Are a lot of women like this?

[JustSomeoneHurt]

lots of people are entitled, not just women. Although women are sometimes entitled about different things than what men feel entitled for.

 

And marriage isn't always a picnic for women either. Especially in today's day and age where we are suppose to have successful "careers" plus take care of the kids and maintain awesome, sexy hot bodies still.

 

I can't disagree with this more. Women aren't raised to feel entitled. Some people, both men and women, are raised with a silver spoon in their mouth. By and far the vast majority of women are raised to please others, disregard themselves, and accept large quantities of abuse. Reading some of these replies is just disheartening at best.

[NXS]

I can't disagree with this more. Women aren't raised to feel entitled. Some people, both men and women, are raised with a silver spoon in their mouth. By and far the vast majority of women are raised to please others, disregard themselves, and accept large quantities of abuse. Reading some of these replies is just disheartening at best.

 

Well if you read the article these women most definitely feel entitled, according to them men should be lining up to marry them on their timeline because that's what they deserve, and they better be the right type of men too.

 

Now if this article was about a bunch of men bragging about their success and then lamenting the fact that they couldn't get the hot sexy woman they deserve, then (assuming it ever got past the editor's desk) they would be ripped apart. They would be told to get over it, they're not entitled to have a woman, they should drop their standards and quit whining. When the sexes are reversed it's somehow ok for women to say essentially the same thing.

 

They are entitled to have their standards of course, but if it's not working out then should either drop their standards or quit whining. The world is not going to revolve around their desires.

[tbf]

Or better yet, quit whining and be patient.

 

Now if this article was about a bunch of men bragging about their success and then lamenting the fact that they couldn't get the hot sexy woman they deserve, then (assuming it ever got past the editor's desk) they would be ripped apart. They would be told to get over it, they're not entitled to have a woman, they should drop their standards and quit whining. When the sexes are reversed it's somehow ok for women to say essentially the same thing.

Well it's a good thing you read all the posts in this thread prior to passing judgement!

[JustSomeoneHurt]

Now if this article was about a bunch of men bragging about their success and then lamenting the fact that they couldn't get the hot sexy woman they deserve, then (assuming it ever got past the editor's desk) they would be ripped apart. They would be told to get over it, they're not entitled to have a woman, they should drop their standards and quit whining. When the sexes are reversed it's somehow ok for women to say essentially the same thing.

 

They are entitled to have their standards of course, but if it's not working out then should either drop their standards or quit whining. The world is not going to revolve around their desires.

 

I constantly hear men whining about how they can't get a nice girl and all the girls they meet are bitches. And these are the same vindictive spiteful men who will do some stupid crap behind a woman's back. How's that so different from your article? It's life and it happens. And men are always whining about how their woman "let herself go," constantly judged for her looks and nothing more. And women are constantly told to drop their standards from looking for a decent guy with a decent job and a decent personality to accepting that "all men look" or "all men cheat" or "stand by your man no matter what."

 

Is it the article that pisses you off or do you miss the real-life double standard that occurs every day?

[carhill]

I just wanted to ask, do a lot of women have these extremely high standards for guys (6 foot +, six figure salary by 30, nice car, white-collar job, list goes on)? I live in New York now, which is the city in the article and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm unmarried by the time I reach 40 if this is the case.

 

Perhaps a bit too specific and overreaching for my demographic but living here for 54 and being educated privately with the 'ruling class' of the local economy, perhaps the gist of the comment has some traction. I'll never really know for sure if I was dismissed for such cause over the 20 or so years I dated or approached here, but have enough anecdotes to support at least some reason to believe the predominant standards were above my pay grade. Now far down the road in life, I'm fine with that. IME, the problems are the same; it's just the numbers/specs which are different. I'm good with that.

[NXS]

I constantly hear men whining about how they can't get a nice girl and all the girls they meet are bitches. And these are the same vindictive spiteful men who will do some stupid crap behind a woman's back. How's that so different from your article? It's life and it happens. And men are always whining about how their woman "let herself go," constantly judged for her looks and nothing more. And women are constantly told to drop their standards from looking for a decent guy with a decent job and a decent personality to accepting that "all men look" or "all men cheat" or "stand by your man no matter what."

