This lady is a prophetess in my book

[M30USA]

The media is trying to portray her as a loony and I believe she's been recommended for a psychological evaluation. But you know what? They'd say the same thing about Jeremiah, Isaiah, John the Baptist, or even Jesus. None of the men in the House of Reps have even half the guts or spiritual awareness that she showed here:

 

Edited October 17, 2013 by M30USA

[TaraMaiden]

The media is trying to portray her as a loony and I believe she's been recommended for a psychological evaluation. But you know what? They'd say the same thing about Jeremiah, Isaiah, John the Baptist, or even Jesus. None of the men in the House of Reps have even half the guts or spiritual awareness that she showed here:

 

 

They'd say it about Jeremiah, Isaiah, John the Baptist and even Jesus, because it would probably be true.

 

They can't mentally assess these people 'then'.

 

But if they could give them a full, psychological and physical profile-assessment, NOW, they may well find, by today's medical and psychiatric standards that in fact, they are indeed, equally loony.

[M30USA]

They'd say it about Jeremiah, Isaiah, John the Baptist and even Jesus, because it would probably be true.

 

They can't mentally assess these people 'then'.

 

But if they could give them a full, psychological and physical profile-assessment, NOW, they may well find, by today's medical and psychiatric standards that in fact, they are indeed, equally loony.

 

I once read a short article which said that Ezekiel would meet the modern criteria for a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

 

Recall in the Gospel account how Jesus' own family said "he has lost his mind".

Edited October 17, 2013 by M30USA

[TaraMaiden]

I would surmise, as extreme heat can fry the brain, that he would not be the only candidate, either.....

 

It's amazing what they can diagnose nowadays, from circumstantial evidence and profiling of figures in history.

We know, for a fact now that Leonardo da Vinci could write so perfectly backwards, because he was ambidextrous (more common in predominantly left-handed people than right-handed) but also seriously dyslexic.

Dyslexic people have been shown to be far more capable than non-dyslexic people, of writing from right-to-left and backwards.

They are able to complete whole sentences dictated to them, in under half the time, by comparison.

 

While LdV was extremely verbose and articulate in what he intended to communicate, his spelling left huge amounts to be desired, and his writing was full of faults.

 

Identical faults to those who have dyslexia, today....

 

So I would think it extremely likely that clinical evaluations of prominent Biblical characters may also prove to be revealing....

[TaraMaiden]

I once read a short article which said that Ezekiel would meet the modern criteria for a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

 

Recall in the Gospel account how Jesus' own family said "he has lost his mind".

 

It's possible he had Delusions of Grandeur (clinically acronymed as DOG). He may therefore have also been dyslexic and read it backwards.....

 

Yes, sorry.

 

I'm being facetious.....

[M30USA]

Good points. I have a suspicion that schizophrenia is correlated in some way to extraordinary spiritual knowledge. I don't believe--at least yet--that it favors either side (good or evil), just that it's correlated to spiritual awareness, in general, that far exceeds most people's. This is a hunch based on a decent amount of observation.

[Trimmer]

If she had gone through the very same personality change, with the same enthusiasm and vigor and commitment, but had been shouting about how Satan was the one true lord, or something else diametrically against your particular beliefs, would you have believed that she still merited reverence as a prophet?

 

In other words, is it her behavior on which you think we should judge her need for help, or her message?

 

My thought: if someone shows a clear behavioral shift, to the degree that they are acting out in a completely inappropriate way relative to their past capabilities and their current setting, then no matter what is the content of their message, we owe them our help. Such a rapidly altered personality could well indicate a real, physical problem, perhaps even a life-threatening one.

 

If we agree with her message, should we just sit around and let her go on, while she might be bleeding out in her brain somewhere?

[pie2]

I think God is a God of order. The stenographer's actions seemed inappropriate, disjointed, and random. I also didn't get any "prophecy" from her statement.

 

It is interesting that psychosis so often centers around religion, sex and violence; very core, primitive aspects to humanity. I do believe there's a spiritual element to everything, and mental health is just one more part of life where spiritual warfare can play out.

[M30USA]

I think God is a God of order. The stenographer's actions seemed inappropriate, disjointed, and random. I also didn't get any "prophecy" from her statement.

 

It is interesting that psychosis so often centers around religion, sex and violence; very core, primitive aspects to humanity. I do believe there's a spiritual element to everything, and mental health is just one more part of life where spiritual warfare can play out.

