Book: What on Earth Am I Here For?

[L1ght]

 

I can't prove anything, but my God can...so with that, if you want ask Him- I'm serious...ask Him if He's real and to reveal Himself to you:)

 

You mean talk to myself? Talk that that little voice inside my head?

And now ladies and gentleman here is the proof of Gods existence!

One word......Nonsense.

[pureinheart]

No you don't know, nobody knows and that's the whole point.

Maybe God is real but you can not say you have seen him in any other place than your mind.....that's not acceptable proof.

 

Shows how many weak minded people there are in the world when they are totally unwilling to accept this and carry on believing blindly anyway....yeah, good luck with that.

 

I see Him everywhere, and thanks for the insults- interesting how you declare me and other believers weak minded, it shows where weak minded really is- insults are usually the first indication.

[pureinheart]

You mean talk to myself? Talk that that little voice inside my head?

And now ladies and gentleman here is the proof of Gods existence!

One word......Nonsense.

 

Wow, I said, "if you want"...nonsense is the inability to communicate in a respectful manor. Anyway, have a good one. I won't respond any further to insults:)

[L1ght]

"Bangs my head against a brick wall*

 

I give up.....logic obviously has no place in religious discussion.

[pureinheart]

"Bangs my head against a brick wall*

 

I give up.....logic obviously has no place in religious discussion.

 

Now here's something I can get on board with. My God is not "logical" according to what "I" think should go down at times- this leads to trust...trust is not logical per se, there's that level of, 'I could get screwed here'.

 

In everything we have certain things defined- if we do this, this will take place...then there are those instances in which what should have happened didn't.

 

I would like to cite miracles here- miracles defy logic and the natural things that went down a complete different way- things we cannot explain.

 

We have had discussion after discussion concerning the existence of God or not- I get the other side that says God doesn't and respect that.

 

In my personal life, and that's what it boils down to for all of us IMO, I have seen the existence of God in ways in which there is no logical explanation, and don't expect anyone to believe me. I could throw out link after link proving an illogical explanation. I could throw out Prophetic Scriptures that have taken place and are now, written hundred/thousands of years ago ...I liken it to saying the country (US) is spending too much money, gov is too big, and so on, although there are those that say no even though we have a 17T debt- anything can get explained away. 17T debt says for a fact that if it continues the country will go broke- but some don't see it....did this make sense? Hope I communicated the point I was trying to make.

Edited October 7, 2013 by pureinheart

[L1ght]

Now here's something I can get on board with. My God is not "logical" according to what "I" think should go down at times- this leads to trust...trust is not logical per se, there's that level of, 'I could get screwed here'.

 

In everything we have certain things defined- if we do this, this will take place...then there are those instances in which what should have happened didn't.

 

I would like to cite miracles here- miracles defy logic and the natural things that went down a complete different way- things we cannot explain.

 

We have had discussion after discussion concerning the existence of God or not- I get the other side that says God doesn't and respect that.

 

In my personal life, and that's what it boils down to for all of us IMO, I have seen the existence of God in ways in which there is no logical explanation, and don't expect anyone to believe me. I could throw out link after link proving an illogical explanation. I could throw out Prophetic Scriptures that have taken place and are now, written hundred/thousands of years ago ...I liken it to saying the country (US) is spending too much money, gov is too big, and so on, although there are those that say no even though we have a 17T debt- anything can get explained away. 17T debt says for a fact that if it continues the country will go broke- but some don't see it....did this make sense? Hope I communicated the point I was trying to make.

What miracles? Be honest when you describe them.I will know that you are lying if any of them defy the laws of nature. Anything else will just be classed as good fortune or coincidence and you know it....so yeah, go ahead and describe these miraculous events in your life that you have personally witnessed. I wait for you to amaze me.

[Tiger Lily]

No you don't know, nobody knows and that's the whole point.

Maybe God is real but you can not say you have seen him in any other place than your mind.....that's not acceptable proof.

