sid3 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 [font=century gothic][/font] I wonder how all the posters how helped me are doing. I haven't foregotten the kindness that was extended to me here. Thanks. I was here for some time. I'm happy to have been gone for awhile now. I came back as a reminder to where I was, and just how miserable I had become. Why do we let another human being bring us to our knees and render us all but helpless? I haven't quite figured it out as of yet. But true power comes from within, There really is a door that says just step right in and change for the better is just around the corner. Perhaps it takes the exhaUSTION THAT COMES WITH BEING MISERABLE FOR ONE TO WANT TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE THE THOUGHT OF PEAKING AROUND THE CORNER. i THINK THAT IS WHAT LEd TO MY EVENTUAL HEALING. i AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE IN THE SAYING THat time really does heal. But the paradox still remains, is it time or is it simply our will, or more accurately our tired of being miserable that enables us to change for the better regardless of the amount of time.. By change I mean move on, I'm not sure, but it sucks to think how there are others right now with the same pain I was in, truely at the lowest point in life, yet better days really are ahead, sadly just unable to be seen through the tears. To anyone who is reading this and hurting, it will seem so much better and things will be clear, once time passes.Hurt doesn't seem to go away for good, it is like a scar. But what we think about when we are reminded of that scar is entirely up to us. Mine makes me smile now, it may have knocked me down, on my ass in fact for months. She knew it would. One thing I always was aware of was the power the dumper feels and truely does posses in a break up, but, I got back up. Dusted myself off, and now I am a better person for having survived it. I was bored and thought like rambling a bit, I hope I helped someone though, laughter really is good medicine. Happy Holidays..........and if this year's are going to suck, think about how next year's are going to be so much better....... You Rock! Link to post Share on other sites
citygrrl Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Sid, you seem to be at the stage that most of us just can't wait to get to- where you are starting to REALLY get over the ex. Tears, heartbreak, that sick feeling in your stomach - it all really sucks, but one day you wake up and realize that you CAN move on... I am still waiting for that day to come. I was the dumper in our 3 yr relationship. I had to - he couldn't control his temper. I took his picture, actually one of the both of us in Vegas - off of my desk at work about a month ago... I was cleaning out some drawers in my desk to make room for new work, and found the picture. I had it out on my desk and a gentleman from another company walked by and saw the picture. He said, "I know this guy! He has been dating some girl he works with for 6 months!" Now, I do NOt work with my ex. And we broke up about a month ago. So just when I was beginning to get past the bad feelings, I felt like I got punched in the stomach. I was so upset, I left work early, and went for a drive. I thought about the whole situation, and even though I am upset that he cheated on me, did I REALLY think that he never would? No! And it made me realize that getting away from him was a much better idea after hearing that comment. He still sends me text messages on my cell phone and tells me how much he misses me. But after what I found out today, there is no going back! Maybe someday I will look back and say, "What in the HELL did I ever see in this guy?" That day can't come soon enough... Link to post Share on other sites
daphne Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Trust me, if I can go from seeing a shrink and thinking there was something terribly wrong with me to really seeing the situation as it was (he was a no good prick) and I would NEVER (hate to use that word but it applies here) go back to him, you will get through dumping a cheating angry jerk. Where I was 9 months ago wasn't pretty. Now, I'm 99%. And loving every minute of it. Link to post Share on other sites
aarsky Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I guess there is light at the end of the tunnel, although after you recently break up with someone, there is still that hurt inside that makes you want to hibernate. I had a girlfriend up until nust recently, and thr only reason it is hurting so much about the separation, is that I caused it and I didn't mean to. And now, she tells me she just wants to be on her own right now and take care of her daughter, which I think in a nice way is saying thanks for the times we had together. A friend of mine called me this morning because he's in a similar situation with this other girl (see guys talk about this stuff also) and he told me from this article he read that love comes from within you, and if you don't love yourself then how can you love another person. Im finding it hard now because it is the holiday season and i havent spent time with anyone esle over the last three years, so it makes it more difficult. Life is a series of ups and downs, and its the downs that we need to make it through. I hope everyone has a great hoilday and I wish I could just grab my g/f in my arms, hug her tightly and tell her all will be ok. But I can't, so I must move on the best way I know how, by knowing that I am just as nice a person as her and that we all have our flaws, no matter how perfect we think we are. Link to post Share on other sites
