I cheated on my husband

[manticore]

I understand if you want nothing with him for the physical altercation, but if you can overcome that please read this, it will help you to understand what your husband is going through (users for other forum redacted it)

 

Understanding Your Betrayed Spouse - A quick reference manual for unfaithful partners.

 

The Sea of Stress is Difficult to Understand.

 

YOU BETRAYED YOUR PARTNER. NOW COMES THE FALLOUT.

 

They discovered your adultery. You ended the affair and promised you’ll never cheat again. But the stress from their emotional devastation lingers. And you don’t see much change – at least, not as much positive change as you expected. Many times, any visible changes are for the worse. You observe them bouncing back and forth like a ping-pong ball, moment to moment, from one emotion to the next. They’re unpredictable. There’s no discernable pattern. Their nerves are frayed. They can’t sleep. They can’t eat. Their thoughts are obsessive. Intrusive visions and flashbacks assault them without warning. They cry at the drop of a hat. They feel empty, used up, exhausted. The stress consumes their energy and their life until they feel like there’s nothing left. It’s terrible.

 

It’s an ordeal for you to witness their tortured, depressed and angry states, and what’s worse; you don’t know what to do. You’re not alone. Unfaithful spouses never dream they’ll get busted, so when confronted with their adultery they’re always caught by surprise; first by their partners’ knowledge, then by their intense agony. Indeed, unfaithful partners never think about what they’ll face “after” until after. The fact is: Though they inflict it, adulterers are unprepared for the onslaught of their spouses’ overwhelming emotional distress. Is this real? Is this permanent?

 

As you watch them sink lower and lower, wallowing in an emotional abyss, you wonder where the bottom is, when they will hit it, and if they will ever ascend from it and return to “normal.” You ask yourself, “Is this real?” Then you ask, “Will this ever end?”

 

The simple answers are: Yes, it is real. And, yes, it will end. But recovery takes a long time, often years, and much depends on you. Can you be remorseful, apologetic, loving, patient, empathetic and soothing over an extended period of time? Can you commit to openness and honesty at all times – and forevermore being faithful to your spouse?

 

Be honest with yourself: If you can’t or don’t want to get over your affair, if you don’t feel shame and remorse, and if you can’t generously provide appropriate support to your spouse, then now is the time to consider ending your marriage and spare your marital partner further pain. (If this is the case, you need not read any further.)

 

But if you have put the affair permanently behind you, if you feel and can freely express your remorse and shame for your unfaithfulness, and if you can commit to supporting your spouse through their excruciating anguish, then you have an excellent chance of rebuilding from this disaster you’ve wrought to a happy, satisfying, caring and loving marriage. The following is intended to help you help your partner, and in turn yourself, through this horrible time and jumpstart your journey to recovery.

 

So, take a couple of deep breaths… and let’s start with three foundational facts:

 

What you’re seeing in your spouse is a normal reaction to a life-changing event.

 

Your spouse needs to grieve for as long as it takes in order to recover and heal.

 

You can be a positive influence on their recovery.

 

Now, go back and reread them several times. Let them really sink in. When you can repeat them without looking, continue.

 

Your first mission is to learn.

 

Learning about your partner’s myriad reactions to your betrayal allows you to recognize, understand and properly respond to them as they occur. Doing so will help you get through

this horrible initial stage, which can last a long time.

Below you’ll find a little of what your spouse is probably experiencing. They may shift from one reaction to another, or they could experience multiple reactions concurrently. And don’t be surprised if they return to previous states many times. Where applicable, we’ve added some tips to help you to assist your partner through this. In some cases, however, there may be little for you to do except to simply “be there.”

 

Most importantly, remember at all times: Your infidelity has traumatized your spouse. Act accordingly.

 

SECTION 1 - THE WILD PATCHWORK OF EMOTIONS

 

DISBELIEF: They expect to wake up any minute from this nightmare. It can’t be true. They don’t believe it. This is natural. They trusted you and don’t want to believe you did what you did. It is common for this to occur in the very first moments of discovery. (Note: If some time elapsed between the discovery of your affair and the confrontation, you may have missed this when it happened, but it is also possible for your spouse to return to disbelief.)

 

SHOCK: They are numb and often seem dazed. Their emotions are frozen. Their senses are dulled. They go through the motions mechanically, robotically, but can’t seem to apply sufficient concentration to their day-to-day lives.

 

REALITY: “Oh my God. It really happened.” They feel they’re getting worse. Actually, reality has just set in. It’s as if a ton of bricks just fell on them and they’re buried beneath them. They don’t know where to turn, or can’t. Don’t discount the likelihood that they feel shamed by your infidelity. So, they may be reluctant to seek support from friends and family. Be available to them for emotional support and encourage them to talk freely with anyone they choose. Suggest therapy as a means to help them through their trauma, but never accuse them of “being irrational” or “acting crazy.” Be supportive and encouraging. Commend them for seeking help.

 

CONFUSION: They’re disoriented. They can’t think straight. They become impatient, disorganized and forgetful. More frequently than usual they go to a room to retrieve something, but once they get there they can’t remember what it was. This is very upsetting to them. Bear with them. Be gentle and be helpful. Help them find their misplaced purse or locate their lost keys. Know that they will eventually come out of the fog. Also be aware that their confusion, as with other states listed here, may be set off or magnified by certain “triggers.” (Note: Read more about “triggers” below.)

