Lets make 2005 a good one, we can do it!!!!

[Urban Rubble01]

Well that was a pretty serious analysis, one that I won't try to match !

 

Your point about Manning's getting attention for the TD record and not the rating record is spot on, my friend and I were actually bitching about that during the Colts game. QB rating is SO much more impressive and it is much more indicitive of how the guy plays.

 

Favre ? Well, I'll always like Favre because of his earlier seasons. But I think his time is winding down.

 

Damnit, you're right about Rothlesberger.

 

As for the Seahawks, I'm confident they'll turn it around next season (that's the rallying cry of Seattle sports fans EVERY year). Their WR problem isn't as bad as it would seem. Rice has at least another season or 2 in him. Jackson is a solid receiver, he just needs to work on his dropped passes. What concerns me is, will Shaun Alexander and Matt Hasselbeck come back ? I'm still unsure as to whether or not we WANT coach Holmgren back.

 

 

Oh, yeah, this is a relationship forum. Ummm.....well........ all I have to report is that I just woke up from a night of various dreams about my ex. Damnit, when does that end ? I wake up thinking we're back together, I wake up thinking we never broke up, I wake up thinking that she's in my bed. It gets old.

[Three of Swords]

RE Tattoo - if this link works - it is the tree (minus the red background) I like the fact that it is the tree of life and DEATH (I have a dark side)

 

http://www.prototista.org/Biographies/Body%20Art.htm

 

My tattoo is about 10 to 11 inches long and about 5 - 6 inches wide. (never actually measured it yet - kinda hard to as its on my back

 

Covers my back from just under my neck to the top of my bra - and it is in between the shoulder blades - in other words centred in the top part of my upper back. So far it is the outline with partial fill in the branches and roots. It still has to be filled in.

 

It is my second tattoo. The other one is on the inside of my right calf. It is a twisted heart with a drop of blood depicted onto one of the twists. I drew that one myself - it has deep meaning to me. It is about 7 inches long and 3 inches wide. (I live in Canada - but have not converted to the metric system!

 

They say tattoos are addictive. And I concur. It is not my intention to look like I could be riding a Harley - but I have already decided I want another one.

 

I am looking for a symbol for hope. The only one I have found so far is a two character Asian symbol which I found on the internet - and I am somewhat leary of using this as really how do I know it is correctly posted?

 

So if anyone has any references for me to check out - post them or send them via pm. It would be appreciated.

 

(a doctor shying from needles - cute (and perhaps ironic?)

[bigacesteve]

Hi everyone, not been on for a while.

 

drjones,

No idea what is going on with the ex mate; I'm thinking of giving up altogether now. I've sent her text messages and she's always replied but the texts say nothing to me. Spoken a few times also but there has been no mention of us meeting up so I think I'm going to have to scrap the idea before I get hurt again.

 

Vicki has texted me again today a couple of times but I still don't know what she wants.

 

It's a good job I'm such a strong person or I think I'd have a bloody break down with all this. My good friend Bethan rang me on Sunday morning crying her eyes out because she'd dumped her boyfriend early in the morning because she'd found out he'd cheated on his previous girlfriend. She asked me to go around so I went around her house and we talked about what was happening to her.

Her 'boyfriend' was on holiday skiing and she was here in sunny Stoke-on-Trent. She had been out with her fellas friends and relatives and she'd overheard someone talking about her boyfriend cheating on his previous girlfriend for over a month or so. Bethan went a bit ape and rang her ex and told him it was over. He told her that he had kept his past hidden because he knew she would dump him if she found out. She wouldn't listen to him and screamed abuse and hung up on him. I just told her that all that happened was in the past and that she should at least listen to what he has to say. They both seem really in love with each other and have lived together for nearly a year now and everything was going brill. She asked me if any of my friends had cheated on a girlfriend before and I really couldn't think of anyone, which didn't really help his defence any. I thought it was quite a good point she put across though.

She asked me how long does it take to get over an ex you're in love with and I replied "a long *****ing time, I'm still suffering 4 months down the road". She didn't like that answer but it's the truth.

 

Not long now till I start my new job and life. I finish my IT Consultancy job on the 21st Jan, 10 days off and then start on the 31st Jan. CAN'T WAIT!!!

 

I'll be back

[djones]

Hey Guys

 

3 of Swords--- cool tattoo, I will keep my eyes open for the other tattoo you are looking for....hehe its kind of funny about me with needles, I have given many shots to people and put in IV lines and I still hate the idea of someone else pokeing me with one ......I guess I dont like my own medicine .....you second tattoo sounds real interesting, real neat.

