To Jennie hold on...Encore Performance with corrections

[Tony T]

If you have anxiety attacks with any frequency, talk to your doctor about supplementing your Inderal with a combination of the correct dosage of Klonopin and a good anti-depressant, most likely Paxil. You will have them no more...and the Paxil has been effective in minimizing phobias as well.

 

If you don't do well on the Paxil, by all means have your doctor try other excellent anti depressants.

 

Inderal is usually not used specifically for anxiety, but to reduce the anxiety people have about their rapid heart beat. There are also other more effective beta blockers out there with less side effects than Inderal, which was the first one on the block. Tenormin works great.

 

As for your Mitral Vavle Prolapse, if that makes you feel a bit dissociative during the day, an small dosage of antidepressant at night will take that daytime weird feeling away zippo. The anti-depressant will be helpful in other ways...many people with MVP have at least a low grade depression.

[!]

Who the hell are you to come to a relationship board and start spouting off medical and medication information like your doing? You are really stepping over the boundaries of common sense and intelligence here. Since when does a journalist know squat about which medications a person should be taking?People should be talking to their doctors about their health problems. This is a relationship board. It's bad enough that you monopolize this place as it is but stick to what you know and stop giving out irresponsible advice that could do someone some damage.

If you have anxiety attacks with any frequency, talk to your doctor about supplementing your Inderal with a combination of the correct dosage of Klonopin and a good anti-depressant, most likely Paxil. You will have them no more...and the Paxil has been effective in minimizing phobias as well.

 

If you don't do well on the Paxil, by all means have your doctor try other excellent anti depressants. Inderal is usually not used specifically for anxiety, but to reduce the anxiety people have about their rapid heart beat. There are also other more effective beta blockers out there with less side effects than Inderal, which was the first one on the block. Tenormin works great.

 

As for your Mitral Vavle Prolapse, if that makes you feel a bit dissociative during the day, an small dosage of antidepressant at night will take that daytime weird feeling away zippo. The anti-depressant will be helpful in other ways...many people with MVP have at least a low grade depression.

 

[jennie hold on]

HEY MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! TONY KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AND I WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT TALKING TO MY DR. ANYWAY....HE IS OFFERING ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS, NOT TELLING ME WHAT TO DO.....SO BUTT OUT! THIS HAS BEEN AN ON GOING PROBLEM I HAVE HAD FOR A WHILE AND HE HAS BEEN HELPING ME FOR A LONG TIME NOW! SO STAY OUT OF THIS!

Who the hell are you to come to a relationship board and start spouting off medical and medication information like your doing? You are really stepping over the boundaries of common sense and intelligence here. Since when does a journalist know squat about which medications a person should be taking?People should be talking to their doctors about their health problems. This is a relationship board. It's bad enough that you monopolize this place as it is but stick to what you know and stop giving out irresponsible advice that could do someone some damage.

[Tony T]

I have only recommended she talk to her physician about some things that may help her. None of these things can be obtained without a doctor's approval and prescription. I have worked closely with people with agoraphobia and panic disorder. As a matter of fact, I was an assistant to Dr. Claire Weekes, a British psychologist who wrote the very first book on the subject in 1969.

 

Further, I worked with Dr. David Sheehan, who wrote: "The Anxiety Disease" which is about Panic Disorder. At his request, I participated as an assistant in clinical studies he conducted at the University of South Florida in Tampa, Florida on various medications.

 

The purpose of the forum is to help people and the information I imparted can be helpful to many people with this problem.

 

I have discussed doing this with the site administrator, LoveAngel, and he has stated that it is not out of the range of this board to suggest someone discuss certain matters such as this with a physician. Both of us feel it is well within the range of love to care enough for a fellow man to want him or her to feel more comfortable in life.

 

Whereas it is your own personal decision to upset yourself about my posts, people with anxiety disorder, mitral valve prolapse, and panic disorder do not have the same option. The have to suffer and cannot simply ignore it. However, to ease your pain please do ignore my posts.

 

As for your opinion that I am monopolizing this forum, there have been no rules set for maximum participation. If you have many things to say, you are just as free as anyone to post all day long.

 

If you are truly upset about my the volume or content of my posts, you may need counselling for certain underlying control and anger issues which don't involve me at all. You can also write the site administrator at: <e-mail address removed> and let him know you feel my participation is excessive and unnecessary. He can remove my posts and/or ask me to reduce my participation.