 

Was John the Baptist keeping "order" when, while people were lining up for his baptism ceremony, he said to the Pharisees, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

 

What about when Jesus drove out the money changers with a whip? That wasn't very orderly.

 

I don't think her points were disjointed. She was correct that our country is not Christisn but rather founded by Freemasons. (There is no such thing as a Christian nation or godly nation, from a Biblical standpoint. All nations currently are under the dominion of Satan.) She was correct that we cannot serve two masters and that God cannot be mocked. She was correct when she prophecied at the end that the kingdom of Jesus Christ will have no end, unlike our Republic.

 

During the Russian revolution, did you know everyone who spoke against the party was sent to mental institutions for correction? History repeats itself. It will happen again.

Edited October 18, 2013 by M30USA

[pureinheart]

The Prophetic are considered weird and crazy...no doubt about that.

 

My first reaction was that her behavior was of the Lord, and feel the same as M30. Still am seeking the Lord, considering Pie's response and another posters response in he Political section...that it was a set up, I then responded in agreement that it could have been meant to discredit Christians. Christians are discredited anyway though.

 

Given what is going on politically, Capitol Hill would be the correct arena to expose the darkness.

 

The Lord has done things like this with the Prophetic for many reasons, remember His ways are not ours. When a true Prophet enters a place or speaks a Word things happen big time... her perceived disorder, or insanity (stress related according to them) could actually be accomplishing things in the Spiritual realm that we can't see.

 

No, I would agree with M30 because I have been sensing a radical move of God concerning this particular matter at the "Hill". Being quite disappointed with the GOP caving once again, the Lord began to speak to my heart saying, things are not as they seem, and that the GOP did have to cave (get out of His way) in order for Him to move, and for HIM to receive the glory.

 

A Prophets main work is to pave the way, or prepare the way for God to work to accomplish His will on earth, now does He need a person to do that? No, it's just His way.

 

My mind is racing now:D If she is in fact under the direction of God we will see something that our minds will not be able to comprehend...could you imagine all branches of gov falling on their faces before God?

 

I'm going to have to do some researching now before the Thrown:D Thanks M30, you saw this right.

[todreaminblue]

It's possible he had Delusions of Grandeur (clinically acronymed as DOG). He may therefore have also been dyslexic and read it backwards.....

 

Yes, sorry.

 

I'm being facetious.....

 

 

i really hate that term delusions of grandeur, the shrinks throw it at me all the time i sadi to them if there is anyone on the planet who does not see themselves as grand or feel they are worth less than another it is me....so dont talk to me any more you don't know crap.....that's what i say......i got told i have delusions of grandeur because i said i thought god had saved me many times that he loved me and i thought i was special because i feel god talks to me through my heart...telling em nto to commit suicide because my family will not make it without me........that is grand as far as they are concerned...diagnosis schizo affective turn her into a zombie that is much better for her not to think or feel at all...shrinks suck in the end i just agree with them yep i am crazy hit me up with medication..god rocks...deb

Edited October 18, 2013 by todreaminblue

[pureinheart]

M30- I have heard before, mainly on the History Channel, that this country was started by FM's. Possibly I have been conditioned, although have heard opposing views that we were founded as a Christian nation. It just doesn't make sense for me at this point to think any different.

 

I desire to understand - could you give your detailed POV (given you are led to)... I don't even know the right questions to ask, so could we discuss this?

[todreaminblue]

M30- I have heard before, mainly on the History Channel, that this country was started by FM's.

I desire to understand - could you give your detailed POV (given you are led to)... I don't even know the right questions to ask, so could we discuss this?

 

 

what is fms pure in heart...deb

[pureinheart]

i really hate that term delusions of grandeur, the shrinks throw it at me all the time i sadi to them if there is anyone on the planet who does not see themselves as grand or feel they are worth less than another it is me....so dont talk to me any more you don't know crap.....that's what i say......i got told i have delusions of grandeur because i said i thought god had saved me many times that he loved me and i thought i was special because i feel god talks to me through my heart...telling em nto to commit suicide because my family will not make it without me........that is grand as far as they are concerned...diagnosis schizo affective turn her into a zombie that is much better for her not to think or feel at all...shrinks suck in the end i just agree with them yep i am crazy hit me up with medication..god rocks...deb

 

Ok, now I think I understand why in another thread a couple of people accused me of thinking more of myself and wondering why I thought I was so "special". There is nothing in me special outside of Him, and it's because He is special....anything of "me" is nothing. Then am usually told I have an esteem problem:laugh:

 

That term is also used to diagnose Narcissism...personally, I think anyone can e diagnosed with anything because we're all messed up if you think about it in some way.