 

BAS--- good to hear from you buddy!....yeah I dont know what is up with your ex and Viki, she is hard to figure out what the hell does she want. I am sorry to hear about your friend.....Actually it brings up an interesting question for the rest of the gang here:

 

Would you guys break up with someone if you found out that had cheated in their past realitionship? But they have not cheated on you....I have to make that clear.....would the idea "once a cheater always a cheater" does that brand a person for life?......it seems like in BAS frineds case that it has, I dont know the guy so I dont know if he did ever cheat on BAS friend, but either way the realtionship has ended...its an interesting can of worms being opened up, I am not sure how I would deal with it too, you could say hey that they love you and they have not given you a reason to think that they have cheated on you, but on the other side, you know they are capable of doing that to you. I guess if I was in that postion I would just tell my signifcant other if they are not happy in anyway with the realtionship just break it off with me and be with the other person, why be with someone that does not care for you.....Whats the gang's thought on this question?

[bigacesteve]

Wait a min...

 

Ex just rang, really pleasant, wants to meet me now.

 

Unbelievable

 

Laters

[Weird]

UB,

 

hehe yeah dude the lack of appreciation for qb ratings bugs me as I am a qb rating whore (just ask head/heels here. Derek knows. hahaha).....prolly doesnt help that my fav athlete/entertainer/celebrity/whatever of all time is Steve Young who just happens to hold the record for best career rating in history so when I see the stat get blown off by the media it really burns my biscuit. hehehe

 

I think Jerry has at least another season in him but it seems teams dont want to pass to him and I dont want him to go out with 10 receptions and 80 yards...I just find it amazing not one throw went his way in that playoff game. I just cant believe he couldn't get open once to warrant one throw. Seahawks meet the Colts next year in the season...that shoud be a high scoring game.

 

As for Holmgren,shame he didn't turn out to be what everyone expected him to be when he came to the hawks. Ah well...

 

As for the dreams of the ex, yeah they suck....I remmeber when I sued ot ahve them and would feel bad in the morning...but also at time good because i woudl smile at the dream if it was a good dream. hehe

[Weird]

Doc,

 

good point about the year only being 18 days old and can get better...but on the flip side it could end up sucking. This was the case for 2004. I went into 2004 with such high hopes since 2003 was a junk year for me. 2004 didn't start off to be anythign special and well, it just continued from the letdown that was 2003. Again, most of this was not so much stuff in my life directly but crap around the world and then of course stuff happening to people I like, all of you included. I am hoping 2005 will be a great year for all the people here and the rest of the world as well.

 

Oh and that is funny you are afraid of needles. hehehe. I have no probs with needles personally (watched a dude take my blood a few years ago and was thinking to myself "that's cool") but I do know I would never get a tattoo...just not my cup of tea but to those who like them then that's great.

 

 

As for breaking up with someone who cheated in the past...I think I would unless when she cheated she was super young and when I was with her was down the line. So say she cheated when she was 20 but is now 40. I'd like to think she wouldnt do it again and has grown up since then. Now if she cheated when she was 20 and I was with her when she was 23, I'd break it off.

 

Naturally this is what I say not having been in that situation and if I was in that situation I may (probably would) do totally the opposite of what I say here.

 

 

Steve,

 

damn dude, I think you need to just give up on these women for the time being. They are too messed up there it seems. Must be something in the water.

 

 

 

 

Here is a question to the group....

 

am I the only person here who actually likes being single? Dont get me wrong, if this great amazing girl who I was almost positive was "the one" came along and wanted to be with me I'd just at it but aside from that perfect girl I enjoy being single and am in no rush to get with someone simply for the sake of being with someone.

 

I think it comes down to that without having a girl i can do whatever I want and dont have added stress in my life from her/the relationship. With a girl I'm sure I'd have to change some of the stuff I do with my free time because she would find it boring and would be bitching at me...unless she was MJ. MJ seems to do junk I do.

[Urban Rubble01]

Weird:

 

Well, your point about Rice not getting any passes relates to my point about being unsure of whether or not Holmgren should come back. The guy makes SO many ridiculous mistakes ! He's the kind of coach has a 3rd and 10 situation and runs the ball.

 

Did you see the last Hawks game of the year against the Falcons ? Shaun Alexander finished the game 1 SINGLE yard short of the NFL rushing title. Why was he 1 yard short ? Because Holmgren only gave him 9 chances. Because on a 3rd and goal situation he let Hasselbeck do a sneak instead of letting Alexander have the sure thing.

 

He's a fairly good coach, and probably better than the alternatives we'd have, but still, he pisses me off. And he looks like a walrus.