 

Shows how many weak minded people there are in the world when they are totally unwilling to accept this and carry on believing blindly anyway....yeah, good luck with that.

 

We all take leaps of faith. And after such a leap, we're given information that we didn't have before...we can see the "truth". For example, driving a car round a bend at night, we don't know that a big boulder isn't blocking the way. Yet we keep on at a regular speed, despite the fact that we can't see everything ahead. And once we pass the bend accident-free, we know what was round the corner. But only because we acted on faith.

 

As is with God. There's no definitive, scientific proof. But there is a lot of evidence pointing towards the presence of a creator. And once you take a leap of faith, you realize the truth you couldn't see before.

[pureinheart]

What miracles? Be honest when you describe them.I will know that you are lying if any of them defy the laws of nature. Anything else will just be classed as good fortune or coincidence and you know it....so yeah, go ahead and describe these miraculous events in your life that you have personally witnessed. I wait for you to amaze me.

 

FTR, I'm not much into lying or exaggeration- what's the point. Miracles by nature in fact defy the secular order of things.

 

My grandson- During the pregnancy my daughter had two ultrasounds at 5mo, neither were able to get a good picture of his face, he literally had his hand over his face and in other pics had his head turned. The doc ordered a third ultrasound and they finally got a facial image. They suspected cleft palate, but at that point couldn't determine how bad it was.

 

She was sent to a specialist who did 3-D imaging (can't remember how many and by this time she was about 8 mo). We got a diagnosis of cleft palate. I can't remember how bad they had determined it, the extent, but it was priddy bad. I laid hands on my grandson ...he was born with no cleft palate.

 

While working on the Columbia (Space Shuttle), the last mod prior to the disaster, was doing a hot job underneath the mid-body, everyone had gone to lunch. The Lord took me into a travail and I began crying profusely- the distress was obvious. While checking out of security, of which the guard had a clear view, she looked at me and said that I looked like I was having a really good time (she was serious)...in shock, expecting her to ask me what was wrong and having to explain something, I just said ya, smiled and left. The Lord did not allow her to see my distress- to this day there are no answers.

 

Same mod (Columbia) I was on the forward end of the vehicle facing the nose...there were about 100 people on the floor and 12ft level that could hear and see me. I broke out praying in tongues really loud. After a bit my friend grabbed me and took me outside...I'm like, why did you do that, the anointing was on me...nobody saw that and I guarantee you, someone would have said something.

 

These are just a small portion and will post more, but am pressed for time.

 

God isn't about amazing people, He simply has a plan and likes to reveal Himself.

[KathyM]

I also have been witness to many miracles, or heard about them from people I trust. Healings immediately after prayer, with no physical explanation possible other than divine intervention. And many miracles not related to health. I also know people personally who have the gift of speaking in tongues (languages they have never learned), as well as Christians with the gift of prophesy who warned my son of an event that did transpire a few weeks later. I know it may be hard for some people to believe, but for those who have witnessed these things, it is not.

[Sugarless]

Book: What on Earth Am I Here For?

 

 

I don't understand why there needs to be a reason for our existence.

[pureinheart]

I also have been witness to many miracles, or heard about them from people I trust. Healings immediately after prayer, with no physical explanation possible other than divine intervention. And many miracles not related to health. I also know people personally who have the gift of speaking in tongues (languages they have never learned), as well as Christians with the gift of prophesy who warned my son of an event that did transpire a few weeks later. I know it may be hard for some people to believe, but for those who have witnessed these things, it is not.

