Its killing me :(

[Nancy87]

Is there absolutly nth that can help. i have been crying and praying to God like crazy.. n nth has changed.

 

They said if u want sth with a true heart u get it, n i loved this man with all that i had.

 

When will God answer.

God i beg u please help me

[KatZee]

God is with you, but also know that God never gives you more than you can handle, and God helps those who help themselves.

 

Praying is good. Talking. There are those who are listening, but at the same time... it's time for action. It's up to YOU and only you to carry you through this rough time.

 

You have to force it. Believe me, I remember the first couple of weeks after my boyfriend of 3 years dumped me. I refused to be miserable and I made plans to go to dinner and dancing with a couple friends. I remember it like it was yesterday. I bought a new dress, did up my hair and makeup, got into my car and drove to the restaurant. I remember sitting at a red light waiting to make a left hand turn and I felt an overwhelming feeling of sadness. I wanted nothing more than to be in a pair of comfy pants, and in the backyard of my ex, just watching TV, hanging with his family, etc.

 

I didn't WANT to be at this restaurant. I knew that if I were with my ex, I would have been with him. Even though I wasn't happy and felt no desire to be there, I FORCED it. Because I refused to be weak, I refused to dwell on him and be obsessed about a person that didn't even want me.

 

Just think about it. This guy left. Why are you obsessing over a guy who doesn't want you? He doesn't want you? GOOD. You'll go and find the guy who would LOVE to be with you and have you. Don't give this guy any more real estate in your brain. You're not worth being in a relationship with? Oh well. Neither is he.

 

Don't glorify him. Don't put him high on a pedestal. Instead of thinking how awesome he is, think of all the times he annoyed you, irritated you. How much you couldn't stand him. Amplify those flaws. See him for the human being he really is.

[Nancy87]

He loved me like crazy and we Never fought..

The fact that he is doing this because he is influced by his family n he thinks he is doing the right thing, killing his own love for me is tormenting..

 

I do party, dance, go out, but these things make me happy only for those lasting moments.

This is my fourth month post breakup now..

 

I feel so grateful to u for ur helping post..

 

Ill try to tune my brain into forgetting him.. i got so much stuff on my head to take care of, but i feel dead inside. i keep myself bz but when i go to bed at night, i miss his sweet words..

 

it hurts!

[KatZee]

Never fighting doesn't mean you had a perfect relationship. In fact, quite the opposite. A lack of conflict shows that you two didn't really know each other well enough to open up and have conflict and then grow stronger for it.

 

Even the happiest of couples fight.

 

Listen, I know you hurt, but think about it. If he was so in love with you, do you REALLY think that his decision would be able to be changed by his family members? NO. He would be telling them to respect him, his decisions, and his choice to be with you.

 

I'm sure there are deeper reasons you just don't even know. A guy that is so in love with you, and who wants to be with you beyond a shadow of a doubt, WILL be with you.

 

Don't keep thinking there were things you could have done, or things he could have done, or that you can change his mind, or that he'll eventually come around.

 

The guy that was "so in love" just walked out of your life FOUR MONTHS ago and hasn't contacted you since. Not even once. Do you think that's an example of some huge love? It's an example of a guy who doesn't even care to be in your life anymore!

 

That's why I said, stop glorifying him.

[Nancy87]

Katzee, u r so sweet.

 

Thank you for investing your time on my non sense thoughts!

[KatZee]

Katzee, u r so sweet.

 

Thank you for investing your time on my non sense thoughts!

 

Lol. It's not nonsense. If you're bored, go dig up some of the threads I started. They were pretty hilarious. Although I didn't really dabble in the sadness, I was furious and my threads really show how all over the place I really was. I think I scared a few people on here with my mania.

[Eclypse]

Is there absolutly nth that can help. i have been crying and praying to God like crazy.. n nth has changed.

 

They said if u want sth with a true heart u get it, n i loved this man with all that i had.

 

When will God answer.

God i beg u please help me

 

God isn't listening. Probably some of those 68 people killed in Kenya recently begged God for help before being slaughtered. You think he cares? He doesn't even exist.