moon Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 This week it will be two months since I got dumped. I am finally starting to feel better. I'd say for the first month I was miserable. I could barely smile. I put on a brave face when I saw other people, but my mom did tell me I should stop wallowing in self pity. That sort of snapped me out of it after the first month and now rolling into the second month I am feeling a lot better. There won't be a reconciliation with my ex (or an offer of one right now) because he hooked up with another girl like six days after we broke up (he was probably cheating for the last couple of weeks of our relationship, but I have no confirmation of that). I have been through two really painful break ups now. Actually three break ups, two with the same person and the first one (with my current ex) was a breeze (I initiated it after he wouldn't commit). The second break one (now) did feel like I got punched in the stomach (things were more serious between us). The first break up I ever had with another guy lingered on for a year (we were maybe going to get back together, etc...games.) That was a lot harder to deal with I think. I've had no contact at all with my current ex. How could I call him if I sort of know he's with somebody else? I couldn't degrade myself to that. But on his end.....I am happy that if anybody (family or friends) asks about me he can say.....I haven't heard anything from her....nothing. That makes me feel good. But yeah....I'd say a few months after (if you practice no contact) you start to really get the color back in your face, you can deal with the day somewhat normally, with a few patches of sadness. It does feel a lot better. Knowing the history of my ex I think I am probably bound to get a call at like the 3rd months when things with the new girl fizzle. He is such an arrogant prick (and very good looking) but not great in the relationship department. I guess I was the dumb one and forgave him for too much in the past (just stuff I had suspisions about).....to the point where the boundaries in the relationship were blurred. I'll never do that again. Citygrr---that is a strange twist of fate right there. One reason it is getting easier to get over my ex is because we don't live in the same town anymore. Five hundred miles separate us now......so I have no chance to run into him or anybody he knows. It helps. But that would be horrible to find out your ex had cheated on you in that way. I am sure that will take a while to get used to. Link to post Share on other sites
citygrrl Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Moon - thank you for the encouraging words! It sounds like you have a very good attitude about getting over the xbf. I try to keep a smile on my face, even if it hurts sometimes. I am hoping that the "fake it till you make it" attitude will work. I do not talk to anyone I know about how I am feeling, coz they would be really angry at me since he was such a jerk. And even though he is not very good looking, he has a very charismatic personality. And he owns a company, and has money to burn. The money part was never what attracted me to him. But, according to him, other girls are "blowing up" his phone with phone calls. And he thinks I'm going to panic and call him.... I DON'T THINK SO! Stubbornness is usually a bad characteristic, but it's really helping me now! I was very good to him, and he was at times very physically and mentally abusive. But other times he could be very nice. In a way I miss him, and all of the good times we had together, in spite of the bad, but I know that if he is seeing someone else, he is probably treating them the same way he treated me, or worse. His birthday is coming up, and he wants me to meet him for his birthday. But I see no reason to see him again. Why prolong the agony? You can't get over someone if you keep seeing them. When I first tried to end it, I would not see him for a few weeks. Then, just when everything seemed to be getting better and I felt stronger and more optimistic, he would talk me into seeing him, and I would be back at square one. The hurt would come back, and I would have to work through it all over again! I lost a lot of my friends because this guy was so controlling, he did not want me to have any friends - he was very jealous of them (male and female). He would grab my cell phone out of my purse, check it, and look at the numbers of people I called, who called me, and in my phone book. If he saw a number in there that he was suspicious of, he would call them from my phone, even in the middle of the night, and hang up. Then when the person called back, he would answer the phone and sit there and say nothing. I use my call phone for work purposes,too,and sometimes it was clients or business contacts he would call. Very embarrassing! Funny thing is, I never DREAMED of cheating on him, not once! By going back and forth to him, a lot of my friends eventually gave up on me. He threatens that if I don't start seeing him, he is going to sue me for a few trips we went on, and for helping me out financially when I was in and out of the hospital a couple of years ago (I didn't ask him for the help - he came to my house and asked my daughter for all of my bills while I was in the hospital). He sends me text messages saying" If you don't see me, the atty will send the letter out!" HELLO- did you ever hear of EXTORTION? I WISH he was far away from me. I cannot move because I own a home, and my daughter is in high school and I do not want to uproot her at his time because she loves where we are. But he is not right down the street, either. He lives 20 miles away. I live in the suburbs, and he