 

Amen Kathy- Hey, I think any parent will appreciate this one. God does have a sense of humor:D at the time my daughter was watching too much tv, and yes I could have removed her tv, but wasn't led to. She was about 15 and felt she needed to learn self control. So I prayed about it periodically. Then kind of frustrated I walked past her room and said, "you know, God will move your hindrances", and as God as my witness, her tv went out right after the word "hindrances" came out of my mouth. She tripped hard. This gave God and me quite a bit of credibility after that:D

 

The most recent is not really a miracle, more encouragement IMO. Discouraged concerning a few things, mainly my walk with the Lord, was sitting outside on a beautiful summer/fall night staring at the sky thinking about God praying for strength, I heard in my heart, "you're about to see a shooting star, look at the sky"...thinking this is odd, it wasn't in "my" train of thought and felt rather skeptical because I don't expect God to "perform" for me. A few seconds later, there it was. There was only a window the size of a small car concerning visibility due to trees and structures, also I haven't nor thought of shooting stars since the last time I viewed one which was about 10 yrs ago.

[L1ght]

FTR, I'm not much into lying or exaggeration- what's the point. Miracles by nature in fact defy the secular order of things.

 

My grandson- During the pregnancy my daughter had two ultrasounds at 5mo, neither were able to get a good picture of his face, he literally had his hand over his face and in other pics had his head turned. The doc ordered a third ultrasound and they finally got a facial image. They suspected cleft palate, but at that point couldn't determine how bad it was.

 

She was sent to a specialist who did 3-D imaging (can't remember how many and by this time she was about 8 mo). We got a diagnosis of cleft palate. I can't remember how bad they had determined it, the extent, but it was priddy bad. I laid hands on my grandson ...he was born with no cleft palate.

 

While working on the Columbia (Space Shuttle), the last mod prior to the disaster, was doing a hot job underneath the mid-body, everyone had gone to lunch. The Lord took me into a travail and I began crying profusely- the distress was obvious. While checking out of security, of which the guard had a clear view, she looked at me and said that I looked like I was having a really good time (she was serious)...in shock, expecting her to ask me what was wrong and having to explain something, I just said ya, smiled and left. The Lord did not allow her to see my distress- to this day there are no answers.

 

Same mod (Columbia) I was on the forward end of the vehicle facing the nose...there were about 100 people on the floor and 12ft level that could hear and see me. I broke out praying in tongues really loud. After a bit my friend grabbed me and took me outside...I'm like, why did you do that, the anointing was on me...nobody saw that and I guarantee you, someone would have said something.

 

These are just a small portion and will post more, but am pressed for time.

 

God isn't about amazing people, He simply has a plan and likes to reveal Himself.

*sigh*

Must feel amazing to be so blessed by the lord in everything you do but I gotta ask you....where is God when the people of the world who only know suffering and abuse before they are butchered to death really need him? You saying he chooses to let children get raped and sold into slavery? or even lets people get butchered to death in the name of ethnic cleansing in some backwards part of the world while he blesses your life? Why would he do that exactly? Please feel free to explain to me what makes you so special that he would choose to pay you attention instead of trying to sort out more important maters in the world.

 

 

Also I'm totally unimpressed by your perception of the scenarios you explained where God supposedly touched your soul. Sounds more like you were day dreaming and living in your own fantasy world while the people around you were getting on with there own reality and were completely oblivious to the fantastical realm you were creating for yourself.

Edited October 9, 2013 by L1ght

[L1ght]

I don't understand why there needs to be a reason for our existence.

A more pressing question is that if God did create us then what was the point of creating all of that other matter out there is space? The universe is so epically gigantically massive that it would kinda be a waste of resources to create all that other matter just for the sake of us tiny insignificant fleshy bug like human beings on this tiny planet called earth.....I mean what's the point? He created the rest of the universe that we will never get the chance to make use of? seems like quite a pointless exercise and a literally a complete waste of space.

[pureinheart]

*sigh*

Must feel amazing to be so blessed by the lord in everything you do but I gotta ask you....where is God when the people of the world who only know suffering and abuse before they are butchered to death really need him? You saying he chooses to let children get raped and sold into slavery? or even lets people get butchered to death in the name of ethnic cleansing in some backwards part of the world while he blesses your life? Why would he do that exactly? Please feel free to explain to me what makes you so special that he would choose to pay you attention instead of trying to sort out more important maters in the world.

