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Now this is NOT to attack any one person specifically. Things MAY be different where I live and the people I hang out with. So nobody JUMP down my throat; just answer the question based on your experiences, save the sassy sarcasm for some other post.

 

Why does it seem like guys night includes, the boys together playing video games, the boys going to the movies, the boys going to a sporting event, the boys just hanging and bullcrapping, the boys going to wing night, the boys gathering for the big football game, the boys playing football/softball, the boys renting a movie, the boys playing poker, the boys going to the casino, etc.

 

But girls night seems to ALWAYS be "happy hour," or "Da Club," or "Martini Night" or "wine tour's, or "wine festivals" or "going to the bar."

 

Now don't get me wrong, SINGLE guys love the club and happy hour and going to the bar...but most married men (good men) I know drop the club and the bar when they find their partner. It becomes like a waste of time to sit next to a good friend you only see every so often and YELL since it's loud at clubs and bars.

 

What is the difference between men and women? Seems like "girls night" always needs to have alcohol, men, or a combination of the two; whereas guys night, RARELY IF EVER has females and occasionally alcohol.

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A lot.

 

1. Society stigma towards guys dancing and/or dancing with each other. I love dancing (on my own), but I go out with just a guy or 2, it's usually weird to just dance on our own.

 

2. A club has 2 functions. Dancing and getting attention. Truth be told girls can get attention easier than guys. I.e. No reason to go for you to a club because noone's gonna likely hit on you (if you're an average guy), but for a girl, it gives her a good ego boost when some losers go and talk to her and she brushes them off. Roles reversed if you know you could go to one place and get a ton of attention, you'd probably go... Instead a club is a place you go to give attention... not really the best time of the world.

 

3. This is just average. There's a lot of guys who go at clubs and a lot of girls who dont while in Rs.

 

4. The best fix for this is to have a healthy social life of guys and girls, so you can go do anything you want. I've found out the same way girls can get attention from random guys wanting their vagina, we can get attention from female friends wanting our protection. There's nothing bad in both. You just have to make sure you know each others boundaries.

 

Cheers,

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You're conveniently forgetting the other kinds of girls nights that exist, and conveniently forgetting that there are plenty of guys nights that take place at a bar or club.

 

Girls night in watching chick flicks, girls night in doing mani/pedis, girls night in having a "spa night".

 

 

Those are just a few of the more obvious ones.

 

 

Me and my best female friend have "girls nights" where we play video games until 3 am. Or we have a dance party in our pajamas in the living room.

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Now this is NOT to attack any one person specifically. Things MAY be different where I live and the people I hang out with. So nobody JUMP down my throat; just answer the question based on your experiences, save the sassy sarcasm for some other post.

 

Why does it seem like guys night includes, the boys together playing video games, the boys going to the movies, the boys going to a sporting event, the boys just hanging and bullcrapping, the boys going to wing night, the boys gathering for the big football game, the boys playing football/softball, the boys renting a movie, the boys playing poker, the boys going to the casino, etc.

 

But girls night seems to ALWAYS be "happy hour," or "Da Club," or "Martini Night" or "wine tour's, or "wine festivals" or "going to the bar."

 

Now don't get me wrong, SINGLE guys love the club and happy hour and going to the bar...but most married men (good men) I know drop the club and the bar when they find their partner. It becomes like a waste of time to sit next to a good friend you only see every so often and YELL since it's loud at clubs and bars.

 

What is the difference between men and women? Seems like "girls night" always needs to have alcohol, men, or a combination of the two; whereas guys night, RARELY IF EVER has females and occasionally alcohol.

 

Hmmmm... honestly dude I wouldn't date a girl who's ladies' night HAD to include "men and alcohol". Lol that's shady as a mf.

 

My gf goes to knitting LOL. They get together and bitch about us (men).

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Yeah, most guys nights that I've seen involve alcohol in copious amounts. Whether its in a club, with an Xbox or in a stadium.

 

And girls like to dance.

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Phoe - I didn't forget those, some girls do those things, and I applaud them. However, you've probably seen tons of message board debates on this site where TONS of girls say "There is nothing else for girls to do except go to the club." And I agree with you Phoe, I think there are TONS of other things to do for men and women alike.

 

And I am only speaking about my small piece of the world and what I've seen.