lives downtown. But yet he makes a point to come out this way and hang out at places close to me. Places he never went to before. So I don't go out much. I really don't even want to run into him. And I love going to see a basketball or baseball game, but I know I'll probably run into him there, too. Dating is pretty much out of the question at this point - I've checked out a few web dating sites (something I've never done before), mainly to try and convince myself that there ARE nice guys out there, but I know I'm not ready for that just yet. And I'm not too sure that I would date someone I met on the internet, either. I know the old saying "It will happen when you are ready" - corny as it sounds, I know it's true. You would think I was the one being dumped, the way I am talking! I read in a book that you should give yourself a specific time to mourn, and when that time period is up, force yourself to stop. I think that time is over for me. And being alone for the holidays can be rough, but I have decided that it can be what you make of it, too. By sitting at home and wallowing in self-pity, it will be pretty crappy. So, knowing this, I am going to try to salvage what is left of my friends, and plan a night out. Being around people who are having a good time is much better than sitting at home thinking about HIM. I know I'm going to come across as Superbitch if I don't send him a card for his birthday, but it will just start the phone calls all over again. Life HAS to go on at some point - and sure, there will be days when you feel sad or down about the person you were once with. But, like you said, every day you feel a little stronger. Those words will keep me motivated, and I think when I get to day 100 I am going to reward myself with something nice. (Hopefully I WILL get there!) I think we all beat ourselves up mentally when a relationship ends, and that is part of the hurt. If you gave it your all and it did not work, why punish yourself? Sure, it didn't work out and you lost what you think is your one-and-only, but for those of us who have been through this in other relationships, deep down we KNOW that eventually the hurt will go away. Some really good advice from a book called "Are You the One for ME?" - when we end a relationship, a lot of our own thoughts are what make us hurt. For instance, a common thought is " I'll never find anyone like him/her again!" (sob!) - But in reality, you WON'T. Because everyone is different, no two people are alike. You may look at some characteristics of the person you were once with, and think that no one else will possess those qualities which made that person so great. Maybe not - but maybe there is someone out there who has good qualities that your ex is lacking. No one can be perfect in ALL departments! Anyway, this is the longest post I've ever written. My fingers are about to fall off! We all need to be strong, and give ourselves the credit we deserve. And whether we have been dumped or have dumped someone out of necessity, we are not bad people. Me ex used to call me all sorts of awful names - ugly, old, etc (which I've been told is DEFINITELY not true!) but I would think, " I know damned well you really DON't mean that, because if you did, you would have never have approached me and asked me out in the first place! And you would have never waited six months for me to say yes!" Whatever traits or characteristics we possess that made this person fall for us will attract someone else to us, too. Maybe someone so much better that the ex will become a distant memory.... Link to post Share on other sites
citygrrl Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Moon - thank you for the encouraging words! It sounds like you have a very good attitude about getting over the xbf. I try to keep a smile on my face, even if it hurts sometimes. I am hoping that the "fake it till you make it" attitude will work. I do not talk to anyone I know about how I am feeling, coz they would be really angry at me since he was such a jerk. And even though he is not very good looking, he has a very charismatic personality. And he owns a company, and has money to burn. The money part was never what attracted me to him. But, according to him, other girls are "blowing up" his phone with phone calls. And he thinks I'm going to panic and call him.... I DON'T THINK SO! Stubbornness is usually a bad characteristic, but it's really helping me now! I was very good to him, and he was at times very physically and mentally abusive. But other times he could be very nice. In a way I miss him, and all of the good times we had together, in spite of the bad, but I know that if he is seeing someone else, he is probably treating them the same way he treated me, or worse. His birthday is coming up, and he wants me to meet him for his birthday. But I see no reason to see him again. Why prolong the agony? You can't get over someone if you keep seeing them. When I first tried to end it, I would not see him for a few weeks. Then, just when everything seemed to be getting better and I felt stronger and more optimistic, he would talk me into seeing him, and I would be back at square one. The hurt would come back, and I would have to work through it all over again! I lost a lot of my friends because this guy was so controlling, he did not want me to have any friends - he was very jealous of them (male and female). He would grab my cell phone out of my purse, check it, and look at the numbers of people I called, who called me, and in my phone book. If he saw a number in there that he was suspicious of, he would call them from my phone, even in the middle of the night, and hang up. Then when the person