 

 

Also I'm totally unimpressed by your perception of the scenarios you explained where God supposedly touched your soul. Sounds more like you were day dreaming and living in your own fantasy world while the people around you were getting on with there own reality and were completely oblivious to the fantastical realm you were creating for yourself.

 

You asked me a question, I answered it, and now you revert back to insults and rude communication. I wish you well.

[L1ght]

You asked me a question, I answered it, and now you revert back to insults and rude communication. I wish you well.

I take note of the fact that you didn't answer why God would choose to bless you while millions of other people in this life suffer horrendous atrocities before being butchered to death. I will take it as an admission that deep down you know how self centred and ridiculous it is to believe that you are that special. You ain't. Non of us are more important than anybody else and having the good fortune to live and breathe in a nice part of the world or in a nice family is absolutely a roll of the dice (from an individual being born into the worlds point of view). We just have to hope that our parents were able to put themselves in a position where they could build a good life for us especially if they themselves were born into a life of some kind of poverty......unless of course you're gonna try and argue with me that God chooses who gets to escape from suffering/poverty and who doesn't? That's ridiculous. Claiming fortune from unfortunate circumstances generally comes from a combination of an individuals willpower, hard work, and luck.

Edited October 9, 2013 by L1ght

[pureinheart]

Agree, on all points. It's particularly odorous when people claim this special little person nonsense - and then can't even bother to defend it. Blech.

 

Possibly the stench you smell is that of verbal manipulation. Instead of L1 cutting to the chase, or starting a thread concerning, "why God allows bad things to happen", chose the former question as bait to insinuate that I think I'm better than another. If this is what you both believe no problem, although IMO it is extremely unwise to make assumptions about people you don't know.

 

I have nothing to defend so am not sure where that came from.

 

Am I blessed- you bet, but not for the reasons you think, it's due to the fact that I know where I'm going at the point of departure from this earth.

 

Am I better than anyone else on this earth, no, in fact I am lower- not in the sense of esteem issues, but in the sense of seeing my fellow man as more significant than myself.

 

In the case of Atheism, you both might want to look to man as the reason bad things happen and what man is not doing to stop it. I think it boils down to power, greed and hate.

[happydate]

The Holy Spirit is also known as the River Of Life or the River of Grace.

 

This is the great River which flows always and never fails. And not only a river, but also one of copious stream and overflowing greatness, as also David said: "The stream of the river makes glad the city of God."

 

If you walk the path of Christ and be the like of him, then the River Of Life WILL NOT effect his or her being. He or she flows with the river of grace, embracing its bliss and blessings from God. Those who don't walk the path of Christ with full defiance will be effected by this flow of the river.

 

We are ALL immersed in this river. You can deny it and you can write it off as being nonsense. Fine. By why are these atheist and non-believers roaming here bullying us Christians who are in the river of life and should not be effected by it? But it seemed they are. They are in full force and defiance to make us convert back to their ideals.

 

BECAUSE. As Christians and other spiritual seekers embrace the path of God and receive the miracles, these blessings are shared to ALL humanity and the flow of the river flows stronger. So for a Christian who embraces God as the spiritual master, the river he or she is in is maybe ankle deep. Whereas for less spiritually blessed seekers, the river maybe waist deep, but for those who defy God and make fun of him, the river is neck deep. The people who are in this state feel trapped, unhappy, angry and full hatred as to why their situations are so dire! So their first instinct and this is a given because we are God's creation is to lower the flow of the river. To destroy or cease the creation of this strong flow that caused them to be in neck deep. So they ridicule Christians and any spiritual seekers in the hopes the river flow will be reduced. Unfortunately, what's achieved can not be taken back.

 

The purpose of the flow is to eventually force non-believers like myself to repent and accept the way and the path of Christ. Many atheists and non-believers FEEL unease and offended as though they are burning in hell in the presence of a priest or pastor or any Christian who has attained a certain level of Christlikeness. That's been my experience with myself and our pastor with people who defy god. I think it's because we are blessed by the holy spirit that they feel a huge burden imposed on them. This burden is the sign that you are neck deep in the river of life and that you must ascend and accept the way and life of God.

