OLD = Completely Pointless

[soccerrprp]

 

This is of course, you fit what they want, which is always COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC. ALL women on OLD sites want 9-10/10, ripped, 6'4+ guys that never want sex (unless they want it), don't watch sports, don't play video games, cooks, cleans, etc...

 

Pretty much, they are looking for a Nanny/Housemaid that looks like a taller, younger George Clooney that does exactly what they want them to.

 

Even the women that are physically a solid 3-5/10 expect ALL these qualifiers, not just some. It makes literally 0 sense whatsoever....

 

Good for you for trying to get yourself out there. OLD IS a way to do this, but admittedly not the most practical. If you have very little or no social skills knowing that they will be required when you do get a date, then you OLD is merely an illusion. Never the less, I had the same idea and OLD has been good for me.

 

BTW, ALL women are not ONLY looking for what you describe above. I come nowhere close to any of your descriptions of what you think ALL women ONLY want.

 

Good luck!

[Nik1]

Wow, for some reason when I get drunk and go surfing on these places, I receive more messages than I can handle. Too bad my POF account was deleted so soon after figuring out the secret.

[hppr]

So I finally kinda tried "OLD" sorta. I saw a profile for a girl that was very attractive just from photos. Nice face, body, skin and smile. However, I was over the age she wanted and I am not white...like she wanted, nor was I the religion she wanted and I am not 6'2"+ (she is 5'4'"!!) according to her profile. But I recognized from her pics and her description of her work.....where she works. Yep. I went down there Had to give it a shot. She is a hostess at a pretty cool restaurant. And I went there by myself. Ordered a "tuna sandwhich, no crust" (one of her favorite movies is fast and furious) as she was seating me. She did not connect on it. Just told me she'll go get my waitress. The waitress told me, it's not on the menu, but they could make it. It was actually a very good sandwhich and I don't even like tuna. They flourished it and added a bunch of other things to it. And cut off the crust. I might just have to go back there and get that sandwhich again.

 

HAHAHAHA

 

Yeah that kinda of sums it up.

 

I have tons and tons of stories from my online adventures I just don't know if I should share em. Frankly they aren't very nice and I think people here would get offended.

[Babolat]

A couple of years ago, I put a couple of fake female profiles on OLD. Yes, "she" got inundated with dozens of messages a day from horny men who typed like they had the brains of a preschooler and were dying for a sex fix.

 

I can understand how any woman who's even reasonably attractive would get tired of it in 5 minutes... I wouldn't want a bunch of tongue-lolling lechers chasing after me.

 

One of my female friends, who I think is very attractive, got over 80 emails her first day on match.

 

She narrowed it down to 2; met 1. It did not work out.

 

Guess what? She is now wondering why the men SHE contacts don't reply to her.

[Imported]

HAHAHAHA

 

Yeah that kinda of sums it up.

 

I have tons and tons of stories from my online adventures I just don't know if I should share em. Frankly they aren't very nice and I think people here would get offended.

 

Well, my intent was to show that even when women list all these things for online dating and even if you don't meet what they list, that in real life encounters, things are different. Kinda like, I may not know what I want, but when I see it, I know.

 

But she was a cold fish. I didn't really try anything, because I was expecting feedback. Usually I just show up and women are interested and I notice and then go off that. But she was blank.

 

In the hopes that it is because she is really shy and hides herself well, I will try again.

[hppr]

Well, my intent was to show that even when women list all these things for online dating and even if you don't meet what they list, that in real life encounters, things are different. Kinda like, I may not know what I want, but when I see it, I know.

 

But she was a cold fish. I didn't really try anything, because I was expecting feedback. Usually I just show up and women are interested and I notice and then go off that. But she was blank.

 

In the hopes that it is because she is really shy and hides herself well, I will try again.

 

No, her online profile is her fantasy self. Her real life self is a regular, average girl who is kinda short and waits tables. Once you realize this then you'll go "...oh, wow, ok" and all the BS experiences will make sense.

[neowulf]

My last few girlfriends have all been through online dating.

