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i think the same way too. i say to myself this.. the girl i knew died the girl that exists now is a different person totaly

I think people end up missing the person they loved not the one they are now.

 

Like I said earlier. I miss the man I fell in love with. Since the break up he's not that person anymore not to me. He's just a person I love and miss. Does he miss me? Probably not. Do I care? right now I do. Will I in a year? Probably not

 

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i think the same way too. i say to myself this.. the girl i knew died the girl that exists now is a different person totaly

 

Exactly you are correct! That's why when I tell you not to bad mouth her, say hateful things and tell us she will be alone not too.

 

The women who loved YOU is gone. The women you know now... is someone else. You don't know her honey x

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just woke up 6:50 i feel pain ... oh god

 

cant live life with her indiference...

 

how can she i am just a stock to her with 0 value? ok i am what about my soul? what about my existence? she is such a heartless demon.....

 

i wish she could call say - i missed you to death i love you and want my life with you ., if i dont get your hug right now i will die. if i dont sleep with you in your arms i will suffer.... but guess what. she wont cause simple as that. she doesnt love me. neither i think she loved me. it was just an overtrying lust to reach the unreachable... i never put labels on people due to their social level(i mean prince.worker.whore) i respected all like the same but she , now shows her true nature,,,,,, she was amused by the high social class(high for her all humans ara humans)...

 

 

 

-WHEN I GET CLEAN OF HER.. I WILL GET THE NEXT GIRL SAYING I AM THE GARBAGE BOY AND TAKE HER TO SEE THE SUNSET ON A MOPET......

 

 

i felt into fire. i was so inocent that i cant believe it......

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hi friends

 

she is just spinning in my head all day i went to the sea to swim and came back i just cant let it i think of her actions dumping all the things we did and me like a ****.

 

i am devastated.. while at the sea i was feeling the sun on my skin and the wind like i was born in a way

 

such a heartbreak....wish karma finds her. wish the truth comes up...wish me good.... i want to live afterall

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just wow , today i was analyzing again the closure events.... and came to this

 

 

-she feels i am nice guy(thats she said she might regret it later)

-a woman who says that and 2 days earlier she talks somewhere for hours is probably fallen for someone else......

that someone else cant be a friend,,,,, no friend talks for 30+ min even you ask his advice for the break up.... i am so sad oh god

i feel more devastated by the idea,,,,, but i kno i know i must keep no contact for my own good.....

 

i just am super curious but i am not opening the wound again thats for sure,,,,

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I think you have solid advice here on 4 pages.

 

I think you need to give a big shout out to mummyjono, shes given you wise words from a female.

 

For me?

 

My advice is very similar.

 

She's made it apparent she no longer wants to be with you at this moment.

 

You have to understand, the more you contact her the further she goes.

 

You cannot and will never win the battle against her mother....been there done that shat.

 

You need to take time for yourself...implement NC and work on getting your emotions and head under control.

 

That's my advice. Work on that before you go any further.

 

Don't contact her bro. I'm serious. Back way off.

 

 

 

 

 

Barky

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Barky the pain is not affordable for me....

 

 

i struggle my way through and i think all the time this....

 

the oposit of love is indiference,,,, so this woman no longer loves me,,,if she would after all the kind phrases and intentions been send through text she would call,

 

just ****ing call

 

she is just so out of us i cant believe it and that gives me strength to let go....

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woke up bitter again,

 

why on earth she doesnt call me.. am i not her puppy? after all these....?

 

whe she does this to me..... life is not only about our own better but also giving to others,,, and i am not an other i am her man...

 

i used to be kind of posesive ok but i was in love its normal to feel it why am i getting like i dont count anymore?

 

my heart will explode...

 

i cry lonely every now and then

 

the memories are eating my heart..

 

i hope i survive at least

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can i ask you sth?

 

why i feel like i will never sleep again the way we used together?i will always think of her hugs? i mean i was feeling her as a human ....i dont think i will connect again with someone else on that level and even if i do i will always love the ex... i am so devastated....

the thing you are saying with the mirrorring is correct she avoids me fully so yes i dont see anything in contacting her probably she wants to live her life without me and that that phrase as the days pass by empty is killing my soul.......

