jaguar Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I was just reading about some stuff about bad boys and stuff. I will be honest, I won't date myself if I was a woman. Hey, I am addicted to drama as well. I want the excitement too, LOL. So how do I show myself as an exciting guy to women? One woman was saying about how she is attracted to players and jerks. When asked why, she said that at least these guys are able to make her go on a rollercoaster ride of emotions. That she digs that excitement. Now how do I make them feel that? Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh dear. This is very sad 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mrin Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Man... The old good guy - bad boy dilemma. I mean there is a certain amount if truth to what she is saying. There are all sorts of advice sites about games you can play and I guess to a certain extent we all do that whether it is deliberate or not. I guess my advice to you if you want to stay on the good guy side of the line is probably learn how to seduce and convey passion. Passion in and off itself is a drug and it is neither the domain of the good guy or the bad boy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author jaguar Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 How do I convey passion? Link to post Share on other sites
Mrin Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well there is a ton of stuff written on this but I'll just speak for me. I am a good guy. I first try to establish an emotional connection. People love taking about themselves - even women. I try to create a sense of candor and ask lots of questions. Not like "do you believe in God?" Or "what are your thoughts on kids". Rather I ask them about their lives, their experiences. It doesn't have to be big. Did you go to camp? What was the best sunset you ever saw? And then ask follow up questions. This isn't an inquisition but rather you really wanting to know more about her. Having someone take a genuine interest in you is incredibly flattering. In time you will pull her out of her shell and she will begin to ask about you. If you've established that connection then your answers will be authentic. And we all crave authenticity. At that point you can start stoking the passion fire. She will be more in tune with your feelings. This is a dance. But in general I live in a reckless manner at this stage. If you've already established a connection then you have trust and so you can engage in some witty banter and innuendo without it being off putting. Take the relationship physical and learn to kiss like a rock star. A woman's brain is her largest erogenous zone. Then as you progress towards initmacy tell her how you feel about her. Is she is beautiful, tell her that. Make it about her or about the two of you. Don't make it about you. I could ramble on and on but in short, there is little more intoxicating than intense appreciation from someone you trust and respect. The rollercoaster is the feelings you inspire inside of her and how she misses that when you are not together. It is a fine line and a delicate dance. Also, when a relationship does go intimate, it always helps if you are an amazing lover. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Assasda Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I was just reading about some stuff about bad boys and stuff. I will be honest, I won't date myself if I was a woman. Hey, I am addicted to drama as well. I want the excitement too, LOL. So how do I show myself as an exciting guy to women? One woman was saying about how she is attracted to players and jerks. When asked why, she said that at least these guys are able to make her go on a rollercoaster ride of emotions. That she digs that excitement. Now how do I make them feel that? You you make them feel that youre exciting is you be exciting. And how you be exciting is by doing THINGS, just things in general. -Take a trip, read a book. learn something new, take a class, travel. Do something spiritual, make new friends. +All of these are interesting, and exciting to women. Be attractive yourself, and you'll just exude it basically. Link to post Share on other sites
Frank2thepoint Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I was just reading about some stuff about bad boys and stuff. I will be honest, I won't date myself if I was a woman. Hey, I am addicted to drama as well. I want the excitement too, LOL. So how do I show myself as an exciting guy to women? One woman was saying about how she is attracted to players and jerks. When asked why, she said that at least these guys are able to make her go on a rollercoaster ride of emotions. That she digs that excitement. Now how do I make them feel that? No, just don't. Do not lower yourself to a "badboy" so you can scrape the bottom-of-the-barrel quality girls, only to make them excited and get your kicks for drama. If you want drama, watch a play or a movie. Well there is a ton of stuff written on this but I'll just speak for me. I am a good guy. I first try to establish an emotional connection. People love taking about themselves - even women. I try to create a sense of candor and ask lots of questions. Not like "do you believe in God?" Or "what are your thoughts on kids". Rather I ask them about their lives, their experiences. It doesn't have to be big. Did you go to camp? What was the best sunset you ever saw? And then ask follow up questions. This isn't an inquisition but rather you really wanting to know more about her. Having someone take a genuine interest in you is incredibly flattering. In time you will pull her out of her shell and she will begin to ask about you. If you've established that connection then your answers will be authentic. And we all crave authenticity. At that point you can start stoking the passion fire. She will be more in tune with your feelings. This is a dance. But in general I