 

PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS: They may sleep or eat too little – or too much. They may suffer physical aches and pains, numbness or weakness. They may feel unusually tense and develop headaches, abnormal tics, twitching or shaking. They may feel sick to their stomach and vomit, or their digestive system may react with constipation or diarrhea. Weight loss is common. Usually the symptoms fade gradually. If these symptoms persist, make sure they check with a doctor to rule out other causes. Encourage them to eat well and to exercise – but don’t nag. You might instead take control of their diet by preparing healthy, well balanced meals. If you don’t cook, take them to restaurants where you know they serve nourishing food and, if necessary, order for them. If they’re not exercising, initiate taking long walks together. It’s a good way to ease them into a healthy exercise regimen, which is always a good stress reliever, and will provide opportunity for you to begin constructively re-establishing your “couplehood.”

 

CRYING: Deep emotions suddenly well up, seeking release as crying, uncontrollable sobbing and even screaming out loud. Allow them their time for tears. They can help. So can you. When they cry, give them your shoulder. Hug them. Help them through it by gently encouraging them, to “get it all out.” Be certain to verbalize your remorse for causing their pain. They need to hear this from you. (Note: Right now, genuine, complete and repeated apologies are the best “general use” tool you have in your repair kit. That is why you’ll see many more references below. Read “Apologize” in Section 2.)

 

SELF-CONTROL: They control their emotions to fulfill their responsibilities, or to simply rest from the pain. Self-control can shape and give rhythm to their grieving, but be on the lookout for constant and rigid self-control. It can block healing. They need to reduce their emotional pressure to regain equilibrium. Allow them to vent when it happens. Be aware: Too much self-control means they are storing up much anger and will release it powerfully, like floodwaters breaking through a dam. So don’t be alarmed if they suddenly lash out at you, your affair partner, or even themselves. Understand that the release of anger is necessary to heal. Though it may not feel this way to you when it happens, it’s beneficial.

 

NEED TO KNOW: They will ask lots of questions. Their curiosity may be insatiable or it may be limited. Different people have different needs and tolerances for information, but they need information to process their trauma, move through it, and move past it.

 

Let them set the agenda. Whenever they ask a question, whatever they ask, answer honestly and sufficiently. Refusing to answer gives the appearance that you’re still keeping them in the dark, that you still have something to hide. Do not hold anything back. If they discover later that you omitted or hid details, or if the facts they discover don’t match the story you tell, they’ll feel betrayed once again. Follow the delivery of each new piece of hurtful information with an apology, and soothe them with another promise that you’ll never again be unfaithful.

 

WHY: They ask, “Why did you do this?” They may or may not expect an answer, but they ask repeatedly. If they do want an answer, provide it – and answer honestly. Even if the question is rhetorical, be aware that the question itself, rhetorical or not, is a cry of pain. And each time they feel pain, it should be answered with another apology. (I can’t stress enough how important this is.) Be aware: Even if they are not verbalizing this to you, they are still silently asking the question “Why?” over and over and over again.

 

INJUSTICE: They feel it’s all so unfair. You invited danger, you took the risk, but they suffered injury. They want justice and begin to think like a vigilante. They may harbour a secret desire to do harm to you or your affair partner. They may want to get even by having a “revenge affair.”

Understand that the aftermath of your unfaithfulness is an agony you have thrust upon them. Meanwhile, despite your betrayal and deceit, and the shame you feel, you and your affair partner may retain fond or even loving memories of your affair. One of my patients described her feelings of injustice this way: “I feel like a rape victim watching helplessly as the jury returns a ‘not guilty’ verdict. Then, the assailant looks at me, points his finger at me and laughs all the way out of the courtroom. How can this possibly happen?”

 

A sad truth of infidelity is: It is unfair. Of course, there is no “justice” that can come from this. Betrayed spouses generally settle into this realization on their own, but they need to know that you understand how this plagues them. (Note: Read “Share your feelings of guilt and shame” in Section 2. It explains the best way to help them through their sense of injustice.)

 

INADEQUACY: Their self esteem is shattered. They feel belittled, insignificant, and often even unlovable. Just as you would crumple a piece of scrap paper and toss it in the garbage without a second thought, they feel you crushed them, discarded them, and didn’t give them a second thought, either. So, they question their own value. They wonder if you truly love them – or if anyone could. They need to know why you now choose them over your affair partner, even if they don’t ask. Make your case convincingly. Be generous, but be genuine. They’ll know if you aren’t, and false flattery for the purpose of mere appeasement will only hurt them more.

 

REPEATING: Over and over again, they review the story, thinking the same thoughts. Do not attempt to stop them. Repeating helps them to absorb and process the painful reality. You can help them get through it by answering all their questions truthfully and filling in all the gaps for them. The more they know – the more they can repeat the complete story – the faster they process it, accept it and begin to heal. If the story remains incomplete or significant gaps are filled in later, they may have to start the process all over again.