 

They were all wonderful women, each attractive and exciting in their own way.

 

Online dating is just a tool for meeting people. I figure I can enhance my chances by using it? Or I can just go hang out at a bar and try my luck.

 

If you're starting to burn out, take a break. But ultimately, getting angry at the gender you're trying to build relationships with is a waste of time.

 

Women want what men want. They may have different ways of going about getting it. Of approaching it. But at the heart of it, they want to meet someone and build a life with them. If they happen to want that person to be a 'great catch' in their minds? So be it.

 

I met my current girlfriend through online dating and she's one of the most wonderful people I've never met.

[El Brujo]

One of my female friends, who I think is very attractive, got over 80 emails her first day on match.

 

She narrowed it down to 2; met 1. It did not work out.

 

Guess what? She is now wondering why the men SHE contacts don't reply to her.

 

Ha ha, maybe either 1) the guys are too intimidated, or 2) they think she's just another guy pretending to be a woman.

[fallenheart]

 

I met my current girlfriend through online dating and she's one of the most wonderful people I've never met.

 

 

Was that a typo or were you being clever?

[neowulf]

Was that a typo or were you being clever?

 

Lol.. err.. Typo sorry.

 

Stupid fingers.

[MarvinWilliam1]

Thanks a lot friends for sharing your useful opinions and views i really appreciate it.

[Imported]

No, her online profile is her fantasy self. Her real life self is a regular, average girl who is kinda short and waits tables. Once you realize this then you'll go "...oh, wow, ok" and all the BS experiences will make sense.

 

 

She is actually pretty nice. I went back there yesterday and before I said anything, she asked ...tuna on white, no crust right? Looking really shy trying to be bold . I guess it just took her a while to figure things out. I just nodded and smiled. Talked with her for a bit and taking her out on Wednesday. Should be fun.

 

I can appear pretty negative in my postings, no doubt. But I don't look at women I like in that manner. I am not putting her on pedestal, but she is not just an average girl that is kinda short and waits tables.

 

 

edit: I will of course tell her I saw her online and read her profile. But I think she already suspects that.

Edited September 1, 2013 by Imported

[HappyLove]

She is actually pretty nice. I went back there yesterday and before I said anything, she asked ...tuna on white, no crust right? Looking really shy trying to be bold . I guess it just took her a while to figure things out. I just nodded and smiled. Talked with her for a bit and taking her out on Wednesday. Should be fun.

 

I can appear pretty negative in my postings, no doubt. But I don't look at women I like in that manner. I am not putting her on pedestal, but she is not just an average girl that is kinda short and waits tables.

 

 

edit: I will of course tell her I saw her online and read her profile. But I think she already suspects that.

 

 

Wow, hope the date goes great! Your confidence is impressive I wish more men were as confident!

[MrTurk]

It's just as ridiculous for women.

 

Once I created a profile looking for a fwb. My picture had my head cut off and centered on my chest ( I was wearing clothes, mind you.

 

I spent two days doing nothing but answering emails, getting sexy cam shows and pictures of penis (es?)

 

Men I originally sent emails to 'get to know them better' that remained unanswered were now sending me messages and at least half of those were trying to make it look like they had seen something interesting in my profile beyond fwb and boobs.

 

It's just as ridiculous for us.

 

LULZ

 

You created a profile advertising free sex on the internet what the hell did you expect?

 

There will always be those women that bait guys into doing things....and then spring the trap...yelling "see see...look at how dirty men are" trying to shame them in front of everyone.

 

It reminds me of the two morons that set guys up with the pinhole camera on the mini-skirt. One woman had a nice ass, and wore a very tight skirt....she hid a camera in the skirt to catch how many guys looked at her ass.

 

How f'n idiotic is that?? The same thing could be done to women....looking at men. But do you notice something....MEN never take time out of their day to prove stupid sh*t like that because we already know its true.

