Grumpybutfun Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I personally don't think sexual attraction is that spark either since I have had that spark with very few women but have had sexual chemistry with many women. Spark for me refers to that instant rapport that makes me sit up and throw out my best wit and show the sides of myself I usually save for the best. I haven't had it often but it has definitely been there and I have definitely noticed the electricity and energy that rolls off us both as we start a dance of interrelating. Grumps 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Eggplant Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Women need the spark to feel physical attraction; men don't. Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Thats one of the reasons ive given up after 33 years its clear i dont have that "it" to create a spark Link to post Share on other sites
Teraskas Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Take Teraskas, he's responded to some of my posts here, and I can honestly say I am suprised he's having issues with women. From the few posts I've read from him, he's VERY articulate for a foreigner. He made a very good impression on me. And there ARE guys like him. Some successful, good looking men, but not arrogant, doing well in their careers, own a nice home with 2 car garage, etc. Is kind to their fellow man, does volunteer work, and gets along socially with friends, adore their own family members, but can't snag a woman to save their life. Perhaps those types are better off being single? If woman don't see THOSE types with any real value, then they're missing out, yes? I appreciate the compliment, lol. ^^ Granted, I still make mistakes but that's attributed to either my lack of coffee or the fact that I'm still adjusting to this new keyboard. Glad I managed to make a good impression on someone. That's at least one thing I manage to do right. (Perhaps not so with women, but meh.) I don't know why I'm struggling to be honest. I think it mainly has to do with high standards (on women's end) and judgmentalism of women in today's society. Take a look at this post in the recent 'How long have you been single ?' thread by notyouraveragebabe. I didn't comment in that thread, because I have been going over this list of requirements in my head. So I'll put my thoughts on it in bold here for easy reference. 'I would say men are going to disagree with my post. I don't think I am asking for a lot. 1. Have a good job- is that really hard? Considering that most guys that age are in college ? Yes. Personally, I already have my teacher's degree atm, but some women don't seem to realise that we are still stuck in a recession AND that schools want teachers with experience. Thus trying to land a job is similar to dating, you're going to experience a lot of rejection before finding acceptance. As a side project I'm also working on a novel which I plan to have published once it's finished. Should I be scrutinized because of that for not having a 'good job' where I make 10k a day, 750K a year as CEO status ? 2. Work-out-eat healthy- take care of yourself, it's your body. I don't want my future husband to have a stroke at 50 and bed ridden at 51. Considering that I've had cancer in the past, and some days the pain feels like there are daggers are firmly planted in my flanks, it is tough to work out in my spare time when I'm not literally dying from the pain. 3. Education- Geez go to college. Do something with your life. I want a guy with goals and who is ambitious. See #1. Just because someone didn't 'finish' college or lacks a degree means they're braindead ? I was at another college (prior to teacher training college) which I didn't manage to finish because of the ridiculously high workload, where I studied as an interpreter Dutch / English / Russian. Does that mean that despite the fact that I'm well versed in Dutch, English, French, German, Italian and Russian as well as have great deal of knowledge about various different subjects that I should be considered 'uneducated / dumb, etc. ?' 4. Handsome- I don't want a guy with no teeth. I take care of my appearance. Sure I'm not the best looking guy, but I'm certainly not the worst either. 5. Sweet- buy me some flowers, tell me I'm pretty, open my door. I'm many things and this is one of them, yet despite these qualities women never even bother to give me a chance to display these. And when these are actually displayed (sometimes during a date although I tend to limit it severely) it's looked down upon. Seriously, make up your mind, women. xD 6. Car- if you have a job then you would have a car. If you're still attending college then a car isn't exactly cheap. Plus over here in Antwerp the amount of cars is so ridiculous that practically EVERY day when I do have to attend classes, it's near impossible to find a parking spot. The campus doesn't have a dedicated parking space and is literally in the middle of the city. Thus, I rely on public transportation instead. (Such as a tram or bus) This might be a good lesson for some of you guys. It's not that hard.' I'm just saying, because I don't meet all these 'requirements' or even a few of them, should I be disregarded or rejected because of my lack of personal achievements rather than relationship-minded qualities ? According to women in Western society these days, it looks to me that it's a resounding 'yes'. Yet another reason why Western society should be purged and forced to start anew. I'm not saying that her requirements are outrageous, but where's the flexibility on them ? To me, it seems that the more women establish such standards and won't even bother to