 

IDEALIZING: Sometimes they remember only good memories, as if their time with you was perfect. They long to live in the past, before the affair came along and “messed it up.” Assure them that you, too, remember the good times, and want things to be good again. Remind them that you want an even better future, that you are willing to work at it, and, most importantly, that you want your future with them – and not your affair partner.

 

FRUSTRATION: Their past fulfillments are gone. They haven’t found new ones yet and don’t seem interested in finding any. They feel they’re not coping with grief “right” or they feel they should be healing faster. They don’t understand why the pain returns again and again. They wonder if they will ever recover and feel better. You can help them by verbalizing what they need to hear even if you don’t or can’t fully understand it yourself. Be empathetic and assure them that under the circumstances they’re doing okay. Remember that despite how much you have hurt them, you are still the one they chose as their life partner, for better or for worse. You may still be their closest confidante. As incongruous as it may seem, don’t be surprised if they choose to confide in you over others.

 

BITTERNESS: Feelings of resentment and hatred toward you and your paramour are to be expected. Don’t be surprised if they redirect much of the anger that’s really meant for you toward your paramour. This is natural. It’s actually a way of protecting their love for you during the early stages. By restricting their anger toward you, they allow it to be time-released, and only in smaller, more manageable amounts. Expect their anger to surface periodically, and give them plenty of time to work through it so they can eventually let go of it. Understand that until they’ve worked through and exhausted their anger, they cannot heal.

 

WAITING: The initial struggle is waning, but their zest for life has not returned. They are in limbo, they are exhausted and uncertain. Indeed, life seems flat and uninteresting. They are unenthused about socializing, perhaps reluctant, and they are unable to plan activities for themselves. Help them by finding ways to stimulate them. Plan activities for them around things that hold their interest and bring joy back into their life.

 

EMOTIONS IN CONFLICT: This is one of the most difficult manifestations because there is so much going on at the same time and their feelings do not always synchronize with reality. The most succinct description was provided by the late Shirley Glass, PhD: “One of the ironies of healing from infidelity is that the perpetrator must become the healer. This means that betrayed partners are vulnerable because the person they are most likely to turn to in times of trouble is precisely the source of their danger.” The inherent conflict for a betrayed spouse is obvious, but Dr. Glass also recognized how difficult this balancing act can be for a repentant adulterer: “On the other hand, [unfaithful] partners sometimes find it hard to stay engaged with their spouses when they know they are the source of such intense pain.” The key, of course, is to stay engaged nonetheless. Be supportive and remorseful, and above all… keep talking.

 

TRIGGERS: Particular dates, places, items and activities can bring back their pain as intensely as ever. It feels like they’re caught in a loop as they relive the trauma. It is emotionally debilitating.

 

Triggers can cause days and nights of depression, renew anger, and can spark and reignite nightmares, which may make them fear sleeping. Triggers can cause them to question if they will ever again experience life without the anguish. Get rid of all the reminders immediately: Gifts, letters, pictures, cards, emails, clothing… whatever your spouse associates with your affair. Do this with your spouse so they are not left wondering when those triggers may recur. Never cling to anything that bothers your partner. It leaves the impression that your keepsakes and mementos, or any reminders of your affair, are more important to you than they are.

 

Attend to your partner. Learn what dates, songs, places, etc., are triggers for your partner. Pay attention to your environment: If you hear or see something that you think might be a trigger, assume it is. Each occasion a trigger arises is an appropriate moment for you to communicate a clear and heartfelt message that you’re sorry you acted so selfishly and caused this recurring pain. So again, apologize and let them know how much you love them. The occurrence of a trigger is also a good opportunity to express that you choose them and not your affair partner, which is important for them to hear. If a trigger occurs in public, you can still wrap your arm around your spouse’s waist or shoulder, or simply squeeze their hand, but verbalize your apology as soon as you are alone again.

 

It is very important for you to understand and remember this… Triggers can remain active for their entire life. Don’t ever think or insist that enough time has passed that they should be “over it” because another sad truth of infidelity is: Your affair will remain a permanent memory for them, subject to involuntary recall at any time – even decades later. They will NEVER be “over it.” They simply learn to deal with it better as they heal, as you earn back their trust, and as you rebuild your relationship – over time.

 

SECTION 2 - WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO TO EASE THEIR PAIN & RELIEVE THEIR STRESS?

 

Make certain you’ve killed the beast: Your affair must be over, in all respects, completely and forever. You cannot put your marriage in jeopardy ever again. Your spouse has given you a second chance that you probably don’t deserve. That may sound harsh, but think about it this way: Despite any marital problems the two of you experienced, you would certainly understand if they divorced you solely because of your adultery. So assume there will not be a third chance and behave accordingly.

 

This opportunity you have been bestowed is a monumental gift, particularly considering the anguish you caused them. Treat this gift, and your spouse, with care and due respect: No contact means NO CONTACT OF ANY KIND – EVER.