 

If you want to improvr your life you'll have to take action yourself. Just waiting won't do anything. It is hard, but I know you can do it

[Nancy87]

God exists. And He created this whole universe. Sooner or later, he would listen!

 

The quote at the bottom of ur msgs takes abt heaven n hell. If he doesn't exist, where did the concept come from, for u?

[Eclypse]

God exists. And He created this whole universe. Sooner or later, he would listen!

 

The quote at the bottom of ur msgs takes abt heaven n hell. If he doesn't exist, where did the concept come from, for u?

 

It's a quote from Pilgrim's Progress, by John Bunyan. I chose it because it symbolised that living a good life was difficult. One has to be consistently vigilant to make the best possible decisions and to be the best person they can and to not rest on their laurels. I don't believe in God though, just think some of the mythology is cool.

 

Anyway I guess the point I was trying to make was that moping and begging God to fix things wouldn't have much of an effect. You should focus on other things in your life like work and friends to take your mind off your ex. Sooner or later a good man will come into your life and you'll feel much better.

[Toddbt12y1]

I am sorry and know where you are coming from. Sure, God knows you loved this man. Sure, He could easily fix anything. But, He also sees the scope of the entire universe far better than us; in greater prospects.

 

He may have seen something better for you, on the long road. Humans are so near-sighted, we do not always realize this. He may have these plans for you to be with someone else. In His mercy, He showed you the reality of this man. Now, if this same God, who loves you, would remove from you something He sees as ill fit for you, how much more so, would He then provide better for you?

 

Nor does He react or act, how we would like, and when we would like. Trail can build or break a person; establish something, or take it all.

 

Even if God wants better for you(He does), you still have to put effort with trust. Work with faith: Go out, and make better for you, only trust Him to provide and keep you safe. This breakup will require effort from you, to heal, to realize, and move on. God is not going to zap the pain away.

 

He will not instantly provide a way. True, He will provide for the heart. But, that usually means the heart that yarns for His ways. God knows you're suffering. Relief can and will come; but not without effort on your end. Imagine all those men in the Bible; they still had to put effort and time into what they did.

 

Undergo such horrible things. God only provided the avenue. It is up to you to walk it.

 

You're a good Lady Nancy. This guy lost, not you.

[crederer]

I'm not even remotely religious but I was raised catholic.

 

From how I was taught, you cannot pray for things to happen, it doesn't work that way. You can pray to God for him to help give you the strength to make it through this difficult time in your life and provide you with the ability to guide yourself down the right path by making the right choices.

[pie2]

I'm not even remotely religious but I was raised catholic.

 

From how I was taught, you cannot pray for things to happen, it doesn't work that way. You can pray to God for him to help give you the strength to make it through this difficult time in your life and provide you with the ability to guide yourself down the right path by making the right choices.

 

?? Not praying for things to happen...is that a common Catholic teaching?

 

I always thought that we should pray for things to happen. "If we have not, it's because we ask not" kind of thing. I think people pray for things all the time, but sometimes we forget that God's will must ultimately be done.

[crederer]

?? Not praying for things to happen...is that a common Catholic teaching?

 

I always thought that we should pray for things to happen. "If we have not, it's because we ask not" kind of thing. I think people pray for things all the time, but sometimes we forget that God's will must ultimately be done.

 

No you pray to give thanks and pray to gain strength, but praying to get things is considered to be putting all the power in someone elses hands, especially when it comes to "things". Praying isn't meant for hoping for a miracle, it's meant to help find strength to accomplish the things you want.

 

For example, you can pray for the strength to endure a tragedy, you can pray for guidance in helping you make the right choices, you can't pray for a ferrari and expect one in your driveway, or pray for someone to take you back in a relationship. The onus is on the individual to accomplish these things but with God's help through prayer.

[happydate]

?? Not praying for things to happen...is that a common Catholic teaching?