 

i dont have plans... for now i just take small rides thinking... sitting with family and talking.. writting here and sometimes go to the sea and at nights i sleep so early ....i also visit the local cafe and drink my espresso thinking and seeing the cars and people pass by....

 

whats the point to live betraited? i mean i was giving a fight our own good and she sold us?

 

thats what are the consequenses for me filling empty but if her existance has a reason she will be full of nightmares and ephialtes because she did sth wrong she betraied us..

 

in every couple the in love effect gets lower after sometime but the companionship friend and love thing remain you dont sell your co driver.... simply she kicked me out and now she is on her own but if she is logical she will not be "free" inside never unless she tells lies about it and live a crazyness.....

 

what i will do is only one thing now, i will concetrate on getting money and starting the stock market its my favorite thing.....i just need to calm around feel the pain and glue my parts again ,,,,,......

the way she was telling me to end it she was so cool and calm made me think that she is wale in her feelings i was not only crashed to give you an example how a man would walk if a train runs over him and parks there for an hour i mean after sth like this you are JUST IN PIECES

Ok, so you're spinning pretty bad at the moment.

 

A few things to think about: first of all, a dumper calling us post break-up does more damage than them not calling. This feeling you have is temporary, but it gets better. She is actually doing a very good thing for you - she has made a choice, and now she is backing it up with solid action.

 

Second, you need to start mirroring her behaviour. If she is not contacting you, you are not to contact her.

 

Thirdly, this is the time for friends, hobbies, exercise, and starting anew. So what is your plan for that?

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Ok, so you're spinning pretty bad at the moment.

 

A few things to think about: first of all, a dumper calling us post break-up does more damage than them not calling. This feeling you have is temporary, but it gets better. She is actually doing a very good thing for you - she has made a choice, and now she is backing it up with solid action.

 

Second, you need to start mirroring her behaviour. If she is not contacting you, you are not to contact her.

 

Thirdly, this is the time for friends, hobbies, exercise, and starting anew. So what is your plan for that?

 

I think I'd tend to agree with you needing to see a specialist and talk to someone.

 

I've noticed over the past few days we talk to you, tell you things honestly and you end the day on a high with a positive outlook and a plan to get over her or busy yourself.

 

You then log in the next morning full of steam, missing her, telling us how you hate her and karma should get to her.

 

You go one step forward and 3 backwards. If you don't listen to the advice you have been given and APPLY it you won't heal and you won't be helped.

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i just remembered and want to share some things

 

in the start of our RL i just couldnt do sex with her because i was seeing her as a fairy(such a stupid sensitive i am) and she was begging for my ####

 

we went through a month only her giving head ......

 

i dont know if we can get sth out of this i am just saying.....

 

 

now i am just 1 week nc.... and keep going...

 

the last sms was from her -h r u doing?- probably afraid i was going to find her and beg or afraid sth happened to me cause of the fact she lets me... but i was cool in the last phone call so cool that she was somehow curious haha.. broke her pride broke her selfesteem and the picture of herself. i was loving her for all she didnt have firstly.... she doesnt know what she lost.... just yet...

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i just remembered and want to share some things

 

in the start of our RL i just couldnt do sex with her because i was seeing her as a fairy(such a stupid sensitive i am) and she was begging for my ####

 

we went through a month only her giving head ......

 

i dont know if we can get sth out of this i am just saying.....

 

 

now i am just 1 week nc.... and keep going...

 

the last sms was from her -h r u doing?- probably afraid i was going to find her and beg or afraid sth happened to me cause of the fact she lets me... but i was cool in the last phone call so cool that she was somehow curious haha.. broke her pride broke her selfesteem and the picture of herself. i was loving her for all she didnt have firstly.... she doesnt know what she lost.... just yet...

 

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

was telling anyone that needed? WHO CARES SHE DOESN'T WANT YOU ANYMORE WHAT DO YOU NOT GET?

 

Tomorrow you'll be back, upset, crying and heartbroken. Enjoy your step forward. We will see you tomorrow when your 3 steps back

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ok ok i am just saying i already know she left like 99% is it that bad to hold over 1% after 3 year RL amd 1 week nc?

