irc333 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 .....until she's married off. Saw this profile of a "traditional Catholic", said that she comes from the tradition that the daughter stays at the parents home until she has found someone to marry" rule But then follows it up with "Please keep in mind I am not the housewife type nor will I ever be. I will not have the house clean, your slippers waiting for you and dinner on the table when you get home. I do know how to cook/bake but it is a hobby I rarely have time to enjoy." Anyone see the conflict in words here? Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Well, maybe she makes lots of money, and can afford (or wants to afford) a maid and a cook. Sometimes I wish I had a maid and a cook! :D Women can be a "helpmate" in many ways, not necessarily just cooking and cleaning. Each couple creates their own dynamics of a respectful and loving relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 No conflict whatsoever. The staying at home concept is not about being prepared for and desiring a life of domesticity where the little wifey takes care of all the housework. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 .....until she's married off. Saw this profile of a "traditional Catholic", said that she comes from the tradition that the daughter stays at the parents home until she has found someone to marry" rule But then follows it up with "Please keep in mind I am not the housewife type nor will I ever be. I will not have the house clean, your slippers waiting for you and dinner on the table when you get home. I do know how to cook/bake but it is a hobby I rarely have time to enjoy." Anyone see the conflict in words here? I hear that she is looking for a certain level of status probably above a relationship. Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
happydate Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) .....until she's married off. Saw this profile of a "traditional Catholic", said that she comes from the tradition that the daughter stays at the parents home until she has found someone to marry" rule But then follows it up with "Please keep in mind I am not the housewife type nor will I ever be. I will not have the house clean, your slippers waiting for you and dinner on the table when you get home. I do know how to cook/bake but it is a hobby I rarely have time to enjoy." Anyone see the conflict in words here? Perhaps you should look yourself in the mirror and ask why you are judging her actions? Why then are you attracted to these postings? Remember that God's will has always been to maintain the Law of Free Will. If her free will said that she won't cook for you, put on your slippers and clean your house, that's her free will. You have no right to violate her free will. Many dysfunctional love relationships stem from the fact that one person starts to "manipulate" and "control" the other person in the relationship to do what he or she wants to work against the person's own free will. Resentment grows. Have you ever wonder why these relationships "FAIL"? God's plan has always been that 2 people should both grow spiritually and love through respect each other's free will and not through manipulation or control and love each other's flaws. Blessings.. Edited September 1, 2013 by happydate Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Z Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Anyone see the conflict in words here? Yes, I see no end of fighting with the woman about religion. Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yes, I see no end of fighting with the woman about religion. The fight is not religious in this case. It is cultural and class based. About the only "Catholic" statement she is being attributed with in the OP is that she will not live with a man before marriage. It is cultural not religious that she stays with the family and not move out on her own unless she needs to move away to work. Assuming she came from an upper class with nannies, cooks and other domestic servants she expects to reach the same level or above upon marriage. Not starting out at the bottom and building their own. Again social and cultural but not religious. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I don't see it as anything unusual, but then again, I come from a traditional Hispanic Catholic background, where a girl lived with her family until she married. Or in my family, joined the military. Living at home with your parents doesn't mean that a daughter isn't the maid or the cook or a servant, it just meant that your daddy took care of you until his son-in-law (or Uncle Sam) took over. so yeah, I would said it's less about religion and more about cultural tradition. Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 The fight is not religious in this case. It is cultural and class based. About the only "Catholic" statement she is being attributed with in the OP is that she will not live with a man before marriage. It is cultural not religious that she stays with the family and not move out on her own unless she needs to move away to work. Assuming she came from an upper class with nannies, cooks and other domestic servants she expects to reach the same level or above upon marriage. Not starting out at the bottom and building their own. Again social and cultural but not religious. If a man announced that in his profile that he intends on living with his parents until marriage, no woman would touch him with a 10-foot pole. LOL Personally, I think she's using religion as an excuse not to get her own place. (ie - Apartment). Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Such a US centric position and prejudice , in many parts of the world the family compound is the norm and even married couple stay with the extended family and don't move out. There is a range of how much the children aid in the upkeep of the house from doing nothing to fund their lifestyles of parties clothes and cars to those who are primary care givers for grandparents and infants. From the Japanese to Greeks to Filipinos to Nigerians to Brazilians to Indians to Vietnamese to Chinese to many other cultures I have had more limited contact with the person staying at home until marriage is the norm. Those that leave, except for moving to another city for work reasons are the exception. She may be a "traditional Catholic" but staying at home is an etnic/cultural tradition, not a Catholic tradition Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Such a US centric position and prejudice , in many parts of the world the family compound is the norm and even married couple stay with the extended family and don't move out. There is a range of how much the children aid in the upkeep of the house from doing nothing to fund their lifestyles of parties clothes and cars to those who are primary care givers for grandparents and infants. From the Japanese to Greeks to Filipinos to Nigerians to Brazilians to Indians to Vietnamese to Chinese to many other cultures I have had more limited contact with the person staying at home until marriage is the norm. Those that leave, except for moving to another city for work reasons are the exception. She may be a "traditional Catholic" but staying at home is an etnic/cultural tradition, not a Catholic tradition Ah, so she's getting her religion and culture mixed up then. lol Link to post Share on other sites
Kristine Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I'm Catholic and I think she's a spoiled you know what. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Saw this profile of a "traditional Catholic", said that she comes from the tradition that the daughter stays at the parents home until she has found someone to marry" rule I'm catholic and i never heard of any such rule. Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 To me it just says " I have no idea how to be an adult, and I've never lived on my own or experienced roommates, so I'll be a huge pain in the butt to live with . I most likely have poor money management since I've barely had bills to pay or worry about having a place to live at the end of the month " But hey, what do I know. Link to post Share on other sites
crederer Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I've never heard of this "rule" either. Her parents are probably religious to the point of being extreme and equate her living away from home as acting like a tramp. It was probably pounded into her head as a child as a means of her parents "protecting" their daughter from the evils lurking outside their front door, under the guise of religion, because it makes it easier to control her as they have the fear of God on their side. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 To me it says "this is who I am and these are my priorities. If they do not match your priorities don't waste your time or mine. I'm not interested" Link to post Share on other sites
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