 

I always thought that we should pray for things to happen. "If we have not, it's because we ask not" kind of thing. I think people pray for things all the time, but sometimes we forget that God's will must ultimately be done.

 

The point Crederer is making is known as Prayer Mal-Intent. Since the Road To Hell is paved with Good Intention, prayers when used incorrectly violates the free will of others. For example, the OP's boyfriend does not want her back and he already exercised his free will. Praying for him to come back means forcing God to violate the law of free will and forcing some kind of a miracle upon the ex to come back to her. This is then clearly a violation of free will to the person who is praying and for those who prayed with her too with good intentions!

 

Remember that both a person's intention and thoughts can not be fully protected by God, because that involves a person's free will!! I'm not sure why people here fling themselves to pray for someone while opening up yourself to the onslaught of Satan and his demons!! That's when they can get in to everyone of you! Satan and his demons love when people commit prayer of mal-intent. Because that's where the window of opportunity for them to come into your being without the full protection of God.

 

Crederer is correct. Prayers are used for blessings, gifts (Reciting a Rosary) and calling with the pure intention of God to allow you to commune with him and give you strength! The common use of prayers for Christian done everyday is a protection prayer of Archangel Michael against Satan and his demons plus the communing with the lord as a group with the intent of being only with the Lord. Combination prayers with a group of 3 or more people holding hands provide the strength and the bond protection better than just 1 alone or in Church. This can be done with a Christian family (husband, wife and kids together). Anyone here does a protection prayer twice daily as well as a Rosary on Christian events? That's more important than asking for God to give you back your ex-boyfriend or girlfriend.

 

Like in the parables of the talents, work on yourself and be true to God and all the things shall be added on to you as gifts from the Lord when you have a joyful blissful relationship with him. That may include a relationship with a great spiritual partner. Is begging for your ex to come back a joyful and blissful relationship with God?

 

If you want to give a blessing to the person you know and are close to you that you know who will accept your prayers, then you are not violating their free will. So you see, human beings are easily swayed by temptation. Temptation that we can prove to the world that we are true followers of Christ, but through these temptations either influenced by demon entities, earth bound entities and or dark forces or your low self-esteem, we are also enforcing our will onto others to make us feel good and that's when prayers can be misused.

 

You are a beautiful being and if you work yourself to heal, God will always make his children happy and you will one day meet someone special beyond your wildest dreams.

 

Blessings.

Edited October 30, 2013 by happydate

[pureinheart]

No you pray to give thanks and pray to gain strength, but praying to get things is considered to be putting all the power in someone elses hands, especially when it comes to "things". Praying isn't meant for hoping for a miracle, it's meant to help find strength to accomplish the things you want.

 

For example, you can pray for the strength to endure a tragedy, you can pray for guidance in helping you make the right choices, you can't pray for a ferrari and expect one in your driveway, or pray for someone to take you back in a relationship. The onus is on the individual to accomplish these things but with God's help through prayer.

 

*Having an ornery moment* (or maybe not a moment:laugh:)

 

You sparked a funny memory (well not so funny), my ex left me, so all freaked out, dying and such thinking "I just can't live without him" ...called a friend and asked that we pray him back home...she said, now are you sure? We can pray him back (thinking she had a word of knowledge, meaning God was in fact using this even though it doesn't sound like it)...so we did, and he came back. OH LORD HAVE MERCY, I am here to tell you, be careful of what you pray for, you might get it:eek: ...a year later he left again- THANK YOU JESUS!

 

OH MAN- OP, I'm going to let this post stand, but thought I was in a different thread ooooops. Didn't realize you were praying for a relationship...

 

Ok, anyway, just ask the will of God concerning this- I've seen MANY repaired relationships under the power of God...now have to say I've yet to manage a repaired love relationship because I'm a real handful.

Edited October 31, 2013 by pureinheart

[pie2]

No you pray to give thanks and pray to gain strength, but praying to get things is considered to be putting all the power in someone elses hands, especially when it comes to "things". Praying isn't meant for hoping for a miracle, it's meant to help find strength to accomplish the things you want.