 

GET INTO THERAPY: Most attempts to heal and rebuild after infidelity will fail without the assistance of a qualified therapist. Make certain you both feel comfortable with the therapist. You must trust them and have faith in their methodology. Talk about it: If of you are uncomfortable with your therapist at any time, don’t delay – find another. And if need be, yet another. Then stick with it. Save particularly volatile topics for counselling sessions. Your therapist will provide a neutral place and safe means to discuss these subjects constructively. Every so often, think back to where you were two or three months earlier. Compare that to where you are now and determine if you’re making progress. Progress will be made slowly, not daily or even weekly, so do not perform daily or weekly evaluations. Make the comparative periods long enough to allow a “moderate-term” review rather than “short-term.” Expect setbacks or even restarts, and again… stick with it.

 

APOLOGIZE: Actually, that should read: “Apologize, apologize, apologize.” You cannot apologize too often, but you can apologize improperly. Apologize genuinely and fully. Betrayed spouses develop a finely calibrated “insincerity radar.” A partial or disingenuous apology will feel meaningless, condescending or even insulting, particularly during the months following discovery. Your spouse will feel better if you don’t merely say, “I’m sorry.” To a betrayed spouse that sounds and feels empty. Try to continue and complete the apology by saying everything that’s now salient to your partner: “I’m ashamed I cheated on you and I’m so very sorry. I know that my lying and deceiving you has hurt you enormously. I deeply want to earn back your trust – and I want so much for you to be able, some day, to forgive me.” As noted earlier, right now genuine, complete and repeated apologies are the best “general use” tool you have in your repair kit.

 

REALIZE YOUR PARTNER WANTS TO FEEL BETTER: There is so much they have to deal with – pain, anger, disappointment, confusion and despair. Their being, their world, is swirling in a black hole of negative feelings. It’s agonizing. They wish it would stop, but they feel powerless to make it go away, which worries them even more. Remember that they can’t help it: Just as they didn’t choose for this to happen, they don’t choose to feel this way. Beyond all the possible feelings described in the section above (and that list may be incomplete in your spouse’s case), even if they don’t understand them, they do recognize that changes are occurring in themselves – and they are frightened by them. As terrible as it is for you to see their ongoing nightmare, it is far worse to live in it. Periodically assure them that you know they will get better, that you are willing to do everything necessary for them to heal and to make your marriage work. Reassure them that you are with them for the duration – no matter how long it takes – and that you intend to spend the rest of your life with them.

 

HIDE NOTHING, OPEN EVERYTHING: While they’re greatly angered and hurt that you were emotionally and/or sexually involved with another person, they are even more devastated by your secret life, your lies and deception. They feel no trust in you right now – and they’re 100% justified. If ever there was someone in the world they felt they could trust, it was you – until now. Now, they have difficulty believing anything you say. They are driven to check up on everything. Let them. Better still, help them. Overload them with access. The era of “covering your tracks” must end and be supplanted by total and voluntary transparency.

 

You must dismantle and remove every vestige of secrecy. Offer your spouse the passwords to your email accounts – yes, even the secret one they still don’t know about. Let them bring in the mail. If you receive a letter, card or email from your paramour, let your spouse open it. If you receive a voice or text message on your cell phone, let them retrieve it and delete it. If your friends provided alibis for you, end those friendships. Do not change your phone bill to a less detailed version or delete your browser history. Provide your spouse with your credit card bills, bank account statements, cell phone bills and anything else you think they might wish to check. Immediately tell them if you hear from or accidentally run into your affair partner. Tell them where you are going, when you’ll be home, and be on time. If your plans change, notify them immediately.

 

The more willing you are to be transparent, the more honesty and openness they see and feel, the more “trust chits” you’ll earn. Replacing your previously secret life with complete openness is the fastest and most effective way to promote trust, even if it feels unfair or uncomfortable. Think of this as the “reverse image” of your affair: Your affair was about you selfishly making yourself feel good. Now, rebuilding trust is about selflessly making your partner feel safe with you – and you were certainly unfair to them. Keep in mind that eventually they will trust you again, but you must earn it and it will take time.

 

SPEND LOTS TIME WITH THEM: Assume that they want your company at all times. The more time you spend in their sight, the more they will feel a sense of safety, if only for that time. There may be times when you feel they’re a constant, perhaps even an annoying presence. Just remember that they need to be around you – more than ever. If they need time alone, they’ll let you know and you must respect that, too. Knowing where you are and who you are with reduces worry, but expect them to check up on you. Don’t take offence when this happens. Instead, welcome the opportunity: Think of each time – and each success – as receiving a check mark in the “Passed the Test” column. The more check marks you earn, the closer you are to being trusted again.

 

PHYSICAL CONTACT: They may or may not want to be sexual with you. If not, allow sufficient time for them to get comfortable with the idea of renewed intimacy and let them set the pace. But if so, don’t be discouraged if the sex is not optimum. They’re likely to be low on confidence and may feel self-conscious or inept. They may even act clumsily. This can be offset by lots of simple, soothing physical gestures such as hugging them, stroking them softly and providing kisses. You might try surprising them sexually. Try something new. Choose moments when they don’t expect it – it can feel fresh again. On the other hand, don’t be surprised if their sexual appetite and arousal is unusually heightened as some partners experience what’s called ‘Hysterical Bonding.’ Also be aware that during lovemaking they may suffer intrusive thoughts or mental images of you and your affair partner, so they may suddenly shut down or even burst into tears. Again, apologize for making them feel this way. Express that you choose them – and not your affair partner. Reassure them by emphasizing that they are the only one you truly want.