called back, he would answer the phone and sit there and say nothing. I use my call phone for work purposes,too,and sometimes it was clients or business contacts he would call. Very embarrassing! Funny thing is, I never DREAMED of cheating on him, not once! By going back and forth to him, a lot of my friends eventually gave up on me. He threatens that if I don't start seeing him, he is going to sue me for a few trips we went on, and for helping me out financially when I was in and out of the hospital a couple of years ago (I didn't ask him for the help - he came to my house and asked my daughter for all of my bills while I was in the hospital). He sends me text messages saying" If you don't see me, the atty will send the letter out!" HELLO- did you ever hear of EXTORTION? I WISH he was far away from me. I cannot move because I own a home, and my daughter is in high school and I do not want to uproot her at his time because she loves where we are. But he is not right down the street, either. He lives 20 miles away. I live in the suburbs, and he lives downtown. But yet he makes a point to come out this way and hang out at places close to me. Places he never went to before. So I don't go out much. I really don't even want to run into him. And I love going to see a basketball or baseball game, but I know I'll probably run into him there, too. Dating is pretty much out of the question at this point - I've checked out a few web dating sites (something I've never done before), mainly to try and convince myself that there ARE nice guys out there, but I know I'm not ready for that just yet. And I'm not too sure that I would date someone I met on the internet, either. I know the old saying "It will happen when you are ready" - corny as it sounds, I know it's true. You would think I was the one being dumped, the way I am talking! I read in a book that you should give yourself a specific time to mourn, and when that time period is up, force yourself to stop. I think that time is over for me. And being alone for the holidays can be rough, but I have decided that it can be what you make of it, too. By sitting at home and wallowing in self-pity, it will be pretty crappy. So, knowing this, I am going to try to salvage what is left of my friends, and plan a night out. Being around people who are having a good time is much better than sitting at home thinking about HIM. I know I'm going to come across as Superbitch if I don't send him a card for his birthday, but it will just start the phone calls all over again. Life HAS to go on at some point - and sure, there will be days when you feel sad or down about the person you were once with. But, like you said, every day you feel a little stronger. Those words will keep me motivated, and I think when I get to day 100 I am going to reward myself with something nice. (Hopefully I WILL get there!) I think we all beat ourselves up mentally when a relationship ends, and that is part of the hurt. If you gave it your all and it did not work, why punish yourself? Sure, it didn't work out and you lost what you think is your one-and-only, but for those of us who have been through this in other relationships, deep down we KNOW that eventually the hurt will go away. Some really good advice from a book called "Are You the One for ME?" - when we end a relationship, a lot of our own thoughts are what make us hurt. For instance, a common thought is " I'll never find anyone like him/her again!" (sob!) - But in reality, you WON'T. Because everyone is different, no two people are alike. You may look at some characteristics of the person you were once with, and think that no one else will possess those qualities which made that person so great. Maybe not - but maybe there is someone out there who has good qualities that your ex is lacking. No one can be perfect in ALL departments! Anyway, this is the longest post I've ever written. My fingers are about to fall off! We all need to be strong, and give ourselves the credit we deserve. And whether we have been dumped or have dumped someone out of necessity, we are not bad people. Me ex used to call me all sorts of awful names - ugly, old, etc (which I've been told is DEFINITELY not true!) but I would think, " I know damned well you really DON't mean that, because if you did, you would have never have approached me and asked me out in the first place! And you would have never waited six months for me to say yes!" Whatever traits or characteristics we possess that made this person fall for us will attract someone else to us, too. Maybe someone so much better that the ex will become a distant memory.... Link to post Share on other sites
citygrrl Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Moon - thank you for the encouraging words! It sounds like you have a very good attitude about getting over the xbf. I try to keep a smile on my face, even if it hurts sometimes. I am hoping that the "fake it till you make it" attitude will work. I do not talk to anyone I know about how I am feeling, coz they would be really angry at me since he was such a jerk. And even though he is not very good looking, he has a very charismatic personality. And he owns a company, and has money to burn. The money part was never what attracted me to him. But, according to him, other girls are "blowing up" his phone with phone calls. And he thinks I'm going to panic and call him.... I DON'T THINK SO! Stubbornness is usually a bad characteristic, but it's really helping me now! I was very good to him, and he was at times very physically and mentally abusive. But other times he could be very nice. In a way I miss him, and all of the good times we had together, in spite