ThumbingMyWay Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Moose Too bad everyone sees this as a holier than thou attitude......all I can say about that is tough cookies. Like I said.....I admire your conviction. Link to post Share on other sites
michelangelo Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Moose, I'm not buying your act for a minute. Is your concern for the needy rooted in some kind of Christian charity? If it is, just what part of that Christian charity is your blast across the bow rooted in? Do you have any spare cash? Any savings? Have you ever gone on a vacation? Have you gone out to eat? Have you ever gone to a sporting event? If you can answer yes to any of those questions, then by your way of thinking you are failing the needy people of this world. So if you are failing the needy people of this world, how can you lambast Sweetz for attempting to salvage her marriage? What if this symbolic gesture allows her to not spend $1,000 on marriage counselling? You really need to reflect better on the way of things before posting. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Moose Sweetz, that sound like a worth while service, I'm just saying though that you threw away $1000.00 and it was a total waste! TOTAL! Nobody in this world, (Besides you I guess), can say that they couldn't use an extra $1000.00......were you just bragging on the fact that you're independently wealthy or something? It's a disgrace, and I can't help thinking of how that money could've been put towards something worth while......you should be ashamed at such an ignorant decision. I don't believe I have ever claimed to be independently wealthy. I don't know where you got that from. But anyways, I hear your point of view even though I don't agree with it. Your point has been heard. Thanks to those that understood why I did what I did. If I had to do again, I would do the same. You can call me selfish, I don't care. All I care about is doing the right thing within my marriage for myself and my husband. If that is selfish, then so be it. When I was cheating on the H I was called selfish and I will not disagree with that. Now I am trying to continue taking steps forward to make things work and not step back and being called selfish. I guess I can't win with all the people, just those whose opinion I value. Link to post Share on other sites
FolderWife Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 You could send it to me. I was hoping for a tennis bracelet for Christmas Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Monday You could send it to me. I was hoping for a tennis bracelet for Christmas I would but Moose might get mad so I better not. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Sweetz I guess I can't win with all the people, just those whose opinion I value. Oh...mine of course!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Owl Oh...mine of course!!!! MOST DEFINITELY! OWL IS THE MAN OF THE HOUR! Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I'm not buying your act for a minute. OH GREAT! I'm busted.....my entire life has been an act! Shame on me! ( Yeah right ) Is your concern for the needy rooted in some kind of Christian charity? If it is, just what part of that Christian charity is your blast across the bow rooted in? Do you have any spare cash? Any savings? Have you ever gone on a vacation? Have you gone out to eat? Have you ever gone to a sporting event? If you can answer yes to any of those questions, then by your way of thinking you are failing the needy people of this world. You are the last person in the world that I need to justify my faith, AND, my spending to. You're chewing me out for not spending every friggin extra dime I have for the needy when Sweetz threw away $1,000.00......makes a lot of sense to me......NOT! Thanks to those that understood why I did what I did. If I had to do again, I would do the same. You can call me selfish, I don't care. And again, I would disagree with your actions, but hey....you've proved to everyone how wasteful you can be, why not prove how much of a slow learner you can be as well? All I care about is doing the right thing within my marriage for myself and my husband. Good for you! I'm glad that you're trying to make things work....I really am. I guess I can't win with all the people, just those whose opinion I value. Typical arrogance from someone who only listens to what they want to hear, and not the truth......personally, I don't care if you value my opinion or not. The affair is over, yet you still carry enough baggage to cause you to make poor decisions even now. All that tells me is that you still have feelings for your OM.....may be of hate, but it's still consuming your thoughts, which is still cheating if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 SHEESH... You all need to lighten up and go get a beer or something!!! SWEETZ posted, got advice, made her choice, took the action she thought was appropriate. ENOUGH with all the BS about who's spending money on charity or whatever....we don't really give a rat's tuckus if you do or don't. You all have made your point...now let it go. It will be ok, really, it will be.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Moose And again, I would disagree with your actions, but hey....you've proved to everyone how wasteful you can be, why not prove how much of a slow learner you can be as well? Typical arrogance from someone who only listens to what they want to hear, and not the truth......personally, I don't care if you value my opinion or not. The affair is over, yet you still carry enough baggage to cause you to make poor decisions even now. All that tells me is that you still have feelings for your OM.....may be of hate, but it's still consuming your thoughts, which is still cheating if you ask me. Wow, now we are resorting to name calling? I am not shocked actually. Yes, I am a slower learner. That's what they told me at UCLA and Pepperdine where I graduated with my MBA from. You figured me all out. You sound very angry and upset. Perhaps someone did you very wrong in the past and YOU are the one still carrying around old feelings of hate and consuming your thoughts. GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY! Link to post Share on other sites
michelangelo Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Moose, I'm chewing you out for telling someone else they are wasting money--out of your faux concern for the needy--when you are not doing all that you can for the needy. You won't try to justify yourself to me because you can't justify your faulty logic, nor can you justify a faith that would allow you to berate folks. BTW, I was raised in poverty and have been cheated upon. I am one of those that urged her to do exactly what she did. BTW II, I keep on you about your own spending on things not basic to survival because you could be sending all that spare resources to the needy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Owl SHEESH... You all need to lighten up and go get a beer or something!!! SWEETZ posted, got advice, made her choice, took the action she thought was appropriate. ENOUGH with all the BS about who's spending money on charity or whatever....we don't really give a rat's tuckus if you do or don't. You all have made your point...now let it go. It will be ok, really, it will be.... Everyone please listen to Owl. He knows what he's talking about. The man is sharp! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by michelangelo BTW, I was raised in poverty and have been cheated upon. I am one of those that urged her to do exactly what she did. As a man who has been cheated on, who else to get better advice from than you? Thanks Michelangelo. Link to post Share on other sites