 

For example, you can pray for the strength to endure a tragedy, you can pray for guidance in helping you make the right choices, you can't pray for a ferrari and expect one in your driveway, or pray for someone to take you back in a relationship. The onus is on the individual to accomplish these things but with God's help through prayer.

 

You're not even remotely religious, as you say. Unfortunately, it seems that you don't have a personal relationship with God, and don't understand the power of God's love.

 

Maybe one day you'll seek out a relationship with Him, and understand his endless power to love on us, and give us just what we need.

 

The point Crederer is making is known as Prayer Mal-Intent. Since the Road To Hell is paved with Good Intention, prayers when used incorrectly violates the free will of others.

 

Crederer is correct. Prayers are used for blessings, gifts (Reciting a Rosary) and calling with the pure intention of God to allow you to commune with him and give you strength! The common use of prayers for Christian done everyday is a protection prayer of Archangel Michael against Satan and his demons plus the communing with the lord as a group with the intent of being only with the Lord. Combination prayers with a group of 3 or more people holding hands provide the strength and the bond protection better than just 1 alone or in Church. This can be done with a Christian family (husband, wife and kids together). Anyone here does a protection prayer twice daily as well as a Rosary on Christian events? That's more important than asking for God to give you back your ex-boyfriend or girlfriend.

 

Like in the parables of the talents, work on yourself and be true to God and all the things shall be added on to you as gifts from the Lord when you have a joyful blissful relationship with him. That may include a relationship with a great spiritual partner. Is begging for your ex to come back a joyful and blissful relationship with God?

 

happydate, you're so into free will! I assume you've studied the topic, in depth? The bible doesn't mention free will once. It's a pretty difficult subject to grapple with. Why do you attribute so much to free will, rather than to God? What if we don't really have as much free will as you seem to think? Will that lessen God's power in your eyes?

 

While I agree with you that protection is more important to pray for than an ex, and I agree with pih that we should be careful what we wish for!! However, I don't think we're anyone to judge what people do or don't pray for. No, I don't think we should start dictating worthy vs. unworthy prayers at all.

[M30USA]

You're not even remotely religious, as you say. Unfortunately, it seems that you don't have a personal relationship with God, and don't understand the power of God's love.

 

Maybe one day you'll seek out a relationship with Him, and understand his endless power to love on us, and give us just what we need.

 

 

 

happydate, you're so into free will! I assume you've studied the topic, in depth? The bible doesn't mention free will once. It's a pretty difficult subject to grapple with. Why do you attribute so much to free will, rather than to God? What if we don't really have as much free will as you seem to think? Will that lessen God's power in your eyes?

 

While I agree with you that protection is more important to pray for than an ex, and I agree with pih that we should be careful what we wish for!! However, I don't think we're anyone to judge what people do or don't pray for. No, I don't think we should start dictating worthy vs. unworthy prayers at all.

 

I think free will and predestination both coexist in such a way that it defies logic and human understanding. But, as far as language is concerned, it resembles most closely predestination. This is why the Bible uses the idea of predestination--yet at the same time drops subtle twists here and there that we can choose certain things. I think if we had complete knowledge, we wouldn't make any distinction between free will and predestination. Anyway, enough of me confusing myself. Peace.

[pie2]

I think free will and predestination both coexist in such a way that it defies logic and human understanding...

 

I think I heard William L. Craig explain something about different levels of knowledge, and how God has something like middle, upper and lower knowledge? Something like that. Anyway, there are different types of God's power existing together, at the same time.

[M30USA]

I think I heard William L. Craig explain something about different levels of knowledge, and how God has something like middle, upper and lower knowledge? Something like that. Anyway, there are different types of God's power existing together, at the same time.

 

Craig is a legend in my book!

[AnyaNova]

Is there absolutly nth that can help. i have been crying and praying to God like crazy.. n nth has changed.

 

They said if u want sth with a true heart u get it, n i loved this man with all that i had.

 

When will God answer.

God i beg u please help me

 

God doesn't answer what you think you want and need, what you think you are praying for. He answers the real thing that you actually need.