 

Is it the article that pisses you off or do you miss the real-life double standard that occurs every day?

 

There is no real-life double standard except in your head. I constantly hear women belittling their husbands/boyfriends, how useless they are and how they deserve better. It works both ways.

 

You are the poster claiming that women don't have any sense of entitlement on a thread started about an article about a bunch of women who most definitely do have a sense of entitlement. Then you make all sorts of other exaggerated claims about how women look after themselves last, how they're told to just settle for whatever they can get with no basis whatsoever, again except in your head. If the sexes in this article were reversed then the men would have been torn to shreds for their attitude, which undermines everything you are claiming here.

[ltjg45]

Raising a child takes at least 18 years. The first 10 can be more time consuming but the hardest "work" is actually their teenage years. Go find a 15 year old and try to teach him or her to make good decisions, have a positive attitude, have self confidence, and think for themself- while the outside world around her is constantly giving her every reason not to. That's the hard work. Not diaper changing. Earning the respect of a teenager and keeping it is a monumental task for a parent

 

That's just it: That should be worked on the moment a child can start thinking for himself/herself (whenever that may be), not by some bar like age or grade level the child is in.

 

This world is very unforgiving. Kids these days has access to stuff only adults can be seeing and information flies around way too easily. I have seen 14-year old more sexually active than me and I'm 26!!! Personally, I wouldn't even wait an extra day if there is a lesson a child can learn immediately that he/she NEEDS to learn.

 

Another issue that I have quickly noticed is that parents these days just doesn't spend enough time with their children. I think the people who is reporting it is undermining the effect of it. Parents these days spend basically NO time with their children that would help accelerate their growth. I'm one of them and I got the most overall treatment from my parents out of all 4 boys my mother has created.

 

So, yeah, I do agree: That is hard work however I can't help but to say the way an average parent handles this situation is typically incorrect considering the situation this world is in. The number of entitled and selfish teenage kids that whine constantly within Wal-Mart each day while I'm at work reminds me of this over and over again. It's quite heart-breaking to even see this and I made a resolve that, if I ever have children, I will do all I can that they won't go down this very same path.

[JustSomeoneHurt]

There is no real-life double standard except in your head. I constantly hear women belittling their husbands/boyfriends, how useless they are and how they deserve better. It works both ways.

 

You are the poster claiming that women don't have any sense of entitlement on a thread started about an article about a bunch of women who most definitely do have a sense of entitlement. Then you make all sorts of other exaggerated claims about how women look after themselves last, how they're told to just settle for whatever they can get with no basis whatsoever, again except in your head. If the sexes in this article were reversed then the men would have been torn to shreds for their attitude, which undermines everything you are claiming here.

 

I didn't realize there was an expert on "my head" on LoveShack

 

It does work both ways, but who are YOU to judge? I made it very clear I have a firm opinion on the matter, but again, who are YOU to judge? Whatever your experiences are are your own, and judging by your attitude towards "my head," which you seem to be fascinated with, it isn't a surprise why your friends get their butts bossed around by their women. Doesn't seem like you have much to offer except insult, you deserve to have your ass handed to you

 

At least I have history to back me up on my "claims." Just open a history or a psychology book and you'll have all the evidence you need. Were men forced to cover up and stay at home, and it was "unmanly" to go out in public? Did men have at least 1 mistress while married? Are men expected to take their wife's name? Where is the exaggeration? Ohh man I sure hope whoever you are with beats your dumb ass to shreds for sure. You deserve it 10000 times over.

[Woggle]

I constantly hear men whining about how they can't get a nice girl and all the girls they meet are bitches. And these are the same vindictive spiteful men who will do some stupid crap behind a woman's back. How's that so different from your article? It's life and it happens. And men are always whining about how their woman "let herself go," constantly judged for her looks and nothing more. And women are constantly told to drop their standards from looking for a decent guy with a decent job and a decent personality to accepting that "all men look" or "all men cheat" or "stand by your man no matter what."

