LABiker86 Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 As the title says, I'm a biker, love was never my thing, if you see this experience as somewhat amateurish then please excuse me, because my experience with girls is %0, I'm always a sucker when it comes to relationship. Despite it's been almost 6 months, I'm still curious. I'm now taking courses at art school for digital painting. There's a girl in my class that I actually like, but never had any history other than when she got mad at me for a reason I cannot tell other than it's was totally my fault, she went extremely furious at that incident. Apologized twice, she didn't accept it, we never talked since then. 2 sessions later (3 months to be exact) the girl was caught staring at me not once, not twice, THREE times, and always looks away when notice her looking at me! I, on my side, trying not to look at her because I still feel guilty about what happened, after all you know what they say "The man doesn't forgive, but forget, but the women forgive, but NEVER forget" also been avoiding eye contact in order not to develop likeness. Unfortunately, I did....unintentionally The Girl? She's outgoing, socialist, but not sure whether that's her or a shy person in disguise, it's hard to tell. She's treating anyone pleasantly except me, she's rather cold with me (even before the incident). Now don't get me wrong, I doesn't bug me, not anymore, but rather curious. The girl is long gone forever and transferred to another school. but I'd like to hear from you so I could learn from my mistakes.
maestrok Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 What are you curious about? Whether she has forgiven you? Why she's mad? or if she likes you?
Author LABiker86 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Posted December 14, 2013 Yup! It's whether she likes me. also, I'd like to add that when apologized for the second time, I remembered she said that "She can't forgive me for now" not "Apology NOT accepted" so I don't know.
maestrok Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Yup! It's whether she likes me. also, I'd like to add that when apologized for the second time, I remembered she said that "She can't forgive me for now" not "Apology NOT accepted" so I don't know. IMHO, chance of her liking you is close to 0%. If she likes you she wouldn't want to cut you out and stop talking to you at all. I feel like she's probably staring you because she might be still angry and it's more like how-dare-you stare... but that depends on the nature of your mistake. I am not sure where you even got that idea of her liking you though.. if that's just from staring, I think you are making another mistake, sorry.
Author LABiker86 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Posted December 14, 2013 IMHO, chance of her liking you is close to 0%. If she likes you she wouldn't want to cut you out and stop talking to you at all. I feel like she's probably staring you because she might be still angry and it's more like how-dare-you stare... but that depends on the nature of your mistake. I am not sure where you even got that idea of her liking you though.. if that's just from staring, I think you are making another mistake, sorry. One thing I know for sure that she's not the type that likes to start a conversation with males, that's one thing I knew about her during last 2 sessions in school. beside she tried to have a conversation with me multiple times after we fought. aww, it's okay! I never got my hopes up in the first place I was just curious about it
Raven1018 Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 If she freaked out on you like that and never spoke to you again, I wouldnt give her "stares" much weight. They might be glares. She might still be angry! But why do you talk about her in the present tense and then say she is transferred and forever gone?? How do you even know?
Coak Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 I wouldn't say that it's a 0% chance that she likes you like others said. You have to understand; men get caught when they look at women because we're slow and we just don't care, most of them time we want them to see us, but then we're terrible at hiding it.. Women on the other hand, are trained at this and if they want you to see them looking at you, they'll make sure they get caught. She wanted you to know she was looking; this is why she did it more than once. She wanted to make sure, you got her signal. Because you had an argument and you said she refused to accept the apology, I would say this is her way of saying "I do accept" and that is most likely wants you to begin speaking to her. You can do this without a doubt, it's just something people do, it's been months you stated since you last spoke. Start off lightly and ask her how her holidays have been going or what plans she's got going on - you'll be able to tell in her tone, the way she speaks to you, if she looks at you or looks away, or how she looks at you --if she's interested or if she's just answering your questions. I can tell you this much, if she answers your questions and then asks you how your holidays are and asks how you have been -- then that's a really good thing, that's really progressive. If she doesn't care, she either won't talk, won't make eye contact or simply will respond and walk away. If she cares and she wants to continue to communicate, she'll look you in the eyes and ask you questions too -- she'll finish the initiation of the conversation. If you get super-lucky, she might even tell you that she is sorry of how she reacted during your run in months prior. I definitely would not give up on something like that, color us male's curious, but if I caught someone I used to speak to looking at me three times, that tells me enough... You really should go speak to her and just get some verification. Don't listen to us, if you want closure, step in and initiate some conversation. I wish you luck!