 

Jerry Rice is probably my all time favorite player (I have memories of being 7 or 8 and just OBSESSED with the 1989 49'ers) and yeah, it sucks to see him underutilized. But I really respect the fact that he hasn't opened his mouth against Holmgren and he continues to run his patterns hard every game.

 

The hard part about the dream thing is that I trick myself into thinking they're real ! I have these great dreams about kissing her and being out with her, when I wake up there's always this 10 second confusion where I think we're back together, and then I realize we aren't. One thing that was pretty weird, one night about a month ago when I stayed over at her house, I woke up from a dream about her. At first I thought it was real and that we were together, then I got sad because I realized it was just a dream, but this time, I looked over and she was actually in bed with me ! Talk about a mind***** !

 

 

BAS,

 

Good luck.

 

 

DrJones,

 

I'm the type that tries to "let the past be the past". If my girl had cheated on a guy a long time ago, it would probably bother me initially, but if I love her I'd get over it. I don't believe for a second the "once a cheater always a cheater" line, I think that's crap. Maybe that person just made a mistake ? Maybe they were more immature then ? What if they just didn't really care for that person they cheated on ? No, I judge my partner on what she does while she is with me, not on past mistakes. If you have a suspicion she's cheating, then that's one thing, but if she hasn't done anything wrong then it's ridiculous to judge her on what she did years ago.

[djones]

Hey Guys,

 

UR01---good point I think you are right you have to base the person you are with on the relationship that you two are having. If they cheat on you thats a different story....their past is their past

 

Weird--- yeah the year could suck thats true, last year in particular the last half sucked big time for me and I dont know how I would have gotten through with it with you guys...in my past I have had some real bad years with other stuff, I know everyone has too. I just hope that maybe this year will be different for all of us....p/s the needle thing yeah its weird I know, I have stuck an epidural needle in a patients spine (a long a$$ needle) and not flinch but for me getting stuck hehe differnt story ....I guess we all have our neurotic sides

oh as for your question about being single...I was happy before my ex being single and was real comfortable with it ( i was single for a real long time) and then with the break up, I kind said to my self that I was better off being single, I think if my new girl did not come around I would have been single for while again. But so far am real happy that this girl found me now....being single has taught me that i am comfortable with myself and that I dont need to find the first person to latch on, you can actually get to know a person more and then make a decison if you want to go further with that person. I think sometimes people rush in to bad realtionships, just b/c they need someone....thats my 2 cents on the topic

 

take care

[bigacesteve]

Hi everyone, she's just gone.

 

We've had a good night together and she wants to go out again. Didn't want to press her with loads of questions so I don't feel that much the wiser about what's going on. I do think she wants to take it easy though at the moment. I can tell that she is really fighting to stop herself jumping on me. What I don't understand is why she keeps stopping herself from getting close to me when she says that's what she wants to do? I agree with Weird, those ex's are mixed up.

 

Maybe I got a little progress tonight, we'll see heh??

 

Yea my friend Bethan said that she felt sick that her boyfriend had cheated on his ex. Even though it was in the past, it was not that long ago. She says that he still gets messages from his ex and she still has no idea that he cheated on her.

 

Going bed now because I feel worn out

[head/heels]

yeah our exes are crazy!!!!!

 

dont let it get to ya BAS

 

the second you start to show you are totally into her and want her full time, she might get over that initial excitement....so keep your cards close to your vest for now and let her open up to you?

 

try to be that guy she fell in love with and not the one she let go of.....she needs to see the man we see on LS

strong, there for his friends, ambitious, outgoing, fun, and active...dont let her know that she is your everything, even if she is!

 

that can wait til when you get closer or you are married! so until she has that ring on her finger, live for yourself and live like you are dying!

that goes for all of ya!

 

well, i did have a great weekend, a great girl, and a good time...we enjoyed each others company (maybe a little too much, but it was a welcome change for each of us)

 

just realize that each day we dont go out and seize it, we lose it forever....and the only one that will judge us is the one and only.....

 

so live like there is no tomorrow

derek

[bigacesteve]

head/heels,

cheers for the advice, you are absolutely right, I must carry on as though my ex is still ignoring me. I like what you said 'live for yourself and live like you are dying!'

 

I think when I start my new career a lot of things will change in my life for the better. I'm so flippin excited now. Can't wait to put that uniform on again, I looked cool. No villain is going to want to mess.

 

Only 3 days left at this boring job. I'll miss my work mates but I won't miss this dull, repetitive work

[djones]

Hey Gang,

 

HandH--- you hit the nail right on the head!!!, we all have to start living for ourselves and live each day like we are dying!!.....why should our exes live life and we are still in mourning over a relationship that we all wanted but they did not....you are right life is too short, we all need someone that wants us for who we are, so go out there and enjoy ourselves and that person will show up.

