Seeing a whale tail and breaking the ice.

[irc333]

Okay, with all these "nice guy" threads, some people mention that it's better to be a "Nice guy....with an edge" is what turns women on. That way you're not as boring. I'm getting close to that point when becoming more "edgy" with women in public, but it may be at a certain risk of being creepy, too.

 

An example I was at the department store the other day shopping around....I hear this "clock, clock, clock. clock" coming closer and closer and it grabs my attention and I see this beautiful woman, hair pulled all back in a bun, tight pair of jeans and in high heels.

 

I'm seeing her pass me and she gets a few more feet down the isle, stops....and then squats down.

 

Low and behold....I see a good amount of "Whale tail"...she's got an obvious thong exposed...and this my perfect opportunity to say.

 

"I see London, I see France, I see a pretty girl's underpants! LOL"

 

She looks up at me, makes a weird face, but kind of smirks, grabs her product, and walks briskly off.

 

Keep in mind, I usually keep my mouth quiet around women when I see stuff like that or don't say anything at all, because the town I live in is mostly filled with people already involved in serious relationships or married. Chances are that could've been the case, but who knows.

 

So that was that.

 

I mean, I could've said tons of other things that could've been more creative or less obvious.

 

But anyhow, is there anything inherently creepy about using an innuendoish comment as part of a flirt when you see a woman exposing her thong?

[Forever Learning]

"I see London, I see France, I see a pretty girl's underpants! LOL"

 

She looks up at me, makes a weird face, grabs her product, and walks briskly off.

 

 

Did you really say that?

 

Dr. Phil always says "How's that workin for ya?". I really like Dr. Phil. He's a fellow Texan.

 

I do give you big props for trying to flirt. That's the biggest hurdle, just making the first step.

 

I'll bet there are books (or even threads around here) about how to flirt.

 

Another option could have been, to ask her a sincere question about the products she was looking at/buying.

 

Unless it was thongs. Too risky to ask questions or make comments about thongs.

 

Oh wait, nevermind, too late.

Edited August 24, 2013 by Forever Learning

[Forever Learning]

When you start talking about a strange woman's panties -- in whatever capacity -- it becomes creepy.

 

Nothing about that signals to the woman you're interested in anything but sex.

 

 

Awesome advice right there! I hate your signature (it reminds me of a snuff film.....), but I love your advice. Always golden, good stuff!

Edited August 24, 2013 by Forever Learning

[irc333]

the woman is intentionally showing a lot of skin or undergarments for public display

 

Apparently, doesn't necessarily have to be at a nightclub or such a venue.

 

Well, to be honest, I think there is a actual style where women actually where a thong where it's deliberately exposed.

 

I was sitting among friends at a "movie in the park", I knew most of them and one of the hot female friends was in front of me.

 

The top part of her thong was obviously exposed, and my female friend was a friend to her was trying to get her attention to "pull her pants up" and I waved to her, jokingly and whispered "NO, don't do that!" and my female friendly laughed and gave up trying to get her attention to pull her pants up.

 

I later told my friend "Yeah, she's doing that on purpose to get attention, don't tell me she isn't"

 

And it wasn't a SLIGHT amount where you know how you sometimes just see the top elastic band, that's one thing, but when you see almost ALL of it, well that's another. LOL

 

If Dr Phil asked me, "How's that been workin' for ya?" and It'd be like that scene in Karate Kid where Mr Miagi says, "Dunno....first time!" LOL

 

I think I might turn over a new leaf and may be so bold when the opportunity calls for it.

 

Now, I think I'd be stepping over the line if I grabbed the elastic and snapped it back. LOL!

 

 

When you start talking about a strange woman's panties -- in whatever capacity -- it becomes creepy. I know a lot of guys have trouble differentiating between being bold and being creepy but there are some things pretty much universally known as 'no-nos' when it comes to flirting. That's one of them. That other thread with the guy who claims he broke the ice with a girl by remarking on her awesome body could've gone either way as well but that's a bit more tame in comparison.

 

I was going up a staircase wearing a skit in my apartment building not too long ago and a guy below me whom I'd just passed by remarked that he "always loved a woman in white panties." I told him to keep his eyes to himself and kept walking.

 

Unless you're in a bar/club setting and the woman is intentionally showing a lot of skin or undergarments for public display and consideration, it is generally always best to stay away from such subjects. Nothing about that signals to the woman you're interested in anything but sex.

[irc333]

Another option could have been, to ask her a sincere question about the products she was looking at/buying.

 

Hm, what kind of question could I ask about Lady Speedstick?

[SoleMate]

Again, unlike what the Department of Homeland Security says about suspicious activity, just because you can SEE something doesn't mean you have to SAY something.

Ha ha! Agreed.

 

Some of those people may be deliberately exposing underwear, but others are just careless dressers or perhaps being victimized by poorly designed underwear or clothing that isn't staying where it was put. Calling attention to that can make you look like.....a creep.

[Els]

Okay, that did crack me up.

