ltjg45 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 So wait a minute!!!!!!!!!!! so some of you that think you dont need a degree will tell your kids to stay at home and will not push them to get a degree because you think they will make it anyway???????????????? because you did it?? As long as they are making whatever they need legally, I don't care if they get a degree or not. I'm going for a 4-year degree because that is what I desire. This was decided by my choices and no one else's. I will leave the same choice to my children if I ever have any. They will have freedom of choice and I will respect that decision regardless of the path they choose. So, no, I won't push them to get a degree if they don't want to. I can understand that going to college may not be for them and, frankly, considering how worthless college degrees is these days, it makes better sense to just go to a trade school instead. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Socks At Play Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I wouldn't immediately disqualify somebody based on that. College provided me with some decent fundamentals in my field and the piece of paper in the end helped me get my first job. The bottom line is though that most of the time and money I spent there had little application for my life or the real world. If somebody is a dumbass then spending four years at college isn't going to rid them of that problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 FYI Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Steve Jobs all dropped out of college. Link to post Share on other sites
tooslowatlove Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Absolutely I'd date someone without a degree. Education does not equal intelligence or personality. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Even though my brother is self made, it has always bothered him that he didn't go to Uni. Personally I am not too bothered as I think it would have been too much to have a partner linked say to my former career. H is an engineer and one off the brightest men I have ever met. Overall, my knowledge is context specific so if I don't care it doesn't exist. He knows a bit about everything! He is my quiz master. I like people that so it works for me. Take care, Eve x Edited August 27, 2013 by Eve Link to post Share on other sites
pink_sugar Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) I would prefer to date someone with a college degree, but I have and would date someone without one. However, looking back, I would not date someone without a stable job again. As long as they have a decent paying, reliable job/career, a degree doesn't matter. A degree doesn't always mean a decent job and unfortunately, the economy is partially to blame for that. However, there is that consideration that if they lost their job, lack of education would be a negative for many employers nowadays. I knew someone who made nearly 6 figures before being laid off...unemployed 5 years because she didn't have the degree to go along with the experience she had. Edited August 28, 2013 by pink_sugar Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Tenzo Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 However, looking back, I would not date someone without a stable job again. No one is saying you have to financially support the person - However, given the high and continuous unemployment rate throughout the nation, you should at least give them some consideration. Just because you're jobless doesn't mean you should be lonely too! Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Yes, I would date someone without a college degree. The majority of the people I've dated did not have one. I've got a bachelors and am going to pursue my masters. My significant other doesn't need to though. Link to post Share on other sites
pink_sugar Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 No one is saying you have to financially support the person - However, given the high and continuous unemployment rate throughout the nation, you should at least give them some consideration. Just because you're jobless doesn't mean you should be lonely too! That's true, but it would be hard to date if you're lacking resources and you don't want the other person to feel like they have to pay all of the time when you go out. No job is a turnoff for a lot of folks, because it means you're either probably living with mom and dad or roommates because you most likely don't have your own place. Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Tenzo Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 That's true, but it would be hard to date if you're lacking resources and you don't want the other person to feel like they have to pay all of the time when you go out. No job is a turnoff for a lot of folks, because it means you're either probably living with mom and dad or roommates because you most likely don't have your own place. Why is it only unacceptable in this country to live with roommates, mom, dad or anyone else? We have a non-family oriented backwards culture that needs to change. I can see if your roommates do drugs and are dirty and don't clean, or your mom is a nag or your dad is an alcoholic. It always boggled my mind since I've lived abroad and pretty much in every other society I've lived in you reside with family or extended family until after you got married. Our society is broken in more ways that one, but this is definitely an area for improvement.. Link to post Share on other sites
The Introvert Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Yes, I would date someone with no college degree so long we click intellectually and most importantly physically.Degrees are cool but sadly they won't gurrantee one financial security which is of utmost importance in a relationship.Life is so unpredictable that being too judgemental in this area may lead to disappointments......sometimes fortune favours 'fools'. Link to post Share on other sites
Mrlonelyone Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What I am looking for in a partner more than education is general intelligence. I could be with an artist of creative talent or a scientist like myself. They have to have confidence in their own abilities such that we can talk freely about what we both do and not feel threatened or inadequate about either of our levels. In my experience, for me, it only ever works at all if that person has been to at least some college or has some exceptional talent. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pink_sugar Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Why is it only unacceptable in this country to live with roommates, mom, dad or anyone else? We have a non-family oriented backwards culture that needs to change. I can see if your roommates do drugs and are dirty and don't clean, or your mom is a nag or your dad is an alcoholic. It always boggled my mind since I've lived abroad and pretty much in every other society I've lived in you reside with family or extended family until after you got married. Our society is broken in more ways that one, but this is definitely an area for improvement.. I'm definitely not against roommates. My dad had some and a few years later, saved up enough to buy their own homes. I guess what it comes down to is establishing independence, not necessarily that close-knit family ties are bad. Link to post Share on other sites