 

Glad to hear you have a great time last weekend, keep us posted on how its working out for you two. I am happy for you!!

 

BAS---I totaly agree with HandH on this one your ex is still in that uncertain stage, like HandH said let her open up to you, you know how you feel about her and she knows that too, so its now her turn to open up to you!! .....I gave my ex every opportunity to open up to me after she broke up with that guy she dated and she damn well knows how I feel about her, so the ball was in her court and she did not tell me how she felt when I know she does love me but whatever her reason for holding back is her problem now.....BAS you did the same as well to your ex........Now let her come to you now, you did not break up with her she did and now she has to come back and prove that she loves you and will not leave you....we all gave our exes "breaks" to come back to us now that she hints that she wants you back, make her work for it, so that you know she is are serious....

 

well guys take care,

[Weird]

Urb,

 

hehe yeah the qb sneak in that last play was an odd play. I think Favre and Holmgren were a good match because Favre has done jack without him and Holmgren jack without Favre.

 

I know all baout hating the coach of a team...when i was a 49ers fan (stopped once Young retired) I HATED Mariucci and was confident they would never get to the SB with him as a coach. He was such an assclown and good to see he is doing nothing in Detroit. The best was when he came in people raved on how good a coach he was...BS. He just had a great QB and a pretty good team to save his ass.

 

 

 

Heels,

 

Duuuuuude, you need to tell me abut the weekend already, you prick. Get on AIM right now and tell me. thanks.

 

 

 

 

Steve,

 

All I know is be cautious with this broad. It'd be a shame if she keeps showing interest and then pulls away for good and leaves you with even more fugged up emotions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the "live each day like we are dying" comment...guys, we are dying each day. But, I know what the point is in that statement and I agree with it to a degree. Yes, people should not sit there and wait for things but also they should not go out and do whatever so they need to take tht mnatra in moderation. I have seen too many people who go on about "life is too short" and fug up their lives early on only to realize life is loooooong and they spend the rest of it messed up in some way. I'm only 26 but it feels like I've been on this earth for an eternity when in reality I probably have another 50 years left. Sheesh.

[Weird]

MJ going to this class about leaving it into Gods hands is very interesting, I would give that guy giving the lecture a run for his money. Leaving things in Gods hands, hmm very interesting, is it part of his doing that we must endure the bad before we see good?...well I am not going to go deep on that right now....

 

Wanted to comment on this...

 

I tend to not be of the "everything is in Gods hands" belief because we were given free will and make our own choices. However, God knows every choice we will make even before we do it (since God has no timeline and can see at any point of our timeline past, present or future) and would not put each one of us into a situation He knows we couldn't handle. That is my take on things.

 

As for us enduring bad to see the good...yep, that is the truth. People can not grow or learn if there are no mistakes. If one believes in God and heaven/hell then they need to see that our life on this planet is basically an audition for an eternal life with God in heaven. Basically, our life is to learn how to love one another and be ready to be with God. Many people who don't believe in God or have doubts use the "well if God exists why is there pain in the world?" argument...well there is pain and bad in the world because what good would heaven be if this world was free of hurt and was perfect? And again, how would anyone ever learn about life if they never had to face real adversity?

 

I liken it to a computer game like The Sims....you can control certain aspects of their lives but for the most part you let them roam around and do what they decide to do. I think that is what God does...it would be no point if we were just his puppets and he controlled every aspect of our lives because God created us to be with him once we are done here. Kids do not leave everything in the hands of their parents so I dont think everything we do in our lives is soley in the hands of God. Think of God as the ultimate parent, which He is...he will let you make your own decisions whether right or wrong but He is there to watch over you to make sure you dont get into anything you honestly can't handle and if you are having a real hard time coping wiht that situation maybe he bails you out in some way.

 

One thing I can't stand is when athletes or whoever go and thank God for their win acting like God favours their team over the other. Yeah, I am sure God is a Steelers fan or something and hates say, the Jets. This crap bugs me so much.

 

All I know is if I was God I'd look at the human race and be sad for how they have fugged up many things in the world and how sooooo many basically crapped on the gift I gave them. Sheesh. I have no idea why he hasn't just pulled the plug on this planet but I can only guess that maybe things will indeed get better. That or he is just waiting for things to hit rock bottom and is there watching life on this planet like the car wreck it is before he gets bored and wipes out everything. All I know is that is some high level of patience.

[Urban Rubble01]

I tend to not be of the "everything is in Gods hands" belief because we were given free will and make our own choices. However, God knows every choice we will make even before we do it (since God has no timeline and can see at any point of our timeline past, present or future) and would not put each one of us into a situation He knows we couldn't handle. That is my take on things.