 

Yet CNN and a few other channels ran the story....because they KNOW most women eat that stuff up! Women love to get on their high horse, all gather together, and point out "bad" things that men do.....all the while...acting as if they are holier than thou

[Sith Apprentice]

It doesn't work because no attractive mentally sane woman is gonna go online trolling for men. She'll be out in the real world where she can get some real options. The only attention you're gonna get online is from these god awful single mothers who are fat and ugly.

[Shaun-Dro]

I started dabbling with OLD just to try to get myself out there and talking to people. I decked out a profile on a site, and started off feeling really good about myself just because I was reaching out and talking to people.

 

Until I realized absolutely nobody will respond for any reason whatsoever.

 

I take the time to really read through profiles. if I see I have a LOT in common with them (some of them we have so much in common it's borderline insanity) I will write them a message asking some questions about some of their stuff, letting them know what silly stuff in their profile made me laugh, and pretty much ending it off wanting to talk to them more for the sole purpose of getting to know them a bit better.

 

 

So pretty much I have realized that OLD is this humiliating event where men meander up to women like a court jester, and go "May I entertain you, my lord?" followed by us doing a short jig, and without a mere glance they wave their hand and we are thrown to the pits....

 

This is of course, you fit what they want, which is always COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC. ALL women on OLD sites want 9-10/10, ripped, 6'4+ guys that never want sex (unless they want it), don't watch sports, don't play video games, cooks, cleans, etc...

 

Pretty much, they are looking for a Nanny/Housemaid that looks like a taller, younger George Clooney that does exactly what they want them to.

 

Even the women that are physically a solid 3-5/10 expect ALL these qualifiers, not just some. It makes literally 0 sense whatsoever....

 

/rant

 

TL;DR - OLD seems pretty much pointless. Have any GUYS had success stories on them?

 

Online Dating is for the futile and the hopeless, period.

Edited September 3, 2013 by Shaun-Dro
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[oldskl]

OLD profiles need to be written by someone else.

 

I saw a lot of people I know on POF, and they are NOTHING like they read.

 

Even the photos are staged/old/photoshopped.

 

And that's just the ones I knew what they are like/look like before. Imagine the extents of everyone else...

[Rapunzelle]

Nearly everyone who has contacted me via OLD is 20 years older than me, unemployed, and lives with their parents.

When someone has come along that I'm actually interested in, I usually get stood up.

 

I don't know why men almost universally believe that women gets tons of messages from gret guys on these sites- we don't.

[El Brujo]

It doesn't work because no attractive mentally sane woman is gonna go online trolling for men. She'll be out in the real world where she can get some real options. The only attention you're gonna get online is from these god awful single mothers who are fat and ugly.

 

Tru dat!

 

IME not only are they fat and ugly, but they all have kids and want me to father more of them!!! Sorry, but that's not in my contract...

 

Seriously, though... I sometimes wonder if the OLDSs have been "astroturfing"---hiring ordinary men and women to go online and tell everyone "I met the love of my life through online dating"? I'd definitely do that, if I ran one of those outfits.

[marqueemoon4]

Around here women really overrate themselves and expect far more than they could ever offer. It really seems futile to even bother with it anymore.

[ZipperZapper]

Around here women really overrate themselves and expect far more than they could ever offer. It really seems futile to even bother with it anymore.

 

And on OKCupid, a lot of women write lengthy profile narratives that seem to be more of a monument to themselves than a meaningful statement about what they're prepared to offer a potential mate. Match is a bit better in this regard as users aren't given quite as much room to write.

 

But in general, OLD sucks badly unless you're very good looking or just very lucky.

[normal person]

It doesn't work because no attractive mentally sane woman is gonna go online trolling for men. She'll be out in the real world where she can get some real options. The only attention you're gonna get online is from these god awful single mothers who are fat and ugly.

 

I'm going to disagree with you there as this hasn't been my experience at all. I've met plenty of sane, well-educated, beautiful girls online. A lot of them realize it can be a lot more efficient than the crapshoot of going out to any random bar. With a search you can see who meets your criteria and focus your attention on them and not waste time with others who don't. It's just an extra avenue to explore. I think girls like it because it gives them an element of control to the process.