 

Criticality - I agree but I am speaking to COMMITTED or MARRIED women/men. Most married men (that aren't ruffians and runabouts) I know have no use for the bar or club once married - because their primary reason when single was going to meet women. Lol. They don't need that anymore.

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any married man/woman that goes to bars/clubs for nights out are in my opinion not of the marrying type no matter what bs excuse they use to underline/validate why they do it

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You're conveniently forgetting the other kinds of girls nights that exist, and conveniently forgetting that there are plenty of guys nights that take place at a bar or club.

 

Girls night in watching chick flicks, girls night in doing mani/pedis, girls night in having a "spa night".

 

 

Those are just a few of the more obvious ones.

 

 

Me and my best female friend have "girls nights" where we play video games until 3 am. Or we have a dance party in our pajamas in the living room.

 

Our wedding is downtown at 4. Be there.

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Now this is NOT to attack any one person specifically. Things MAY be different where I live and the people I hang out with. So nobody JUMP down my throat; just answer the question based on your experiences, save the sassy sarcasm for some other post.

 

Why does it seem like guys night includes, the boys together playing video games, the boys going to the movies, the boys going to a sporting event, the boys just hanging and bullcrapping, the boys going to wing night, the boys gathering for the big football game, the boys playing football/softball, the boys renting a movie, the boys playing poker, the boys going to the casino, etc.

 

But girls night seems to ALWAYS be "happy hour," or "Da Club," or "Martini Night" or "wine tour's, or "wine festivals" or "going to the bar."

 

Now don't get me wrong, SINGLE guys love the club and happy hour and going to the bar...but most married men (good men) I know drop the club and the bar when they find their partner. It becomes like a waste of time to sit next to a good friend you only see every so often and YELL since it's loud at clubs and bars.

 

What is the difference between men and women? Seems like "girls night" always needs to have alcohol, men, or a combination of the two; whereas guys night, RARELY IF EVER has females and occasionally alcohol.

 

I don't know where you live, but I have to disagree. There are plenty of guys' night that include women and alcohol. And - shocker! - some of these men are indeed taken or married. I've seen many a guys' night in action, and have been hit on by said men. They are certainly not all single.

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Phoe - I didn't forget those, some girls do those things, and I applaud them. However, you've probably seen tons of message board debates on this site where TONS of girls say "There is nothing else for girls to do except go to the club." And I agree with you Phoe, I think there are TONS of other things to do for men and women alike.

 

And I am only speaking about my small piece of the world and what I've seen.

 

Criticality - I agree but I am speaking to COMMITTED or MARRIED women/men. Most married men (that aren't ruffians and runabouts) I know have no use for the bar or club once married - because their primary reason when single was going to meet women. Lol. They don't need that anymore.

 

Also...who has said this? On this board, do you mean? I don't personally know women who claim there's nothing to do but go to a club, but I can only speak from my own experience

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Also...who has said this? On this board, do you mean? I don't personally know women who claim there's nothing to do but go to a club, but I can only speak from my own experience

 

It was under the topic about should women/men in relationships go "clubbing."

 

And many of the females defense for it was that there is NOTHING else fun for women to do.

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I don't know where you live, but I have to disagree. There are plenty of guys' night that include women and alcohol. And - shocker! - some of these men are indeed taken or married. I've seen many a guys' night in action, and have been hit on by said men. They are certainly not all single.

 

You are right, perhaps I mispoke. I should have said in MY CIRCLE and MY FAMILY. Men who go to bars/clubs are looked at as irresponsible skin hounds looking for action. Most of us don't even go because it's not as fun anymore. However, it's like "classy" for a woman to go on a wine tour, or for martini's, or for happy hour. Like somehow girls have masked "going out drinking" to be this refined activity. Lol.

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I'm not married so I may not be the demographic you're thinking of but my "guys nights out" used to include booze and sometimes bars (at least they did when I was younger). In my undergrad days, we had a weekly "guys night" that sometimes meant we'd go to a local bar and sometimes meant we'd stay in an drink. Sometimes we were all single and sometimes some of us were in relationships. When in relationships we'd often bring our girlfriends.

 

Now that I'm almost 30, I find that it's actually rare that I have a "guys" night out. I have a lot of nights out but it feels so odd to suddenly differentiate between my male and female friends.

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When you're out, obviously you're going to see girls out at clubs.

 

When me and my friends are having pillow fights in our underwear and then practicing kissing, obviously you're not there to observe it. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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It was under the topic about should women/men in relationships go "clubbing."