 

SHARE YOUR FEELINGS OF GUILT AND SHAME: If you exhibit no shame or guilt for hurting them, they’ll wonder if you’re truly capable of being sensitive, caring or even feeling. They may see you as callous and self-absorbed, and question if it’s really worth another try with you. But if you’re like most people who have badly hurt someone you truly love, then you certainly feel shame and guilt, though verbalizing it may be hard for you. Of course, some people do find it difficult to express these feelings, but try. You’ll find it provides a great sense of relief to share this with your partner. Moreover, do not fail to realize is how vitally important it is for your partner to hear it, to feel it, to see it in your eyes. It’s a building block in the reconstruction of trust and the repair of your marriage. Do not underestimate the power of satisfying their need to know that you are disappointed in yourself. Your opening up about this will help them feel secure again, help them to heal, and help you heal, too.

 

LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOUR CHOICE TO RECOMMIT: You probably think this is obvious, but to your betrayed partner, precious little is obvious anymore. They will wonder about this. Do not make them guess, and do not make them ask. Just tell them. If it doesn’t seem to come naturally at first, it may help if every now and then, you ask yourself, “If they had betrayed me this way, would I still be here?” (Most of us would answer, “No,” even if we can’t imagine being in that position.) When people give second chances to others, they really want to know that it’s meaningful to, and appreciated by, the recipient. So, express your thanks. Tell them how grateful you are for the opportunity to repair the damage you’ve done and rebuild your marriage. You’ll be surprised how much this simple, heartfelt act of gratitude will mean to them, and how it helps to re-establish the bond between you.

 

HERE’S A GREAT TIP: You will find it’s particularly meaningful to them when they’re obviously feeling low, but they’re locked in silence and aren’t expressing it to you. Just imagine… In their moments of unspoken loneliness or despair, you walk up to them, hug them and say, “I just want you to know how grateful I am that you’re giving me a second chance. Thank you so much. I love you more than ever for this. I’ve been feeling so ashamed of what I did and how much pain I caused you. I want you to know that I’ll never do anything to hurt you like this – ever again. I know I broke your heart and it torments me. I want you to know your heart is safe with me again.”

 

These are beautifully comforting words, particularly when they’re delivered at such a perfect

moment. You can memorize the quote, modify it, or use your own words, whatever is most

comfortable for you. The key is to include, in no particular order, all six of these components:

 

A statement of gratitude.

 

An expression of your love.

 

An acknowledgment of your spouse’s pain.

 

An admission that you caused their pain.

 

An expression of your sense of shame.

 

A promise that it will never happen again

 

Unfaithful spouses I’ve counselled often report that this most welcome surprise is the best thing they did to lift their partner’s spirits – as well as their own.

 

SECTION 3 - SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STAGES, AFTER THEY WORK THROUGH ALL THEIR GRIEF, PAIN AND STRESS?

 

HOPE: They believe they will get better. They still have good days and bad days, but the good days out balance the bad. Sometimes they can work effectively, enjoy activities and really care

for others.

 

COMMITMENT: They know they have a choice. Life won’t be the same, but they decide to actively begin building a new life.

 

SEEKING: They take initiative, renewing their involvement with former friends and activities. They

begin exploring new involvements.

 

PEACE: They feel able to accept the affair and its repercussions, and face their own future.

 

LIFE OPENS UP: Life has value and meaning again. They can enjoy, appreciate, and anticipate events. They are willing to let the rest of their life be all it can be. They can more easily seek and find joy.

 

FORGIVENESS: While the memory will never leave them, the burden they’ve been carrying from your betrayal is lifted. Given what you have done, the pain it caused them and the anguish they lived through, this is the ultimate gift they can bestow. They give it not only to you, but to themselves. Be grateful for this gift – and cherish it always.

 

Rejoice in your renewed commitment to spend your lives together in happiness. Celebrate it together regularly!

[peruano99]

What a good response man, but I don't think Kate and her husband need to be together again. Two damaged people=complete disaster.

[Chi townD]

You said don't judge you Katie? I'm gonna be judgmental. You lied to us. You didn't stop contact with Jason. Now, you're telling us that you think you might be falling for him? That tells me that you've been seeing him and sleeping with him. Which also tells me that you never maintained NC at all!

 

I'm very disappointed. I was totally pulling for you. I bought into your remorse and felt desire to help you. Only to discover that I wasted my time.

 

Sorry, Katie there's nothing else I can offer. If you think you and Jason will blissfully stroll into the sunset, you got another thing coming to you. Your relationship won't last because the foundation of the relationship was built on the pain of others.

[silicone]

She doesn't deserve a man that puts his hands on her in a violent way and bruises her either. Staying with a cheater and working it out doesn't include getting assaulted. None deserved each other. I got very little sympathy for the husband at this point.

 

At the same token, men shouldn't be with women who totally rips their hearts out, causing such an emotional distress resulting in physical motion.