of the bad, but I know that if he is seeing someone else, he is probably treating them the same way he treated me, or worse. His birthday is coming up, and he wants me to meet him for his birthday. But I see no reason to see him again. Why prolong the agony? You can't get over someone if you keep seeing them. When I first tried to end it, I would not see him for a few weeks. Then, just when everything seemed to be getting better and I felt stronger and more optimistic, he would talk me into seeing him, and I would be back at square one. The hurt would come back, and I would have to work through it all over again! I lost a lot of my friends because this guy was so controlling, he did not want me to have any friends - he was very jealous of them (male and female). He would grab my cell phone out of my purse, check it, and look at the numbers of people I called, who called me, and in my phone book. If he saw a number in there that he was suspicious of, he would call them from my phone, even in the middle of the night, and hang up. Then when the person called back, he would answer the phone and sit there and say nothing. I use my call phone for work purposes,too,and sometimes it was clients or business contacts he would call. Very embarrassing! Funny thing is, I never DREAMED of cheating on him, not once! By going back and forth to him, a lot of my friends eventually gave up on me. He threatens that if I don't start seeing him, he is going to sue me for a few trips we went on, and for helping me out financially when I was in and out of the hospital a couple of years ago (I didn't ask him for the help - he came to my house and asked my daughter for all of my bills while I was in the hospital). He sends me text messages saying" If you don't see me, the atty will send the letter out!" HELLO- did you ever hear of EXTORTION? I WISH he was far away from me. I cannot move because I own a home, and my daughter is in high school and I do not want to uproot her at his time because she loves where we are. But he is not right down the street, either. He lives 20 miles away. I live in the suburbs, and he lives downtown. But yet he makes a point to come out this way and hang out at places close to me. Places he never went to before. So I don't go out much. I really don't even want to run into him. And I love going to see a basketball or baseball game, but I know I'll probably run into him there, too. Dating is pretty much out of the question at this point - I've checked out a few web dating sites (something I've never done before), mainly to try and convince myself that there ARE nice guys out there, but I know I'm not ready for that just yet. And I'm not too sure that I would date someone I met on the internet, either. I know the old saying "It will happen when you are ready" - corny as it sounds, I know it's true. You would think I was the one being dumped, the way I am talking! I read in a book that you should give yourself a specific time to mourn, and when that time period is up, force yourself to stop. I think that time is over for me. And being alone for the holidays can be rough, but I have decided that it can be what you make of it, too. By sitting at home and wallowing in self-pity, it will be pretty crappy. So, knowing this, I am going to try to salvage what is left of my friends, and plan a night out. Being around people who are having a good time is much better than sitting at home thinking about HIM. I know I'm going to come across as Superbitch if I don't send him a card for his birthday, but it will just start the phone calls all over again. Life HAS to go on at some point - and sure, there will be days when you feel sad or down about the person you were once with. But, like you said, every day you feel a little stronger. Those words will keep me motivated, and I think when I get to day 100 I am going to reward myself with something nice. (Hopefully I WILL get there!) I think we all beat ourselves up mentally when a relationship ends, and that is part of the hurt. If you gave it your all and it did not work, why punish yourself? Sure, it didn't work out and you lost what you think is your one-and-only, but for those of us who have been through this in other relationships, deep down we KNOW that eventually the hurt will go away. Some really good advice from a book called "Are You the One for ME?" - when we end a relationship, a lot of our own thoughts are what make us hurt. For instance, a common thought is " I'll never find anyone like him/her again!" (sob!) - But in reality, you WON'T. Because everyone is different, no two people are alike. You may look at some characteristics of the person you were once with, and think that no one else will possess those qualities which made that person so great. Maybe not - but maybe there is someone out there who has good qualities that your ex is lacking. No one can be perfect in ALL departments! Anyway, this is the longest post I've ever written. My fingers are about to fall off! We all need to be strong, and give ourselves the credit we deserve. And whether we have been dumped or have dumped someone out of necessity, we are not bad people. Me ex used to call me all sorts of awful names - ugly, old, etc (which I've been told is DEFINITELY not true!) but I would think, " I know damned well you really DON't mean that, because if you did, you would have never have approached me and asked me out in the first place! And you would have never waited six months for me to say yes!" Whatever traits or characteristics we possess that made this person fall for us will attract someone else to us, too. Maybe someone so much better that the ex will become a distant memory.... Link to post Share on other sites