slightly adjust them depending on the person they're dating (or that person's background), it's no wonder they're single and complaining they can't find any 'good men'. Just think of the VAST amount of guys who showed potential, yet were rejected despite inflexible standards ? I know I'm one of them. Edited February 24, 2014 by Teraskas 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 THAT'S flirting? She must be one of those doms or something I suppose, that is if your roll in those circles. lol! Of course her calling me "old", I could've said, "Well, you could shed a few pounds, honey". But apparently THAT might not go over well either, yes...no? I'm more about "building rapport" as my method of "creating attraction". ;-) Perhaps...she did tell me she was "geeky" and I said, "So...would you care to talk nerdy to me?" It didn't get much of a laugh from her, but it did get a laugh from the rest of the table. She twisted her ankle while playing in our activity, so she wasn't necessarily in the best of moods. She wasn't very engaging and was engrossed in texting someone during our restaurant Meetup, while the rest of us talked. If your goal is to I understand the mystery of spark, it IS energy, excitement, between two people. It gets the blood pumping in an enjoyable way. In response to the age comment, you could tease her for being but a child, or tell her you're not too old to chase her. The point is to rise to her teasing, NOT insult her. It's an opportunity to be bold. In fact, she begging you to be bold. Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Women need the spark to feel physical attraction; men don't. Not true. I've been really sexualy nto a guy that I DIDNT feel that special "something" for. Just because I have chemistry and sexual desires for a guy doesn't mean I feel a spark. For me, a spark is more rare than pure physical attraction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I appreciate the compliment, lol. ^^ Granted, I still make mistakes but that's attributed to either my lack of coffee or the fact that I'm still adjusting to this new keyboard. Glad I managed to make a good impression on someone. That's at least one thing I manage to do right. (Perhaps not so with women, but meh.) I don't know why I'm struggling to be honest. I think it mainly has to do with high standards (on women's end) and judgmentalism of women in today's society. Take a look at this post in the recent 'How long have you been single ?' thread by notyouraveragebabe. I didn't comment in that thread, because I have been going over this list of requirements in my head. So I'll put my thoughts on it in bold here for easy reference. 'I would say men are going to disagree with my post. I don't think I am asking for a lot. 1. Have a good job- is that really hard? Considering that most guys that age are in college ? Yes. Personally, I already have my teacher's degree atm, but some women don't seem to realise that we are still stuck in a recession AND that schools want teachers with experience. Thus trying to land a job is similar to dating, you're going to experience a lot of rejection before finding acceptance. As a side project I'm also working on a novel which I plan to have published once it's finished. Should I be scrutinized because of that for not having a 'good job' where I make 10k a day, 750K a year as CEO status ? 2. Work-out-eat healthy- take care of yourself, it's your body. I don't want my future husband to have a stroke at 50 and bed ridden at 51. Considering that I've had cancer in the past, and some days the pain feels like there are daggers are firmly planted in my flanks, it is tough to work out in my spare time when I'm not literally dying from the pain. 3. Education- Geez go to college. Do something with your life. I want a guy with goals and who is ambitious. See #1. Just because someone didn't 'finish' college or lacks a degree means they're braindead ? I was at another college (prior to teacher training college) which I didn't manage to finish because of the ridiculously high workload, where I studied as an interpreter Dutch / English / Russian. Does that mean that despite the fact that I'm well versed in Dutch, English, French, German, Italian and Russian as well as have great deal of knowledge about various different subjects that I should be considered 'uneducated / dumb, etc. ?' 4. Handsome- I don't want a guy with no teeth. I take care of my appearance. Sure I'm not the best looking guy, but I'm certainly not the worst either. 5. Sweet- buy me some flowers, tell me I'm pretty, open my door. I'm many things and this is one of them, yet despite these qualities women never even bother to give me a chance to display these. And when these are actually displayed (sometimes during a date although I tend to limit it severely) it's looked down upon. Seriously, make up your mind, women. xD 6. Car- if you have a job then you would have a car. If you're still attending college then a car isn't exactly cheap. Plus over here in Antwerp the amount of cars is so ridiculous that practically EVERY day when I do have to attend classes, it's near impossible to find a parking spot. The campus doesn't have a dedicated parking space and is literally in the middle of the city. Thus, I rely on public transportation instead. (Such as a tram or bus) This might be a good lesson for some of you guys. It's not that hard.' I'm just saying, because I don't meet all these 'requirements' or even a few of them, should I be disregarded or rejected because of my lack of personal achievements rather than relationship-minded qualities ? According to women in Western society these days, it looks to me that it's a resounding 