jordan2377 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 So basically I am a 19 year old guy, and have pretty much accepted that I am mostly likely going to be single as the years go by. I'm not going to post any photos of myself but I look pretty bad. I've gone through years of sarcastic comments, and even getting laughed at by girls two or three times for my looks. I am not looking for false self reassurance or pity comments - I seriously just want to know by experienced people if I trained really hard on my body and physique (Got big arms, a big chest Etc) would this increase my chances in any way whatsoever? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Delilah1623 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 It has much more to do with your personality and how you treat people then your actual face. If you are unattractive by conventional standards it can be harder to meet people, but if they are judging you only by how you look to the point of laughing at you they are not worth your time anyways. The right person will love you, all of you, and think you are the most beautiful thing in the world. But yes. Women do like hot bodies too 2 Link to post Share on other sites
StanMusial Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Is there an echo in here? Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think you are a bit young to have given up so soon. There is a lid for every pit out there. Young people can be very cruel. I was tormented a lot as a child but most people would consider me attractive as an adult. I didn't do anything except get contacts. I do think you should work on your body but I think it will give you more self confidence. That's most likely what's missing rather than anything else about your overall looks. Remember a genuine smile is your best asset. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BOREDouttaMymind Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ahhh my friend. youre going about this all wrong. you want a great body for people to accept you, but, your body isn't 'you'. youre you! go to the gym, work out, get huge muscles. sure girls will find you attractive, but the wrong girls. you want people to like you for you. not for muscles which are going to fade away as time goes by. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PegNosePete Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think your time would be much better spent working on your confidence and self-esteem. Of course confidence and self-esteem can come through having a well build and muscled body so maybe you are on the right track. But a good body is not going to get you there on its own. You need to change your mindset and outlook as well. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author jordan2377 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think you are a bit young to have given up so soon. There is a lid for every pit out there. Young people can be very cruel. I was tormented a lot as a child but most people would consider me attractive as an adult. I didn't do anything except get contacts. I do think you should work on your body but I think it will give you more self confidence. That's most likely what's missing rather than anything else about your overall looks. Remember a genuine smile is your best asset. Yeah I am young but I just thought that it would be best to be realistic about the gravity of the situation rather than being deluded about everything. I mean most girls don't even want to be friends with me - I am confident a lot of the time but also am aware of how I come across as awkward as well. Haha, take my word for it and when I say I look bad. There a lot of guys out there who don't look bad at all and have low self esteem, but I'm not one of them. I just want to know from experience if anyone who has been considered to look 'bad' has had seen any changes since building up. Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 If you think you look bad, other than going to the gym what are you doing to change how you look? Can you get a hair cut? Can you get dermabrasion or some other proceedure if you think you have acne scars? Can you get a nose job or have your ears pinned if they are problems? Certain things can be changed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
felicity1 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 In time you will realize that it's not your looks that are of all importance. Just make sure you eat healthy, get enough exercise, work out if you like but I would suggest doing it for your health, not your looks. Genuine attractiveness comes from the inside, not the outside. The more you focus on your looks the more hollow your inside will become. Treat yourself well, love yourself for who you are and other people will do the same to you. If I had to make a choice over a good-looking but dull man and a not so good-looking loving friendly man, I would definitely choose the latter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DatingInYour40s Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Good teeth and good skin can go a long way and imo, more than a hot bod. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Can a good body make up for a bad face? If you are a man, absolutely! Some women love rugged looks on a man especially if its coupled with a hot bod. Link to post Share on other sites
Author jordan2377 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 If you think you look bad, other than going to the gym what are you doing to change how you look? Can you get a hair cut? Can you get dermabrasion or some other proceedure if you think you have acne scars? Can you get a nose job or have your ears pinned if they are problems? Certain things can be changed. Plastic surgery is a waste of time in my opinion. I did a lot of research on it a couple of years ago and it's nowhere near the potential it could reach in probably 50 or 60 years time - There have been very few people I have seen who have had a huge improvement before and after surgery. Most of the time you can't even tell the difference. Facially I don't think much can be done for me at the moment. Besides that I'm not the richest guy in town hahaha. Link to post Share on other sites
