Starting to Dislike/Mistrust All Women.... ?

[mtnbiker3000]

Awesome!

 

Will try to figure out where to meet 30ish types for this next round. Though that step sister is 32, there is probably a better chance of these older ones being more sure of what they want, anyway.

 

I dunno. My ex is 32 and she did the same shyte. Shes got her own issues though.

[theothersully]

I dunno. My ex is 32 and she did the same shyte. Shes got her own issues though.

 

Damn... mine ex was a similar age, but i figured the diagnosed mental illness was most of it.

 

It's rough out there is right.

[M30USA]

The best advice I can give you isn't to say that your beliefs aren't true. They most likely are. Most or all women, deep down, only see men as a resource to be tapped (ie, finances), as a sperm donor, and a workhorse to complete their tasks. I don't mean this negatively. I just think the only happy men are the ones who just ACCEPT this as true and are still okay with it. I mean, really, should anyone expect a completely altruistic woman (or man) who can be 100% confided in and trusted even to the point of death? It's unrealistic. Nobody is like that. So part of making it last this is just accepting reality and then base your decisions accordingly. Is this something you can handle? If yes, get married. If not, remain single.

[theothersully]

The best advice I can give you isn't to say that your beliefs aren't true. They most likely are. Most or all women, deep down, only see men as a resource to be tapped (ie, finances), as a sperm donor, and a workhorse to complete their tasks. I don't mean this negatively. I just think the only happy men are the ones who just ACCEPT this as true and are still okay with it. I mean, really, should anyone expect a completely altruistic woman (or man) who can be 100% confided in and trusted even to the point of death? It's unrealistic. Nobody is like that. So part of making it last this is just accepting reality and then base your decisions accordingly. Is this something you can handle? If yes, get married. If not, remain single.

 

Hmmm... good post.

 

Not getting re married any time soon.

[lollipopspot]

Also consider the age range of the women you are dating. Females who are 18-24 are not going to be emotionally mature enough to deal with a grown man who has already came through a marriage and many relationships. You are asking a semi-pro baseball player to throw herself into the big leagues and play just as well as someone who has been there for ten years.

 

I agree, and OP, I actually think if possible you might try going UP in age, past your own. It seems to me that you are hoping for a kind of emotional stability and maturity that someone younger may be less likely to be able to offer. I understand you have the extra challenge of a fairly nomadic life and it can be hard for some people who are very stable (and commitment-oriented) in their lives to be able to join you in that, but it's possible.

 

The best advice I can give you isn't to say that your beliefs aren't true. They most likely are. Most or all women, deep down, only see men as a resource to be tapped (ie, finances), as a sperm donor, and a workhorse to complete their tasks.

 

You think that women are a different species than men or something? Most or ALL women use men as resources?

 

Is it possible that you have chosen your social group by the way you see the world (do you think of others as resources to be used?), and that's what you see, and that's what you're describing.

 

Me however, I volunteer a lot of time to help those less fortunate, human and animal. I don't look at the world and its inhabitants as resources to be exploited - in fact that's exactly what I fight against. I would stay far away from someone who saw and used the world this way (except on a message board, where I'll engage).

[dreamingoftigers]

The best advice I can give you isn't to say that your beliefs aren't true. They most likely are. Most or all women, deep down, only see men as a resource to be tapped (ie, finances), as a sperm donor, and a workhorse to complete their tasks. I don't mean this negatively. I just think the only happy men are the ones who just ACCEPT this as true and are still okay with it. I mean, really, should anyone expect a completely altruistic woman (or man) who can be 100% confided in and trusted even to the point of death? It's unrealistic. Nobody is like that. So part of making it last this is just accepting reality and then base your decisions accordingly. Is this something you can handle? If yes, get married. If not, remain single.

 

WTF M30USA, have you joined the Dark Side or what?

 

Your posts just keep getting more mysoginistic.

I married a bum. A literal bum. And I was told I couldn't have kids.

He wasn't my financial stability, sperm donor or workhorse.

I LOVED his company. And damn the sonofabitch I still do.

 

Sounds like maybe you don't like the company of women so you end up with women whose company you don't like.

[dreamingoftigers]

I agree, and OP, I actually think if possible you might try going UP in age, past your own. It seems to me that you are hoping for a kind of emotional stability and maturity that someone younger may be less likely to be able to offer. I understand you have the extra challenge of a fairly nomadic life and it can be hard for some people who are very stable (and commitment-oriented) in their lives to be able to join you in that, but it's possible.

 

 

 

You think that women are a different species than men or something? Most or ALL women use men as resources?

 

Is it possible that you have chosen your social group by the way you see the world (do you think of others as resources to be used?), and that's what you see, and that's what you're describing.

 

Me however, I volunteer a lot of time to help those less fortunate, human and animal. I don't look at the world and its inhabitants as resources to be exploited - in fact that's exactly what I fight against. I would stay far away from someone who saw and used the world this way (except on a message board, where I'll engage).

 

OP has another thread running about how to game a 23 year old he is doing push-pull with.

 

I think OP may want the best of every world and not have to offer in too much to any of it. Seems to expect a fair amount from partners/potential partners with not much talk of what he had to return to them.

[M30USA]

WTF M30USA, have you joined the Dark Side or what

 

What? It's not like I'm unbalanced. All men want is to get sex, get fed good food, and have a child to carry on their name. It's nice to have companionship and a "soul mate", but those things are secondary and everybody knows it. There.