'yes'. Yet another reason why Western society should be purged and forced to start anew. I'm not saying that her requirements are outrageous, but where's the flexibility on them ? To me, it seems that the more women establish such standards and won't even bother to slightly adjust them depending on the person they're dating (or that person's background), it's no wonder they're single and complaining they can't find any 'good men'. Just think of the VAST amount of guys who showed potential, yet were rejected despite inflexible standards ? I know I'm one of them. You honestly sound like my ideal guy, haha! Plus I love European people as I love traveling and Europe is my favorite continent. Seriously though. Girls like that^^^^ are the braindead ones in my honest opinion. .. Only a moron would think that you have to go to college in order to be educated:lmao: No decent and lovely man would go near a girl like that; truly decent men are not judgmental. .. this girls attitude is disgusting. A truly nice guy would be wayyy put off. Any ways. I can't believe you're still single, you sound lovely. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Take Teraskas, he's responded to some of my posts here, and I can honestly say I am suprised he's having issues with women. From the few posts I've read from him, he's VERY articulate for a foreigner. He made a very good impression on me. And there ARE guys like him. Some successful, good looking men, but not arrogant, doing well in their careers, own a nice home with 2 car garage, etc. Is kind to their fellow man, does volunteer work, and gets along socially with friends, adore their own family members, but can't snag a woman to save their life. Perhaps those types are better off being single? If woman don't see THOSE types with any real value, then they're missing out, yes? But without a spark... something that just makes them "different"from other guys, I will turn aperfectly decent guy like that down. I turned a guy like tthat down late last year. He was everything a girl could ask for. I simply didn't enjoy kissing him. Having sex with him made me cringe. He was cute looking and sexy yet I just didn't have any chemistry or a spark with him. I'm not wrong for not choosing to spend months creating a desire to have sex when I could find a guy who I want to kiss from the start. Link to post Share on other sites
Scales Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 If your goal is to I understand the mystery of spark, it IS energy, excitement, between two people. It gets the blood pumping in an enjoyable way. In response to the age comment, you could tease her for being but a child, or tell her you're not too old to chase her. The point is to rise to her teasing, NOT insult her. It's an opportunity to be bold. In fact, she begging you to be bold. I mentioned this also. xxoo I believe you are absolutely right, I always take signs like that as flirting. She was begging for you to make a strong return that is more on the charming side than insulting. But without a spark... something that just makes them "different"from other guys, I will turn aperfectly decent guy like that down. I turned a guy like tthat down late last year. He was everything a girl could ask for. I simply didn't enjoy kissing him. Having sex with him made me cringe. He was cute looking and sexy yet I just didn't have any chemistry or a spark with him. I'm not wrong for not choosing to spend months creating a desire to have sex when I could find a guy who I want to kiss from the start. I find that to be an interesting observation, because for a man to find a woman sexy, but the thought of having sex with her be awful, would be almost impossible. I mean she would have to smell like feet and cheese kind of thing. Its hard to relate to, but I definitely believe you. Things that can be determined about "spark" from this thread. It is at its core sexual but not physical. It is a mental attraction one has to the other person: An image almost. An aspect about a person that makes you believe not only that they are different in a superior fashion mixed with sexual tension. If you are unable to separate yourself from other competitors and unable to create any sexual tension = no spark. I think a lot of guys who are very respectful of women lose their chance early on because they are leaving out their sexuality from the interaction. Anyways, love this thread:laugh: 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kodakgirl Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Spark: I will freely admit I don't know what it is. I have my list of standards, and my list of nice bonuses, and a man can cover just about all of them without guaranteeing a "spark." There is a certain kind of look I really like--a man who could easily be called "adorable" rather than "striking", smiley, young-looking, with a friendly face-- and that probably triggers it more than most other factors, but why I have no idea. It isn't just sexual attraction. I feel wild sexual attraction for James Dean, and I'm 100% sure if I travelled back in time to 1954 and met him, we would not have a spark (I mean, I'd sleep with him anyway, haha, but that's not the same thing). In fact when I first feel that "spark" I'm not thinking about sex at all, at least not consciously. I think, if I had to define it, it's a kind of awareness that we could click on an emotional, mental, and physical level, picking up on all the subconscious clues given by appearance and body language. In my experience, yes, it's there or it's not. Honestly usually a first glance will indicate to me if I will feel a "spark".... every time I've felt it at a glance and gone