 

ok if it is then lets talk it academicaly.... i know i know ...

 

-john

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ok ok i am just saying i already know she left like 99% is it that bad to hold over 1% after 3 year RL amd 1 week nc?

 

ok if it is then lets talk it academicaly.... i know i know ...

 

-john

 

No one needs to know about your sex life or lack of. Don't disrespect yourself or her in that way it's not cool honey.

 

That 1% is holding you back...

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Hey I hope you're doing okay, I was where you're standing 5 weeks ago. I can tell You that it is always really rough I the beginning but the important thing is to keep yourself busy with hobbies. For me it's music, I like to play around and DJ so I can connect with that. You also have to move on and at least try to talk to new people. It's surprising how much you can learn about yourself based on other people's first impressions of you.

 

I'm only 21 but at my workplace (Canada's wonderland) I have had 3-4 girls show interest and although I am not interested I'm a relationship right now it honestly helps just to meet new people ad to get to know them. You don't have to date a girl you talk to just because you're a guy meeting them etc. but yes chin up you will be fine!

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every day she become less and less in my mind but this feeling in the chest the stress of betrayal and letting go is omg awfull...

 

as i get my mind clearer the events indicate already she will miss me she said it too......

 

 

so a 24 year old girl treated like a god for 3 years dumps me to live free ,live freedom (but god no she didnt see? what freedom can a girl in a village town live or see? i mean really low class **** nevertheless she dumped me) and in future to mary someone that is more there.... some one that is more ready? somea that is more rich? or more to have stable work or appear as a more manly man?

 

wtf?

 

it probably a circuit in my mind,,,,, that works like that.... i am kind.nice looking....inocent.....fish......i can live without working(property income).....i like art fashion luxury automotive photography... movies.... she dumped me for a kind of guy that "works" in " because i mean the kind of guy that not nesecerally works and is rich but is more not that in to the LOVE thing.... i cant explain it sorry.....

 

one day we will meet and i l rev the rrari (yes i will get one soon)so hard they will fall of their car........

 

damn,,,,,,,

 

these keep spinning on my mind...

 

-i might regret it later

-want to be with my self ------her last words indicate also another man dont they?

 

 

****

 

 

its like the gut feeling was there for me i was stupid enough to not see it...........

 

that she dumps people like they are disposable......

 

at the end i feel powerfull ..more steady today and less bitter ,.i guess that is a three step forward.....

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John,from this thread you sound like you are from my part of the world.

I'm sorry for how you feel,the first month it the absolutely worse so at least know that it will better as time goes by.

I suggest when you feel the worse and want to sms her try to go out of the house and get some air.Go for a swim in the beach-september is the best month or for a coffee in a busy coffehouse to play backgammon and relax.Meet some new people!

It sounds you are not in the capital,but by the sea why not meet even some tourists?I don't say to make ONS or anything like that of course, but just to have fun with people from different culture and enjoy yourself.

Have you gone to the army yet?If not and you are postponing maybe consider to go this year.I don't know for myself(i'm a woman no matter the username) but men all say now the army changed their life and made best friendships and all that.This change of scenery perhaps it could help?

 

You say you want to make money buy ferrari and all that.And then that your ex only wanted for your money and used you.Well!!Think!Do you think make money and ferrari and just showing your money what kind of more women will come to your way?I will tell you what.More women who want you just for your wallet with mothers like your ex's who look only on what you own and how much yyou make.(i know this kind of mother is very common)

If you want to meet nice girls who want you for you and you only you know what you have to do?You have to work on yourself.You hve to socialise,to see your good points and work more on them.You sound like a nice guy and its sad you have to go through this,but thats the life!One time you are on top of the world the next your friends have to get you from the floors.It happens to everyone sadly.:(

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and you know what,I wouldn't probably post this to an american but I will post this to you where is your pride as a man?She after you have given her everything all those years,supported her through university,after spending vacations together introducing to family,dumped you without one proper fight?Used you and then put you away.And now what do you do?You cry you spoil your summer ,every day you wake up you feel like chasing her?and begging her again?Have some pride.Think that all this time you suffer and cry and pain she probably doesn't even care much.She is having the time of her life all while you are in hell.Is this the kind of person you fell in love with?A person who suddendly leaves you?Who doesn't care about your feelings? Someone who loves doesn't make the other pain!Is thsi the kind of person you want to be with??