live in a reckless manner at this stage. If you've already established a connection then you have trust and so you can engage in some witty banter and innuendo without it being off putting. Take the relationship physical and learn to kiss like a rock star. A woman's brain is her largest erogenous zone. Then as you progress towards initmacy tell her how you feel about her. Is she is beautiful, tell her that. Make it about her or about the two of you. Don't make it about you. I could ramble on and on but in short, there is little more intoxicating than intense appreciation from someone you trust and respect. The rollercoaster is the feelings you inspire inside of her and how she misses that when you are not together. It is a fine line and a delicate dance. Also, when a relationship does go intimate, it always helps if you are an amazing lover. This is actually a normal way a quality guy gets a quality girl. Just talk to the girl, show genuine interest, banter, flirting, and don't be afraid to push her buttons. You can also relate stories if she mentions something that you had a similar experience with, which builds rapport. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KathyM Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 No, just don't. Do not lower yourself to a "badboy" so you can scrape the bottom-of-the-barrel quality girls, only to make them excited and get your kicks for drama. If you want drama, watch a play or a movie. Exactly. Women with high self esteem and a lot going for them do not put up with being treated like crap from some guy. Plenty easy to find someone else who will treat them well. If you act like an *ss, you will attract women who are the same way themselves, or women who feel they don't deserve to be treated any better (women who have come from abusive families or have low self esteem). Link to post Share on other sites
OneMess Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Well there is a ton of stuff written on this but I'll just speak for me. I am a good guy. I first try to establish an emotional connection. People love taking about themselves - even women. I try to create a sense of candor and ask lots of questions. Not like "do you believe in God?" Or "what are your thoughts on kids". Rather I ask them about their lives, their experiences. It doesn't have to be big. Did you go to camp? What was the best sunset you ever saw? And then ask follow up questions. This isn't an inquisition but rather you really wanting to know more about her. Having someone take a genuine interest in you is incredibly flattering. In time you will pull her out of her shell and she will begin to ask about you. If you've established that connection then your answers will be authentic. And we all crave authenticity. At that point you can start stoking the passion fire. She will be more in tune with your feelings. This is a dance. But in general I live in a reckless manner at this stage. If you've already established a connection then you have trust and so you can engage in some witty banter and innuendo without it being off putting. Take the relationship physical and learn to kiss like a rock star. A woman's brain is her largest erogenous zone. Then as you progress towards initmacy tell her how you feel about her. Is she is beautiful, tell her that. Make it about her or about the two of you. Don't make it about you. I could ramble on and on but in short, there is little more intoxicating than intense appreciation from someone you trust and respect. The rollercoaster is the feelings you inspire inside of her and how she misses that when you are not together. It is a fine line and a delicate dance. Also, when a relationship does go intimate, it always helps if you are an amazing lover. I had to register just to say "marry me" to this. I had planned on just being a lurker, but alas, here I am. Great advice. Link to post Share on other sites
Targetlock Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 don't need any more bad boys, giving the rest of us good guys a bad reputation. its easy to be jerk and we have more than enough of those. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Why would you even want a such a woman? There are women who are not drama addicts. Link to post Share on other sites
Legatus Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 don't need any more bad boys, giving the rest of us good guys a bad reputation. its easy to be jerk and we have more than enough of those. Exactly. Being a bad boy is easy. You don't care about anything, you do whatever you like. Being one of the good guys is difficult. You have everything to lose but everything to gain. Just stick to your believes. Even if you hear something like "you're too nice", don't give up. I think every guy had, at least once, that dilemma "should I start behaving like an idiot as it seems to work". Well you can but if it's not real you - you are just selling yourself cheap. It's even sweeter when you make a lot of effort, be yourself and you happen to find a girl who appreciates all of it and connects at the same level. Patience 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Smilecharmer Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Be a great guy with lots of interests. To be interesting you have to have interests, the roller coaster stuff only works initially. It isn't long term fulfillment. It usually only works with doormats and broken sparrows. Link to post Share on other sites
AdrianCrawley Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 ... Now how do I make them feel that? I could lie to you and shove some PUA BS down your throat. But I won't. The truth is... you can't. Your best bet is to ignore them. At some point you will meet someone ambitious enough to make you stop ignoring her. That is, if she sees you often enough (a colleague, a neighbor, something la that). Link to post Share on other sites
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