 

Is it the article that pisses you off or do you miss the real-life double standard that occurs every day?

 

That's funny because I was the one who was told to get over my ex wife cheating because I was just getting a taste of my own medicine even though I never cheated on a woman in my life.

 

Both genders have their crap.

[NXS]

I didn't realize there was an expert on "my head" on LoveShack

 

It does work both ways, but who are YOU to judge? I made it very clear I have a firm opinion on the matter, but again, who are YOU to judge? Whatever your experiences are are your own, and judging by your attitude towards "my head," which you seem to be fascinated with, it isn't a surprise why your friends get their butts bossed around by their women. Doesn't seem like you have much to offer except insult, you deserve to have your ass handed to you

 

Trust me I have no fascination whatsoever with your head, apart from the fact that it's making absurd statements that need to be addressed.

 

At least I have history to back me up on my "claims." Just open a history or a psychology book and you'll have all the evidence you need. Were men forced to cover up and stay at home, and it was "unmanly" to go out in public? Did men have at least 1 mistress while married? Are men expected to take their wife's name? Where is the exaggeration? Ohh man I sure hope whoever you are with beats your dumb ass to shreds for sure. You deserve it 10000 times over.

 

No you have a distorted view of history which can easily be disputed but that's another topic altogether.

 

The fact is you claimed that women don't have any sense of entitlement on a thread which is discussing an article about a bunch of women whom most certainly do have a sense of entitlement. Instead of backing up your claim you're now resorting to insults and condoning physical violence. Nice one, I bet you're a real classy woman.

[carhill]

Both genders have their crap.

 

Yep, and, sincerely, there's no reward at the end of life for sanitizing it. Those who randomly and wantonly judge, and the judged, end up in the same place. Dead.

 

I'm reminded of a great line from 'Saving Private Ryan', by a soldier who was saved in every way a man can be saved, posed to his wife of many decades.

 

'Did I live a good life?'

 

I hope those who are the topic of this thread can ask that question of their life partner at some future date and feel positive about the answer.

[Pompeii]

I don't know your family situation but it sounds difficult and I'm sorry to hear about that.

Raising a child takes at least 18 years. The first 10 can be more time consuming but the hardest "work" is actually their teenage years. Go find a 15 year old and try to teach him or her to make good decisions, have a positive attitude, have self confidence, and think for themself- while the outside world around her is constantly giving her every reason not to. That's the hard work. Not diaper changing. Earning the respect of a teenager and keeping it is a monumental task for a parent

 

I'm going to agree with this. I've talked to a lot of parents and they say each phase of a child's life has its own challenges. However, the most daunting is definitely the teenage years. You can only do so much to raise children properly. The most you can do is send them out and hope something sticks.

[Pompeii]

And as far as those bloodsucking harpies in the article go, those are the type of women that men like my friends and myself will have our way with and throw out like the Sunday paper in a couple years time. By the way things are going, unless something ****s up, I will be a millionaire by the time I am 30. My friends/business associates and I will be graduating from one of the top universities in the world. I'm 6 foot 2. I'm on my way to being 200 lbs of solid, dry muscle. I already make more money on my own than a lot of entry level jobs. I'm white.

 

I've pretty much met every criteria these women ask for and more. Yet, I see no value in any type of long term association with these women. I only surround myself with people who can give value to my life and appreciate my assets. What do I have to gain from marrying one of these women? Nothing, I gain nothing. I would marry a dirt-poor farm girl in Oklahoma before I ever marry one of these women.

 

These women think having high paying jobs and closets full of clothing are attractive. I laugh at them. I don't care what job you have. I don't care if you have the latest designer fashions. Would you make a good mother? Do you have reasonable judgment? Are you fun to talk to? Are you pleasant to be around? The answer to all of the above is a resounding "no". These are the types of women that my friends love to laugh at after they've had sex with them.

Edited August 25, 2013 by Pompeii