The person you first met and loved is no more."The glass has broken now."

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i am greek. that is some wise comment,,, no i dont want women want me for money.... i have soul i have characteristics that are over the top and despite that i am also nice looking (jesus i am also sensitive)...(i know its the inner that counts first)now i go back i see that she searched online to find out what kind of bussiness i am in(at start) and thats the reason her mother welcomed me in the first time like i was in heaven they treated me like i was their savior and i was thinking wow such nice persons they are......then the crysis hitted our economy and we went bankrobbed parked our cars sold our yachts and became to try and live in this lifestyle. i made it,,,, i started driving a really small car and kept such a few clothes stopped going out and in some cases we just drove to the sea together,,,(in my heart i was full just being with her despite the situation just be with her even on foot i was ok) now i see that the subconcius in her that was any entertainment anymore....i feel sad...the last time in her house she did sex with me like she wanted me soo badly .... DO YOU DISPOSE A MAN YOU LIKE SEXUALLY AND MENTALLY ? no no no i am not an object ... that label she gave me that i am an object hurts so much.....let her feel the grass aint greener and regret and feel the loss... but i say this all things in a perspective that i might overimpressed her with my high class duchbag attitude (that i thought at the time was cool or just was me back then) and then in the relationship we felt things that aint lie... we loved that aint lie too and i did everything to tell her that people aint objects you just cant "close" someone after you give your self to him....after you did so many miles together,,( i was all the time asking why she dumped her x a cute poor average joe looking boy who later threten her with suicide)i was frustrated because i felt she left him of his lack of "power" money -leading male...or such,i was expressing just the pure love of me,,,

amd she felt for me so badly and then happened the paradox. her mother trying to detach her for me but her cant lt go of my pure personality...

 

 

 

 

all this money i want to get is not to impress a girl no no no it is just because i like for me to get money for john himself that time where i felt i was someone just cause i was in a 80.000e benz aint no more for me....for now on it is single life it is enjoying my trying for earning money and non more...when i will feel free inside i will might try to connect with another girl that deeply-for now on i just have that urge that hunting dream to not let time pass but gain the best for me... i am not into partying(think it is just immature to do it that much )

 

other fact, her mama also was telling her to dump her x.. jesus

 

why on earth all that need they have to get on the surface? cant they see that you dont get to the surface when you find a providing male even not reach just not lazy /// you get to the surface by being human and protecting your values...

 

the thing that we talk here really reliefs the pain,,,,

 

thanks

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and you know what,I wouldn't probably post this to an american but I will post this to you where is your pride as a man?She after you have given her everything all those years,supported her through university,after spending vacations together introducing to family,dumped you without one proper fight?Used you and then put you away.And now what do you do?You cry you spoil your summer ,every day you wake up you feel like chasing her?and begging her again?Have some pride.Think that all this time you suffer and cry and pain she probably doesn't even care much.She is having the time of her life all while you are in hell.Is this the kind of person you fell in love with?A person who suddendly leaves you?Who doesn't care about your feelings? Someone who loves doesn't make the other pain!Is thsi the kind of person you want to be with??

The person you first met and loved is no more."The glass has broken now."

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why i feel guilt that i was controlling? was i? i was just sometime expressing a normal love jealusy i dont know was it better to not care at all? that aint love that is friends.......

 

she had her time going for coffees etc whenever she liked.....

 

we were just saying our everyday lifes to each other through texts and phonecalls to keep in touch in all the details./...

 

i was hurted once she went for drinks with a single divorced coworker and felt like she didnt care for my way of feeling secure ... doesnt mean that we together,, for example i would never let my little one (her) feel that way especialy since we were long distance........ i gave her literally all all you can imagine,,,, all all all

 

i am sure i was not controlling i was not passing the safe zone.... she was doing everuthing she liked......