[thummper]

Beautifully put, Chi Town! I get the sinking feeling that she suckered us all in with her "poor me" act. I think they deserve each other. For all that I hated what Ben did by hurting Katie physically, maybe he'll be better off without her and his betraying friend in his life. Now the two new "friends" and "lovers" can go on and build a wonderful new life together based on love and trust. (And if you believe that, I've got a great deal on a bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in.)

[samsungxoxo]

At the same token, men shouldn't be with women who totally rips their hearts out, causing such an emotional distress resulting in physical motion.

If he was suffering so badly, the right choice would have been to file for divorce and never contact her again but instead he goes for trying to work it out and hits her. Now he doesn't have the high grounds of being called the better person nor man of great caliber anymore.

 

I still believe Kate probably had prior intention of working on her marriage but changed her mind as soon as the assault took place. Basically, the husband just indirect gave her an excuse to cheat by doing that. Maybe she did that in revenge.

Edited December 23, 2013 by samsungxoxo

[Chi townD]

If he was suffering so badly, the right choice would have been to file for divorce and never contact her again but instead he goes for trying to work it out and hits her. Now he doesn't have the high grounds of being called the better person nor man of great caliber anymore.

 

I still believe Kate probably had prior intention of working on her marriage but changed her mind as soon as the assault took place. Basically, the husband just indirect gave her an excuse to cheat by doing that. Maybe she did that in revenge.

 

How do we even know he hit her? How do we know she's not lying about that too? She very well could be rewriting the martial history to justify leaving her husband in her head so she would be okay for running off with his best friend.

 

She pretty much outted herself when she wrote that she's falling for this guy. Sorry, but you don't "fall in love" with a guy you had a one time fling with. That tells me that she carried on an affair AFTER the first time.

 

Her credibility is shot with me.

[manticore]

If he was suffering so badly, the right choice would have been to file for divorce and never contact her again but instead he goes for trying to work it out and hits her. Now he doesn't have the high grounds of being called the better person nor man of great caliber anymore.

 

I still believe Kate probably had prior intention of working on her marriage but changed her mind as soon as the assault took place. Basically, the husband just indirect gave her an excuse to cheat by doing that. Maybe she did that in revenge.

 

sure because cheating can be excused under certain circumstances right?, No:mad:, my GOD this double standard rules that women impose now days really amaze me.

 

so according to you "If he was suffering so badly, the right choice would have been to file for divorce and never contact her again" but the right choice for her is not "divorcing and never contact him again" instead, now cheating again as you said is justified for what he did.

 

double stadard rules

 

I am guessing that in the other hand katte's husband had have a revenge affair you would be saying that he is a b*stard and is totally injustified, while you are excusing her current actions.

[FrankieFrank]

How is physical abuse a green light to cheat?

 

So "eye for an eye" pretty much?

 

How does it even solve physical abuse problem? At the end of the day you are coming back to abuser's home. And you can't even have a moral high ground.

 

Stupid and pointless.

[peruano99]

Kate at the end of the day, Karma will get you, your lover, and your husband if he hit you.

[Oldspiceywolf]

I don't get all the negative comments and emotions towards OP. This is what happens when people get married and don't communicate. She had a miscarriage... No communication for what, I'm not going to re-read exactly how long for but, for like 6 months? This marriage died with that unborn baby, he obviously couldn't cope with that, he's not a good communicated so he communicated his emotions over her affair with violence.

We all know her initial one night stand was wrong and I think most on this forum believe that any relations prior to divorce being very very close to final but I think as soon as it got physical she mentally ejected, who wouldn't check out. These are just people looking for happiness and support, they're not perfect. From all the forum posts I read, hardly anybody gets it right on the first attempt it usually takes a few mid-steps before getting a good attempt off the ground.

If you ignore your spouse for months, especially after a trauma you DESERVE to get cheated on! The cheater is wrong for cheating but once you are married you just can't ignore your spouse, can't, never, don't do it.

Mates wrong Jason is wrong Brian is wrong, this bitch is dead put it on boat, let's it set sail and set it on fire!

[peruano99]

I don't get all the negative comments and emotions towards OP. This is what happens when people get married and don't communicate. She had a miscarriage... No communication for what, I'm not going to re-read exactly how long for but, for like 6 months? This marriage died with that unborn baby, he obviously couldn't cope with that, he's not a good communicated so he communicated his emotions over her affair with violence.

We all know her initial one night stand was wrong and I think most on this forum believe that any relations prior to divorce being very very close to final but I think as soon as it got physical she mentally ejected, who wouldn't check out. These are just people looking for happiness and support, they're not perfect. From all the forum posts I read, hardly anybody gets it right on the first attempt it usually takes a few mid-steps before getting a good attempt off the ground.

If you ignore your spouse for months, especially after a trauma you DESERVE to get cheated on! The cheater is wrong for cheating but once you are married you just can't ignore your spouse, can't, never, don't do it.

Mates wrong Jason is wrong Brian is wrong, this bitch is dead put it on boat, let's it set sail and set it on fire!

 

 

 

Nobody deserves to be cheated on .

 

Anyways why are we even wasting our time with Kate? She is probably having sex with Jason again and is thinking he is the most wonderful man in the world.

