Mr Spock Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Sigh. Don't insinuate that I can't follow the rubbish you post Moose, or I'd have to insinuate you're a boorish prig who hides behind his version of the bible. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by Mr Spock Sigh. Don't insinuate that I can't follow the rubbish you post Moose, or I'd have to insinuate you're a boorish prig who hides behind his version of the bible. Thanks for putting me back in my place, I nearly forgot where I belonged for a sec......... Link to post Share on other sites
dyermaker Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yeesh you two, stop hijacking Tiki's thread. Link to post Share on other sites
BlockHead Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 tiki It seems like I remember something about it though. Like you're supposed to be a little limited to what you should do with regards to sex with your spouse?I don’t think the people in that time period were burdened with a long lifespan, good health, and lots of leisure time unless they were extremely wealthy. I don’t think there was a great deal of experimentation. I can think of two stumbling blocks. 1. Rampant disease. 2. Poor hygiene. I’m sure they learned something through trial and error. I’m sure a bad case of dysentery would ruin the moment. I wonder what kind of parasites were floating around in those public baths. Monday Logic behind no sex before marriage: No babies with only one parent No people who aren't ready for sex having sex It will be done in love, instead of lustI don’t think welfare was an option. moimeme Actually, Jesus said you shouldn't get married at all. I wouldn't worry so much about sex and hurry up and divorce if I were you.Why do you bother trying? Here is the rebuttal. Luke 20:27-40 Interpretation Jesus' reply undercuts the basic premise before stating emphatic support for resurrection: "Those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, and they can no longer die, for they are like the angels. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection." After the resurrection relationships change. "Putting on immortality" means there is no more need to create new mortals (1 Cor 15:50-54). With God as Father, families are no longer necessary. There is no more death, nor is there any need to worry about continuing one's family line. This makes the afterlife a new paradigm of existence to which the problem the Sadducees have posed is irrelevant. People do not marry in the afterlife, and the issue of whose spouse the woman is becomes vacuous.I can’t say I’m surprised. I can see it is next to one of your favorite lines. Luke 20:25 Tim 2:9-15 9I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15But women[a] will be saved through childbearing–if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.What can I say? Reputable theologians will argue that those lines are probably later additions because Paul said nothing like it in his other letters. Those lines don’t even fit. I think this is the fifth time you tried to pedal this nonsense. If you want more, then start your own thread. Link to post Share on other sites
RowanRavyn Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Tiki, I have tried to avoid this thread. LOL. Somehow I just knew it would become a huge debate, and show of attitude. Have you read The Song of Solomon? Its a beautiful story, and while it warns of "awakening love before its time", it also has beautiful bits in it like this: Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest is my lover among the young men. I delight to sit in his shade and his fruit is sweet to my taste. Song of Solomon 2:3 Then there is this one: ....blow on my garden, that its fragrance may spread abroad. Let my lover come into his garden and taste its choice fruits. Song of Solomon 4:16 YUM! Link to post Share on other sites
blind_otter Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by BlockHead I’m sure a bad case of dysentery would ruin the moment. I wonder what kind of parasites were floating around in those public baths. I just read an article about this - research being done at my University...heheheh....gross. Apparently there's proof that homo erectus and homo spaiens interacted, possibly even mated, because there are two strains of lice that are nearly identical but diverged genetically 1.2 million years ago when early ancestors of our species diverged from archaic humans. People today have 2 distinct types of lice - one evolved on erectus, one on sapiens. At least nowadays you don't have to worry much about catching lice from your partner. Although one girl at massage school caught lice from her girlfriend. Yick. Link to post Share on other sites
Author tiki Posted January 4, 2005 Author Share Posted January 4, 2005 RR: Originally posted by tiki I've attended one 7 week class on the Song of Solomon. It's twelve 30 minute videos on love, attraction, sexuality, marriage...etc., etc. And it was awesome. My husband and I have signed up for the class again mid-January. I love the SOS. I think it's an awesome book! stop hijacking Tiki's thread It's okay, really. You guys are entertaining me while teaching me. Link to post Share on other sites
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