 

It seems highly irrational for any person to get so upset about such a thing. I mean that is a decision you make. If I decided to upset myself about such trivial matters, I would certainly seek help.

[Rogue]

I do feel " ! " has a point though. Even if you did all that work, a lot could have changed since then. Besides,it's not a good idea to go to your doctor and tell him what to prescribe to you.Imagine what that doctor would say if he found out it was taken of the advice of a relationship forum? Probably the same thing "!" said. Professionals tend to take exception to amateurs who give them "advice", no matter what the profession or who the amateur is. It would have been better to suggest a doctor's advice and leave it that.

[Tony T]

Normally I don't get into long discourses on this forum trying to defend myself, but you are a very decent guy so I just want to tell you what's happening here.

 

First, a doctor works for the patient, not vice versa. With all the medical information flowing around in newspapers, on television, and on the Internet, doctors are very used to patients asking them about certain medications and procedures.

 

Drug companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year advertising PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS in lay magazines like Reader's Digest, People Magazine, Cosmopolitan, etc. and on radio, television and in newspapers. As a matter of fact, seldom does a day go by that I do not see a prescription medication advertised on television with the spokesperson or announcer urging the viewer to ask their doctor about this product. Viagra is one of the leaders in this. The makers of Prozac spend tons of money on promotion in the media when it came out.

 

I'm not asking you to change your opinion. I really do respect that. But because I value your opinion and you so much, I am merely wanting you to know that recommending a person talk to their doctor about various treatments is a wise thing and a good doctor will welcome the input, particularly a non-specialist who is not familiar with panic disorder, a psychiatric malady. Family physicians are often not up to date on the latest psychiatric therapies, although they attempt to treat them for their patients. HMOs are bad about allowing general physicians to refer members out to specialists such as psychiatrists.

 

I have not asked any amateurs to give any professionals advice and I'm sorry you read that into it. I agree with you that would be horrifying and totally inappropriate. I have simply recommended they consult with their physician about this and ask about these medications.

 

Regarding my work in this field, it continues to this very day and I am up to date on the most current literature about many psychoneurological diseases, although I prefer not to toot my horn or make recommendations unless I feel they can be of help. I published several articles on the emerging field of psychoneuroimmunology, the relationship between the immune system and our state of mind for the Institute for Noetic Sciences in California in the mid 80s and continue to help in that area of research. I am involved in lots of other similar things I prefer not to disclose here.

 

And I know you come here often...so you do not see me talk about medications very often here.

 

But I do appreciate your input but if I feel I can help someone I will...and if I ever have a particular medical problem that I talk about here and you have knowledge of a particular drug or therapy that might help me feel better, I would be crushed if you withheld that information.

 

For some reason, many people have gotten down on me in the last week or so. It must be the allignment of the planets...or the SuperBowl week, some other curious metaphysical anomaly I am not aware of.

[!!]

THIS IS A PUBLIC BOARD AND WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS. ANYTHING POSTED ON THIS BOARD IS MY BUSINESS JUST AS IT IS YOURS. THIS IS A FREAKING RELATIONSHIP MESSAGE BOARD, NOT THE PSYCHIATRIC HOTLINE. THIS ISNT THE PLACE TO ASK FOR ADVICE ON YOUR MEDICATIONS. WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE, WALGREENS PHARMACY? STICK TO THE SUBJECT OF RELATIONSHIPS AND FIND A MORE APPROPRIATE BOARD TO DISCUSS YOUR MANY NEUROSES AND MEDICAL QUESTIONS. LOVESHACK=RELATIONSHIP ISSUES NOT FREAKING DREAM INTERPRETATION AND MEDICATION ADVICE.

HEY MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! TONY KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AND I WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT TALKING TO MY DR. ANYWAY....HE IS OFFERING ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS, NOT TELLING ME WHAT TO DO.....SO BUTT OUT! THIS HAS BEEN AN ON GOING PROBLEM I HAVE HAD FOR A WHILE AND HE HAS BEEN HELPING ME FOR A LONG TIME NOW! SO STAY OUT OF THIS!

[jennie tony]

tony, i am sorry for starting all this....i feel responsible but for those and "!" it started along time ago when i came here seeking advice about my jealousy and control issues and that was causing alot of problems with my boyfriend.

 

i then sought out counseling and ended up on the celexa....so it did start out with a relationship problem and just progressed from there.

