Iguanna Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It's one of the bad results of feminism, in my opinion. Women have become totally free after centuries of being dominated by men and they don't know what to do with this freedom. Some women are smart enough to use this freedom in a good and constructive way, they have careers, they study, they offer things to humanity. Other women want to take advantage of this freedom exceedingly so they "overreact". I can't really believe that there were that many women in the past centuries who wanted to have sex with both men and women and they couldn't. It's just something they want to do, just like travel, weird and dangerous sports, etc. Women want to fill their lives with everything they can do. Traditional women are very rare to be found nowadays and this may most of the times be good for men (they get free sex) but if we think about this in the long term, this will be a problem. Women are not willing to give up their freedom in order to raise kids and men will have a problem finding women who want to have families and keep them in some years, I think. The irony is that most of these women who want to "do everything" in their lives end up being miserable; the more expectations you have, the more pain it's caused when you can't fulfill them all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mrlonelyone Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I see what the problems cause is. If you're a bi male it's "just be gay". If you're a bi female you hear "oh that's hot". There are lots of women who will claim to be bi in order to gain a social edge. Like Gaius said, it's part of the liberal hipster pop culture (Along with exotic backpacking, veganism, and flings in third world countries). They don't really mean it. Kind of a situation where a woman is a lesbian while in college then suddenly their straight after graduation. "bisexuals" like that exist for sure. Kaylan I get what you are saying. However as a person who ID's as queer and who is also African American descended ... I can say I get the same feeling hearing someone recite all the things they did for African Americans...who then says something questionable about African Americans. The exact, same, feeling. Now that feeling does not mean you are homophobic or even biphobic. It's just a feeling ... like bracing for impact when it looks like a car crash is about to happen. You have a preference. All I'm trying to say is most of these things you think about bisexuals are myths. If the woman likes Kaylan and only Kaylan why does it matter if she ever did like a... Katelyn? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 ^I get what youre saying, but its hard to shake what Ive learned from my (and my friends) experiences with these women. Plus as I said, I just get a feeling of being turned off somewhat when I find out a girl isnt straight. Sometimes a girl can get me to soften up a bit about it...but if shes one of those chicks who holds the double standard that she wouldnt date bi men herself...I def dont give her a chance. And the funny part is a lot of bi women are hypocrites about this. I even know someone who claims to be straight despite having done a little bit of stuff with women in the past. Its like many women wanna hold onto the straight label, yet be open to hooking up with chicks, and then still hold the double standard that a guy is less of a man (or dating prospect) if he behaves similarly. And then when they say something like "I dunno, things are just the way they are"....mega turn off. Ive dealt with too many bi chicks who think like this, so the whole thing just irks me. PS - And to answer that last part...I just wanna know that my gal craves solely what my body can give her. I don't wanna be thinking about her craving women...even if she never acts on it. Its just off putting. Plus as I said, experience has taught me to be cautious with these girls. Yeah its a bit lame...but too many of these girls act out in such a way to garner this caution label. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
soccerrprp Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Well, I only meet straight-only women, so not certain how you're meeting your dates. There are plenty of straight women. If there is an increase in bi- or homosexual women, I wonder if that's b/c there is such a shortage of good men.... My gf made a comment a while back that is related. She said that if our relationship did not work out that she was either going to forget about dating/finding a man OR find a woman to satisfy her needs. Lol! I told her forget that! Link to post Share on other sites
Editbee Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 If there is an increase in bi- or homosexual women, I wonder if that's b/c there is such a shortage of good men....That's the reason I've been single for a very long while. I'd rather be alone if there aren't enough good men than try it with another woman. I can't help that. Even with the jerks that seem to be increasing nowadays, I still like men and missed what it feels like a man getting inside me in a relationship. That's something a woman would never give me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Well, I only meet straight-only women, so not certain how you're meeting your dates. There are plenty of straight women. If there is an increase in bi- or homosexual women, I wonder if that's b/c there is such a shortage of good men.... My gf made a comment a while back that is related. She said that if our relationship did not work out that she was either going to forget about dating/finding a man OR find a woman to satisfy her needs. Lol! I told her forget that! How old are you? It seems to be more common amoung