 

Well, I'm not sure how much I've talked about my "beliefs" (or lack thereof), but I thought I'd comment on this.

 

I agree with Weird, whether or not I believe in God, the thought of "Just leave it up to God" bothers me. That kind of thought right there is why I think Karl Marx's comment of "Religion is the opiate of the masses" was SPOT ON.

 

Belief in God is fine with me. In fact, I wish I had a full belief like that because it would make my life SO much easier to know that there is someone "up there" who cares about me and who is watching out for me. However, I think spirituality becomes VERY dangerous when you start to look at it in terms of "God's plan". When people start to think their life is structured accordingly to "god's plan" it makes them want to stop FIGHTING for what they think is right. As we all know, the only way social progress has come about is when people get fed up and begin to fight what opresses them. How are we ever going to get the will to fight, the will to progress, if we are mired in the thought that God has already got it planned and any actions we take are irrelevant ? Society will never progress if people have the mind set that there is a God up there who is controlling everything.

 

Remember in the 60's when all the civil rights stuff was happening ? The Christians in this country were absolutely opposed to the emancipation of the black race. Why ? Because in America blacks had never been free, "God" had not changed things in America, so why should they fight to change it ?

 

Same with workers being given rights like an 8 hour day or a minimum wage. Same with women being given the rights to work, vote and drive. Same with minorities being allowed to use the same establishment as whites. And in present day, it's the same with the gay rights movement. Institutionalized religions in America were opposed to every one of these advancements in society. And WHY were they opposed to these things ? Because GOD hadn't changed them on his own, so why should they be bothered to do it themselves ?

 

I'm fine with a belief in God and spirituality, but living your life according to some abstract being's "plan" is not only reactionary, it's dangerous.

 

O.K, end of rant. I don't mean to sound like I hate religious people, I don't. I just grew up in a strict conservative Christian home and evertually rejected everything I was taught. At this point in my life I'm unsure of what I believe as far as God and all that, but one thing I'm beyond sure about is the fact that I despise organized religions and a good portion of the folks who adhere to them. But some of my best friends and family are very "relgious", so don't think I hold it against everyone. There are plenty of sensible, well educated Christians, unfortunately they're the minority.

[Weird]

I'm with ya...I do not like organized religions because most people who are in them are flat out HYPOCRITES. I was baptized in the Catholic church but I think catholism is horrible because it is so damn ancient in how they go about stuff. I tend to find many practicing Catholics to be amusing...they go on about love and peace yet have no probs backing the bombing of other people who dont happen to be of the same religion. How exactly is that peace and love? I see this in all the other Christian sects too and in other religions as well.

 

The funny thing is I am not into the organized religion stuff nor do I practice one yet I KNOW I live my life better than many of those so-called religious people and am even more religious than them. Hell, one of my best buddies used to always tell me this even when I didn't truly believe God existed (i went from believing to not believing to back to believing) or had my huge doubts about that. He is very religious and would always say how ironic it was that I am who isn't religious yet act in a more religious way than those who claim they are very religious. I just laugh when I think about how a guy can go be snorting coke, beat the crap out of his woman, rob people and then go to church on Sunday thinking he is living his life in a loving Chrsitian way. It is funny to me and I think it is people like those guys who turn believing in Jesus/God or whatever, off to those non believers. Also, I cant stand the bible thumpers who go around preaching their word to strangers and saying they are going to hell because they are sinners. The religious nutbags are horrible and again, are flat out hypocrites and are just flat out not real Chrsitians.

 

The way I see myself is that I have my belief and I try to live my life in a moral way. I try to be nice to my fellow man and treat him/her how I want to be treated but it is hard when the majority of people in this world are assclowns who are so selfish. Aside from that, I do not preach to others about what they should believe nor do I criticize others for not believing in what I may believe. I am just one little spec in this big world so wtf am I to tell others what to do or what to think? I doubt most people in my "real life" even know what I believe since I never preach on about it.

 

Oh and to those who arent relgious and think all Chrsitians are hypocritical nutbags who think all gays and other minorities are going to hell...we're not all like that. I have nothing against gays or gay marriage or anything like that. Marriage lost whatever holiness it had when the divorce rate hit 50+%. Anyone who still acts like marriage is some holy union and gays marrying damages that needs to get a clue and first look at the divorce rate between these supposed holy unions...

[head/heels]

"You have to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you got, remember what you had, always forgive, but never forget, learn from your mistakes, but never regret, people change, things go wrong, just remember life goes on..."

[Urban Rubble01]

Well, I wasn't going to beat the religion thing to death, but Weird made me think of a few things.