 

but then again her not inviting me to weddings she attended was kind of turn offs

 

was it normal for a couple that the woman attends weddings without her male mate? and do all that dancing and showing off? i didnt say sth to her about it never i just felt somehow sad? is that controlling?

 

do i find ways to feel guilt? is it that?

i feel sad...

 

wasnt i good?

 

o and yes never bitched about her clothes only once that she literally wear sth was like not wearing at all sth at her legs and felt that whats going on in here that aint commitment? is it?i mean literally show your legs us to the point of groin area... that was like other people were saying look at that with curiosity more rather than sexually....

 

and one time she said to go to the club we went and i was like o ****... i dont enjoy this theme cause it was full of college students drinking and dancing i was like that aint romantic at all and was asking my self how she felt the need for sth like that? omg.......

but i did it...

 

all she wanted we did it.

 

am i wrong? dont you think of these things at all? am i controlling abusive manimulative and socialy complex.... lol? i dont think so......

 

but why do i try to find reasons still... she left me not i....

 

right?

 

also is it controlling to ask your girl after she came from coffe -how is your friend?any news? thats controlling?

 

i feel crap

 

it is not controlling to ask nothing about your girl? literally nothing? the it is like you are not together

 

right?

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it's simple.You try to find reasons so as to make sense of this situation "na vgaleis akri" why this happened.To find the reason because

1) You deep down hope that if you find the reason you can perhaps fix it and then get back together.Don't deny this.

2) You can't just accept that she can break up with you just like that.She can't be a cold heart who just used to.This is coping mechanism to protect yourself from the pain my friend.

 

Now about weddings ,what kind?Family weddings like cousins?If you invite your bf to a wedding it pretty much means that you announce to all the family and the "soi" that this is very very serious relationship quite possibly leading to marriage.Especially at your age.(I think that people in their 30s are more relaxed about bringing their dates in weddings.)Her mother didn't like you it's only natural that she wouldn't invite you.ANOTHER INDICATION that she didn't look at this as serious as you did.Did you invite her to any weddings or nameday fiests (oikogeniakes giortes)where all you full family gathered btw?

 

This woman,as you said before you had another relationship that ended very dramatically with suicide attempt.Of course it wasn't her fault,BUT if I were you I would try to reevaluate the past ,run it through my head.Perhaps she dumped the guy out cold like she did with you?(this is very complex matter but just think what she did BEFORE he started the suicide talk because after this to try to put some distance with the other is normal).Does she have a history of suddendy dumping the guy and immediately go to the next relationship?

 

Ah,You say you were long distance?how long?Do you live in the other sides of the country?When someone is long distance in my opinion it requires a lot of trust.Perhaps YOU were happy with this situation but she wasn't.

 

Anyway stop thinking all the time about her.There's some Eurobasket going on why don't you ring up some friends and go tonight for beers and watch the match or smth?

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the distance was an hour with car... not much... she introduced me to all her relatives and invited me to her giving name to a little child and we attended as a couple the seremony in the first months.... the second year i was kept in cold and although all her ancles and ants where into me i was never invited to christmas or sth similar.... i dont know... i was like a malakas but always keep thinking positive and trusting her,,,, since i was sleeping to her parents house when they werent there...and since i was giving her my heart and was doing everything possible for us never thought of break up.....i invited her to everything from me,,,,,,but she never attended we were just meeting she was talking to my father no problem or my sisters but never visited my house like it was sth,,,,,aaaaah this vilage point of view devastates peoples feelings,,,, why on earth not lead to marriage since i was giving my heart to her? cause i couldnt provide? such a stupid....

 

we fought in the past i agree but the last year + we were ok no probs .... so i dont understand anything.......

 

 

let her find the greener grass.. i must kill all sympathy now for her.... and it was always her mom calling and bitching about her not to visit my parents house.... like i was alone on earth such a bad behavior....like i was not born but planted,,,,

 

i am a man.....

 

btw your name? :) you have solid thinking over it....

 

 

 

 

it's simple.You try to find reasons so as to make sense of this situation "na vgaleis akri" why this happened.To find the reason because

1) You deep down hope that if you find the reason you can perhaps fix it and then get back together.Don't deny this.