 

I used to be the same as these 2 people. It's funny that now many atheist calls me pastor or reverend as I preach God's teachings. And yet, a decade ago, I was the ONE who mock and harass the very small religion that I now embraced. How life has turned!

 

Blessings..

Edited October 10, 2013 by happydate

[happydate]

I've found the exact opposite. Christians are uneasy around me. Because I won't accept infallible statements as counters to logical arguments. It's quite funny.

 

Christians who pay lip service to God is no different than you. They are only affected by you because as a bully, the only weapon you have is that of their "fear" of love. It is that fear that makes you powerful. Some form of Christianity makes you fear God and therefore they fear you.

 

Christians who genuinely have faith in God is different than you. They are NOT affected by you because you as a bully can not exploit their inner fear, because they have none. They have the love of god. When you can not exploit their inner fear, you have no power on them. In return, they will be a threat to you because you have inner fear. It is this fear you want to bully others and it is this same fear that you will feel trapped as the river of life flows stronger.

 

Blessings.

Edited October 10, 2013 by happydate

[pie2]

*sigh*

Must feel amazing to be so blessed by the lord in everything you do but I gotta ask you....where is God when the people of the world who only know suffering and abuse before they are butchered to death really need him?

 

I think we should ask those people "where God is". The people you consider to "only know suffering and abuse". It's your subjective opinion, you realize, that dictates their suffering. I have a sneaking suspicion that those you consider to be suffering the most, are probably (on average) some of the people with the greatest faith in God.

 

Funny, that.

 

As an atheist, what is your explanation for the suffering and abuse you perceive? And what have you done, personally, to help alleviate some of that suffering? If you're a fan of Darwinian evolution, isn't it just a fact of life that the weakest won't survive?

[L1ght]

I think we should ask those people "where God is". The people you consider to "only know suffering and abuse". It's your subjective opinion, you realize, that dictates their suffering. I have a sneaking suspicion that those you consider to be suffering the most, are probably (on average) some of the people with the greatest faith in God.

 

Funny, that.

 

As an atheist, what is your explanation for the suffering and abuse you perceive? And what have you done, personally, to help alleviate some of that suffering? If you're a fan of Darwinian evolution, isn't it just a fact of life that the weakest won't survive?

Excuse me? Who the "hell" (assuming hell exists) do you think you are?

"subjective opinion" what the "hell" do you mean?

Its pretty obvious that my "subjective opinion" is in relation to the people who live the sh*ttiest lives here on planet earth.....what? do I have to spell it out for you? feel free to ask me to describe the most horrendous living conditions and atrocities known to mankind and I will gladly make them apparent to you so you don't need to ask me dumb questions again.

You have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of those people who live the sh*ttiest lives and get butchered to death in the sh*ttiest ways possible believe in God?.....yeah so what? You are 100% correct because dumb people can be found anywhere in the world. Like I say...its a roll of the dice. Believing in God has absolutely 0% impact on whether a person lives an amazing life or a horrendous life. Right? believers are getting the life snuffed out of them every day and you know it.

Who says I'm an atheist? I certainly never said anything of the sort. My stance is that nobody knows anything for a FACT so to believe in the presence of something that has never ever been proven in an era when we can record real life actual events is absolutely foolish and irresponsible. It really is. Believing in stories from 2000 years ago when we had no way of recording any actual proof and when human evolution was relatively primitive compared to what we can achieve today is ridiculous, Nonsense, Rubbish and Idiotic to even consider a tale from so long ago on faith alone.

 

 

*says a prayer*

"Hello God! come here now when we have the technology to prove your existence 100%. I will personally film you and personally make you a youtube channel so you can connect to the masses instead of just connecting to peoples minds. Come on now my lord....what are you waiting for?"