 

I tend to find many practicing Catholics to be amusing...they go on about love and peace yet have no probs backing the bombing of other people who dont happen to be of the same religion. How exactly is that peace and love? I see this in all the other Christian sects too and in other religions as well.

 

Heh, yeah, that's one that I don't get. I find it odd how the Republican/Conservative/Bush supporters have been labelled as the "spiritual" Americans. It amazes me that people think Republicans (and George Bush) are the ones with "Christian morals". Can someone tell me, when did Jesus become pro-war, pro-gun and especially, pro-rich ? Didn't the bible say something about it being "harder for a camel to go through the eye of a needle" than it is for a rich man to get into heaven ? Hmmmm, you've got the Dems supporting Gay rights and abortion, and they're looked at as "un-christian", yet the Republicans are blowing up countries and giving tax breaks to the richest 5% of Americans and they're seen as the ones with morals ? Which is worse ? Gays getting married or a few hundred thousand dead Iraqi civilians ?

 

Also, I cant stand the bible thumpers who go around preaching their word to strangers and saying they are going to hell because they are sinners. The religious nutbags are horrible and again, are flat out hypocrites and are just flat out not real Chrsitians.

 

Well I'll let you in on a guarenteed way to stump them !

 

Christians always tell me that if a person never heard about Jesus, they wouldn't be sent to hell for not worshiping him, you'll only be put in hell if you hear about Jesus and reject him. O.K, so say there is a village in Zimbabwe where they've never heard about Jesus. If these people were left alone, they'd live and die, and since they'd never heard of Jesus they'd go to heaven, right ? So if a missionary comes and tells them about Jesus, wouldn't that be a bad thing ? Before the missionary, all of them were going to heaven, but now that they've been given the choice, there will be at least a few who don't accept it, and therefore they go to hell. Wouldn't they have been better never having to make that choice so they ALL go to heaven ?

 

I've never gotten an answer on that.

 

The way I see myself is that I have my belief and I try to live my life in a moral way. I try to be nice to my fellow man and treat him/her how I want to be treated but it is hard when the majority of people in this world are assclowns who are so selfish.

 

And that's what I try to do as well. Unfortunately, Christians (and the Bible) say if I live a perfect life as free of sin as possible, I'll still burn if I never accept the word of Jesus. Does that make sense ? Would YOUR God send a good man to hell simply for being confused about which of the 100000 religions to pick from ?

 

Oh and to those who arent relgious and think all Chrsitians are hypocritical nutbags who think all gays and other minorities are going to hell...we're not all like that. I have nothing against gays or gay marriage or anything like that. Marriage lost whatever holiness it had when the divorce rate hit 50+%. Anyone who still acts like marriage is some holy union and gays marrying damages that needs to get a clue and first look at the divorce rate between these supposed holy unions...

 

Well, I know that not all Christians are reactionary bigots, but a good portion of them are whether they realize it or not. Take my parents for example: Both of them are "opposed" to homosexuality (I put in the quote because it's ridiculous to be against something that can't be controlled, it's like being opposed to brown eyes). They are good people, they don't hate anyone and I'm sure they'd help a gay man out if he needed it. However, they still believe that it's "a sin" and "a bad lifestyle choice" (again, as if it's a choice). No matter how nice they are to their faces, they still think that these people are somehow "wrong". They wouldn't spit in their faces, but they don't treat them the same they would a "straight" person.

 

It would be like me saying "I don't hate blacks, I just think they are wrong to have dark skin". I may not be actively hating them, but I would STILL be looking at them as second class citizens. Obviously there's a difference between discrimination like I laid out and the more serious kind of hatred, but it's STILL discrimination.

 

But you're right, it's amazing that our "leaders" think that gay marriage is going to somehow make regular marriage less "sacred". Let's see, we allow TV shows that choose a bride based on a series of phsyical contests, we have drive thru chapels in Vegas, there are places where you can be married by a person dressed as the rockstar or celebrity of your choice, 60% of people who marry get DIVORCED in this country, yet we're stopping adults who are IN LOVE from getting married ? Hmmm, 2 men who love each other getting married or having a TV audience put two people together, which is worse ?