 

you have given me a ton of valuable advice and mentioned medication i never heard of that i was able to ask my dr. about and did in fact, such as zoloft.

 

so whoever "!" is, she/he can just not read these posts. i also read your credentials a long time ago and i knew that you had experience in this field.

 

if you were some one on here that did not know what you were talking about i would of just blew you off dismissed the whole message.

 

anyway, i don't care what the others say, they don't understand and that is too bad. i know you don't need me to defend you and you should not have to defend yourself cause of my post and i apologize.

 

you don't have to respond back either....just keep up the good work, and oh yeah, thank you for the advice jennie

Normally I don't get into long discourses on this forum trying to defend myself, but you are a very decent guy so I just want to tell you what's happening here. First, a doctor works for the patient, not vice versa. With all the medical information flowing around in newspapers, on television, and on the Internet, doctors are very used to patients asking them about certain medications and procedures.

 

Drug companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year advertising PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS in lay magazines like Reader's Digest, People Magazine, Cosmopolitan, etc. and on radio, television and in newspapers. As a matter of fact, seldom does a day go by that I do not see a prescription medication advertised on television with the spokesperson or announcer urging the viewer to ask their doctor about this product. Viagra is one of the leaders in this. The makers of Prozac spend tons of money on promotion in the media when it came out. I'm not asking you to change your opinion. I really do respect that. But because I value your opinion and you so much, I am merely wanting you to know that recommending a person talk to their doctor about various treatments is a wise thing and a good doctor will welcome the input, particularly a non-specialist who is not familiar with panic disorder, a psychiatric malady. Family physicians are often not up to date on the latest psychiatric therapies, although they attempt to treat them for their patients. HMOs are bad about allowing general physicians to refer members out to specialists such as psychiatrists. I have not asked any amateurs to give any professionals advice and I'm sorry you read that into it. I agree with you that would be horrifying and totally inappropriate. I have simply recommended they consult with their physician about this and ask about these medications. Regarding my work in this field, it continues to this very day and I am up to date on the most current literature about many psychoneurological diseases, although I prefer not to toot my horn or make recommendations unless I feel they can be of help. I published several articles on the emerging field of psychoneuroimmunology, the relationship between the immune system and our state of mind for the Institute for Noetic Sciences in California in the mid 80s and continue to help in that area of research. I am involved in lots of other similar things I prefer not to disclose here. And I know you come here often...so you do not see me talk about medications very often here.

 

But I do appreciate your input but if I feel I can help someone I will...and if I ever have a particular medical problem that I talk about here and you have knowledge of a particular drug or therapy that might help me feel better, I would be crushed if you withheld that information. For some reason, many people have gotten down on me in the last week or so. It must be the allignment of the planets...or the SuperBowl week, some other curious metaphysical anomaly I am not aware of.

[jennie tony]

YOU ARE RIGHT THIS IS A PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD SO I HAVE EVERY RIGHT POSTING MY MESSAGE ABOUT WHATEVER I WANT TO AND IF IT IS OUT OF LINE THEN I WILL BE TOLD THAT.....

THIS IS A PUBLIC BOARD AND WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS. ANYTHING POSTED ON THIS BOARD IS MY BUSINESS JUST AS IT IS YOURS. THIS IS A FREAKING RELATIONSHIP MESSAGE BOARD, NOT THE PSYCHIATRIC HOTLINE. THIS ISNT THE PLACE TO ASK FOR ADVICE ON YOUR MEDICATIONS. WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE, WALGREENS PHARMACY? STICK TO THE SUBJECT OF RELATIONSHIPS AND FIND A MORE APPROPRIATE BOARD TO DISCUSS YOUR MANY NEUROSES AND MEDICAL QUESTIONS. LOVESHACK=RELATIONSHIP ISSUES NOT FREAKING DREAM INTERPRETATION AND MEDICATION ADVICE.

[Paulie]

Kudos to jennie.

 

Paulie's one more voice that REALLY appreciates Tony, and all that he contributes to my, and so many unnamed people's lives from his work on this forum.

 

Thanks, Tones:

 

You the MAN!!!

[Juds]

I'm with you Paulie. Tony's advice regarding this matter is up to date and factual.

 

I can't see why everyone is getting all bent out of shape over this. Giving support and encouragement to someone who is suffering, how is that a bad thing? None of those medications can be given without prescription anyway, so what's the big deal? Jennie would have to see her Dr. anyway. At least this way, she can make a mental list of

 

Q&A's to ask her Dr. regarding different combinations to make her feel better.