Edited October 11, 2013 by L1ght

[L1ght]

Manipulation? Actually, I see it as cutting to the chase, precisely.

 

 

 

You do, as do all christians. Actually, as do all of those who follow the Abrahamic religions. Why were you chosen? Why were you protected? Why did others suffer while you rejoiced, even if they shared the same belief? Infallible arguments do not solve this question.

 

 

 

Do you? Do any of us? The path that assumes knowing all is the path I'd rather not take. First, you assume we will depart from this earth. Unproven. I'd wager (successfully) that the only thing waiting for us on our death is a breath of cold black soil. Beyond that, it is impossible to know where you're going.

 

 

 

Do you? Then why do you believe god blessed you? Why can you not answer why he hasn't blessed and protected others of your belief?

 

 

 

Too simple. It also excludes suffering caused by natural phenomena, such as earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. Be that as it may, social systems and culture/societal suffering are generally brought on by rights and the infringement of those rights. Morality, the basis of rights, is altered by supernatural belief. Thus why we have sects of the same religion slaughtering each other, etc. The interpretation of rights is different in each culture and thus more suffering. In the end, sure, a vast amount of suffering is caused by man - since man invented god, religion, the bible, etc. you are correct. But there are other variations of suffering outside of this context that fall entirely in the natural realm.

 

If god is omnipotent, why did he allow the tidal wave in the Phillipines?

Answered like a boss and better than I would have done as I don't have the same amount of patience to break it down as you do

[pie2]

Its pretty obvious that my "subjective opinion" is in relation to the people who live the sh*ttiest lives here on planet earth.....what? do I have to spell it out for you? feel free to ask me to describe the most horrendous living conditions and atrocities known to mankind and I will gladly make them apparent to you so you don't need to ask me dumb questions again.

You have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of those people who live the sh*ttiest lives and get butchered to death in the sh*ttiest ways possible believe in God?.....yeah so what? You are 100% correct because dumb people can be found anywhere in the world. Like I say...its a roll of the dice. Believing in God has absolutely 0% impact on whether a person lives an amazing life or a horrendous life. Right? believers are getting the life snuffed out of them every day and you know it.

 

L1ght, you are incapable of judging others' "suffering". What suffering means to you might mean something completely different to another. Suffering on earth has little to do with the existence of a creator. It's hard to understand, but it's a harsh reality we have to come to terms with.

 

I ask again, as you seem to ignore the question, what is your explanation of human suffering, and what have you done to help alleviate it?

 

Who says I'm an atheist? I certainly never said anything of the sort. My stance is that nobody knows anything for a FACT so to believe in the presence of something that has never ever been proven in an era when we can record real life actual events is absolutely foolish and irresponsible. It really is. Believing in stories from 2000 years ago when we had no way of recording any actual proof and when human evolution was relatively primitive compared to what we can achieve today is ridiculous, Nonsense, Rubbish and Idiotic to even consider a tale from so long ago on faith alone.

 

Who says you're an atheist? You seem to!! You're signature quote says,

 

Don't believe in anything that can't be proven or disproven. Life is our own responsibility and (until proven otherwise) has nothing to do with an imaginary bearded man in the sky.

 

You can't have it both ways, L1. You either believe in the supernatural, or you don't. You can't insist people hold off on their belief about something that, in your opinion, can't be proven, and yet say you believe...???

 

 

*says a prayer*

"Hello God! come here now when we have the technology to prove your existence 100%. I will personally film you and personally make you a youtube channel so you can connect to the masses instead of just connecting to peoples minds. Come on now my lord....what are you waiting for?

 

Yeah, hope you've gotten the idea that it doesn't work that way. The bible recounts countless revelations to the human race. And yet, time and time again, it only takes a moment before people start doubting once again.

 

Can you only imagine all the naysayers saying that a youtube channel is a complete hoax? There will always be those who won't believe, even if God comes down and personally lifts them up above heaven and earth.