on to talk to him, I've found yes, he IS the kind of guy I'd want to date. It's like I've picked up on all these qualities about him, just like that. My ex, who I loved for three years, an incredibly wonderful guy who was also the best friend I've ever had--I felt a spark at one look, without knowing the first thing about him. Honestly I've even found it online... occasionally one picture just leaps out at me, just an ordinary picture (never one of the "hottest" guys), and I immediately feel more interested in this person than anyone else, even if their profile is just okay. And you know, it's always held up. I'd say it's happened three times-- once he wrote back to say he was just getting into a relationship, but thanks for the nice message, and he answered the question I'd asked (which at least indicates he was a very nice guy, which is something I look for!). One other time he lived in Florida (I'm in Canada) and I had no intention of pursuing anything long-distance but I felt I just had to know this person, and we actually clicked so, so well, my instinct was very right, though ultimately neither of us wanted an LDR so our correspondence trailed off, no hurt feelings. The last guy I really couldn't put my finger on what it was about him-- two super simple pictures, just him sitting somewhere smiling, a pretty standard profile. I took forever to actually write because I couldn't even put my finger on why I wanted to. When I did he was enthusiastic and we met up and it was better than it ever had been with anyone, even my ex, I felt it was "it". We dated a couple months but HE apparently didn't feel enough of a spark with ME, ultimately (he said it was timing, which made sense to me because he was going into the last year of a PhD and very stressed.... but I just discovered he is still online, so...). Anyway, my point being... I have no idea what the hell it is. My track record makes it seem almost like a superpower, hahahaha. (there have been other fellows I felt it with, but they were in a relationship or gay... the superpower doesn't extend to picking that up). I kind of wish I had some control, because I have met wonderful guys who had everything I wanted, but I just didn't feel that spark (interestingly, when that happens, it's usually mutual). I want to add, though, it isn't just women looking for it. I have had guys just not feel that spark with me, even though I'm super nice and pretty darn cute, even when we got along, even when I'm going out on a limb and flirting. It's easy to tell when a man doesn't feel a spark with me, even when he's still nice and friendly. Maybe you're right than men will give it more time; I've been asked for a second date by a man I don't think felt a spark (I didn't either, but I was willing to give it another chance too, so....). But men will still definitely say no to an attractive, sweet, "catch" of a girl who is really into them, because they just don't feel a spark with her. I don't know how it is for everyone, but for me, if I feel a "spark", it is not easy to extinguish. My ex and I were "friends" for the first many months we knew each other, because I had no experience at all and was too shy to indicate romantic interest; he, on the other hand, doesn't even know how to flirt, as far as I know (and he had women after him ALL the time, without even wanting to date!). That man I met online I was crazy about was a bit surprised when I went as far as hugging him after our second date; after our third date, he went as far as kissing my cheek! For me, the effect of "spark" is strong enough that eventually, if he doesn't make a move, I will, and I am super, super shy about these things (this is assuming, of course, he is at least being super nice and getting to know me and isn't showing signs of not being attracted-- I've always had that much, at least). I feel "spark" is something special, I feel it very rarely and I'm not going to give up on it easily. Thus far in my life it's been the men who have! Edited February 24, 2014 by kodakgirl saying more stuff Link to post Share on other sites
OpheliaSong Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I appreciate the compliment, lol. ^^ Granted, I still make mistakes but that's attributed to either my lack of coffee or the fact that I'm still adjusting to this new keyboard. Glad I managed to make a good impression on someone. That's at least one thing I manage to do right. (Perhaps not so with women, but meh.) I don't know why I'm struggling to be honest. I think it mainly has to do with high standards (on women's end) and judgmentalism of women in today's society. Take a look at this post in the recent 'How long have you been single ?' thread by notyouraveragebabe. I didn't comment in that thread, because I have been going over this list of requirements in my head. So I'll put my thoughts on it in bold here for easy reference. 'I would say men are going to disagree with my post. I don't think I am asking for a lot. 1. Have a good job- is that really hard? Considering that most guys that age are in college ? Yes. Personally, I already have my teacher's degree atm, but some women don't seem to realise that we are still stuck in a recession AND that schools want teachers with experience. Thus trying to land a job is similar to dating, you're going to experience a lot of rejection before finding acceptance. As a side project I'm also working on a novel which I plan to have published once it's finished. Should I be scrutinized because of that for not having a 'good job' where I make 10k a day, 750K a year as CEO status ? 