Are a lot of women like this?

[Ryan R.]

I was reading an article on Forbes today. It was talking about the inability for millennial women to find datable men. Here's the article: Why Are So Many Professional Millennial Women Unable To Find Dateable Men? - Forbes

 

Her main premise was that she has "gorgeous, amazing, attractive" friends who supposedly can't find a man to date. These are women who got the dream job, live the dream life, and basically are doing better than average.

 

I found a lot of issue with some things the author brought up, such as screening out men who don't work white-collar jobs, with no consideration to shared values. Then I started to realize that a lot of the criteria that she brought up, I've heard before in one form or another from my female friends. I know a lot of them actively screen out men that don't meet certain (in my opinion) superficial criteria. For example, the guy isn't tall enough, he has the wrong color hair, he had the wrong major, etc. They have a right to do that but I feel as if its a bit unfair to certain guys.

 

I just wanted to ask, do a lot of women have these extremely high standards for guys (6 foot +, six figure salary by 30, nice car, white-collar job, list goes on)? I live in New York now, which is the city in the article and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm unmarried by the time I reach 40 if this is the case.

[fortyninethousand322]

I'm in DC. I've seen some of this. One girl I went to high school with wants to get married but she wants a man her age, who makes more money than her. A tall ordeal since she makes almost six figures at 25. I'm attracted to professional women myself, which is unfortunate since I happen to be a pretty big loser in that regard.

 

On the other hand, I know people who aren't successful professionals who are dating. One of my good friends runs her own art business and is dating a fellow "starving artist", both of them live with their respective parents.

 

So it's interesting. I think a lot of women are dating older men and that's a way to solve the problem I guess.

[Phoe]

 

I just wanted to ask, do a lot of women have these extremely high standards for guys (6 foot +, six figure salary by 30, nice car, white-collar job, list goes on)?

 

I wouldn't say a LOT of women do, but some do. Some do, some don't. I personally don't, and don't personally know any women who do.

[tbf]

You should have seen my 4' laundry list when single. Luckily, I met hubby who met every criteria and more.

[Ryan R.]

Any other opinions?

[StanMusial]

I was reading an article on Forbes today. It was talking about the inability for millennial women to find datable men. Here's the article: Why Are So Many Professional Millennial Women Unable To Find Dateable Men? - Forbes

 

Her main premise was that she has "gorgeous, amazing, attractive" friends who supposedly can't find a man to date. These are women who got the dream job, live the dream life, and basically are doing better than average.

 

I found a lot of issue with some things the author brought up, such as screening out men who don't work white-collar jobs, with no consideration to shared values. Then I started to realize that a lot of the criteria that she brought up, I've heard before in one form or another from my female friends. I know a lot of them actively screen out men that don't meet certain (in my opinion) superficial criteria. For example, the guy isn't tall enough, he has the wrong color hair, he had the wrong major, etc. They have a right to do that but I feel as if its a bit unfair to certain guys.

 

I just wanted to ask, do a lot of women have these extremely high standards for guys (6 foot +, six figure salary by 30, nice car, white-collar job, list goes on)? I live in New York now, which is the city in the article and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm unmarried by the time I reach 40 if this is the case.

 

I feel sorry for them. Only a fraction of them will find someone that checks all the boxes. And only a fraction of the fraction will actually like that someone.

[Betterthanthis13]

I think there are definitely plenty of women who fit the criteria described in the article.

 

Is that the type of woman you want?

[Betterthanthis13]

You'd think with all of their education and smarts these women would be able to figure out why an appreciating asset would opt out of signing a contract binding himself to a depreciating asset.

 

LOL cute, and moderately offensive- but on the sly. Clever! Good job

[tbf]

You'd think with all of their education and smarts these women would be able to figure out why an appreciating asset would opt out of signing a contract binding himself to a depreciating asset.

If by appreciating asset you mean eroded motility and DNA in sperm and higher levels of autism within progeny, then this would be accurate.

[Maleficent]

Why do people feel the need to tell women to lower their standards?

 

Succesful, rich men with big jobs get to have their super model type girlfriends don't they?

