TheBigQuestion Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I've never understood why someone should care what's socially acceptable? I mean not too long ago it wasn't socially acceptable for white people to befriend black people. Social acceptance has always bordered on the edge of stupidity, confining yourself to a box so others won't look at you shamefully. I'm clean shaven, educated and can cover all of my tattoos if need be and yet somehow I'm low class due to an tattoo? No criminal record, no drug use, intelligent and hardworking all goes out the window because I altered my body? Whether something is socially acceptable (or, in the case of tattoos, they are beyond acceptable, since society now sees them as desirable) will play a big role in dictating whether members of the society will participate in it. People get tattoos primarily because they are "cool" nowadays and because they will not experience any negative repercussions by having them. You're responding to points I never made. I never said that people should care whether having tattoos is socially acceptable. I never said that something is necessarily bad if it isn't socially acceptable, and the same is true for its opposite. All I said was that the widespread acceptance of tattooing is a relatively recent phenomenon, one that is furthered primarily by a herd mentality. Link to post Share on other sites
Eau Claire Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 In ER when someone comes in with a lot of tats, the first thing we do is look for needle marks and signs of drug use. I won't say that someone without tats doesn't have a drug issue, but it is rare. 'Should' society think 'whatever' is not the issue. Much of society 'does' see it as an issue. It stigmatizes individuals. Some individuals don't mind...some do. Each is making their own choice when they get their tattoos. Link to post Share on other sites
Salvatore85 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Your point was tattoos are an impulse decision, no? Short-sighted implies this. And I will actually agree with you, some people do it simply to fit in. As a tattooed individual I personally find that to be an horrible decision. So in that sense we see eye to eye. The thing of it is I can see where people who dislike tattoos are coming from, I don't agree but I understand. It's the same way I feel about religion but that's a whole different story. The difference is I don't run around telling someone they're low class or of lower intelligence because they believe a burning bush talked or some guy fit every living creature on a boat. If that's what they choose to believe than more power to them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Salvatore85 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 In ER when someone comes in with a lot of tats, the first thing we do is look for needle marks and signs of drug use. I won't say that someone without tats doesn't have a drug issue, but it is rare. 'Should' society think 'whatever' is not the issue. Much of society 'does' see it as an issue. It stigmatizes individuals. Some individuals don't mind...some do. Each is making their own choice when they get their tattoos. That's quite funny actually. My brother who suffers from a muscular disorder and also has a few tattoos had to be rushed to the hospital and nearly died however one of the nurses in the room thought he was incoherent and actually told them to check my brother for track marks and be careful of aids. My brother, who was a volunteer EMT at the time, go figure right, could hear everything and it nearly cost a few of them their jobs. The nurse was suspended however. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Conners Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have a small wrist tattoo I got on my 18th birthday and that's it. I also dislike the look of a woman covered in tattoos. The problem is that people used to think that they were original for having a lot of tattoos when infact they are all just sheep. I have a girl on my facebook list who is a very big girl to put it nicely. She always goes on about the originality of her tattoos and is covered in them! She has a half sleeve and thigh piece and several other smaller tattoos. All I can think when I see her is "why did you do that to yourself!?!? what if you want to lose weight one day, the tattoos will be effed!" She doesn't have a feminine looking face either.. it's very butch like. So ugggh! No. Lot's of tattoos on girls I am not a fan of. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have a medium sized black shaded rose up the inside of my thigh. It has no special meaning - it's body art. It's a decoration. No significance whatsoever. If I had one, it's probably the inside of my thigh I would pick. I think that can be very sexy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 In ER when someone comes in with a lot of tats, the first thing we do is look for needle marks and signs of drug use. Yeah, lol...when I see a person with a lot of tats, I think, "I wonder if they did some time in the lock up?" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I won't say that someone without tats doesn't have a drug issue, but it is rare. I'm sorry, but I find this statement a bit ridiculous. It is definitely not "rare" for those without tattoos to be drug users. The absence of track marks or a positive on a urine test in the ER does not equal the absence of any drug issues. Generalisations like these are silly. I understand that you are just going by your own personal experiences, but to make sweeping generalisations and to state them as fact isn't the best way to share what you have seen. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Believe it or not, if someone is covered in tats, it can be a determining factor to an employer in the business world. When I see someone covered in tats, I take a look at their profession, and their job usually seems to garner the kind of person who wears tats. i.e. Forklift operator, restaurant worker, service jobs, artist, mechanic, etc. are usually indicators. I think IT professionals have been accepted lately with their tats. Whether something is socially acceptable (or, in the case of tattoos, they are beyond acceptable, since society now sees them as desirable) will play a big role in dictating whether members of the society will participate in it. People get tattoos primarily because they are "cool" nowadays and because they will not experience any negative repercussions by having them. You're responding to points I never made. I never said that people should care whether having tattoos is socially acceptable. I never said that something is necessarily bad if it isn't socially acceptable, and the same is true for its opposite. All I said was that the widespread acceptance of tattooing is a relatively recent phenomenon, one that is furthered primarily by a herd mentality. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I've seen some girls covered in tattoos and it's very understandable why they'd have them....nobody would look twice at them otherwise. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Lixxy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I've seen some girls covered in tattoos and it's very understandable why they'd have them....nobody would look twice at them otherwise. Wow, rude. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wow, rude. But funny 2 Link to post Share on other sites