 

Furthermore, original sin is a force in the world, unfortunately. Sometimes things don't go like they should and unfair things happen.

 

Christ isn't a magic Santa Claus to give us everything we want and to smooth our way to keep it from being difficult, rather Christ will be there with us when it gets difficult.

[happydate]

You're not even remotely religious, as you say. Unfortunately, it seems that you don't have a personal relationship with God, and don't understand the power of God's love.

 

Maybe one day you'll seek out a relationship with Him, and understand his endless power to love on us, and give us just what we need.

 

 

 

happydate, you're so into free will! I assume you've studied the topic, in depth? The bible doesn't mention free will once. It's a pretty difficult subject to grapple with. Why do you attribute so much to free will, rather than to God? What if we don't really have as much free will as you seem to think? Will that lessen God's power in your eyes?

 

While I agree with you that protection is more important to pray for than an ex, and I agree with pih that we should be careful what we wish for!! However, I don't think we're anyone to judge what people do or don't pray for. No, I don't think we should start dictating worthy vs. unworthy prayers at all.

 

Free will isn't written specifically in the scriptures, but it is deemed understood in terms of Jesus Christ's outer and esoteric teachings if you dig deep and meditate enough. If you study the discourse of Judgementalism or the Mote and Beam in Jesus's sayings in the Sermon of the Mount in the Gospel of Matthew Chapter 7 verses 1 thru 5, you will start to understand that you don't judge others for you will be judged with the same standards. And that in the Luke 4:23

 

23 Then he said, “You will undoubtedly quote me this proverb: ‘Physician, heal yourself’—meaning, ‘Do miracles here in your hometown like those you did in Capernaum.

 

Why did Jesus ask us to heal ourselves when we believe we are ill-free?

 

And why in the Parables of the Talents that Jesus made a comparison between 3 slaves, with 2 slaves embracing the Lord but given different levels of compensations and the 3rd defying the Lord and was taken away his gift and given to the 1st slave?

 

What is the moral of this story then?

 

If you think deep enough, every single decision is based on the person's free will! The person who is in despair has the will to change, to transcend upon his or her predicament and come out better!! That's what the discourse of the Parables of the Talents is all about. If you have the free will to save yourselves and embrace God, MORE THINGS will be added on to you. And this has been my experience thus far. So in a way, you will get your wish and more like the 1st slave, but it HAS to START with an intent to embrace the lord. I observe WAY too many people who would do half embracing God and half-defiance of the Lord just like the 3rd slave in the Parables of the Talents! They expect God to bail them out like a spoiled son of a rich family where their parents expect to bail him out of every debt situation until enough is enough. Do you think he will learn the lessons of debt if someone else is doing the bailing? Or would he learn the lessons properly if the bail-out money is taken away from him -- hint hint the 3rd slave in the Parables of the Talents. I think we can agree that he would, but he must endure a certain level of suffering like a drug addict who wants to be drug free!

 

I am not dictating who you should pray to or not. But I am reminding you as a Christian that you must uphold the highest morale code that what Jesus had taught us and not start making our own standards or judgements when it comes to praying for others.

 

Why is that? Because we Christians are not here to feed the fish to those who are in need; rather we are here to teach them how to fish so that they can be self-reliant and fish food for themselves.

 

When Jesus Christ roamed the land 2000 years ago, he too exercised and observed free will of others! He did not heal everyone. Before he started the healing, he would ask the patient permission but inquiring their faith in the Lord. If the patient did not embrace the lord or doing the so-called part time Christianity, Jesus would turn the other cheek and walk away! Why did he do that?? Today, people use this incident as an excuse that Jesus is heartless and that the Lord is nothing more than a figment of someone's imagination.

 

But what these people and some Christians do not realize is that, some of these people can be saved ONLY BY THEMSELVES!!