 

Surely just chatting about medical conditions isn't a crime. Old wives tales have been passed down for generations, and people often discuss their ailments with one another. Can't see the big deal here. At least Tony's advice is sensible, and accurate.

 

Jennie realises that Tony is NOT a doctor, we all realise that. So to !, whoever you are, stop putting down others. You sound like a whinging, nasty, angry and very unhappy human being. Give it a rest!!

 

To Tony, I appreciate your advice, you'll never know how much!

[Rogue]

What? "whiny, nasty, angry "? For simply stating that Tony isn't a doctor and prescriptions should be left at a doctor's discretion?

[Tony T]

Rogue:

 

Nobody is talking about you. They are referring to the post way above that got all this started. And never in my life, either on this form or off, have I ever suggested that prescriptions be written by other than a licensed physician.

 

Please see my post to you above.

 

To see what this is all about, you will have to read way up on this thread.

[Kristine]

I have to agree with Tony....having had a medical problem requiring surgery 2 years ago...I can tell you that the more informed about your condition the better. I looked at my physician as a partner. I would take great offense if he didn't allow me the latitude to explore my condition and the treatment it entailed. We discussed it and agreed TOGETHER our best course of action. Ultimately, the physician is the expert...but it is not uncommon for patients to be extremely well informed these days. I believe it raises the bar and benefits all.

 

Sorry!!!

Normally I don't get into long discourses on this forum trying to defend myself, but you are a very decent guy so I just want to tell you what's happening here. First, a doctor works for the patient, not vice versa. With all the medical information flowing around in newspapers, on television, and on the Internet, doctors are very used to patients asking them about certain medications and procedures.

 

Drug companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year advertising PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS in lay magazines like Reader's Digest, People Magazine, Cosmopolitan, etc. and on radio, television and in newspapers. As a matter of fact, seldom does a day go by that I do not see a prescription medication advertised on television with the spokesperson or announcer urging the viewer to ask their doctor about this product. Viagra is one of the leaders in this. The makers of Prozac spend tons of money on promotion in the media when it came out. I'm not asking you to change your opinion. I really do respect that. But because I value your opinion and you so much, I am merely wanting you to know that recommending a person talk to their doctor about various treatments is a wise thing and a good doctor will welcome the input, particularly a non-specialist who is not familiar with panic disorder, a psychiatric malady. Family physicians are often not up to date on the latest psychiatric therapies, although they attempt to treat them for their patients. HMOs are bad about allowing general physicians to refer members out to specialists such as psychiatrists. I have not asked any amateurs to give any professionals advice and I'm sorry you read that into it. I agree with you that would be horrifying and totally inappropriate. I have simply recommended they consult with their physician about this and ask about these medications. Regarding my work in this field, it continues to this very day and I am up to date on the most current literature about many psychoneurological diseases, although I prefer not to toot my horn or make recommendations unless I feel they can be of help. I published several articles on the emerging field of psychoneuroimmunology, the relationship between the immune system and our state of mind for the Institute for Noetic Sciences in California in the mid 80s and continue to help in that area of research. I am involved in lots of other similar things I prefer not to disclose here. And I know you come here often...so you do not see me talk about medications very often here.

 

But I do appreciate your input but if I feel I can help someone I will...and if I ever have a particular medical problem that I talk about here and you have knowledge of a particular drug or therapy that might help me feel better, I would be crushed if you withheld that information. For some reason, many people have gotten down on me in the last week or so. It must be the allignment of the planets...or the SuperBowl week, some other curious metaphysical anomaly I am not aware of.

[!]