citygrrl Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 WHOOPS! I don't know WHAT happened, but the post went CRAZY!!!!! Sorry... Talk about repeating myself Link to post Share on other sites
helena abadi Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Try reading The Lost Guide to No Contact, V3 on another thread. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It has helped me a lot!! The guy who wrote this should be read by every person struggling with separation, break up and wishing for second chances. He's the guru of No Contact. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 He's the guru of No Contact. Hardly. He's more of a pathetic loser hoping against hope that no contact will either heal him or give him a second chance. He might be better served my staying away from these threads and practicing what he preaches. He keeps reaching out an prolonging the agony. Personally I hope he gets that second chance, but it doesn't look good for him. At least something good will come of this 15 month one sided drama: he can be a bad example for everyone. Glad it helps. Link to post Share on other sites
citygrrl Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 You know, Lost - we are all human! How many people do you think, in reality, do the NC thing and REALLY stick to it, and never EVER contact the ex? Cut yourself some slack! Even though we know that NC is really the best thing for us, we falter sometimes, because we CARE. We wonder how the ex is doing, and make the call, even though we know we shouldn't be doing it! I tried to think as if my ex was dead, in order to stick to the NC. I still fail on occasion, but those times are becoming less and less frequent. It's hard going from talking to someone every single day that was such a big part of your life, to -NOTHING?? You are NOT a pathetic loser... you have given great advice to many people on this site! Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Thanks Grill, Slipping is one thing, it's the conscious decision to reach out and contact that person after 5 months just to remind her that I'm still interested without actually saying it. Leaving it up to her, but making it known that the door is still not locked. Damn if my heart doesn't leap when I hear that special email sound I have play when she emails. That suprised me. Am I back to square one? No, but square two maybe. Maybe that's progress. But then I never got off square three. Everyone has advice. What good is advice from someone that can't get over their own problems? Yes it's a negative day. Nothing has changed. I contacted her and I knew that it wasn't going to accomplish anything beyond what I mentioned earlier. Still, there's a toll to be paid for opening that channel again. Maybe there's another paragraph for version 4. Link to post Share on other sites
helena abadi Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Lost, OK, you're a pathetic loser. Happy now? It does surprise me you still have hope after 15 months. That amount of time well and truely puts the relationship into history, to my way of thinking. It's more easy to write good sensible stuff, and have other people go Oh Wow that's so helpful, but it is difficult following our own advice. Still, you write well. I'm a professional writer and editor, so I know what gels. If it's your own stuff, you have possibilities. If you beg, stole and borrowed, you still put it together well. After a brutal break-up, which I was 100% convinced was final, my ex is making pursuing moves. Which stuns me, to say the least. It's more concrete than the scouting party. But I'm following the No Contact rules, being responsive but trying hard not to weaken and give away my advantage, hell it's HELL, and the Art of War is a valuable ally. Hang in there, soldier. Link to post Share on other sites
theone44 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Originally posted by sid3 [font=century gothic][/font] I wonder how all the posters how helped me are doing. I haven't foregotten the kindness that was extended to me here. Thanks. I was here for some time. I'm happy to have been gone for awhile now. I came back as a reminder to where I was, and just how miserable I had become. Why do we let another human being bring us to our knees and render us all but helpless? I haven't quite figured it out as of yet. But true power comes from within, There really is a door that says just step right in and change for the better is just around the corner. Perhaps it takes the exhaUSTION THAT COMES WITH BEING MISERABLE FOR ONE TO WANT TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE THE THOUGHT OF PEAKING AROUND THE CORNER. i THINK THAT IS WHAT LEd TO MY EVENTUAL HEALING. i AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE IN THE SAYING THat time really does heal. But the paradox still remains, is it time or is it simply our will, or more accurately our tired of being miserable that enables us to change for the better regardless of the amount of time.. By change I mean move on, I'm not sure, but it sucks to think how there are others right now with the same pain I was in, truely at the lowest point in life, yet better days really are ahead, sadly just unable to be seen through the tears. To anyone who is reading this and hurting, it will seem so much better and things will be clear, once time passes.Hurt doesn't seem to go away for good, it is like a scar. But what we think about when we are reminded of that scar is entirely up to us. Mine makes me smile now, it may have knocked me down, on my ass in fact for months. She knew it would. One thing I always was aware of was the power the dumper feels and truely does posses in a break up, but, I got back up. Dusted myself off, and now I am a better person for having survived it. I was bored and thought like rambling a bit, I hope I helped someone though, laughter really is good medicine. Happy Holidays..........and if this year's are going to suck, think about how next year's are going to be so much better....... You Rock! Give it about a year of "no contact",because it take that amount of time for the healing process to be complete. The dumper.....suspose to make the first move,not the dumpee Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 on a few things... 