[Betterthanthis13]

This seems pretty normal to me. Most women in the US have entitlement issues.

 

I wouldn't worry though. Just hit on whoever you want and have fun with them.

 

I've seen firsthand that being married to these kinds of women (even if you meet the criteria) is no picnic anyway (though they will swear that it is the best thing that ever happened to the guy).

 

Even if they were sweethearts, marriage is a bad idea for men anyway. Consider yourself lucky.

 

Traditional marriage in the US is a rotten deal in general. For women and for men. It is mainly useful for people who truly want to live in the suburbs have babies and raise more entitled superficial children. Otherwise the idea is totally unrealistic in my opinion. I can see the value of a marriage certificate in regard to tax breaks on housing or for social staus or whatever but aside from that? What's the point

[Betterthanthis13]

If by appreciating asset you mean eroded motility and DNA in sperm and higher levels of autism within progeny, then this would be accurate.

 

Eroded motility... I might die laughing

[ltjg45]

Why do people feel the need to tell women to lower their standards?

 

Succesful, rich men with big jobs get to have their super model type girlfriends don't they?

 

1. The main keyword here is "girlfriend", not "wife". I'm sure the women you get these guys and yet hasn't got the ring yet is just as frustrated, if not more frustrated, than those who are single for so long.

2. There clearly isn't enough men that meets these women's career standards, hence why despite they are so "successful", they are still single and lonely. Which is funny because, outside of a few issues, a person's career standards has little reason as to why a relationship is typically breaking apart.

 

So unless they lower their standards, they will simply get more of the same results they are experiencing right now. If they are fine with that, more power to them.

[Betterthanthis13]

1. The main keyword here is "girlfriend", not "wife". I'm sure the women you get these guys and yet hasn't got the ring yet is just as frustrated, if not more frustrated, than those who are single for so long.

2. There clearly isn't enough men that meets these women's career standards, hence why despite they are so "successful", they are still single and lonely. Which is funny because, outside of a few issues, a person's career standards has little reason as to why a relationship is typically breaking apart.

 

So unless they lower their standards, they will simply get more of the same results they are experiencing right now. If they are fine with that, more power to them.

 

Ugh "they".... So offensive

 

More women graduate from college now than men. That's just a fact . Why the offhanded comments toward women? Why not be supportive and thrilled that women can do awesome things? Do you really want to go back to a time where the norm is that women are in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant? Why?

 

Women should lower their standards? What? How about men raising the bar? Stop whining and do something interesting.

[Maleficent]

1. The main keyword here is "girlfriend", not "wife". I'm sure the women you get these guys and yet hasn't got the ring yet is just as frustrated, if not more frustrated, than those who are single for so long.

2. There clearly isn't enough men that meets these women's career standards, hence why despite they are so "successful", they are still single and lonely. Which is funny because, outside of a few issues, a person's career standards has little reason as to why a relationship is typically breaking apart.

 

So unless they lower their standards, they will simply get more of the same results they are experiencing right now. If they are fine with that, more power to them.

 

 

No. Men want women to lower their standards because they don't want to put in the work to meet those standards.

 

Today's men as winny and lazy (thanks to feminazies)

[Maleficent]

Ugh "they".... So offensive

 

More women graduate from college now than men. That's just a fact . Why the offhanded comments toward women? Why not be supportive and thrilled that women can do awesome things? Do you really want to go back to a time where the norm is that women are in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant? Why?

 

Women should lower their standards? What? How about men raising the bar? Stop whining and do something interesting.

 

 

I love you fellow derby person ;-)

[ltjg45]

Ugh "they".... So offensive

 

More women graduate from college now than men. That's just a fact . Why the offhanded comments toward women? Why not be supportive and thrilled that women can do awesome things? Do you really want to go back to a time where the norm is that women are in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant? Why?

 

No, I'm completely fine with women being self-sufficient. I don't have an issue with it whatsoever.

 

However, if these women realize that, due to the fixed number of jobs, there is more women taking up these jobs that could be shared by both men and women, this will automatically declined the number of men who would have these jobs, thus lowering the number of men that would meet these women's expectations that they are willing to date.