Coak Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Let me add something here fast; women respect men for breaking out of their shell. Most women will tell you they don't care, that's just them hiding and not giving all their 'secrets' to us. Even if she doesn't respond to you well and doesn't initiate on your conversation, she will acknowledge that what you did took balls and she will respect you for it. That alone, even if right now she doesn't want to break the ice with you, leaves the conversation on HER end of the table, which means she knows you're open to her, now it's her turn to open up to you; which in the future might lead to her talking to you or opening up and redeveloping a friendship within your class. That's the foot in the door. The whole purpose of this exercise (speaking to her) is to exercise her emotions. A woman that sees a man talking to her after an argument, even after he knows he might get shut down right then and there, a woman knows this takes a real man. A real man can shrug off rejection and move forward; that's what you're doing, you're showing her regardless that you are interested to know her. Trust me, it will make her think. Thinking is good. She will walk away, either way with more respect towards you. Being the bigger person is difficult, but it's respectable. We all know this.
Raven1018 Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 As a woman, I have to say I disagree. Which is totally cool everyone has their opinions. I would say that you are quite observant in noting that women are better trained in the subtleties of flirting and if you caught her staring she probably wanted you too. However, if she is STARING at you and the last time you guys spoke she was angry I would say the staring might show she is still angry. If I felt I was mean to a guy or was ready to take his apology for doing something stupid I might smile at him or laugh at some of his jokes in class. But you said she was treating everyone pleasantly except you. This is a deliberate hostile action not to be taken lightly. Im sure after your encounter it was not a coincidence she was not treating you in a pleasant way. Also, just to throw my personal experience in the mix...sometimes guys in class who try to be class clowns annoy me and if they do something really stupid or just out of line I just find myself always staring at them kind of lost in wondering how someone can be so oblivious and just waiting for them to do something else stupid. IDK I space out and just stare at people sometimes when I am wondering things
Author LABiker86 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Posted December 14, 2013 If she freaked out on you like that and never spoke to you again, I wouldnt give her "stares" much weight. They might be glares. She might still be angry! But why do you talk about her in the present tense and then say she is transferred and forever gone?? How do you even know? Sorry, I always had issues with grammar. I always tend to speak in the present tense, it's just me.
Dallers Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) There is far too much over-thinking in this thread if you ask me. If a girl looked at me 3 times she wouldn't have a chance to get to the 4th because I would be on her doorstep arranging a coffee and confirming that my name was Chris and she was about to take my number. What are you waiting for OP? By the time this thread ends you will be friend zoned. Edited December 14, 2013 by Dallers
Author LABiker86 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) @Raven1018: Let me clarify some point. Sorry I wasn't clear enough about it but I personally doubt it was a glare stare, because there were no sign of her glaring, her eye brow and face muscles was completely normal and relaxed! In fact I would say it's the stare of a girl who's thinking and wondering, no smile at all though. @Coak: Will take your words into consideration as they hold the truth in it, thanks man. @Dallers: I'm not waiting for anything, I want to learn my mistake through this thread so I don't make the same mistake when meeting someone I like! The girl is long gone now. Edited December 14, 2013 by LABiker86
Dallers Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Let me clarify some points. Sorry I wasn't clear enough about it but I personally doubt it was a glare stare, because there were no sign of her glaring, her eye brow and face muscles was completely normal and relaxed! In fact I would say it's the stare of a girl who's thinking and wondering, no smile at all though. @Coak: Will take your words into consideration as they hold the truth in it, thanks man. @Dallers: I'm not waiting for anything, I want to learn my mistake through this thread so I don't make the same mistake when meeting someone I like! The girl is long gone now. There normally isn't a mistake and what someone else tells you is not necessarily right because it is their opinion not yours and not the girl you are trying to get with. Forget her, move onto the next one and try again if you waste time dwelling on the chances you do not get you miss out on the ones you could.
TylerDurdenn Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Sorry but you are looking way too far into this, the fact you even counted how many times she 'stared' at you should tell you something.
carhill Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Yup! It's whether she likes me. also, I'd like to add that when apologized for the second time, I remembered she said that "She can't forgive me for now" not "Apology NOT accepted" so I don't know. You're connected to an emotional memory, so the gaze lingers/lingered while the memory is/was accessed. I get this a fair amount, generally, when I've been able to inquire why, because I remind the lady of someone else. In your case, there was evidently a negative social encounter. That happens. Life goes on.
Author LABiker86 Posted December 17, 2013 Author Posted December 17, 2013 You know what, ya'll got a valid point. I should carry on
jonny walker Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 no she doesnt like u.if she does then i would bet u that for once she might have approched u..
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