 

I don't think it was hugely wrong, it's just.... not likely to get you the highest chances of success, really. Except perhaps with a very select subset of women, and even that ONLY if you have a certain type of swagger and charisma to pull it off. And, uh, I hate to say this, but from what I've read of you here, you'd be better off sticking to more... safe methods? I mean, dude, the rhyme sounded like what a bratty kid in elementary school would say to a female classmate...

[irc333]

I mean, dude, the rhyme sounded like what a bratty kid in elementary school would say to a female classmate...

 

hm, maybe next time I'll tap dance to my one-liner?

[Betterthanthis13]

LOL this thread is funny.

 

If I was buying deodorant at CVS and bent over and my thong was accidentaly showing over my jeans, and some guy I dont know popped out and sang that London and France thing- ummmmm I don't know! I would be surprised, maybe a little embarrassed at my wardrobe malfunction. It wouldn't inspire me to have a conversation with him no matter what he looked like. A for effort though lol

 

Ok. if you want to pick up women in the drugstore (btw---why? But anyway moving right along)

 

Next time you see a pretty girl- try "Hello" or "Excuse me" and ask a question. "Do you mind if I ask you a question? Do you think I should buy this blah blah blah for my niece for her birthday? She's 15."

 

Or something like that. She will probably know you are trying to hit on her, but most people will be polite and at least answer your question. If she's interested she will hang around and talk to you and you can ask her name etc. get her phone number.

 

If she's not interested she wil probably answer your question and then walk away. Don't take it personally. Maybe she has a bf or you just aren't her type or whatever. (Or she feels weird getting hit on in the drugstore. Some other guy just told her what a hot mama she was at the gas station 10 minutes ago. And this morning the guy in line at Starbucks turned all the way around and was babbling about it being hump day.)

 

Just keep in your head--Ok, no problem. Next..

 

I don't think cold approaching random women is a great way to get dates- but I think what i said is your best shot if this is your preferred method of finding women.

 

Have you considered joing a social group of some kind to meet women?

[irc333]

Next time you see a pretty girl- try "Hello" or "Excuse me" and ask a question. "Do you mind if I ask you a question? Do you think I should buy this blah blah blah for my niece for her birthday? She's 15."

 

I've actually done that a few times, does not work with me. I recall around the holidays that I was ordering some coffee from a Barista in a bookstore.

 

As I was waiting for her to manufacture my coffee, another woman was waiting in line behind me.

 

As I stepped aside and waited for my coffee, she placed HER order too, and she stood there waiting.

 

She had ordered the "Pumpkin Spice" and I never had that coffee flavor.

 

And I Said to her, "Pumpkin Spice, I never had that, what's that like and how does it taste?"

 

SHe looks at me then back up ahead and goes, "It's good" and nothing more...went silent after that.

 

That's when it got awkward and I said, "So, get your Christmas shopping done?"

 

And she says, "No" and continues to look forward, retrieves her coffee and leaves.

 

Seems small talk didn't work, but some women..maybe it's boring. In my area , maybe it's geography, but they aren't opened to being approached sometimes.

[Betterthanthis13]

I've actually done that a few times, does not work with me. I recall around the holidays that I was ordering some coffee from a Barista in a bookstore.

 

As I was waiting for her to manufacture my coffee, another woman was waiting in line behind me.

 

As I stepped aside and waited for my coffee, she placed HER order too, and she stood there waiting.

 

She had ordered the "Pumpkin Spice" and I never had that coffee flavor.

 

And I Said to her, "Pumpkin Spice, I never had that, what's that like and how does it taste?"

 

SHe looks at me then back up ahead and goes, "It's good" and nothing more...went silent after that.

 

That's when it got awkward and I said, "So, get your Christmas shopping done?"

 

And she says, "No" and continues to look forward, retrieves her coffee and leaves.

 

Seems small talk didn't work, but some women..maybe it's boring. In my area , maybe it's geography, but they aren't opened to being approached sometimes.

 

That is not evidence that asking questions doesnt work.

 

That is evidence that it didnt work THAT TIME. Do it 100 more times and if it works once- it is successful. Plus I don't think I have ever been to Starbucks without getting hit on. Look at it from the other perspective (the woman's) and don't take it so personally. Maybe she was in a relationship and meeting her boyfriend after she got her coffee. Maybe her dog just died. On to the next girl...

 

Also your question was not asking for advice- that is another difference from my example. In my example you ask her to help you choose something- not ask her personal questions right off the bat. Does that make sense?

[KathyM]

The problem with cold approaches is that you don't really know the relationship status of the women you are approaching. Some may be married or in a relationship and not be interested. Some may not be interested in talking to strange men in general. That's not to say that you shouldn't try to strike up a conversation with whomever you see in public that you are interested in, unless they are obviously married (always check the ring finger before approaching), but you need to develop your approach lines. Now THIS is where PUA may be helpful. Normally, I think PUA is lame, and the negs and strategy is lame, but some of those pick up lines are rather solid. What you said, in this case, was juvenile and not likely to get you anything more than a slap or a look of disgust. No underwear comments to a total stranger. And asking about a product is also kind of lame IMO. You need to develop your pick up lines more. I would suggest doing some research/reading on the subject, and then practicing them out in public to see what works for you.