 

OLD seems pretty much pointless. Have any GUYS had success stories on them?

 

I've had quite a lot of success. I find OLD to be real fun. Granted, I do a good amount of vetting before I meet a girl just to make sure it won't be a waste of time; every girl I meet is up to par. That being said, you can't expect to like everyone you meet and vice versa but you can learn something from each interaction. If you're having trouble, I would suggest the following:

 

- Don't use free sites. People willing to pay are likely to take it more seriously.

- Make sure your profile is unique, funny, and very positive. No reluctancy or uncertainty like a "well I don't really know what to write..." preamble.

- If you're on Match, update your profile and pictures frequently because I think you get highlighted when you do. I changed some minor things around 10 days ago and I've gotten over 70 winks/messages/likes/favorites since then. Don't stagnate, keep it interesting.

- Keep your responses short and concise.

[SincereOnlineGuy]

I'm going to disagree with you there as this hasn't been my experience at all. I've met plenty of sane, well-educated, beautiful girls online....

 

I've had quite a lot of success. I find OLD to be real fun.

 

 

 

This from the only normal person on the net.

 

 

What about the rest of society??

[Disillusioned]

OLDSs have created their own fantasy parallel universes where all the men are rich and good looking, and all the women are pretty and available.

[TheBathWater]

It is possible to correspond with and meet a number of women from the internet without being the hottest guy.

 

For starters, I'm only 5'5" (maybe 5'6" on a good day), kinda thin, balding, and so not masculine at all. And just in the last couple of months, I've met around a dozen 'hot' women from OLD - and probably half of them emailed me first. To be fair, I am attractive to the extent that I take care of what I can control about my appearance, and I think that makes up for some of the other things like my height. But more than that, I wrote a killer profile, took photos that showed off my interests, have an interesting career, and knew how to market myself well (more on this in a sec).

 

I have done online dating before, and I don't know if it is just a change of the times or what, but I had almost as many women messaging me as I was them this time around. As a result, I wound up meeting around a dozen women from OkCupid in the last couple of months (and yes, they were all 'hot' by most men's standards).

 

If you really want to boost your OLD success, then you need more than good photos and an acceptably written profile. You need to learn to work the system so that you show up on women's computer screens and they click on you as often as possible. The way to do that is by logging in several times a day, constantly updating your profile, rotating photos, changing your taglines and screen name, and if you're on OkCupid, I recommend deleting all of your questions once a month and answering just 50-100 new ones (this changes your match percentage with women who might not have seen you previously). Sometimes, I even suggest deleting your profile altogether and copying and pasting it as a new profile (again, increasing your visibility in the 'whos new' searches). Above all, send short and thoughtful messages to women, and never too many at once since you will burnout and not feel as genuine when you write them (my limit was usually 3/day after browsing a couple dozen profiles). Rinse and repeat. That was my formula, and it worked for the purpose of increasing my received messages and in-person meetings.

 

But there are two sides to every coin...

 

If you are someone who is looking for a serious relationship, it is very, very difficult to find online. I have been doing it for years on various sites. I'm almost embarrassed to think about how many women I have met at this point.

 

Most meetings do not go beyond a first date. The meetings that make it to round two, most of those don't seem to last very long either...usually because the woman is attracting more attention online than the man, and thus has more potential mates to choose from than you do. In a culture of multi-dating, this becomes difficult for the man, because he does not have the time afforded to him to let a connection develop. In OLD (and perhaps even offline), people generally expect an instant connection, adventure, excitement, and if you can't keep it up and/or consistently beat out others she is seeing, your chances are tough. Relationships seems to have become less about 'relating' and more about gaining narcissistic supply, sadly.

 

I think for people who are just looking to get laid or are not really attached to any sort of outcome, it can be great for finding others. But if you know you are looking for a long-term relationship, it becomes very difficult. Not impossible. But very difficult. There are some good women on there who want the real thing too, but you are still facing a lot of competition.

 

Good luck.

Edited October 28, 2013 by TunaInTheBrine