 

And many of the females defense for it was that there is NOTHING else fun for women to do.

 

For those females using that line of defense, maybe that's true. Kinda sad actually. Hopefully the ones who said this are < 30 y/o.

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Ladies night for me usually does involved going out for cocktails. It also means (for those in our group who single) meeting men and perhaps giving out numbers.

 

I'm not single, so I don't flirt. But I have played wing-woman before.

 

I agree with other posters that there are many shades to Ladies Night that OP is conveniently "forgetting." but I will also propose the idea that when chicks get together, it's to chat, to talk, to gossip, and be social. Men tend to have a shared activity they are getting together to "do." But women don't need to have a reason to gather... they just sit and chat more often than not, over cocktails or wine or whatever.

 

Also, I've heard of the knitting groups... I think the term for those is "stitch and bitch" sessions. :)

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You're conveniently forgetting the other kinds of girls nights that exist, and conveniently forgetting that there are plenty of guys nights that take place at a bar or club.

^^ THIS ^^

 

My girls night -- or day -- usually involve High Tea, shopping at thrift stores, or hitting the latest art openings. The last one involved sea urchin: We walked to four different restaurants and, at each restaurant, ordered only the sea urchin dish before moving on to the next one.

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Criticality - I agree but I am speaking to COMMITTED or MARRIED women/men. Most married men (that aren't ruffians and runabouts) I know have no use for the bar or club once married - because their primary reason when single was going to meet women. Lol. They don't need that anymore.

 

I know plenty of married men that do go those places.

 

As do I.

 

Nobody says your life has to take a 360 turn when you get married. Much of the stuff that was fun before is still fun.

 

Then again, I never went to bars or clubs sorely for the purpose of meeting women.

Those places are actually pretty bad for that.

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i dont drink any more, i went out to a club(i am single),i hadnt gone in a while,I danced all night, hours of it......with girls and one of them was my nineteen year old daughter.......when i went out on breaks i heard guys talking about the women i was dancing with, they didnt notice me as i was standing in the shadows cooling off, they were talking about which one they wanted and which one they were going for and which mate was on the hunt for a blow job, made me feel a little sick....... i walked back in to where the girls were to the talk stopped as i walked past them, sure enough there was this girl with a guy all over her, apparently she was the engaged one and she was wasted........another engaged girl was rubbing up and getting guys to buy her drinks, so it was a bit of an eye opener......

 

 

in my opinion if you dont drink you can go to clubs and dance as women and have a really good time.....if you have alcohol and drink to wastedville chances are you will regret it...if a guy i was going with said to me i dont want you to go dancing ...i would understand why......to tell the truth i probably wouldnt want to without him........

 

 

 

 

i have seen how alcohol lowers inhibitions....and girls nights out shouldnt be about getting wasted...speaking from experience....i am actually shy....when i drink i am not shy at all...i dont care what i say what i do ....until the next morning....then it kills me..thats why i used to drink to be numb..and to be more relaxed not so paranoid

 

 

i dont think drinking is a good night out......for girls or guys.....too many possible regrets to be had......my ex is proof of that......our relationship had infidelity....that involved him goign out and gettign drunk....clubbing after work with hsi mates..sleeping with others....i would stay home with the kids because i didnt drink anyway..a couple of times i did go otu with him... i really found it hard when he was getting drunk....he would become more physically demonstrative...i dont believe in being groped in public not even by a partner.........it debases a person and is humiliating...makes women sexual objects......so i think its about even on the girls night boys night thing as far as clubs are concerned .....its all sleaze isnt it..deb

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Now this is NOT to attack any one person specifically. Things MAY be different where I live and the people I hang out with. So nobody JUMP down my throat; just answer the question based on your experiences, save the sassy sarcasm for some other post.

 

Why does it seem like guys night includes, the boys together playing video games, the boys going to the movies, the boys going to a sporting event, the boys just hanging and bullcrapping, the boys going to wing night, the boys gathering for the big football game, the boys playing football/softball, the boys renting a movie, the boys playing poker, the boys going to the casino, etc.

 

But girls night seems to ALWAYS be "happy hour," or "Da Club," or "Martini Night" or "wine tour's, or "wine festivals" or "going to the bar."

 

Now don't get me wrong, SINGLE guys love the club and happy hour and going to the bar...but most married men (good men) I know drop the club and the bar when they find their partner. It becomes like a waste of time to sit next to a good friend you only see every so often and YELL since it's loud at clubs and bars.

