All men are dogs, right?

[Just a Guy]

Hi Compulsive, Have read your thread in parts and so may not have the complete perspective. However, for one thing I completely agree with Christopher Robin about self control. As human beings we have been given the gift of intellect and the ability to make choices freely. Unfortunately animals do not have this gift/s. However animals do NOT have sex for pleasure (as far as I know), but rather for the purpose of procreation. I have seen dogs where one or more may be male and one or more female, interact together with no desire shown, to have sex. However when the female is on heat then the instincts that Nature has endowed them with will make the male dogs fight with each other and become aggressive so that they may be able to impregnate the female.

 

In the case of human beings, sex is not only for procreation but also recreational. You do not see dogs or for that matter, other animals having having orgasms, at least not obviously so. They perform their act and then immediately lose interest and go their separate ways. Animals do NOT have affairs. The reason is that they are NOT gifted with intellect and they do NOT have the privilege of being able to make choices. Intellect and the freedom to make choices are linked together. One makes choices because one is blessed with intellect. I forgot another gift that the Almighty has blessed us with and that is free will. This means that we are not tightly controlled by hormones as are animals. Our free will enables us to recognize a temptation or pitfall and walk away from it because our intellect tells us of the dangers inherent in it. Of course the converse is also true and we can misuse our free will to do walk into a dangerous situation knowing full well what that would result in. Self control is some thing we exercise because we are blessed with intellect and are able appreciate all the various aspects of a situation that we can get involved in. We also have something called guilt which animals do not have. There is no escape from the wrong use of free will. Cheers!

Edited September 12, 2013 by Just a Guy

[dichotomy]

I would like to add something. As a BH, and former Boy Scout type of man, I have spent a lot of time reading and studying in the last few years on sexuality, and cheating women, cheating men, men are dogs, women are dogs, etc... I should really just go get my degree in sex and marriage therapy at this point.

 

After reading 2.50's posts - it reminded me of one series of books I read on my Kindle it was a book called "I steal wives" on Amazon. It was an autobiography of a bad boy/dog of a man who got off on sleeping with married women. Alot was rambling egocentric philosophical spritual babble, but he made some very interesting observations on this whole topic. While professing his "dog-ness" - he was very keen to point out the married women were not very um resistive to the chance to have sex with him... and their husbands who found out often blame shifted to him.... because they could not handle putting it on the wife they loved. That is they could not consider that the woman "had it them" to be a female dog - that they had urges and could have control issues just like a man.

Edited September 12, 2013 by dichotomy

[Tau]

I'll go with the old guy, twosadthings and my own experiences with men.

 

Men are hardwired to look to mate. Im not saying women aren't. But AT LEAST half of the men I've ever met are poon centered. My work brings me to a variety of parts of society. 39 years of being a guy, around guys, listening to guys talk, watching them eye every single woman thats a '7' or higher walk across a room.

 

Good, honorable men control themselves, good father figures help. They know their dogs and need buffer for it. Any honest and successful married man would tell you he tries to avoid compromising situations not rely on just resisting them.

 

Don't believe me? Get a group of ANY 10 guys together in a room with just 1 hottie. Let them drink and talk. Watch their body language, their eyes. You'll see truth. Many people fool themselves into thinking that we're not thinking animals.

 

Guys are f**kers and fighters. "Good" men are conditioned to rise above this. Period. Keeps societal stress down below the "I'm gonna kill that f**ker" level.

[dichotomy]

I'll go with the old guy, twosadthings and my own experiences with men.

 

Men are hardwired to look to mate. Im not saying women aren't. But AT LEAST half of the men I've ever met are poon centered. My work brings me to a variety of parts of society. 39 years of being a guy, around guys, listening to guys talk, watching them eye every single woman thats a '7' or higher walk across a room.

 

Good, honorable men control themselves, good father figures help. They know their dogs and need buffer for it. Any honest and successful married man would tell you he tries to avoid compromising situations not rely on just resisting them.

 

Don't believe me? Get a group of ANY 10 guys together in a room with just 1 hottie. Let them drink and talk. Watch their body language, their eyes. You'll see truth. Many people fool themselves into thinking that we're not thinking animals.

 

Guys are f**kers and fighters. "Good" men are conditioned to rise above this. Period. Keeps societal stress down below the "I'm gonna kill that f**ker" level.

 

Actually you touch on another side of animal urge vs action issue - how often have we heard "men are violent". Well many of us guys HAVE felt the urge to....well ....crack some skulls.. I mean staring at some dude across the room -maybe giving them the eye....but most of us don't act on that internal animal impulse right?

 

Similarly for along the increase in adultery among females - we are also seeing a rapid rise in gals being violent with other gals. Women have never had more freedom to act like the worst of males than they do these days – and some are choosing to exercise those animalistic choices.

[summerdowling87]

this thread makes me want to switch teams....

 

Guess you never seen The L word or the Real L word some lesbians are worse then men...-(LOL)

[road]

Alot was rambling egocentric philosophical spritual babble, but he made some very interesting observations on this whole topic. While professing his "dog-ness" - he was very keen to point out the married women were not very um resistive to the chance to have sex with him... and their husbands who found out often blame shifted to him.... because they could not handle putting it on the wife they loved.

 

 

He knew how to get laid. He knows nothing about recovery. Those BH's did not blame shift. They just let go of their anger for their WW so they could recover.

 

They did not blame shift anything onto him. He earned their anger.

[BeholdtheMan]

Men are drawn to attractive women. Women are drawn to attractive men.

 

Men tend to visualise sex with a hot woman when they see one. Men are more visual. If you define being sexually visual as being a dog, then I suppose men are more dog-like. Frankly, I find this narrow definition to be completely nonsensical.

 

Women might not have these visual fantasies, but they'll nonetheless be drawn to charismatic handsome men. Women's feelings of attraction might be less visual and more of a gut feeling of admiration/attraction, but the effect is still the same. Women are much more receptive to advances from attractive men. Women are much likelier to give positive signals/come onto attractive men.

 

The key point is...men are dogs if you define them as dogs. Plenty of couples have a faithful man and a cheating woman. OP's own marriage is a perfect example. A much better definition of a dog is a selfish man or woman who pursues gratification at the expense of her SO.

 

BTW, dogs are some of the most loyal animals. We should stop attributing human failings to man's best friend. It really is telling about human nature that the term "dog" is considered an insult.

Edited September 14, 2013 by BeholdtheMan