2. Work-out-eat healthy- take care of yourself, it's your body. I don't want my future husband to have a stroke at 50 and bed ridden at 51. Considering that I've had cancer in the past, and some days the pain feels like there are daggers are firmly planted in my flanks, it is tough to work out in my spare time when I'm not literally dying from the pain. 3. Education- Geez go to college. Do something with your life. I want a guy with goals and who is ambitious. See #1. Just because someone didn't 'finish' college or lacks a degree means they're braindead ? I was at another college (prior to teacher training college) which I didn't manage to finish because of the ridiculously high workload, where I studied as an interpreter Dutch / English / Russian. Does that mean that despite the fact that I'm well versed in Dutch, English, French, German, Italian and Russian as well as have great deal of knowledge about various different subjects that I should be considered 'uneducated / dumb, etc. ?' 4. Handsome- I don't want a guy with no teeth. I take care of my appearance. Sure I'm not the best looking guy, but I'm certainly not the worst either. 5. Sweet- buy me some flowers, tell me I'm pretty, open my door. I'm many things and this is one of them, yet despite these qualities women never even bother to give me a chance to display these. And when these are actually displayed (sometimes during a date although I tend to limit it severely) it's looked down upon. Seriously, make up your mind, women. xD 6. Car- if you have a job then you would have a car. If you're still attending college then a car isn't exactly cheap. Plus over here in Antwerp the amount of cars is so ridiculous that practically EVERY day when I do have to attend classes, it's near impossible to find a parking spot. The campus doesn't have a dedicated parking space and is literally in the middle of the city. Thus, I rely on public transportation instead. (Such as a tram or bus) This might be a good lesson for some of you guys. It's not that hard.' I'm just saying, because I don't meet all these 'requirements' or even a few of them, should I be disregarded or rejected because of my lack of personal achievements rather than relationship-minded qualities ? According to women in Western society these days, it looks to me that it's a resounding 'yes'. Yet another reason why Western society should be purged and forced to start anew. I'm not saying that her requirements are outrageous, but where's the flexibility on them ? To me, it seems that the more women establish such standards and won't even bother to slightly adjust them depending on the person they're dating (or that person's background), it's no wonder they're single and complaining they can't find any 'good men'. Just think of the VAST amount of guys who showed potential, yet were rejected despite inflexible standards ? I know I'm one of them. That is her standards....there is no doubt the job market is hard for educators right now. Are you working at something else while you look for a teaching position or have you considered moving to a rural area that might need teachers? I like employed men because it shows they are self sufficient, even if they are street sweepers. I take things situation by situation. You sound really great. There is probably some girl out there who would be very lucky to land you. Too bad you keep crossing paths but not connecting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
OpheliaSong Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Not true. I've been really sexualy nto a guy that I DIDNT feel that special "something" for. Just because I have chemistry and sexual desires for a guy doesn't mean I feel a spark. For me, a spark is more rare than pure physical attraction. My spark has to be on a mental and physical level so I can feel mental attraction but if I don't feel physical, it is no good and if I can feel physical, but no mental attraction, no good. It has to be a balance for me too. After all, our brain is our most erogenous organ and smart and witty is where I find a lot of my stimulation. I find it rather telling that guys get sparks through physical only.....beautiful women who are rude, idiotic and drama queens get a lot of guys this way and then guys complain and post on LS about their exes...no wonder. I wonder if guys are missing the point of sparks because they cant feel the sparks due to their penis getting in the way. Edited February 24, 2014 by OpheliaSong Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 My spark has to be on a mental and physical level so I can feel mental attraction but if I don't feel physical, it is no good and if I can feel physical, but no mental attraction, no good. It has to be a balance for me too. After all, our brain is our most erogenous organ and smart and witty is where I find a lot of my stimulation. I find it rather telling that guys get sparks through physical only.....beautiful women who are rude, idiotic and drama queens get a lot of guys this way and then guys complain and post on LS about their exes...no wonder. I wonder if guys are missing the point of sparks because they cant feel the sparks due to their penis getting in the way. To be fair this works the other way too. Good looking men who pretty much horrible people can have their pick of women. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 To be fair this works the other way too. Good looking men who pretty much horrible people can have their pick of women. Id agree except women dont ever admit to being that shallow Link to post Share on other sites
Tayken Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Id agree except women dont ever admit to being that shallow No surprise there..i.e no change Link to post Share on other sites