acrosstheuniverse Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure where some people get the idea that all tattoos are impulse decisions. I thought about all four of mine for different periods of time before committing. One was in the pipeline for seven years but I didn't know where to get it on my body until I made the appointment, went into the parlour and had the transfer stuck on different places until I knew what I wanted. The other three were all thought about deeply too. It's irrelevant whether the craze for them dies down, because I didn't get mine to look fashionable. None of them are particularly artistic, three are related to music that has been the biggest love and influence of my life, and one is my late mother's birth date (very very small and practically invisible). When nobody else is getting tattoos any more they will all mean so much to me that I'm proud to carry them with me. And it's not like my generation won't all grow old without our tattoos together. I enjoy the fact that my body has reflected the live I've lived in many ways. I have self-harm scars that are a reminder of the strength I drew from to get through one of the hardest times in my life. The tattoos are a joy to wear because I feel infinitely lucky every day to have come across the three bands that they relate to, and have been listening to them and drawing strength from them for nearly a decade with very few other artists coming close. If somebody judged my personality, 'class', education levels or drug habits based on tattoos then they've very handily and quickly shown themselves to be judgmental, short-sighted tossers that I would want no association with. I have a degree, and studying a masters, do very intense level voluntary work with people who are suicidal, don't take drugs, and am very responsible and extremely hard working. The things I've chosen to make permanent on me are only ever going to be awesome additions to my life, and I've not had a day of regret. It's an honour to wear them. Obviously this wouldn't apply to sticker sheet graphics or a random dolphin or something. Actually, my first ever tattoo did get covered up. I was 16 and hugely into the animal rights movement, been veggie for a decade and decided to go vegan. All of my family and friends told me it was foolish, a craze, would be too difficult but I knew it was the right choice and it was for good. So I got 'animal liberation' tattooed on my arm, and it looked terrible! But I wore it with pride for nearly a decade until another tattoo I wanted was suitable to cover it. I'm still vegan, still as pro-animal rights as I was back then and I'm looking forward to getting my next/probably final tattoo in a similar vein. Only this time I'll choose a good artist and not walk into a biker shop scribbling it on a piece of paper, haha. But that's what tattoos are all about for me. Having the conviction in your love, and your beliefs, that you are sure that what you feel is permanent. I love that feeling. Sure many people regret theirs, but not all. Edited January 14, 2014 by acrosstheuniverse 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SmartDude Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Tattoos and a shaved bush...Usually means. 1)non-committal single forever type of women. 2)history of drug abuse. 3)baby daddy is in prison. 4)looking for the next baby daddy cause her welfare check is not big enough yet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I enjoy tats on a woman as long as its not overboard. I enjoy sleeves, but rather she still have one bare arm. And I dislike tats that cover most of a womans sexy parts. Id rather there be no tats on her thighs, ankles, breasts, and lower back. Basically I think there needs to be a balance so you can still see the sexiness in its raw god given form. I did the same thing with my tats. I have a chest piece only on my left pectoral. And I have a sleeve on my right arm. I wont get both arms or both parts of my chest done. I also want a back tattoo, but only one side. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wow, rude. But funny Just being honest is all :/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MissBee Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 If I had one, it's probably the inside of my thigh I would pick. I think that can be very sexy. I'm wincing at how painful that might be! My inner thighs are suuuuuper sensitive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MissBee Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 In ER when someone comes in with a lot of tats, the first thing we do is look for needle marks and signs of drug use. I won't say that someone without tats doesn't have a drug issue, but it is rare. 'Should' society think 'whatever' is not the issue. Much of society 'does' see it as an issue. It stigmatizes individuals. Some individuals don't mind...some do. Each is making their own choice when they get their tattoos. Working at hospitals doesn't make someone particularly rational or sensible. I hope this isn't an official policy, as it would be very ineffective! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I'm wincing at how painful that might be! My inner thighs are suuuuuper sensitive. It stung. I winced. Was worth it. Edited January 14, 2014 by almond I also have a clitoral hood piercing, and work in a highly specialised field - don't judge me bros ;) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Poptree Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think tattoos are sexy on men and women alike Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I love it. Riley Jensen... Link to post Share on other sites
Eau Claire Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 That's quite funny actually. My brother who suffers from a muscular disorder and also has a few tattoos had to be rushed to the hospital and nearly died however one of the nurses in the room thought he was incoherent and actually told them to check my brother for track marks and be careful of aids. My brother, who was a volunteer EMT at the time, go figure right, could hear everything and it nearly cost a few of them their jobs. The nurse was suspended however. So tats almost cost your brother his life. Hint..it did NOT nearly cost them their jobs. I've been in ER for over 3 decades and it would be irresponsible NOT to check him for needle marks. ER workers are constantly taking precautions to not expose themselves to AIDs and have since the 1980's. Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So tats almost cost your brother his life. And how do you figure that? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually, my first ever tattoo did get covered up. I've been considering either a coverup or something incorporated into my first tattoo. Not because I dislike it, but the lines are starting to fade and blur a bit. Being my first tattoo, I've always adored it, but it's time to retire it. It's just not holding up as well as my other tattoos. I have 4 tattoos but nobody knows it. They're all concealed. Link to post Share on other sites
acrosstheuniverse Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I've been considering either a coverup or something incorporated into my first tattoo. Not because I dislike it, but the lines are starting to fade and blur a bit. Being my first tattoo, I've always adored it, but it's time to retire it. It's just not holding up as well as my other tattoos. I have 4 tattoos but nobody knows it. They're all concealed. Yeah I do kinda miss mine, I mean it looked like crap but it represented a stubborn, strong-willed 16 year old with enough conviction in her beliefs to get them inked into her skin. I am proud of that 16 year old whether or not people enjoy the appearance of tattoos. I'm excited to get another animal liberation (in vegan ink, obvs haha) on me sometime very soon as I never fell out of love with the belief system, it just started to look even worse in comparison with my fresher and properly done tattoos, and it was in such an awkward place that it was taking up practically an entire upper arm due to it being smack bang in the middle. So it's now underneath my largest boldest tattoo, but in a way I kinda always know it's there underneath 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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