dallet66 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It depends I guess. But with my life and job I'm not likely to meet anyone without a degree. So it's moot Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I would totally date someone without a Degree. The smartest guy I ever dated was a mechanic. Link to post Share on other sites
Shepp Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'm genuinely surprised at a lot of the responses here. When I first read the title I grinned at the computer screen, thinking "Of course I would". ...maybe its different in England but I know a fair few people with degrees dating people without them...I actually know someone with a masters who's dating a lad who left school without GCSE's. I just don't think a piece of paper says anything about you - like in the couple I mentioned above that lad was bright as anything, he just didn't like school, he started his own business at 16 and is now a very successful man. My gf's at uni doing an English lit degree to go on and be a teacher, but I never went to uni, thou I could of got a scholarship for football because I made a conscious choice not to when I got the opportunity to join the fire service - that doesn't make me less intelligent than my gf its just a life choice. For me someones level of education doesn't come into it. Link to post Share on other sites
The Introvert Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 At times ,in society, I notice that the educated differ from the uneducated in as much as the dead from the living....there is a rift btwn the two......in terms of thinking, ways of doing things etc. I suggest when one makes a decision to date a person without a degree he or she must first find out why he/she doesn't have it......sometimes its due to dullness, sometimes its lacking money etc.....then weigh the reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Raye Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) I just find it more attractive if a woman has intelligence and likes to talk about something of substance, rather than talking about frivolous matters (such as celebs, partying, etc.). I fail to understand why some people equate no degree with being obsessed with celebrity gossip and sports. I am quite well-versed in history and geopolitics(I am only 22 so I don't claim to be an expert). What celebrities are doing are not even a passing thought in my day to day life. I don't go clubbing and partying is not even on my agenda, I would much rather curl up with a book and a cup of tea(Victor Hugo is one of my favorites, and no Twilight and 50 Shades of Gray are not on my radar. Please elaborate on this so-called "frivolous matter" I must be obsessed with. Plus, I'm generally looking for a marriage one day, and people that are more educated show to have a higher marriage success rates. There are also studies that show that offspring of divorced parents are more likely to have a failing marriage. My parents have been married 30 years and counting. My grandparents married at 14, and 16 and have been married for the past 70 years and neither was educated past 8th grade. Long term commitment is learned from example, maybe the "lets see how this works out" mentality is being passed on from parents. I guess I should begin leaving out men whose parents divorced. I would NEVER date someone w/o a degree. My education is a huge part of my identity, and I don't see where I'll share any commonalities with someone w/o one. You are entitled to hold that standard, just don't put down others and insult their intelligence or commitment to other aspects of life. My ex despised education, and it put a huge wedge in between us. We progressively diverged over time, valuing totally different things, developing different interests/hobbies, the whole deal. You know, you don't have to be educated or wealthy to enjoy wine tasting or ballet. I live in podunk USA and still manage to see a ballet or concert performance, and wine-tasting was my 21st birthday gift. Please elaborate on what hobbies your ex just couldn't understand. Edited September 3, 2013 by Raye Link to post Share on other sites
Pompeii Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 In two years time, I will be graduating from one of the top universities on the planet. I'm thankful for opportunities I've had here and the resources I have been able to obtain. But a college degree means nothing now a days. It means nothing. It is basically like getting a high school diploma. Everyone has one and it has been devalued where it is less valuable than water. The current college climate is a bubble that will burst in a couple years, just like the housing market. Every jackass has a degree now. It matters what you do with it. Most people will settle for being mediocre in every sense of the word and fall back on "but I have a degree". Even my degree won't mean much if I don't have anything behind it. But yes, I would gladly date/marry someone without a college degree. If anything, their head isn't full of superfluous pseudo-intellectual bull**** and they are more likely to know what is real and what is not. A college degree or a career doesn't make a woman attractive to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Pompeii Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 While I don't consider a college degree to be a requirement, I DO want a man with drive and desire to succeed. Often, making it through four or more grueling years of college imparts a sense of discipline, and shows you're somewhat motivated. But that's the only reason why it matters at all to me. Fair enough that you want a man with drive, but you're a fool if you think making it through 4 years of college imparts discipline. A lot of people simply coast through college doing the absolute bare minimum in easy majors at state schools. I know some friends at state schools and they say most people bull**** and don't take anything but partying seriously. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 They must have a masters degree if they want a relationship with me, but I'd probably sleep with them if they only had a bachelors. Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Fair enough that you want a man with drive, but you're a fool if you think making it through 4 years of college imparts discipline. A lot of people simply coast through college doing the absolute bare minimum in easy majors at state schools. I know some friends at state schools and they say most people bull**** and don't take anything but partying seriously. I've heard the "disciplined" argument for years, and I still laugh every time. I guess people who've worked hard and excelled in life/career without going to college just aren't disciplined. Link to post Share on other sites
Joyvke Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 My last 2 ex boyfriends only had college done. It didn't matter to me (bachelor myself). Sometimes it just doesn't fit people to go to school. As long as they don't bum out at home all day it doesn't matter to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Pompeii Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I've heard the "disciplined" argument for years, and I still laugh every time. I guess people who've worked hard and excelled in life/career without going to college just aren't disciplined. Some of the smartest people I've ever met have never even stepped foot on a college campus. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Moe'sTavern Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sure, I would. Link to post Share on other sites
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