[dreamingoftigers]

What? It's not like I'm unbalanced. All men want is to get sex, get fed good food, and have a child to carry on their name. It's nice to have companionship and a "soul mate", but those things are secondary and everybody knows it. There.

 

My husband really wanted a daughter......

He's even legally changed his name..... He married me knowing I couldn't have kids

 

Maybe your fluency on "all men" is about as certain as the female one.

[M30USA]

theothersulley,

 

 

I'd recommend reading "Men On Strike" by Helen Smith, PhD. You can watch an interview of her by clicking this link:

 

 

Dr Helen Smith Explains Why Men Need To Boycott Marriage Until Laws Change! White Chick Gets It! - YouTube

[William]

As it appears that all three moderators have looked at this thread and apparently sanctioned some members for their conduct in it, I wanted to advise members the thread has been edited and to remind members that discussion in a civil and respectful manner is encouraged. Help the thread starter work through their issue of starting to dislike/mistrust women. Thank you!

[spiderowl]

I don't think women are any worse than guys, as a rule. I do find, however, that guys think it's all about having things in common and doing the right things, whereas it's about physical and emotional attraction.

 

Having said that, I don't think anything excuses disloyal or deceptive behaviour. If someone is unhappy with their partner, they should be honest about it and, above all, not get involved with them if they have big doubts.

[ChessPieceFace]

I don't want to go in this direction. I'm starting to dislike and mistrust all women.

 

Ah yes. The direction of wising up and realizing how badly you're being screwed by society by being male. I'm afraid there's no going back.

 

I feel like most women are bad people. At least when it comes to relationships. Very selfish,and do not take other people's feelings into consideration. mostly, they are looking for a short term high and then moving on. this is not just my experience, but what I see with all of the women friends that I have and I have a lot. they generally treat their partners very badly. They have no regard for other people's feelings. Only their own.

 

This is accurate. The cause is twofold (at least) - womens' inherent selfish nature, and a society that has raised a generation of women to embrace their selfish nature and see it as normal, even supporting that selfish nature through things like welfare, court-ordered child-support, etc.

 

Now, I am NOT saying that men are any better. Maybe they are worse. Maybe all humans are bad towards each other now.

 

Nope. Women are demonstrably worse. Far, far worse. They've been given all the means to be, and had their bad behavior encouraged for a generation.

 

Check out "girlwriteswhat" on youtube. Your mind will be blown.

 

Also, look up "MGTOW."

Edited January 20, 2014 by ChessPieceFace

[SouthpawSaviour]

Up until now, I have felt the exact same way. EVERY single experience I had involved some girl falling super hard, super fast and expecting total commitment and affection from me, only to just turn around and leave once they've gotten what they wanted. Some girls literally just used me to get sex. I'm serious. Women do this too.

 

What's worse, is that women would use me to fulfill sexual, and emotional needs as well. I have had several flings where it seemed like the women were so lonely for so long, that they sought someone out to have a shoulder to cry on, someone to tell them they're beautiful, and give them sex after having months of sexual frustration.

 

Now I'm not saying men are any better, and there are a lot of bad apples out there among that gender, but it seems like our society is stuck in some sort of mindset in which women garner sympathy and have their horrible behavior forgiven or somehow justified. But when men engage in bad behavior, they are shunned, shamed and seen as monsters. It may be a generation thing, it might also be that people are just plain stupid, but I think that it's possible that many of these guys that cheat or hurt women, were probably hurt by women themselves prior to doing so. So they figure hey, if women are always going to be S*tty to me, I might as well just pay it forward and be S*tty to them.

 

It's a sick world. Thankfully, my current girlfriend is more loving and mature than any of my ex'es, despite being several years younger than them.

 

Have faith man, your experience is awful, but so was mine, and now I met someone I might one day propose to. So if I can do it, so can you.

Edited January 23, 2014 by SouthpawSaviour

[dichotomy]

I think in the last 20 years women have been given more and more power and freedom to act as badly as men have. That does not mean they should but many do or seize the opportunity to behave as they wish and selfishly - as mentioned especially the younger ones. Also our media often reinforces the superficial and shallow and selfish behavior of women and men - all those darn reality shows.

 

Meanwhile men have been getting the message for just as along to be better husbands, fathers, partners etc...And many have listened and are working on those traits.

 

Its a strange time in many ways.

[rosedl]

It isn't men or women, it is people.

 

I wouldn't judge all women by your very limited experience (even if you have been with a 100 women, that is VERY limited and myopic experience, there are 3.5 billion of us in the world).

 

I have had pretty bad experiences with men. Enough to make most people say 'I wouldn't be surprised if you never date again'!

 

But, I realized I was attracted to the wrong types of men because of my own issues and seeking out emotionally unavailable, invalidating men felt familiar. It was my experience growing up. We just keep repeating these experiences until we heal that part of ourselves (or at the very least see the pattern and learn to notice it when it starts to repeat).

 

I was hit as I kid. My dad didn't do it often, but when he did, he did it big. I was told I was to blame for him doing that.....I was also told I was a financial burden and shut out when I displayed emotions. Surprise, surprise...guess what type of men I gravitated towards....Men who had no tolerance for my emotions and blamed me for their behavior.

 

I think when we focus on healing that part of ourselves instead of stereotyping the entire opposite gender as being one way or the other, we not only alleviate our own suffering but open up possibility for reciprocal love. And, we stop playing the victims in our lives and become empowered.