 

There's nothing wrong with you and God does rock! Love ya gf

[pureinheart]

what is fms pure in heart...deb

 

Free Masons love

[pureinheart]

The Prophetic are considered weird and crazy...no doubt about that.

 

My first reaction was that her behavior was of the Lord, and feel the same as M30. Still am seeking the Lord, considering Pie's response and another posters response in he Political section...that it was a set up, I then responded in agreement that it could have been meant to discredit Christians. Christians are discredited anyway though.

 

Given what is going on politically, Capitol Hill would be the correct arena to expose the darkness.

 

The Lord has done things like this with the Prophetic for many reasons, remember His ways are not ours. When a true Prophet enters a place or speaks a Word things happen big time... her perceived disorder, or insanity (stress related according to them) could actually be accomplishing things in the Spiritual realm that we can't see.

 

No, I would agree with M30 because I have been sensing a radical move of God concerning this particular matter at the "Hill". Being quite disappointed with the GOP caving once again, the Lord began to speak to my heart saying, things are not as they seem, and that the GOP did have to cave (get out of His way) in order for Him to move, and for HIM to receive the glory.

 

A Prophets main work is to pave the way, or prepare the way for God to work to accomplish His will on earth, now does He need a person to do that? No, it's just His way.

 

My mind is racing now:D If she is in fact under the direction of God we will see something that our minds will not be able to comprehend...could you imagine all branches of gov falling on their faces before God?

 

I'm going to have to do some researching now before the Thrown Thanks M30, you saw this right.

 

Correction- Throne:rolleyes:

[pureinheart]

Here's the stenographers words:

 

 

“He [God] will not be mocked,” the stenographer, apparently named Molly, yelled into the microphone as she was dragged off by security. “The greatest deception here is that this is not one nation under God. It never was. It would not have been. The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God. Praise be to Jesus.”

 

She said she was prompted (woken up) in the middle of the night by the Holy Spirit.

 

Ok, were all of the writers of the Constitution FM's?

[todreaminblue]

Free Masons love

 

 

ohhhh...smilin i thought the abbreviation was FMS.......still wouldnt have thought fm was free mason i would be thinking radio station.....)....lol....fm is cool...radio wise.....deb

[OpenBook]

“It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

 

“Make sure you are doing what God wants you to do--then do it with all your strength.”

 

These are quotes from George Washington, a Freemason.

 

'Nuf said.

[todreaminblue]

Ok, now I think I understand why in another thread a couple of people accused me of thinking more of myself and wondering why I thought I was so "special". There is nothing in me special outside of Him, and it's because He is special....anything of "me" is nothing. Then am usually told I have an esteem problem:laugh:

 

That term is also used to diagnose Narcissism...personally, I think anyone can e diagnosed with anything because we're all messed up if you think about it in some way.

 

There's nothing wrong with you and God does rock! Love ya gf

 

 

i truly believe that every mess is organized....it has order to it..you find that out when someone tidies up your room...you can no longer find what you are looking for.so your mess had an order that no one else could see but you saw it...same with god i feel..he organizes the messes that are us so that he alone understands our hearts ...shrinks do the tidy up thing with medications and you cannot find the thoughts you once had.....god knows them though he tells you later when you forget to take your medication..as far as living things go

 

 

 

look at a squid....strange looking creatures unable to be really described in one sitting...but perfectly organised ....squid....we are just squid with legs which i belive causes all the problems we have less legs or arms than we really need to handle life.....imperfectly organised and created understood by the creator messes are we....in that we are loved messes in spite of every and any perceived imperfections.....pompous shrinks however lower than squid...plankton...to me anyway...)...sigh god loves them however....i think he should make them plankton luckily i am not god or have delusions of grandeur that i am magical or special enough...because i would so change shrinks into plankton.if i were....smilin..and i would turn myself into a squid..squid are cool...the squid i saw actually were flourescent blue and so beautiful.....deb

Edited October 18, 2013 by todreaminblue

[OpenBook]

M30- I have heard before, mainly on the History Channel, that this country was started by FM's. Possibly I have been conditioned, although have heard opposing views that we were founded as a Christian nation. It just doesn't make sense for me at this point to think any different.

