's awake (local anesthesia only) for a diffuse head of hair that looks fake and he'll need to continue to take hair loss drugs to try and keep it from dislodging.

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Well, this is probably the worst advice I've ever heard on LS. 5'8" is short. If you saw a 5'8" guy, the worst word that would probably come to your head is "short." True that the average U.S. male height is 5'9.5", but that statistic includes the Hispanic and Asian men, who are short. For a White guy, 5'8" is noticeably small.

 

g.

 

The average white male is 5"10' 5'8 hardly a midget who's so much shorter then the average male unless youre a pro sports player around all huge dudes.

 

Im between 5'7 and 5'8 and never had a problem with women, the op's height should not destroy his love life.

[ThaWholigan]

My little brother is 5 foot 6 and bald. Has girls all the time.

[MrTurk]

The average white male is 5"10' 5'8 hardly a midget who's so much shorter then the average male

 

I know that. I'm not the one that has a problem with my height. Its the women that do.

 

This traits listed in this thread have nothing to do with how I view myself, or my self esteem.

 

Its simply a list of what women have stated to me in their own words at one point or another, as deal breakers.

[Content]

I know that. I'm not the one that has a problem with my height. Its the women that do.

 

This traits listed in this thread have nothing to do with how I view myself, or my self esteem.

 

Its simply a list of what women have stated to me in their own words at one point or another, as deal breakers.

 

Hard for me to believe all these women said to you that youre too short for them while on a date

[KathyM]

Come to NE Ohio, and YOU argue with all the women here that disagree with you.

I've been to NE Ohio and know people who are from or have/are living in Ohio. It's no different there. Some women want tall men, some are perfectly fine with average height men. Not a dealbreaker for many women.

[MrTurk]

My little brother is 5 foot 6 and bald. Has girls all the time.

 

Thats a pointless comparison to my situation, my geography, my age, and everything else about me.

 

No where in this thread do I reference that all men that match my criteria have issues with women. No where in this thread do I state that all women have issues with me.

 

Yet being who you are.....you constantly prowl the forum on here....trying to discredit threads with your responses......responses that are painted with a wider brush than the thread itself.

 

You response is about as useful as telling someone that is complaining about how cold it is in Antarctica....that you have a younger brother in Fla and he says its warm there.

[MrTurk]

Hard for me to believe all these women said to you that youre too short for them while on a date

 

 

LOL on a date? I cant even get a date. This info has been relayed to me while on a dating site...or through friends of friends, or coworkers of friends.

[KathyM]

Well, this is probably the worst advice I've ever heard on LS. 5'8" is short. If you saw a 5'8" guy, the worst word that would probably come to your head is "short." True that the average U.S. male height is 5'9.5", but that statistic includes the Hispanic and Asian men, who are short. For a White guy, 5'8" is noticeably small.

 

Hair transplants? I doubt you've research them much. If he's completely bald on top, that will take about 4 sessions totalling $50,000, where he'll literally be scalped while he's awake (local anesthesia only) for a diffuse head of hair that looks fake and he'll need to continue to take hair loss drugs to try and keep it from dislodging.

Saying that 5'8" is not short is the worst advice you've ever heard on LS?

I'm married to a guy who is 5'8" and he has never had any shortage of women when he was dating, and has plenty of women interested in him now as well . Not a dealbreaker for many women, even the tall ones. I'm a tall woman, also 5'8", and I prefer a man close to my own height.

As far as hair transplants, I used to work with a guy who had that done, and it looked great on him. A full head of hair, which was very attractive. He was average height and kind of stocky, but that full head of hair was very attractive. It was just a suggestion, and something the OP can change if he wanted to and had the finances for, unlike some of the items on his list that he can't change. One of the physical features my sister was most attracted to with her new husband was also his full head of hair, since many middle aged men are balding. She put some value on that as far as appearance, so it may be worth considering. Just a suggestion. Don't kill the messenger.

[MrTurk]

KathyM, you are in a huge minority for not having an issue with a guys height. OR you are just trying to be nice on here(as I think many women do).

 

If you flat out asked many women you know....if they would date a guy that is 5'8...I truly feel many of them, if they do have an issue with height....would not divulge it to you.

 

I believe many women hide their superficial tendencies towards men from friends and family.

[MrTurk]

Saying that 5'8" is not short is the worst advice you've ever heard on LS?