 

What is the difference between men and women? Seems like "girls night" always needs to have alcohol, men, or a combination of the two; whereas guys night, RARELY IF EVER has females and occasionally alcohol.

 

I know no men who have "boys night" and rent movies personally. Are you talking about boys' or girls' night for single people or people who are in relationships? That may have an effect, among other things, on what people choose to do.

 

I think it's a waste to set things up in this way generally though, as your underlying criticism, based on other threads I've seen you participate in, is some assumption that women go out to troll for men/sex and get drunk...which from out the gate is a ridiculous argument from my perspective, as just because men are around or alcohol doesn't automatically mean drunkenness neither does it mean interaction with said men. The world is a coed world and I am not gonna sequester myself to only being where women and virgin drinks are or in my house. I also said in a similar thread that I have never been into one night stands or being wasted, so those aren't issues for me whether single or taken and no matter where I go. I can drink, have fun, be around men and it not be anything more than that.

 

I have gone on wine tours with my gfs...it doesn't happen at night and isn't a meat market of men, but groups of people, older folks, married couples, single women, men are there but it isn't a place to pick up people and no one is wasted on these tours.

 

Girls night for me and my friends have included: chick flicks at home with wine coolers and drinks included yes lol, games night, dinners out, dancing at a club, stripclub (female), cooking/having a dinner at someone's place etc. One theory I have heard is that men tend to base their hanging out around an activity while women tend to care more about conversation with an activity being background noise, hence having wine/cocktail and being in an environment where you can just talk are more conducive to that. I also tend to go out in the day with my gfs more so than at night come to think of it: brunch, day trips, spas, lunch etc.

 

If you are single or in a relationship will also determine certain activities as well as frankly, I don't see how me going to a bar or club or wine tasting or anything has to do with men just because men exist in the world and go out too....:confused:

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I know plenty of "attached guys" (mine included) who occasionally go for guys' nights at bars. In the case of my guy it's usually just a local pub or sports bar. Doesn't bother me at all. It also doesn't bother him that I'll occasionally meet girlfriends at the bar for a couple of drinks. I'm not getting what the big deal is about this.

 

I haven't had any interest in clubbing since I was about 22 (I'm 26 presently), and neither does my partner, so I can't comment on the club scene specifically. But I will say I know very few women in my age bracket and up who still enjoy clubbing on a regular basis. The last time I set foot in one was as part of my friend's bachelorette party about three years ago.

 

Going to meet platonic friends at a bar is not "single" behaviour. Seems like the perception that it is is something that's unique to your particular social circle. People who have poor moral character and the propensity to flirt/mess around on/cheat on their mate don't need a bar or club scene in order to do it. They'll find a way regardless of where their "guys" or "girls" nights find them.

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When me and my friends are having pillow fights in our underwear and then practicing kissing, obviously you're not there to observe it. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

I think pictures and videos would help illustrate your point more effectively...

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MissBee - Don't try and put words in my mouth. I didn't say looking for men. I asked why female nights out often include alcohol and environment's with males whereas with men, it's more about the male bonding and alcohol we can take it or leave it.

 

I should have been clearer, I meant committed/older/married people. Girls CLAIM they love mani/Pedi's, shopping, knitting, etc. But for my money, what I see girls/women actually DO is usually, cocktails, happy hour, martinis, clubbing, etc. Lol.

 

I'm not saying there is a hidden meaning-QUITE the opposite, I asked WHY that is???

 

Because women and men in OLDER generations are OPPOSITE. I.e. My gramp would ALWAYS go to the bar with his friends, my grandmother would NEVER go out drinking....usually breakfast with friends, or movies, or quilting...I feel like men and women switched places in my generation.

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I know plenty of married men that do go those places.

 

As do I.

 

Nobody says your life has to take a 360 turn when you get married. Much of the stuff that was fun before is still fun.

 

Then again, I never went to bars or clubs sorely for the purpose of meeting women.

Those places are actually pretty bad for that.

 

Totally agree - I still take my gf now and then to a rockbar were we just sit, talk, drink, smoke and listen to some (good) music. Sometimes we take friends with us, sometimes I go with other friends.

 

I've completely lost interest in 'clubbing' though.

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Our wedding is downtown at 4. Be there.

 

Hope you meant 4 am... otherwise I'm running a tad bit late. :o

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