 

Free will is also supported by the finding of Dr. Shakuntala Modi who is one of the experts in mental healings. You should read her work and you will find it fascinating that FREE WILL is not always a conscious mind thought, but rather it can be the subconscious mind thought. If your subconscious mind loath to heal and pray for someone just so that someone can admire you; that means this someone has self-esteem issues (low self-esteem) that needs idolatry, admiration and self-validation from others and enforcing his or her will onto others to make him or herself feel good or you under demonic influences or earth entities who do not respect your free will!! Jesus Christ's discourse on Physicians Heal Thyself is meant to address this issue, because we all have our own personal defects and the sufferings are the cause of those defects in us. There are literally tons of psychics and mediums as well as Tarot Card readers who loath for admiration and a pat in the back. Why do you need the admiration of other human beings if your self-esteem is high?!? Jesus Christ has high self-esteem, and that he died for us on the cross shows a certain level of sacrifice that we could all learn from.

You must surrender yourself to the Lord first with only 1 pure intention and then heal yourself from your wounds, psychological imbalances and then the Lord will help you through communion what is the best discourse for your healing path.

 

Guess what communion stands for? Complete Union (Communion), and that includes praying in silence for someone for the purposes of healing under the guidance of the Lord and you don't need to post your prayers on the internet either, because that too impose your will on others!

 

Blessings.

Edited November 23, 2013 by happydate

[crederer]

You're not even remotely religious, as you say. Unfortunately, it seems that you don't have a personal relationship with God, and don't understand the power of God's love.

 

Maybe one day you'll seek out a relationship with Him, and understand his endless power to love on us, and give us just what we need.

 

I simply don't believe in God and don't feel the rituals of a religion improve my life in the least.

 

That doesn't mean I don't respect peoples views on it. But I grew up catholic, went to church, catholic schools, etc. I feel that most people that claim to be religious don't even remotely understand what their worshiping.

[Shaine]

Why doesnt god make his presence known? Why doesnt he comfort us? Why doesnt he talk to us like in the bible?

 

I believed in god for a long time. When my ex was losing faith in god, i told him to trust god and his plans.

 

But now, it feels like all those are empty words. Im just convincing myself that he is there. Most of the time im just scared not to believe so i believe. I dont believe out of love. I used to, but now, i feel like i just deluded myself into thinking i love a being that i cant even feel the presence of.

 

Ive prayed, i cried, i asked him to atleast tell me he is there, make his presence known, fill my heart with god's love. But nothing. I sleep with 2 rosaries beside me, i pray and talk to god, i cried to him. But i dont even feel his presence.

 

Is he even there? Many people have cried out to him, many people are suffering. I thought he is full of love and mercy. Am i just kidsing myself?

 

Right now i feel like i have prayed to nothing.

[crederer]

Shaine, I know what you're saying. I think the reality is that most people simply dont want to accept that this is it (life starts and ends on earth).

 

Personally I'm fine with it. Cause once I'm dead I wont know the difference any ways (whether I'm dead or alive, in heaven, hell or whatever).

 

But I think most religious people are clinging on to a ridiculous notion in hopes that their seemingly pointless lives weren't in vain.

 

Just my opinion, not hating on the believers.

[maiden of rohan]

I'm not remotely religious, and if I was, I wouldn't understand the concept of praying to a god that evidently allows innocent people to be killed because you want a man. What would make a person think their god gives two hoots about their love lives when he can't give two hoots about other people's actual lives?

 

If people pray for food, and they starve to death, what makes you think the god (if he exists) that would allow that would care about whether you hook up with a man or not? I honestly don't get the logic of praying to an omniscient being in the first place. If he knows everything that is, that will be, and that was, he already knows what will be, and what? You think he needs an advisory service? Don't get it. If he's omniscient, he already knows what you want and that you will pray for it, and he knows whether or not it will happen. It's kind of the point. So, praying is moot.

 

It's just something that baffles me. I believe in getting up off your knees, and making things happen for yourself. I get that people believe in it, but I don't get the point of being on your knees, willing something to happen, and not doing anything about it to make it happen.

 

Just something I don't get.

Edited December 5, 2013 by maiden of rohan