I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BECOME MORE INFORMED WHEN IT COMES TO OUR HEALTH. THATS NOT THE POINT HERE THO. THE POINT IS THAT PEOPLE WHO COME HERE LOOKING FOR HEALTH AND MEDICATION ADVICE SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THEIR DOCTORS OR TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH. TONY DOESNT KNOW JENNYS MEDICAL HISTORY SO ITS WRONG FOR HIM TO JUST RATTLE OFF THE NAMES OF MEDICATIONS SHE SHOULD ASK HER DOCTOR ABOUT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WHILE TONY GIVES GOOD ADVICE ON SOME THINGS HE IS NOT A DOCTOR OR PYSCHIATRIST. THIS IS NOT A MEDICAL MESSAGE BOARD. ITS CLEAR THAT JENNY HAS ALOT OF PROBLEMS AND NEEDS HELP BUT THIS BOARD IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR PROPER MEDICAL CARE OR DISCUSSING CONCERNS WITH ONE'S DOCTOR. ANYONE CAN STATE THEIR CREDENTIALS HERE. I COULD SAY I'M AN ASTRONAUT BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS TRUE. JENNY SHOULDNT FEEL SHE CAN TURN TO A RElATIONSHIP BOARD FOR ADVICE AND REASSURENCE ABOUT HER MEDICAL PROBLEMS. SHE SHOULD SEeK PROFESSIONAL HELP. THIS PLAcE IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE OR A CRUTCH. PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHT HERE TO START RATTLING OFF MEDICAL ADVICE. SOME PEOPLE JUST THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING. ITS REALLY DANGEROUS WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BIG PROBLEMS TURN TO A PLACE LIKE THIS FOR HELP INSTEAD OF THEIR DOCTOR. WHAT IF SOMEONE GIVES WRONG ADVICE?

I have to agree with Tony....having had a medical problem requiring surgery 2 years ago...I can tell you that the more informed about your condition the better. I looked at my physician as a partner. I would take great offense if he didn't allow me the latitude to explore my condition and the treatment it entailed. We discussed it and agreed TOGETHER our best course of action. Ultimately, the physician is the expert...but it is not uncommon for patients to be extremely well informed these days. I believe it raises the bar and benefits all. Sorry!!!

[jennie tony]

WHY DON'T YOU JUST DROP IT LADY?! DON'T WORRY ABOUT THIS BETWEEN TONY AND ME.....JUST DROP IT ALREADY IT IS A DEAD SUBJECT! LET IT GO NOW........GEEZ! I WILL NOT READ ANYMORE OF YOUR POSTS SO THAT THIS WILL NOT DRAG ON ANY LONGER! IF YOU WANT THE LAST WORD THEN BY ALL MEANS HAVE IT, THEN GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE.....EVERYONE ELSE HAS!

I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BECOME MORE INFORMED WHEN IT COMES TO OUR HEALTH. THATS NOT THE POINT HERE THO. THE POINT IS THAT PEOPLE WHO COME HERE LOOKING FOR HEALTH AND MEDICATION ADVICE SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THEIR DOCTORS OR TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH. TONY DOESNT KNOW JENNYS MEDICAL HISTORY SO ITS WRONG FOR HIM TO JUST RATTLE OFF THE NAMES OF MEDICATIONS SHE SHOULD ASK HER DOCTOR ABOUT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WHILE TONY GIVES GOOD ADVICE ON SOME THINGS HE IS NOT A DOCTOR OR PYSCHIATRIST. THIS IS NOT A MEDICAL MESSAGE BOARD. ITS CLEAR THAT JENNY HAS ALOT OF PROBLEMS AND NEEDS HELP BUT THIS BOARD IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR PROPER MEDICAL CARE OR DISCUSSING CONCERNS WITH ONE'S DOCTOR. ANYONE CAN STATE THEIR CREDENTIALS HERE. I COULD SAY I'M AN ASTRONAUT BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS TRUE. JENNY SHOULDNT FEEL SHE CAN TURN TO A RElATIONSHIP BOARD FOR ADVICE AND REASSURENCE ABOUT HER MEDICAL PROBLEMS. SHE SHOULD SEeK PROFESSIONAL HELP. THIS PLAcE IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE OR A CRUTCH. PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHT HERE TO START RATTLING OFF MEDICAL ADVICE. SOME PEOPLE JUST THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING. ITS REALLY DANGEROUS WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BIG PROBLEMS TURN TO A PLACE LIKE THIS FOR HELP INSTEAD OF THEIR DOCTOR. WHAT IF SOMEONE GIVES WRONG ADVICE?

[Tiggi-Anne]

Who the hell are you to come on and judge someone who offers advice, provides it and makes you feel better? You are sad b*stard if you fire off like thatI P*ss off to another board if you don't like it!

Who the hell are you to come to a relationship board and start spouting off medical and medication information like your doing? You are really stepping over the boundaries of common sense and intelligence here. Since when does a journalist know squat about which medications a person should be taking?People should be talking to their doctors about their health problems. This is a relationship board. It's bad enough that you monopolize this place as it is but stick to what you know and stop giving out irresponsible advice that could do someone some damage.