[Nick14]

Well, guys its me again. I had to do the inevitiable and break up with this new chick. Two reasons why, 1)I need to love myself and be happy on a consistent basis before I can even make anyone happy or love them and 2)I am still not over my ex and with how she ****ed with my head, so that makes me scared to be in a relationship and thats not fair to this new chick. I talked to my grandfather and the reason why he said all of those cause a) he is worried about me and doesn't want me to go down a dark road and b)even he says I am not ready for a relationship cause he knows I am not over my ex. The thing is my ex took everything away from me mentally. I need to find myself, see what makes me happy before I can be happy with other people, question is when. I did tell this new girl I want her around in my life and when I get better I would like to try things again, but I also dont' want her to put her life on hold either. She was ok with it, but really confused about why it has to happen. Ugh..I dunno but I need to focus on me first before I can focus on being with anyone else. Things suck tonight, I hate it, I hate how my ex put me thru 6 months of hell after the break up. I still wake up at times and go why did it happe, she was everything I looked for in a girl and thats who I wanted to be with. Guess I am dazed and confused here guys.

[bigacesteve]

Hi everyone,

 

Oh well everything is off with the ex and it was my decision. Just totally had enough of the bulls*** last night.

 

I went out last night with my football friends on a late Xmas do. My ex had been around my house the previous night and she told me that she might be out but would probably stay in. All my regular friends met up with us later and we were having a good night. I turn around and my ex is standing there, unaware I'm there and she was with a friend. They were both surrounded by blokes and my ex was flirting a lot. I walked over to her and I could tell she wasn't pleased to see me but she was pretending that she was. The lads all vanished as soon as I walked over. I talked to her and then I went back to my friends. Everywhere I went, she was there but instead of talking to me, she was more interested in my friends. She kept coming over to me to tell me that herself and her friend were going to dance. Every so often she'd come back and hover around me but not really say anything or she watch me from afar. I had women flirting with me but I ignored them all because my mind was on my ex; it totally wrecked my night because I felt like I was nothing to her. At the end of the night I was about to go and I saw my ex again and I thought I'm sick of this. The other night and the week before she had been telling me how she had feelings for me and how she wanted to work things out. I saw none of this last night and I confronted her with it. (Calmly) I told her that I am sick of treading on eggshells around her, I'm sick of the face she was pulling everytime I tried to talk to her and that it was about time she stopped lying to me and told me what was really going on between us, where did I stand because I felt like I was the lowest form of life to her that night. She mumbled that she didn't know and then she said that she didn't feel the same anymore and that was all I got out of her. So... she's told me that she has feelings for me and now she says she doesn't. I'm going to go with the latter because what I saw last night was a very immature girl who couldn't care less about my feelings or what happens to me.

 

Guess what as well? Vicki is texting me again. She says she's had a new mobile phone now that works properly... yea right. We'll see though. I told her I'd ring later tonight and she said ok. So let's see if she answers, I'll keep you posted.

 

Feel like s*** but I know it's for the best. I was becoming such a brilliant person when I kept away from my ex, I can and will do it again. I've seen the true ex and I don't want it anymore, it was ugly. I'm a different person now and I'm about to finish one life tomorrow as an IT Consultant and start a new life as a police officer on the 31st. I am SOOOOOOO excited!!!

 

Keep away from those ex's, they're poison.

[djones]

Hey Guys,

 

Nick14--- I think you are doing right thing man, you need some time alone to find your self again and build your self up back to before you met your ex. I would say though dont let it get to you what your ex said about you, she is just acting immature and stupid. I am glad that the new girl understands, just remain firends in the mean time and focus on you....If you need to rant you know where to find us man....we are all here to help you out...

 

BAS---Its funny how our exes come back into our lives when we are starting to get our s*** back together and start feeling like a human once again and they cause torment on us, for thier own selfish means.....they start to feel a sore point in thier lives and they feel that hey lets cause some s*** with our exes.....it pi$$es me off to have that happen to the gang. Its like they gouge us and now they try to take a piece more out of us again.....and we being good people are not immune to it, b/c we see the good in people. this kind of stuff starts to make some of us now feel jaded about new people we meet, its not far.....why should we suffer again for thier incosideration.....Your ex sounds like she does not know what the ***** she wants, she wants her cake and eat it too...she sees a great guy like you and does not know what the ***** she wants.....I noticed that with all the break ups here guys....we were gold to our exes and they *****ed it up by leaving us, they know in thier hearts that they lost something good and they are too *****ing stupid to figure out what they should do to fix it.....so what do they do is act like little *****ing kids and play this high school s***.....welll I am for one is too old for high school I passed that crap about 15 years ago and I am not going through that again....like HandH said life is too short.....

As for vicki, BAS I dont know what to think anymore, play it by ear and see what happens, new phone whatever....what they dont payphones in London?

keep us posted man.....you are doing great, this little set back is nothing and you did the big step by telling her off...good stuff!!

 

take care guys

[audrey]

Hey Everyone,

 

Urban Rubble - Just wanted to say your views on religion/discrimination etc were inspiring. I Pretty much agreed with everything you said and found myself going Yeah! at every point. Think I will retire to bed with a Bill Hicks book this evening now...