OptimistPrime Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yeah I am young but I just thought that it would be best to be realistic about the gravity of the situation rather than being deluded about everything. I mean most girls don't even want to be friends with me - I am confident a lot of the time but also am aware of how I come across as awkward as well. Haha, take my word for it and when I say I look bad. There a lot of guys out there who don't look bad at all and have low self esteem, but I'm not one of them. I just want to know from experience if anyone who has been considered to look 'bad' has had seen any changes since building up. Well, I didn't consider myself handsome when I first met my ex over 20 years ago. She was definitely a "hottie" (still is). I often times asked her what she saw in me to which she would say something about my hot body (I worked out but never had huge muscles) and my blue eyes . . . the eyes always came after the body! In reality it was my confidence, humor and ability to listen to her for hours on end that she fell for . . . the body and eyes just got my foot in the door! Link to post Share on other sites
InnocentMan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Become rich, funny, or get a nice ride. All three of these things will get you much more women, than a few muscles ever will. Sure, some women are attracted by the strong macho look, but it won't really stop you being less ugly. You'll just be an ugly guy with muscles. If all else fails, just lower your standards. There's plenty of ugly gals out there. Link to post Share on other sites
Koky Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Like someone said, having a good body will definitely help You draw in the women. But that also will be useless if you don't have a great personality. So yes, I say work on your body but don't forgwt your body will just draw them in. Not hold them there. Good luck my friend and hit the gym I say. Link to post Share on other sites
Zeroes Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 OP, I might be biased because I like buff men, but by all means go for it. I can't comment on your face since I haven't seen it so I'm just going to take your word for it, but whatever you look like facially it will increase your overall attractiveness and also your confidence as well as your health. Just please don't become one of those ex loser type bitter guys who do it because they want to get revenge on the female gender, bitter is never attractive and you can smell that attitude from a mile off with some buff guys, that they used to be sort that got rejected, you get a similar attitude in women that used to be really overweight. Become rich, funny, or get a nice ride. All three of these things will get you much more women, than a few muscles ever will. Sure, some women are attracted by the strong macho look, but it won't really stop you being less ugly. You'll just be an ugly guy with muscles. If all else fails, just lower your standards. There's plenty of ugly gals out there. It gets really boring seeing the "get rich" line trotted out by men, as if it's A) something that's easy to do or even achievable for most men and B) the panacea of all mens dating woes. Newsflash: It's not. A rich guy that lacks all the other qualities of a good partner such as personality, general attractiveness, etc. Is just a target for gold diggers who will take what they want and head for the doors, and that just leaves them even more bitter and jaded. And lastly, the rest of that is terrible, simplistic advice as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Having a good body is always going to help in many ways. Even more so as you get older. Most people just go to **** with age. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
InnocentMan Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Americans in not understanding irony shocker. Link to post Share on other sites
InnocentMan Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You not understating the love and dating advice forum, and not irony forum, concept. I gave him advice, in the form of irony. Just because some people didn't understand it, doesn't make it any less valid. Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 There have been very few people I have seen who have had a huge improvement before and after surgery. Most of the time you can't even tell the difference. Good plastic surgery makes you look like a better version of yourself. It sounds like you want to look totally different, which is unrealistic and probably would look bizarre. Of course, Bruce Jenner may be a different story since he wants to look like a woman. Link to post Share on other sites
InnocentMan Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Well, is it literal or not? The OP thinks he's ugly. He thinks it's this that prevents him getting women. He ponders if adding some muscle mass will solve his problem. I pointed out that him becoming rich, funny, or having a nice ride would be much more likely to improve his chances. The point being, there are many rich, funny, and men with nice rides who also have trouble getting a girl. I then suggested he try some less attractive women, and see if that improves his hit rate. So no, it wasn't literal, it was helpful irony. Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I gave him advice, in the form of irony. Just because some people didn't understand it, doesn't make it any less valid. Some people equals "Americans". Way to be a eurofag bro Link to post Share on other sites
Elias33 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Yes, but not likely for the reasons you think. If you take care of yourself, and you hit the gym, it's more about the person you become through the struggle. Going to the gym is no guarantee, but it sure can't do any harm. You hopefully will built self confidence, and that my friend, is what does the trick. Link to post Share on other sites
FrankieFrank Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) The OP thinks he's ugly. He thinks it's this that prevents him getting women. He ponders if adding some muscle mass will solve his problem. I pointed out that him becoming rich, funny, or having a nice ride would be much more likely to improve his chances. The point being, there are many rich, funny, and men with nice rides who also have trouble getting a girl. I then suggested he try some less attractive women, and see if that improves his hit rate. So no, it wasn't literal, it was helpful irony. Here we have a life lesson: spotting an irony over internet is no easy task. Therefore use it sparingly or make it very obvious. I also disagree with advice "go for ugly women and work your way up". IME worse looking ones are the ones I strike out with the worst. They can pretty much sense I don't think they're attractive and they become bitchy and rude on the spot. Edited December 15, 2013 by FrankieFrank Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Anyone can "work out", but once you realize the level of effort it takes to truly alter your physique in a noticeable way, you'll have to do it for you, because you enjoy it, not for some woman. It is quite literally a lifestyle, and frankly no woman is worth those kinds of changes in your life. Do it for you. Link to post Share on other sites
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