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I don't see how you're doing any better than her.

 

I don't live with a man who lies to me and cheats and etc..

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I don't live with a man who lies to me and cheats and etc..

 

 

No. You just hang around waiting for him year after year and repeatedly post threads obsessing about why he won't leave his gf. Sad.

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Promise ring? Meh!

 

Any self respecting OW should require a full carat per year of waiting for said married man.

 

LOL! Honey chile! A) He's not married. B) I'm not waiting. And C) I don't love him for his money.

 

I think it's awful that this lady he's shacked up with seems to be threatening him. She knew he's not rich right now in the first place so... If he's broke and having flings it's OK, but don't let him have a serious long term love affair on the side, and suddenly all bets are off? And you tell me who has the low self esteem. Just saying.

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He gets the milk for free from you, dear heart, and goes home to her.

 

You're not his main attraction.

 

You describe it as a promise ring, but she msy describe it as a gift from the heart.

 

What has he purchased for you?

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Frankky? You are the one with the los self esteem. You're all worried about some promise ring. If you had any self esteem you'd quit this guy and you'd quit posting about him, forever, chile.

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This is an everyday and sordid thing: man with two women who is deceiving one of them, with the other making catty comments about her competitor and casting herself as free and independent, instead of used.

 

Great sex maybe ... Though by now sounds like a routine. Most people want more than that. If you suits you to like to think you have more, well bitching about your competitor makes that position sound real unconvincing.

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Would you say that a man in his mid 40s who shacks up since 2008 and gave her a promise ring is stringing her along?

 

Also consider the fact that this man has loved another woman also for two years?

 

How long is too long for a middle aged woman to wear a promise ring and play wife, pay bills, and cook (but apparently not iron his Sunday morning shirts for church!) while he cheats -- and really expect that he'll marry her?

 

What if I know this man said he doesn't even want to think marriage for another 25 years, LOL? Is he saying he doesn't want to get married in general, or that he doesn't want to marry her.

 

I think it's true: if a man wants a woman, he will let her know right away and never risk letting her get away or string her along...

 

Are you the "her" here or is it someone else?

 

This man is immature plain and simple and shouldn't marry ANYONE, not her or anyone else and he likely will not marry her or any other woman who comes along.

 

Giving a promise ring at his age is silly IMO and he is silly for doing it and the woman who accepts it...well I don't think that makes much sense.

 

Being 40 doesn't mean you're mature and ready to settle down, some men and women NEVER grow up they just get old. He seems like that type.

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How long is too long to wait for a cheating man who gives a middle aged woman a promise ring and allows her to play wife, pay bills, and cook, while never taking a step toward marriage? I would think her situation would serve as a cautionary tale to the OW rather than her waiting in line for her turn for this treatment.

 

Ditto.

 

I don't see why liloldlady finds this amusing as it isn't...why would you want to even be with a "man" like that?! Being the OW is no better, he's still the same loser. But then again, take him off the streets so others don't have to run into him in the dating world. Honestly, that's how I feel about men like this. It boggles my mind how they get even one woman much less two, but at least if they're otherwise occupied it saves some other hapless woman from the situation.

 

I am half these people's ages and I have NO time for such shenanigans. I wouldn't accept a "promise ring" from a man at this point in life, neither would I be his OW then dissect his immature relationship with his almost-fiance...BOTH are wastes of time and the love of such a man isn't worth anything to me. There are better men who aren't cheating and aren't acting like they are their shoe size instead of their ages.

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he likely will not marry her

 

Agreed.

 

Giving a promise ring at his age is silly IMO and he is silly for doing it and the woman who accepts it...well I don't think that makes much sense.

 

Beyond weird.

 

I wouldn't accept a "promise ring" from a man at this point in life

 

Me, either. And even if it is an engagement room, I'm not going to wear it for 6 years!! That's called a "shut up" ring. Men will stall for a long time given certain circumstances.

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He doesn't even have to SEE the cow.

 

The cow sends the milk long-distance for two years. Waiting for him to make a mooooove.

 

Crap.