[samsungxoxo]

sure because cheating can be excused under certain circumstances right?, No:mad:, my GOD this double standard rules that women impose now days really amaze me.

 

so according to you "If he was suffering so badly, the right choice would have been to file for divorce and never contact her again" but the right choice for her is not "divorcing and never contact him again" instead, now cheating again as you said is justified for what he did.

 

double stadard rules

 

I am guessing that in the other hand katte's husband had have a revenge affair you would be saying that he is a b*stard and is totally injustified, while you are excusing her current actions.

No double standards; he's just as wrong and bad as Kate at this momento. Sorry but no sympathy for physical abuse. This is crossing the line and just like cheating is a deal-breaker so is getting assaulted in a relationship/marriage.

[samsungxoxo]

How do we even know he hit her? How do we know she's not lying about that too? She very well could be rewriting the martial history to justify leaving her husband in her head so she would be okay for running off with his best friend.

 

She pretty much outted herself when she wrote that she's falling for this guy. Sorry, but you don't "fall in love" with a guy you had a one time fling with. That tells me that she carried on an affair AFTER the first time.

 

Her credibility is shot with me.

What sick person would lie about a getting assaulted? That would really have to be a mentally disturbed person.

[dreamingoftigers]

What sick person would lie about a getting assaulted? That would really have to be a mentally disturbed person.

 

That person would be: A LIAR.

[samsungxoxo]

That person would be: A LIAR.

Indeed.... and a total freak.

 

I believe if a woman purposely went to that extreme trying to ruin a man's life (if she's crazy enough to even make a false police report and had the nerve to go to court too claming abuse), she deserves the same sentence as an abuser would get. Luckily not many women are like nor would ever dream of doing that but those very few who are capable of such things, do make my so mad.

Edited December 24, 2013 by samsungxoxo

[Fluttershy]

That person would be: A LIAR.

 

If she lied about the abuse she probably lied about the whole thing or added a lot.

 

I'd say, knowing some personality types, that the OP confuses sex for love. She is rewritting her history with Jason in order to not be alone and to be with him. He is probably one of those clingy types that latches on to whoever they sleep with and think it is their soulmate. She has given up a better future as a strIn woman by not workiing on herself but seeking solace in the arms of a man who was not in a vunerable place where this happened but rather a calculated place.

 

If her husband did bruise her. I hope he seeks help for his anger issues and also realizes he handled his grief wrong in a marriage. That way he won't fall in to another relationship and repeat his behaviour.

Honestly, all parties involved sound like melodramatic people who are best to be avoided.

[violet1]

I don't get all the negative comments and emotions towards OP. This is what happens when people get married and don't communicate. She had a miscarriage... No communication for what, I'm not going to re-read exactly how long for but, for like 6 months? This marriage died with that unborn baby, he obviously couldn't cope with that, he's not a good communicated so he communicated his emotions over her affair with violence.

We all know her initial one night stand was wrong and I think most on this forum believe that any relations prior to divorce being very very close to final but I think as soon as it got physical she mentally ejected, who wouldn't check out. These are just people looking for happiness and support, they're not perfect. From all the forum posts I read, hardly anybody gets it right on the first attempt it usually takes a few mid-steps before getting a good attempt off the ground.

If you ignore your spouse for months, especially after a trauma you DESERVE to get cheated on! The cheater is wrong for cheating but once you are married you just can't ignore your spouse, can't, never, don't do it.

Mates wrong Jason is wrong Brian is wrong, this bitch is dead put it on boat, let's it set sail and set it on fire!

 

No one deserves to get cheated on, but if you CHOOSE to ignore your spouse especially after after a tragedy, chances are the spouse will CHOOSE to seek affection and support else where. I'm not saying it's right, but Kate was not the only one who broke her vows. Her H did too. Forsake all others is NOT the only marital vow.

Edited December 24, 2013 by violet1

[findingnemo]

What a tangled web...

 

Kate, I hope you are getting IC. You need it. In the space of a few months you lost a baby, had a ONS, got beaten up and lost your M. I bet you are not capable of making any good decisions right now. You need help to grieve the loss of so many things. It seems to me you are getting deeper and deeper in trouble.

 

I don't think Jason is a bad guy. I don't know enough about him to judge apart from him sleeping with his BFF's W. That was a bad thing to do for sure. But here is the thing. If your M had broken up before you cheated...and you had slept with Jason, it would still have been disastrous to his and your H's friendship. The fact that your H was aware of Jason's feelings for you tells me something. Jason held out for a long time until an opportunity that he couldn't resist came his way. He is human and his mistake was stabbing his best friend in the back. He will have a really hard time forgiving himself for that no matter what. He too needs time to regroup and figure out how he could have let it happen. Please allow him to have that time by letting him go until further notice.

 

In the meantime, work on yourself. What did losing that baby mean to you? What did losing Ben's support mean to you? How did your actions/reactions cause the breakup of your M? How did you allow yourself to be in a room alone with a man who you thought you weren't attracted to and ended up in bed? How did Ben hitting you make you feel? How did the violence influence your actions thereafter including this "bonding" with Jason again?