15 months is a long time and the only reason I feel there might still be something there is that she was going thru a divorce at the time of the breakup. That's a huge outside influence. There are also, in my mind, indicators that she still has feelings and either doesn't trust them, or isn't ready for them. She'll talk to me in torrents and then completely disappear. It's as if she finds herself crossing some sort of line and runs away. There's a big insecurity problems there as well. On the subject of no contact for a year: I'd have to say that a year is a very long time. But I am currently corresponding with my prior ex and we have a very adult relationship and have come to terms on alot of the things that went wrong with us. I'm seeing her next week for the first time in several years (she's in another town) and I expect that to go well. Though I have no expectations of a reconciliation there, I do think that the feelings are still there on both sides. We had no contact for two years prior to me reestablishing contact with her. The feelings never really go away. Which I might add, is a very good reason for not maintaining close contact with an ex that you still have feelings for. It tends to undermine current relationships and it is disrespectful to your partner. Link to post Share on other sites
theone44 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Originally posted by lost_in_chgo on a few things... 15 months is a long time and the only reason I feel there might still be something there is that she was going thru a divorce at the time of the breakup. That's a huge outside influence. There are also, in my mind, indicators that she still has feelings and either doesn't trust them, or isn't ready for them. She'll talk to me in torrents and then completely disappear. It's as if she finds herself crossing some sort of line and runs away. There's a big insecurity problems there as well. On the subject of no contact for a year: I'd have to say that a year is a very long time. But I am currently corresponding with my prior ex and we have a very adult relationship and have come to terms on alot of the things that went wrong with us. I'm seeing her next week for the first time in several years (she's in another town) and I expect that to go well. Though I have no expectations of a reconciliation there, I do think that the feelings are still there on both sides. We had no contact for two years prior to me reestablishing contact with her. The feelings never really go away. Which I might add, is a very good reason for not maintaining close contact with an ex that you still have feelings for. It tends to undermine current relationships and it is disrespectful to your partner. Well i agree with you on that one lost,and It take women longer then men to heal. Most of the time, if the woman did the breaking-up and time and years have pass. Sometime women feel guilty, and to much pride get in way of them contacting. Link to post Share on other sites
helena abadi Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 i totally agree, it does take women longer than men to heal, in a majority of cases. women tend to stay emotionally connected to relationships for longer, although Lost seems to be an exception to rules! Lost, are you living in the past, denying yourself a full and fabulous present? sounds as tho you are giving your ex way too much of your time, as if she uses you for a sounding board on issues when she wants, then disappears when she's had enough. are you a soft touch? the dumper usually heals fastest because they're already out the door at the time of the break-up. unless they realised they made a big mistake and want back in, which means they're still connected to the feelings they have for the other person. no contact for a year? depends on how serious the relationship was. the more serious it was, the longer the healing time, i suspect. Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Lost, are you living in the past, denying yourself a full and fabulous present? Am I? Trust issues. So the time in between relationships is usually long and agonizing. It sounds as tho you are giving your ex way too much of your time, as if she uses you for a sounding board on issues when she wants, then disappears when she's had enough. No, sometimes I have emailed her and after some time she emails me. She tells me about work or family, but usually doesn't ask for advice. No demands or requests for anything from her really. My time spent on her is in my own mind more than in actual effort as I have been trying to give her all the space she needs. are you a soft touch? Sure for the right type of person. Not at all for the rest. It's a kinda you hate me or you love me kind of thing. I'm also much more popular with young women and older women. Both out of my target range. But for some reason they are always terribly fond of me. Again, her going thru a divorce during this time clouds the issues. It isn't just a fling or just got tired of it or hate you kinda thing. It was more