Just read the mod warning after posting.

 

How long is too long for an engagement?

 

Erg. It's individualized.

 

And symbolic to the two.

 

My parents dated one, engaged five and married 32.

 

I was engaged for a few months. We put our wedding together in seven weeks.

 

It varies.

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Ditto.

 

I don't see why liloldlady finds this amusing as it isn't...why would you want to even be with a "man" like that?! Being the OW is no better, he's still the same loser. But then again, take him off the streets so others don't have to run into him in the dating world. Honestly, that's how I feel about men like this. It boggles my mind how they get even one woman much less two, but at least if they're otherwise occupied it saves some other hapless woman from the situation.

 

I am half these people's ages and I have NO time for such shenanigans. I wouldn't accept a "promise ring" from a man at this point in life, neither would I be his OW then dissect his immature relationship with his almost-fiance...BOTH are wastes of time and the love of such a man isn't worth anything to me. There are better men who aren't cheating and aren't acting like they are their shoe size instead of their ages.

 

LOL precisely. I've gotten two promise rings in my life; one at age 16 the other at 21 and both guys were very young. At 26 aint nothin like the real thing baby. Save the "promise rings" and empty promises for a simple chick.

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My bet:

 

It's not a "promise ring" at all.

 

That's just the story LOL has been fed.

 

Heck, it could even be a wedding band at this rate.

 

This guy isn't on the up and up obviously.

 

Maybe his girlfriend isn't "waiting on a ring" because she already has one.

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My bet:

 

It's not a "promise ring" at all.

 

That's just the story LOL has been fed.

 

Heck, it could even be a wedding band at this rate.

 

This guy isn't on the up and up obviously.

 

Maybe his girlfriend isn't "waiting on a ring" because she already has one.

 

 

I remember when I busted an ex that was trying to reconcile with me and found out he already had a gf. He cheated on her with me and I had no idea. When I confronted her and told her about it, she began to gloat and tell me how if I were so special, why didn't he move to my state with me and how they have such a bright future, etc. Mind you, she'd only known him for 4 months while I had known him for SIX YEARS. I told her that the only person he cared about was HIMSELF and that wisdom is folly to a fool and I don't care to argue with fools therefore the conversation is over. She carried on and called me outside of my name and harassed me.

 

Two years later, I get a random text message from her apologizing to me for being so nasty and how I was right; he did the SAME EXACT THING TO HER. What a surprise :rolleyes:!! But she was so special!! But he promised her the moon and the stars!! How anyone could ever trust someone with such little integrity, self respect, and maturity is truly beyond my comprehension.

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Heck, it could even be a wedding band at this rate.

 

I'm glad you know him so well. Wow. When did you meet him?

 

I did ask him months ago: you didn't get married, did you? "Nope." He's not ready.

 

Maybe his girlfriend isn't "waiting on a ring" because she already has one.

 

Well she may have to wait on his fidelity, then. It's not happening. :laugh:

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No one more than you knows this cad isn't faithful to ANY woman. She may not have the luxury of the truth for this aged "rock star", but you and his other groupies don't have that excuse. Lol!

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I'm glad you know him so well. Wow. When did you meet him?

 

Every day, on this board. I see him everywhere. He gets around.

He just goes by different users names and dates/lives with different women.

 

I did ask him months ago: you didn't get married, did you? "Nope." He's not ready.

 

Well she may have to wait on his fidelity, then. It's not happening. :laugh:

 

Looks like anyone waiting on his fidelity better not place any heavy bets on it.

 

Now, clearly you seem to think he's lying to her but not to you.

 

You've been given evidence (your own experience actually) that he lies to women he is close with.

Do you have any EVIDENCE he'd telling you the truth?

 

And I must be confused.

I got lost in your story before. Is this the True Love or the Rock Star or are they the same guy?

 

And you are with an attached other person right?

 

Seriously. I am not trying to be offensive. I just can't remember it all.

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ommmmm "he cheats".....you WANT to marry this?

 

No. As a friend, I know for a fact that he's not ready for it.

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