michelangelo Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Thanks, But I'll stop thread hijacking now. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I'm chewing you out for telling someone else they are wasting money--out of your faux concern for the needy--when you are not doing all that you can for the needy. Says you, who's the judge here? You won't try to justify yourself to me because you can't justify your faulty logic, nor can you justify a faith that would allow you to berate folks. I'm not berating anyone......a lot of people make mistakes, and don't learn from them, ( Me included ), You have no room to even talk about logic if you don't think this was a waste of money..... BTW, I was raised in poverty and have been cheated upon. I am one of those that urged her to do exactly what she did. Ignorance breeds ignorance. Keep making foolish moves like this and you'll soon be back at home in poverty. BTW II, I keep on you about your own spending on things not basic to survival because you could be sending all that spare resources to the needy. God comes first, then my family, the rest come last. Like I said, I donate on a regular basis, I don't need to prove to anyone, especially you, what I do for the needy. Like I've said, this was a waste. That's it! It's my opinion that it was a mistake, one that could be a learning experience, one that pissed me off, and I'm not going to apologize for that. Like Owl, and Sweetz are saying, michelangelo, we've stated our thoughts, get over it! Quit with the come backs, because opinions are hard to drop, especially mine. <<<<<<<<<<< Walks off shaking his head>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to post Share on other sites
michelangelo Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Moose, I think you really missed my point entirely. I really do not care how you spend your money, how sweetz spends her money, how anyone spends their money. My point is in you berating her for her decision to discard something "valuable". Yes, you did do that. All of us waste resources--by someone else's definition of both wasting and resources. We also spend money or consume resources in a manner that others would not like. I just wanted to shift to you "blame" for your own wasteful ways at the expense of the needy. And see that you shouldn't be pointing a finger about consumption or waste in such a vigorouus way. Link to post Share on other sites
Joyce Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 OMG let it go. It's only an opinion!! Agree to disagree and move on. Sweetz, How are things going with your H? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by michelangelo Moose, I think you really missed my point entirely. I really do not care how you spend your money, how sweetz spends her money, how anyone spends their money. My point is in you berating her for her decision to discard something "valuable". Yes, you did do that. All of us waste resources--by someone else's definition of both wasting and resources. We also spend money or consume resources in a manner that others would not like. I just wanted to shift to you "blame" for your own wasteful ways at the expense of the needy. And see that you shouldn't be pointing a finger about consumption or waste in such a vigorouus way. Good post Michelangelo. I think we can put this one to rest (hopefully) Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Give me a break!!!! This isn't worth trying to explain to you.....JEEEEZ! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Joyce OMG let it go. It's only an opinion!! Agree to disagree and move on. Sweetz, How are things going with your H? Things couldn't be better. Believe me when I say I regret what I did. This is the man that I allowed years and years to pass by without appreciating who he is and what he does for me and our family. I am so stupid looking back. I am also suprised at how willing he was to work things through. We hacked things out and only once did he bring up the affair again out of anger. We'll be fine in the end, I know that for certain. Thanks for asking Joyce. How are you doing? Link to post Share on other sites
Joyce Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I'm glad things are going well for you sweetz. Have you ran into your OM at all? I was just wondering with Christmas parties and everything... I am doing good. I still have some rough days but it's getting easier. We're still trying to figure out where to move. We will both be extremely happy when we are far far away from the OM. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Joyce I'm glad things are going well for you sweetz. Have you ran into your OM at all? I was just wondering with Christmas parties and everything... I am doing good. I still have some rough days but it's getting easier. We're still trying to figure out where to move. We will both be extremely happy when we are far far away from the OM. I have not run into the OM and have no plans of attending any functions where that will happen right now. We do have a big business meeting next year where we may run into him, but we will discuss this I am sure before the time comes. If I did see him, I'd just turn around and walk the other way. I have zero desire for him now. My husband has really stepped up to the plate and I have rid of the wall I built around myself by letting go off the OM and the fantasies that surrounded our relationship. I don't want to take any more chances in losing what I have. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 WTG Sweetz!! "nother question though.... I know that you mentioned that your husband worked with this guy...that he "looked up" to him somewhat, and considered him a friend. So how did that work out? Has your husband confronted him, and how is your husband dealing with that now? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Sweetz Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by Owl WTG Sweetz!! "nother question though.... I know that you mentioned that your husband worked with this guy...that he "looked up" to him somewhat, and considered him a friend. So how did that work out? Has your husband confronted him, and how is your husband dealing with that now? Since he found out, he no longer looks up to him, obviously. He thinks very little of him nowadays. I use to hear his name on a daily basis and now it's never spoken. I know it hurt him to find out but again, I felt I owed it to him to let him know the truth about things. This OM was very mean to my H, and my H never knew it. Example: the OM would invite my H out somewhere with him and if my H agreed and wanted to go, all off a sudden, there was a change in plans and my H couldnt go for one reason or another. But he was so slick about it, my H never caught on he was being played. My H has not seen or heard from him since I confessed. They work in the same business and see each other several times a year at meetings but not on a daily or even regular basis. How has he dealt with it? Well, he keeps things to himself a lot. But I know that he is hurt by it. But he is a trooper and doesn't let that stand in the way of things. He continues to go forward in life and try to find peace in it all. Link to post Share on other sites
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