[L1ght]

L1ght, you are incapable of judging others' "suffering". What suffering means to you might mean something completely different to another. Suffering on earth has little to do with the existence of a creator. It's hard to understand, but it's a harsh reality we have to come to terms with.

 

I ask again, as you seem to ignore the question, what is your explanation of human suffering, and what have you done to help alleviate it?

 

 

 

Who says you're an atheist? You seem to!! You're signature quote says,

 

 

 

You can't have it both ways, L1. You either believe in the supernatural, or you don't. You can't insist people hold off on their belief about something that, in your opinion, can't be proven, and yet say you believe...???

 

 

 

 

Yeah, hope you've gotten the idea that it doesn't work that way. The bible recounts countless revelations to the human race. And yet, time and time again, it only takes a moment before people start doubting once again.

 

Can you only imagine all the naysayers saying that a youtube channel is a complete hoax? There will always be those who won't believe, even if God comes down and personally lifts them up above heaven and earth.

Oh do shut up. Creating a YT channel is obviously one form of interaction that someone can take in the modern world.....my point is come here now(message to God yet again)! get yourself on the bbc or fox news, a football match or the Olympic games, a music festival or massive social gathering. Or why not just pop your head out of the clouds so millions of people can film you doing so and prove your existence?

Lol yes I got caught up in my answer and forget to respond to you asking me what I do to alleviate suffering.....for starters what the "hell"(again assuming hell exists) does my personal alleviation of the worlds suffering have to do with the existence of God? Correct answer=absolutely 100% nothing to do with the existence of God! But I will answer you honestly anyway. What do I personally do to help people less fortunate than myself? Nothing, I don't do anything. I stuff my face with takeaway and alcohol on the weekends when people all over the world starve to death before suffering an awful fate at the hands of a religious moron who believes he will get to sleep with 70+ virgins once he reaches the afterlife(and don't you dare act as if you don't indulge yourself in your life cos quite frankly everyone who is fortunate enough to live in a half decent country has the opportunity to eat and live well). I do nothing because its pointless. Humans are dumb and we will never achieve world peace......50 years? 100 years? 200 years? WW3 West vs Middle East in the biggest conflict ever and with this a probable nuclear war.

As far as being an atheist? I told you I am neither one way or the other, I absolutely have the capacity to believe in a higher power but until I see it for my own eyes in the realm we exist in then its impossible for me to put faith into the existence of any God. Same goes for Aliens.....there is as much reason to believe that we were put here by aliens as there is that we were put here by a higher power. Neither can be proven and both are disputed to equal levels. Nobody knows. You don't know. You really don't and the more you pretend you do know the more you are full of sh*t.

Edited October 11, 2013 by L1ght

[happydate]

..........Uhm, yea. Since it was me that forced my religion on the masses of people spread across the globe, through vicious indoctrination, threats of eternal damnation or otherwise.

 

IDK, telling someone they will burn in the stink of trash and the never ending noise of gnashing teeth is pretty... bully-ish, don't you think?

 

Only people filled with hatred, anger and remorse force mass people into mass indoctrination and threats of eternal damnation, because the victims are people who have the same inner anger and unresolved conflict. It is FEAR that allow people to be mass programmed by any religion.

 

Blessings.

[L1ght]

Only people filled with hatred, anger and remorse force mass people into mass indoctrination and threats of eternal damnation, because the victims are people who have the same inner anger and unresolved conflict. It is FEAR that allow people to be mass programmed by any religion.

 

Blessings.

Funny that we get put through a system of mass indoctrination when we are children going through the school system even today. Sure most of us are told by our parents to believe in whatever we want to believe in (apart from those born onto a family of extreme religious beliefs) but the fact remains that in religious education today they still try and force religious opinion down our throats. I mean whats a kid supposed to believe? Its only once we grow up into mature adults that we should be expected to think about religion analytically yet funnily enough many adults fail to do so and choose to blindly believe regardless.