teens and 20-somethings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thinkingofhim Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Boy, this thread is bordering on bisexual hatred. I get the point, but take it down a few notches. I agree, I dont take any issue with someone having a preference for dating 100% straight women but I don't see where all of this intense dislike is coming from. This is the reason Im very uncomfortable expressing or revealing my sexuality. If you think all bisexual women are pretending because its stylish, okay, maybe they are, but who cares??? I don't see people going on angry rants about women with hair extensions or padded bras because they're just pretending for male attention. Sheesh I'm pretty sure everyone knows its unacceptable and not very nice to make assumptions about the sex lives of gay people yet it's ok to assume bisexual people are all cheaters that have nothing but 3somes. Ive never had a 3some in my life nor any desire to. Really wish this stereotype would die out. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think it comes from increased acceptance and freedom to explore, and I think it's great. I think it'd be great if men had the same acceptance and freedom to explore. People fall in all sorts of places on the scale from completely heterosexual to completely homosexual. Always have and always will. What changes is the societal acceptance. If never understood the assumption that bisexual people would be more likely to cheat. I see bisexuality as an ability to be into a person of either male or female gender, not a need for both. Link to post Share on other sites
clia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How old are you? It seems to be more common amoung teens and 20-somethings. I think for a lot of these younger girls it is either a phase or an effort to seem sexy and cool in front of the boys. But kissing your friend at the bar when you are drunk or merely claiming to be bisexual is one thing; if push came to shove, I doubt that many of these girls would actually have a real, sexual relationship with another girl. Link to post Share on other sites
Iguanna Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think for a lot of these younger girls it is either a phase or an effort to seem sexy and cool in front of the boys. But kissing your friend at the bar when you are drunk or merely claiming to be bisexual is one thing; Which guy takes this kind of girls seriously? Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think for a lot of these younger girls it is either a phase or an effort to seem sexy and cool in front of the boys. But kissing your friend at the bar when you are drunk or merely claiming to be bisexual is one thing; if push came to shove, I doubt that many of these girls would actually have a real, sexual relationship with another girl. Many do get into those flings though. Not my cup of tea, but to each their own. I just never understood how many love to hold on to the straight label, yet would brand a male as gay or un-dateable if he experimented in the same way. Link to post Share on other sites
ThatMan Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Boy, this thread is bordering on bisexual hatred. I get the point, but take it down a few notches. I was involved with one self-described bisexual woman who used to tell me that I've made her straight. Who is being disrespectful and hateful of bisexuals in this case? Hint: Try walking up to gay or bisexual women and tell them that they only need to get laid. There are countless people who think being bisexual is attractive, crazy, what life of the party is all about, and I've known plenty of women who cried out falsely claiming to be bisexual in a pathetic attempt for attention. Like you said, some are bi-for-the-sake-of-being-in-the-club, and with experienced I've learned just how ridiculous and offensive this is to those who are genuinely bisexual. I've encountered many women who do think advertising themselves as bisexual was a good idea when I gave online dating a shot. I can see how that might bother a few people. Edited January 7, 2014 by ThatMan phone 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mrlonelyone Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, I only meet straight-only women, so not certain how you're meeting your dates. There are plenty of straight women. If there is an increase in bi- or homosexual women, I wonder if that's b/c there is such a shortage of good men.... My gf made a comment a while back that is related. She said that if our relationship did not work out that she was either going to forget about dating/finding a man OR find a woman to satisfy her needs. Lol! I told her forget that! It really is the case that women are told the old "all women are bisexual" line enough that they can have relationships up to intercourse with other women and be "straight". In a certain world view it is impossible for a woman to not be bisexual and therefore not unusual or "gay" if they are. OTOH the same worldview holds that men can't be really bisexual. Men are visual and target specific etc. ad. nauseum. TBH Kaylan is the first person I've ever heard complain about women being bi. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author kaylan Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Im not the only straight guy who feels this way. Once the threesome fantasy wears off, you'll hear some other dudes say they want a straight chick to settle down with. I also theorize that many women know this and thats why girls hold onto the straight label, especially once they get close to marrying age. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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