Targetlock Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 i feel the spark has to be there, unfortunately it seems I'm not very good on picking up on it and it only seems to happen for me and not the other person. Link to post Share on other sites
FrostBlaze Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I agree with the title, at least it is as such with me. I meet them, they won't even go for 2nd's if there wasn't a initial spark, rest assured i didn't feel any "spark" either with many women but i still gave them a chance. How well can u get to know someone from one date? Takes me 3 to 4 to find out more, in my case, i can get a "spark" if i just love their personality wich is not always obvious at first. ^-Has happened to me countless times, find the "spark" later on. And if i really like them as a person, i tend to overlook the physical aspect problems, not all, but i am more "forgiving"?...lack of words ^^. Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Men can create a spark and chemistry with women. If they get rid of all the fear they have inside of themselves women can feel it and see it in their eyes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Good point. There was this one woman in our Meetup that was friends with one of the members there. The person who hosted the Meetup was a single guy and her friend was trying to get her to talk to him. She said, "No, no he's not my type!" She refused two or 3 times until she finally gave in. Now...they are married, if she hadn't given him a shot, they would have never gotten married. She was so quick to dismiss him without getting to know him. I agree with the title, at least it is as such with me. I meet them, they won't even go for 2nd's if there wasn't a initial spark, rest assured i didn't feel any "spark" either with many women but i still gave them a chance. How well can u get to know someone from one date? Takes me 3 to 4 to find out more, in my case, i can get a "spark" if i just love their personality wich is not always obvious at first. ^-Has happened to me countless times, find the "spark" later on. And if i really like them as a person, i tend to overlook the physical aspect problems, not all, but i am more "forgiving"?...lack of words ^^. Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Men here seems like they would date anyone who will have them so you are probably right, they don't require a spark, just a pulse. No its just that we dont write somebody off right away because the world doesnt stop and the music plays in the background and only the two of us exist to each other whitin the first few minutes of meeting each other like some bad romantic comedy movie we relaize sometimes it takes awhile for feelings to develop and if theyres some attraction and chemsitry wel lgive it another shot at least... Then again as men we werent told unrelasitc fantasies about our parnter like women were at an early age which some women never seem to give up hope for Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think the problem with OLD is that the cart is before the horse. You're out on a date, yet don't know if there is any attraction. And if there is none on the first date, at what point is the woman leading the guy on? At what point is another date a good idea to see what develops? There are no definite answers. In a more natural setting (social activities, school, work), spark can develop after the first meeting. Two or three meetings later, a woman might find herself more and more attracted to a man. But absent non-dating interaction, how does a woman know if it is worth more dates to find out? It's awkward to be on a date when there is no romantic desire, and that may add to the challenge of giving more dates a shot. Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Then again as men we werent told unrelasitc fantasies about our parnter like women were at an early age which some women never seem to give up hope for It's not about that. It's all about what a woman is feeling when she is with a man. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 iirc, putting together some of your stories, it sounds like women are physically attracted to you (like the way you look), but want some passion from you. They are looking for the red-blooded man who will make them feel desired. You say that women offer you FWB--that's a tip off. They want to get you in bed and loosen you up. You say that women show connection, even kiss you on a date, and then lose interest. I'm thinking it is because they gave it a good shot, and didn't feel the passion in return. A younger woman boldly teases you about your age, and challenges you in a game. Clearly, she's looking for some feisty (but fun, not insulting) response. Do you think you are maybe too controlled, and too careful? There's a passionate man in there. Let him out! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
wholeneworld Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 If you were dating a girl for 6 months and one day out of the blue she said she couldnt see a future cause there wasnt enough of a spark? what does she mean? I read it that she has a relationship time frame and expected to perhaps be falling in love with me at that stage in but didnt feel it, have i read it right? Link to post Share on other sites
TouchedByViolet Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Spark is such a BS word in that context. People just use it to dodge specifics and make attraction seem more mystical. When I have been in love it has been for specific reasons. Not because I felt a static discharge. Link to post Share on other sites
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