 

So I do find it a bit ironic when these "highly successful" women is almost always lonely and I read an article concerning it, expecting things to change for them.

 

If I were to look for a partner, one of the lowest "requirements" I will look for within her is her career status/financial standing. That does very little when it comes to finding an healthy, lasting relationship.

 

Women should lower their standards? What? How about men raising the bar? Stop whining and do something interesting.

 

Let's take, for example, that I do get to an financial standing good enough to meet these women's requirements, which is a goal that I am aiming for but will take at least 5 years to reach.

 

I can tell you right now that I still wouldn't want to date them. Their financial status means nothing to me. Their ambition will take too much away from the relationship unless they are capable of balancing it and, if I were to make an assumption, I would came to the conclusion that they can't pull it off.

 

There is no reason for me to get into a relationship with a woman who is so ambitious to the point where I end up alone more often than not.

[ltjg45]

No. Men want women to lower their standards because they don't want to put in the work to meet those standards.

 

Today's men as winny and lazy (thanks to feminazies)

 

And I can make the same assumptions that women want men who are "equals" so that once she has children, she can keep enjoying the lifestyle she wanted with far less work from her in the near future. It's more like an retirement check, as one person on Forbes mentiones, which makes a crap ton of sense.

 

This is one good reason why men go after less ambitious women.

[tbf]

Eroded motility... I might die laughing

If sperm aren't strong enough to swim or wriggle through the ovum wall, babies don't happen. This includes the leg up vaulting capabilities of ejaculation. If a man can only drop a shot put on his foot, he's not going to win the genetic olympics.

[Betterthanthis13]

If sperm aren't strong enough to swim or wriggle through the ovum wall, babies don't happen. This includes the leg up vaulting capabilities of ejaculation. If a man can only drop a shot put on his foot, he's not going to win the genetic olympics.

 

True. Also---Nobody has yet even qualified for the motility Olympics however, if the shot put ejac is wasted on the hand.

[Ryan R.]

I think there are definitely plenty of women who fit the criteria described in the article.

 

Is that the type of woman you want?

 

Obviously not, but in New York, it seems like these types of women are everywhere. Not in New York even, it just seems as if there's tons of women out there who have almost-unrealistic standards for guys while giving little in return.

[Betterthanthis13]

And I can make the same assumptions that women want men who are "equals" so that once she has children, she can keep enjoying the lifestyle she wanted with far less work from her in the near future. It's more like an retirement check, as one person on Forbes mentiones, which makes a crap ton of sense.

 

This is one good reason why men go after less ambitious women.

 

There is no issue with men going after "unambitious" women. It's a good strategy for a man that wants to be a KISA and provider- I would recommend they do exactly that. Why not?

 

Taking care of a child however- is not "far less work" than working at a career. I've done both and been successful at both and i can say objectively--the mom gig is, by far, much more difficult.

[Ryan R.]

I just also want to make it clear that there is nothing wrong with having standards. I encourage everyone to maximize the opportunities that they can in life and to shoot for their dreams. However, if you're looking for a man that works a white collar job, has a PhD, makes six figures, drives a certain type of car, lives in a certain area, is 6' +, has very specific physical characteristics, then you must accept that you will probably be alone for a while if not indefinitely if you do not choose to expand your criteria in what you are looking for in a partner. That seems like part of the territory. If your standards are so specific, then you in my mind, have no reason to complain.

[JourneyLady]

Women should lower their standards? What? How about men raising the bar? Stop whining and do something interesting.

 

Yes, please. Something other than muscle cars, motorcycles and sports.

Can you spell H-O-B-B-Y?

Most OLD profiles don't list any other than those top three occasionally.

sigh...

[Ryan R.]

Marriage is a good idea, in general. It's partially what helped us bring our society to its peak, both in terms of economy and standard of living.

 

Unfortunately, since the sexual revolution, it's a terrible idea (in this country anyway).

 

You're right, marriage did help modern society develop but it was mainly a contract forged out of necessity and the desire for control. Men created marriage but it seems that women idolize it (at least in America). Women don't really need men for much except procreation now a days and even that's not necessarily true. There's sperm banks. So yeah, it is kind of a bad deal for guys.