 

I desire to understand - could you give your detailed POV (given you are led to)... I don't even know the right questions to ask, so could we discuss this?

 

The cornerstone of the Capitol building was laid in 1793 by George Washington and others in a Masonic ceremony:

 

Freemasons For Dummies: Freemasons And The US Capitol Cornerstone

 

It was common practice for masons to have a ceremony to start construction of a building. It reflected their commitment to excellence in their craft.

 

I do not see the conflict between this and the Christian faith - and apparently, neither did George Washington.

 

Another factoid: In the early days after the Capitol was completed and Congress occupied it, they held church services in it on Sundays, and continued this practice right up until after the Civil War.

[Trimmer]

OK guys... I'll leave you to your discussion, but here's my only point:

 

Whatever you think from a spiritual point of view, if I ever have a significantly altered personality that develops in a short time like this, please call 911 and I don't care if I'm speaking about God or Satan, go ahead and have security or the paramedics drag me off, and please be sure to get me to a decent hospital with an MRI machine. You can pray over me and be amazed at my spiritual insights later, just be sure to figure out whether I've had an aneurysm or a tumor pressing on something and save my life first, OK?

[CrazyAlex]

Reading this sub-forum is like being transported to the middle ages. How can any sane individual living in the 21st century believe any of this nonsense is beyond me. Thankfully, the great majority of educated population is dismissing religion as complete nonsense and have realized that it was made up in the ancient world by the rulers to control uneducated population. Religion has no place in a civilized modern society period.

[M30USA]

Pure,

 

The best way to answer your question is to first discuss FMs. The tricky thing about FMs is that they DO believe in "god". In fact before someone is allowed to join, they must profess belief in "a" god. No specification is made as to which god it is. It could be Allah, Jehovah, or even Shiva. The FMs are clearly deists. But as they say, the devil is in the details.

 

FMs trace their legacy back to Nimrod and the Tower of Babel. They claim that their predecessors are the ones who actually built the tower. And if you know anything about it, the tower symbolized the greatness/glory of man rather than God; it was a symbolic opposition to the authority of Jehovah. This is why God destroyed it. In general, FMs to this day are associated with building and architecture which has mathematical symbolism all pertaining, in some way or another, to opposition against the true God.

 

When the FMs wrote the Decl of Ind you will notice they used generic terms like "creator". This lines up with the generic deism of FMs. They never got specific in public. But behind the scenes it's a different story. It's very much like false religion which professes one thing but in reality is another. They want to seem like they are Christian but they are not--just like the Pharisees told Jesus they believed in the Father but Jesus exposed how their real father was the devil.

 

George Washington was a FM. This is proveable. Many drafters of the founding documents were as well.

 

Another point to remember is that there is no such thing as a godly or Christian nation from a governmental standpoint. There are only godly individuals scattered throughout the land, most of whom are not in positions of power (just as Jesus wasn't). The nations of the earth have not yet become our Lord's, as Revelation prophecies they will. They are currently granted to the authority of Satan for the purpose of God to be fulfilled in this age.

 

So here's the takehome message: when a politician or founding father says "God", it doesn't mean anything. Anyone can use whatever words they want. But by their fruits ye shall know them. It's hard to accept the fact that, while we have a deist heritage, our country was not founded in obedience to the true lord Jesus Christ. I wanted to believe this for a long time but regretfully found it wasn't the case.

Edited October 18, 2013 by M30USA

[M30USA]

Reading this sub-forum is like being transported to the middle ages. How can any sane individual living in the 21st century believe any of this nonsense is beyond me. Thankfully, the great majority of educated population is dismissing religion as complete nonsense and have realized that it was made up in the ancient world by the rulers to control uneducated population. Religion has no place in a civilized modern society period.

 

God in his wisdom has chosen the foolish things of the world (ie, Gospel) to be the avenue by which we are saved from his wrath. He did this so as to keep any man from boasting in his presence, and because human wisdom has not helped us know who He is, therefore human wisdom is futile. What you view as nonsense is the live-giving power of truth and salvation.

Edited October 18, 2013 by M30USA