 

To do this kind of introspection, you need help. Life must go on but we should all learn from our past lest we keep making the same mistakes. You call sleeping with Jason a mistake but to me that word is misused. The effects were too disastrous to call it a mistake. So what now? The only thing to do is to know yourself in and out. Know your weaknesses and your strengths so that you are aware at all times of your own flaws. The same way you swallowed a bitter pill and confessed to your H is the same way you need to examine yourself. It takes tremendous courage to be objective about oneself and many people are unable to do it. Find that courage and do it for your own sake. Only then will you be able to trust yourself to make decisions that won't end up in disaster. And though you may still make mistakes, you will at least make them having done your best to avoid them.

[Oldspiceywolf]

Nobody deserves to be cheated on .

 

Anyways why are we even wasting our time with Kate? She is probably having sex with Jason again and is thinking he is the most wonderful man in the world.

 

I'm not saying he deserved to be cheated on but if you leave yourself open to the possibility by not supporting your partner then as a partner you deserve some of the blame. We can't expect everybody to be strong when they are emotionally broken.

Then again how you act when the ***** hits the fan says a lot about your character. Our OP just isn't thy strong and neither is her husband or this Jason dude.

[violet1]

Nobody deserves to be cheated on .

 

Anyways why are we even wasting our time with Kate? She is probably having sex with Jason again and is thinking he is the most wonderful man in the world.

 

Why so bitter? Not trying to be rude, but you act like she cheated on you. If having sex with Jason is what she wants to do, it's her life, her choice. It sounds like her and her husband are separated. Why does it really matter? Kate and her H both destroyed their M. Now it's time for the two of them to work on themselves, heal, and move on.

[peruano99]

I'm not saying he deserved to be cheated on but if you leave yourself open to the possibility by not supporting your partner then as a partner you deserve some of the blame. We can't expect everybody to be strong when they are emotionally broken.

Then again how you act when the ***** hits the fan says a lot about your character. Our OP just isn't thy strong and neither is her husband or this Jason dude.

 

 

 

Jason only deserves blame for hitting her. What she does like having sex with another guy is entirely her fault. Are you making an excuse for why Kate cheated?

Edited December 24, 2013 by peruano99

[tiredofitall2]

Guys, I doubt Kate will be coming back. Well, she might once the R falls apart, and it will.

 

Second, Ben did bruised her when he grabbed her. No where she said that he beat her or was abusive physically before then. So to say that she can be justified for her actions makes no sense. First I'm sure no one here will ever condone physical abuse, in fact if a woman is in a physically abusive R she should D and never ever look back.

 

But, this is not the case here. He made stupid mistake due to the pain and humiliation he felt. So, why was everyone rooting for her before and hoping for Ben to forgive her as her cheating was just a mistake and one that could be forgiven. Now all of the sudden Ben bruised her when he was rough with her and everyone is immediately condemning him and saying that this is unforgivable?

 

Let's take a poll. For women only please. What would you prefer? Lets pretend it is a one time occurrence and there is an absolute guarantee it will never happen again on both examples.

 

Which would you prefer? What's less painful?

 

One day your husband get's drunk and in an argument and handles you in a rough manner and bruises you. There is a guarantee it will never happen again....

 

One day you find out your H slept with you best friend. Later he leaves you and gets with her.......

 

what is more painful.

 

So, understand I'm not justifying Ben in any way, but I hate the double standard what she did should be forgiven, but once he placed his hands on her he is condemned for eternity.

 

No one here can tell her or Ben what to do. If he wants to forgive her, good for him. If she wants to forgive him, then good for her. As long as there is no future abuse or future cheating than great.

 

We all know what the outcome of this will be.

 

Jason, will for a while be destroyed and eventually find happiness, but will likely take him a long, long time. she has destroyed him emotionally. IMHO a lot worse than any other way one can hurt a person.

 

Jason, will get over his little crush and will move on and dump her or cheat on her.

 

Kate will pay for her mistakes and her on dysfunctions will come back to hunt her for many years to come. Hopefully, she will find happiness again, but something tells me this will not be her last divorce.

[Sparta]

Wow just got done reading this whole thread what a waste of my time and everyone else is on here. The bottom line is her character is what truly is in question here. From one night of talking and up at his house and f**king him several times that same night. I knew Reading the rest of this thread was probably going to be a big mistake. Where not hearing the whole story, The only truth the come out of this thread. The choices that she made I don't hunt her for the rest of her life. Her and Jason deserve each other. Actually The husband got the best and of this whole situation. He got rid of two of the worst people he could have in his life. Good for him, now he has the opportunity to find someone that will treat him the way he deserves to be treated.

Edited December 24, 2013 by Sparta

[Sparta]

Wow just got done reading this whole thread what a waste of my time and everyone else is on here. The bottom line is her character is what truly is in question here. From one night of talking and up at his house and F**king several times that night. I knew Reading the rest of this thread was probably going to be a big mistake. Where not hearing the whole story, The only truth the come out of this thread. The choices that she made will hunt her for the rest of her life. Jason and her deserve each other. Actually gave her husband The biggest Christmas present He will probably receive in a lifetime. She removed two of the worst people out of his life immediately.