moimeme Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 it goes back further and further into a rich criminal's pocket Actually, I think those 'grow ops' are run by individual 'entrepreneurs.' I also think that limited use of marijuana is no worse than booze. I've never used it, don't want to, and don't intend to but I think it will be less likely to lead to other drugs if it's decriminalized. The thrill of doing something criminal will be removed and so people won't picture themselves the 'cool' ( ) renegades that drug-users are made out to be in popular culture if they can just go down to the corner store and pick up a pack of doobies. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 BIG difference. Booze is legal and taxed. Pot is not. Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by HokeyReligions BIG difference. Booze is legal and taxed. Pot is not. Let's not even touch that issue - the arbitrary legalization of a drug that kills so many people on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Pot is not. Well it would be, now wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 The arguments for the criminalization of cannabis are circular. It doesn't make sense to say it's illegal because it's not taxed, because if it were legal, it would be taxed. Right-wingers are always concerned with other people 'costing' them money (lazy mexicans on welfare, people faking disability...)--why aren't they concerned with the incredible cost of keeping marijuana distributors/growers/dealers/traffickers incarcerated? While I do believe the financing of drug lords in columbia (or the Bush family ties to afghani opium poppies) is unethical because it advances the cycle of poverty, marijuana is a different story. It's a native plant, and there are so many legitimate markets for it worldwide that we're shooting ourselves in the foot by pretending it's a menace to society. Amphetamines, another drug that is 100% domestic, are more of a threat because of the property damage. Actually, the way extemists coaxed the public into criminilizing cannabis in the first place is by preying on the social climate of racism and fear. In fact, the name 'marihuana' was popularized by people who knew that you'd be afraid of something more if it were Mexican. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 I'm a marijuana partaker myself. And I definitly believe that it should be legalized. However, I wouldn't want the Government to manufacture mine. I prefer the home grown bud I can get here in the mountains. IF the government chooses to legalize pot, I know of tons of people who's utility bills would be cut, WAY WAY down saving them more money to go and spend it on things that'll strengthen the economy......like doritos, pringles, bugles, and lots and lots of bean burritos! Besides, when the chief of police pulls you over just to share the finest herbage he's confiscated last month, it's close to legal anyways in my mind. Let me tell you something.....when they test pot in the property room, they keep the strongest THC bud and replace it with weaker stuff. Who would go in front of a judge and admit they actually had an ounce of pot when all that's brought in as evidence is a quarter ounce? come on! Now, you get caught with alcohol, meth, coke or anything other than pot on you around here, you'll have a nice pad with 3 squares and lonely bubba waitin' to use you as his knee pillow for the next week or so...... Link to post Share on other sites
honey2005 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 To the uncool - stop getting so hysterical about drugs! And just FYI, I'd never use you as a lawyer defending my case if I knew you used coke, sorry. Me either. I'm still confused as to why you would even start this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
MissTaerie Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 My name is Taerie and I had a drug problem. I was always a really nice girl and had tried alcohol and smoked pot once or twice as a teenager. Somewhere around the age of 22 I decided I wanted to break loose and experiment. It all started with smoking pot and drinking. A few months later I decided to try mushrooms. A few months after that, I try Cocaine. Next thing you know I am doing Ritalin, Amphetamines, Ecstasy,Peyote, Mescaline. Sometimes mixing the drugs with a bottle of vodka. By the end of the year my behavior escalated and I was not just doing them on the weekend anymore. My job performance began to suffer, because I was doing it all night during the week. I did this for about 2 years, and all my friends got strung out with me. I can think of a few times being close to smoking the ****. I know it would have been the death of me. I decided to clean up after a dealer almost shot me and my best friend in a deal gone wrong. I knew that night my life had to change, I couldnt imagine my mother getting the phone call that her daughter had been murdered in a crack house. It took me another year to clean up, but one by one , I was able to pull myself out. No programs needed, I am blessed with a strong mind and a stronger heart. A year and a half later I am sober, in my first serious relationship, back in college full time pursuing a legal career , and 65 pounds lighter. How irreperably changed my life has become. My friends, they are not doing so well. One of them got pretty bad into coke, eventually began smoking crack. I had to help him detox one week because his nose was so infected and his heart was ****ing up. I was waiting for him to arrest and for me to drop him off at the ER. Fortunately, he is doing better, but I know that someday, coke is going to kill him. My other best friend weaves in and out of usage and is struggling to keep herself together. I do feel a distance from my friends now that I am the sober one, but we are still friends. And you know what??? I am a way cooler bitch now, than I ever was back then!! Ok...what am I getting at here??? Once thing I want to tell you all is that, once you open the door to drugs, it is damn near impossible to close. Not a day goes by that I dont wonder how long it will take me to get my short term memory back. I blew it out from Ecstasy usage. It takes me twice as long to memorize my law terms, but I do it, and am on the honor roll. I hope it gets better. Im not sure I would trade my drug use away if I had the option, because it was a necessary experience. I do not agree with the message pussycat is saying about sober people harrasing RDU's. I remember back during my peak usage, it was me who discriminated. I was the one who eventually couldn't function in drug free activities. Its amazing how a matter of months can take you from RD Usage to Out of control. Either way, I wish you luck in your journey and that somehow you are given a second chance, just as I was. Blessings. Link to post Share on other sites
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