of a I can't do this and I need you to be my friend right now, I'm going thru alot of stuff kinda thing. And it turned into self justification for the reasons. It's all textbook for post-divorce emotional stress. For well over a year I have not pushed her on anything, asked her to see, invited her anywhere, or done anything other than say I miss talking to you, email or IM me and chat sometimes. Space, but I was firm that I was never going to do what her ex did and start screaming and name calling. I just told her that the door is open and how I felt at the start, sent flowers a few time and then let it rest with the door's open. She's got to work thru this "being single phase" as her family put it "she just needs to be single for awhile". So what can you do, you can't stop it. I tried for a little, because they say that it's important to show that you care and not just walk away like nothing mattered anyway. That tactic can work I hear, but not on someone with some pride and not on someone in an emotional crisis. So maybe it's another year, maybe it's never. It someone else comes along, I won't say no. But the door is still open. Link to post Share on other sites
Stinkerbelle Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 ANY period of time between communications from the ex, is TOO SHORT! Link to post Share on other sites
helena abadi Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Dear Lost, You sound like a good friend to have. People who are your priority in life, are lucky to have you there. I hope people are there for you too in equal measure. Oh, you mean, you don't date women your own age? Well, no matter. Variety is the spice of life!! My father was somewhat younger than my mother in an era where it was an eyebrow raiser, and then some. I've been accused of being ... a soft touch ... I've been taken advantage of, in the past. But when I break up I BREAK and I can't ever recall being friends with any of them. This relationship is the first one I've ever not walked away from, the only one I don't want to lose contact with. I still can't believe it. It's a FIRST in so many ways. Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Oh, you mean, you don't date women your own age? Not what I said. I said those two ranges were outside my target range. Generally I'd look for someone 5-10 yrs younger. That's these days, and mainly because I want kids, and don't want to date one. I've been accused of being ... a soft touch ... I've been taken advantage of, in the past. But when I break up I BREAK and I can't ever recall being friends with any of them. This relationship is the first one I've ever not walked away from, the only one I don't want to lose contact with. I still can't believe it. It's a FIRST in so many ways. Normally that is what I would do, but this breakup has changed me severely. I'm actually in contact with a prior ex as a result, which she is simply amazed by. And I'll be visiting her soon as well. Link to post Share on other sites
helena abadi Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 dear Lost, i wonder what it is about this situation that has changed you so much? and re-visiting a prior ex is pretty amazing, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Author sid3 Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 I see your still here. Your old school. I say enough already. You are mising out on so much happiness. Once I moved on I found myself reqalizing just how happy I deserve and will be sometime in the near future. I no longer maintain no contact, I live my life grateful that I am no longer sharing my preciuos life with someone with whom does not want, appreciate and deserve my love. It's not the destination, it really is the journey......It has been one year since the break up, I feel marvelous............! KATE WAS RIGHT, PERCEPTION IS REALITY Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Well, I'm still emailing with her, and she is starting to talk some more. So there is that. But as I posted earlier, I am seeing my prior ex in a couple weeks and spending the day with her. I don't think much about the ex, other than to email her and talk. I really do like her, aside from my feelings and I hope that we can at least maintain some contact. The prior ex is more mature, has less baggage and is more capable of dealing with me. But she is involved. And until that ends, she won't be considering anything with me. So that's a friends thing too, though I wouldn't turn her down if she decided she wanted more. My problem is I wasn't properly socialized as a child and if you haven't experienced that, you have no frame of reference for understanding it. It's not fear as people usually assume, I have absolutely no fear of women. But I am completely unable to initiate social contact in a typical setting. I'm the type of person who is alone in a crowded room. It's more like I feel I am intruding. My ex turned into party girl when we broke up. Prior to that I would ask her every weekend what she wanted to do and she would always want to stay in. I guess you have to just drag them somewhere or they can't generate an opinion of their own? What about this situation changed me? I put everything I had into this, and tried to do what was best for her and her kids, but her white trasjh upbringing wanted me to move in with her in the first week. Our ways of doing things are just out of whack I guess. The thing is, I thought she was trying to break free of all that with the divorce, but I guess maybe what she wants and what she is confortable with are two different things. Link to post Share on other sites
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