I'm married to a guy who is 5'8" and he has never had any shortage of women when he was dating, and has plenty of women interested in him now as well

 

OK....but that one situation doesnt mean majority of women agree with you.

[MomsSpaghetti]

As far as hair transplants, I used to work with a guy who had that done, and it looked great on him. A full head of hair, which was very attractive.

 

He probably was one of those guys who simply got 1000 grafts to fill in some thinning on his temples. There's never been a totally bald guy who got back his full head of hair through transplants. Think about this logically. Is there enough hair on the back of your head to cover the entire top of your head?

[bentleychic]

 

*Bald* I've been shaving my head for over 10 years...and even though every idiot follows the cliche, and you keep hearing women saying they think bald is sexy...I have been told over and over by women they dont date bald guys.

 

*No kids* I'm 42 with no kids. And I keep hearing time and time again how women assume 40yr old guys with no kids=weird or something is wrong. OR single moms want nothing to do with me because "I can never understand what they are going through"

 

*No college degree* Heard this one over and over too. For many women, they could care less that I own my home, own 2 cars, am almost debt free, and have had the same job over 10 yrs. For them, a guy without a degree is worthless.

 

*Non-religious* Another huge issue...most women wont even talk to me once they find out I'm non-religious.

 

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Ummm...three of these are great in my book (I ONLY date bald guys! ) and the no college degree would not be an issue for me. You just haven't found the right girl, yet!

[Southern Cal Dude]

All those traits go out the window when the guy is good looking/rich/high status.

[KathyM]

He probably was one of those guys who simply got 1000 grafts to fill in some thinning on his temples. There's never been a totally bald guy who got back his full head of hair through transplants. Think about this logically. Is there enough hair on the back of your head to cover the entire top of your head?

He said he shaves his head. I don't know how much of an area is balding, nor do you, but it may be worth getting a professional opinion about as to whether the OP is a candidate for that.

[MrTurk]

Ummm...three of these are great in my book (I ONLY date bald guys! ) and the no college degree would not be an issue for me. You just haven't found the right girl, yet!

 

 

I am kind of leery about women that use that term "I love bald men".

 

It makes me feel like a woman that has large breasts. I feel like they just like me cuz of that 1 trait

 

 

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[xxoo]

Before meeting, people screen based on perceived negative traits. But in person, you have an opportunity to impress with your attractive traits. Get out there are charm some ladies, and you'll meet plenty of women who don't care about your height or your hairline, much less the other stuff.

[MrTurk]

He said he shaves his head. I don't know how much of an area is balding, nor do you, but it may be worth getting a professional opinion about as to whether the OP is a candidate for that.

 

 

This whole hair transplant topic can be flushed down the toilet....I would NEVER do anything like that for me or for a woman.

 

My melon is shaped great for bald

[MrTurk]

Before meeting, people screen based on perceived negative traits. But in person, you have an opportunity to impress with your attractive traits. Get out there are charm some ladies, and you'll meet plenty of women who don't care about your height or your hairline, much less the other stuff.

 

I have no charm. I'm not a smooth talker...I'm not one of those super cool witty wisecrack guys.

 

I am very athletic, but without the "jock" personality. I'm humble, considerate, and very much into astronomy, science, philosophy, and nature.

 

I have great traits for a relationship.....but that does me no good in getting a woman to notice me and buy into what I have to offer.

 

The problem in this world....is that most guys know how to bait their hook and catch a woman....but not how to keep her.

 

I know how to keep a woman, and treat her like she deserves.....but I dont have the qualities or know-how to bait and make her bite

 

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Edited August 9, 2013 by MrTurk

[xxoo]

I have no charm. I'm not a smooth talker...I'm not one of those super cool witty wisecrack guys.

 

I am very athletic, but without the "jock" personality. I'm humble, considerate, and very much into astronomy, science, philosophy, and nature.

 

I have great traits for a relationship.....but that does me no good in getting a woman to notice me and buy into what I have to offer.

 

Well, that's something positive to work on. You have a great product, but just need to tweak the advertising

[KathyM]

OK....but that one situation doesnt mean majority of women agree with you.

Actually, they do agree with me. If you'll read the summary of the study I posted below, women prefer men who are anywhere from their height to five inches taller than they are. That would mean that women 5'8" and below (the majority of women) would consider you to be in their accepted height range, if the study below is considered valid.

Romantic Height Preferences in Men and Women | Personality Research