2) You can't just accept that she can break up with you just like that.She can't be a cold heart who just used to.This is coping mechanism to protect yourself from the pain my friend.

 

Now about weddings ,what kind?Family weddings like cousins?If you invite your bf to a wedding it pretty much means that you announce to all the family and the "soi" that this is very very serious relationship quite possibly leading to marriage.Especially at your age.(I think that people in their 30s are more relaxed about bringing their dates in weddings.)Her mother didn't like you it's only natural that she wouldn't invite you.ANOTHER INDICATION that she didn't look at this as serious as you did.Did you invite her to any weddings or nameday fiests (oikogeniakes giortes)where all you full family gathered btw?

 

This woman,as you said before you had another relationship that ended very dramatically with suicide attempt.Of course it wasn't her fault,BUT if I were you I would try to reevaluate the past ,run it through my head.Perhaps she dumped the guy out cold like she did with you?(this is very complex matter but just think what she did BEFORE he started the suicide talk because after this to try to put some distance with the other is normal).Does she have a history of suddendy dumping the guy and immediately go to the next relationship?

 

Ah,You say you were long distance?how long?Do you live in the other sides of the country?When someone is long distance in my opinion it requires a lot of trust.Perhaps YOU were happy with this situation but she wasn't.

 

Anyway stop thinking all the time about her.There's some Eurobasket going on why don't you ring up some friends and go tonight for beers and watch the match or smth?

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the distance was an hour with car... not much... she introduced me to all her relatives and invited me to her giving name to a little child and we attended as a couple the seremony in the first months.... the second year i was kept in cold and although all her ancles and ants where into me i was never invited to christmas or sth similar.... i dont know... i was like a malakas but always keep thinking positive and trusting her,,,, since i was sleeping to her parents house when they werent there...and since i was giving her my heart and was doing everything possible for us never thought of break up.....i invited her to everything from me,,,,,,but she never attended we were just meeting she was talking to my father no problem or my sisters but never visited my house like it was sth,,,,,aaaaah this vilage point of view devastates peoples feelings,,,, why on earth not lead to marriage since i was giving my heart to her? cause i couldnt provide? such a stupid....

 

we fought in the past i agree but the last year + we were ok no probs .... so i dont understand anything.......

 

 

let her find the greener grass.. i must kill all sympathy now for her.... and it was always her mom calling and bitching about her not to visit my parents house.... like i was alone on earth such a bad behavior....like i was not born but planted,,,,

 

i am a man.....

 

btw your name? :) you have solid thinking over it....

 

Unfortunatelly this villagelike point of view is exactly how most people think regarding weddings and baptisms etc.Especially if you live in the countryside and not in Athens where everybody knows everybody and they gossip.

Yeah don't bother any more thinking about this.Although I'm sure tomorrow you will be here again in your mourning.

 

Last year around this time my boyfriend suddendly broke up with me.He was my first love.I was shocked.Some days later I find out he already has moved on to the next woman.A woman who is older,less attractive and educated than me and who he even had mentioned to me in the past and made fun of.He went in the last months behind my back met this woman and after he had established this relationship decided to inform me that we are done.Of course without bother to mention that he had already found the replacement.

You know what?That just there proved to me that i was in love with someone who didn't even exist.It was a creature that my imagination and love had created and was only in my head and heart.In truth he just showed me that he was a scumbag that wasn't even worth two tears.Not the kind of man I thought I was with all this time.

Was my love a lie?No.Because from my side my feelings were true and pure and strong and fiery.I am grateful for all the good times we had together for all the nice memories that I lived because of him but..thank goodness he showed his true colours and I can move on to someone who is true and honest.

And you know what?Two months later and even though I was absolutely not looking for relationship just trying to enjoy the single life,I met him.

 

I think as time passes your perspective will change you will realise all her faults how she wasn't that great how ****ty she has treated you and how little she cares about your feelings and then you will stop caring because she just isn't worth it.But you have to find some things to do you know?Start some new activity,football or basketball or join a gym.Help yourself to raise your confidence.So that when your path crosses ,even tomorrow who knows,with the right woman ,you won't be too busy crying over someone who doesn't even care for you.

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