 

Well thankyou to those of you that replied to my little problem last week. Unfortunately I let you all down as I didn't turn up to see off my ex at his leaving party, I just couldn't go through with socialising with him, his new gf and OUR friends, too wierd. I think I'm better off staying away from all that. However, I am meeting him briefly monday everning as I am picking up the pet Lizard we shared. (As he's going travelling for a year he cant keep him) So I will see him on our own for a wee while before he leaves for good in the morning and don't worry, I intend to look so hot he won't even recognise me.

 

I couldn't log on to thank you all for the advice and best wishes before as I went on a city break to Barcelona with some friends which was amazing. I even got drunk and kissed a guy. Okay, maybe not the greatest achievement in life but as it was the first one since I broke up with my ex last April, it was a pretty big step and I wasn't sick and didn't die or anything so I'm wondering if maybe I am on the road to heartbreak recovery?!?!?!?!

 

as for the big question, I reckon 2005 will be a better year all round, for me anyway, as I don't think I could feel as bad as I did in 2004 and thanks to you guys I have an outlet for any recurring pain that creeps up now anyway. As for the rest of you, I won't presume to tell you how you will feel or how your life will change but I do wish you all lots of love and luck.

 

Adios Amigos

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Weird]

Urb,

 

yeah man I am with you on the stuff you posted as you can probaby tell. I wont even get started non the bush/conservative/republican stuff andhow they are supposed to be full of faith. That stuff makes me chuckle and shake my head.

 

I also find it amusing many against homosexuality act like it is a choice homosexuals make. Just seems pretty silly to think that. I guess mentally handicapped people choose to be handicapped.

 

Anyway, you and I sound like we have a similar view when it comes to the hypocritical religious nutbags out there.

The sad thing is faith was supposedly a big factor in the recent election and that makes me shake my head and am thankful I do not live in that country even though I still get affected by who is in office as does the rest of the world. Doh.

 

Oh and great comment about the reality date shows...I have bitched about them to many people and how silly they are and how they basically crap on marriage. I think I've bitched about them to Derek (head/heels) via AIm before:)

 

 

 

Nick,

 

well, good to hear you arent going to continue that relationship without your heart being in it. It was the advice I have given you for weeks and it is nice to hear others felt the same way I did. You need A LOT of healing bro before you get with someone else because withou your heart being in it you'd just end up feeling worse....I know you will be healed though.

 

 

 

Steve,

 

Well dude, too bad she turned out to act like a little teeny bopper but it is for the best. I had mixed feelings with her based on the stuff you told me. On one hand I hoped it woudl work out and she was for real but on the toher I had a feeling she was going to jerk youa round yet again. Damn her.

 

And to hell with vicki.

 

Seriously man, do the single thing for a while and just hang with your buddies and pimp off the police job. All these women aren't worth your time because you are simply better than them. If that gem comes along then great, you can go for it but I say you go about your life without worrying about that woman coming along.

 

Take care bro!

[Urban Rubble01]

Nick-

 

I agree with the others, it's probably good to be single right now. It's cool you were honest with the girl and all that. Is there any chance of her sticking around as a friend ? I know in my case, I'm not looking for a girlfriend at all, but it's really nice to have girls to hang around as friends.

 

But you're on the road to recovery. You know what's going on, now you just have to give it time.

 

Steve-

 

I know this might sound kind of odd, but I'm happy for you. No, not happy that the ex is being a kid and messing with you. I just think it's good that you are finally clear on the situation and you're done giving her chances. Now that you have made the decision to give up on it, you can get over it. The only thing I want more than getting my ex back is getting some closure (though I guess those two could be the same thing, but you know what I mean).

 

Anyway, good luck being a copper. Ease up on the skaterboarders and the potsmokers. And try not be too liberal with the pepper spray (do English cops use spray?) !

 

Audrey-

 

Glad you enjoyed my left wing rantings ! =) I've got plenty more where that came from.

 

Weird-

 

Yeah, we're in basic agreement. I'll shut up now, don't want to alienate people any further !

 

Who've you got for the Super Bowl ?

 

Anyway, tomorrow makes 3 weeks of NC for me ! The longest period of time I've gone without talking to her in 10 YEARS ! Well, techincally, we've talked through E-mail once, but that doesn't count. I'm going to try and not call until I have to let her know what time I'll be up for V-day, if I can do 3 more weeks that'll be amazing. Probably won't happen though.

 

Anyway, I'm dead tired. I just ran 2 miles and did some working out. I figure, even if the ex doesn't love me anymore, she'll have to come back just because of my sexy abs ! Haha, later people.