2sunny Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field." (Matthew 13:44 NIV) What is your treasure? What do you talk about the majority of the day? I'm a DOER!!! I tend to help the less fortunate. Action. Words are useless without the action behind the words. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
endlessabyss Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 People still believe Jesus didn't exist? lol mind = blown Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People still believe Jesus didn't exist? lol mind = blown I'm sure it's in here somewhere 4 Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People still believe Jesus didn't exist? lol mind = blown Oh, I believe he existed. But I don't believe he was anything other than an elaborate public relations campaign. But supernal? Nah... Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) I'm a DOER!!! I tend to help the less fortunate. Action. Words are useless without the action behind the words. Good advice. So? Doesn't change the sentiment or import of my query. It does, actually. I'm sure it's in here somewhere "Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence!!!"..........."Jesus never existed." Honestly though, I am celebrating the day that this freedom was finally granted in Oregon, and the topic here is Today is the Day! A wonderful wedding we had, blessed by God I am sure! As I'm sure you're aware, that wasn't the subject of the thread at all. So often, the S&R Forum is filled with threads that go off-topic. And usually it's pretty interesting. In the case of this thread though, I am saddened that the discussion is veering off into directions other than its original intent. I was really loving this thread for the purpose it was originally designed for -- to try and reach out to those who may feel called to accept God's love into their lives. Not for any sort of debate about how factual it for the regular naysayers, to add political debate or any other divergent topic. Edited May 22, 2014 by pie2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Good point, lets get back on topic. I was thinking today about how God's longsuffering and patience has been interpreted as him not existing, caring, or fixing evil. We should each remember that we are lucky as all heck that God is somewhat silent right now. He is holy and this means we wouldn't WANT him to act right now in our current state because, as Scripture says, who can withstand his judgement? Today is the day to repent and get ready. Edited May 22, 2014 by M30USA 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Today is the day to repent and get ready. I was thinking today about how God's longsuffering and patience has been interpreted as him not existing, caring, or fixing evil. We should each remember that we are lucky as all heck that God is somewhat silent right now. He is holy and this means we wouldn't WANT him to act right now in our current state because, as Scripture says, who can withstand his judgement? So true, M30. We're always asking for a sign, some sort of proof of God's existence. But we all know how important it is to be careful for what you wish for. That sign that so many of us "need" in order to believe, might just be our undoing. I mean, I could demand to "see God". But what if God granted that wish and came down, face-to-face? Well, I may very well die from that sort of exposure to something so powerful! So, God's restraint is a total blessing. Edited May 22, 2014 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) So true, M30. We're always asking for a sign, some sort of proof of God's existence. But we all know how important it is to be careful for what you wish for. That sign that so many of us "need" in order to believe, might just be our undoing. I mean, I could demand to "see God". But what if God granted that wish and came down, face-to-face? Well, I may very well die from that sort of exposure to something so powerful! So, God's restraint is a total blessing. According to Scripture, people shake in terror when they see a glorified angel. And we think we can handle God? Even Abraham, who didn't see God but was in his presence, was overcome by a feeling of "dread". We will NOT be ready to meet God until our hearts and bodies have been remade by god, himself, which hasn't happened yet. Edited May 22, 2014 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 According to Scripture, people shake in terror when they see a glorified angel. And we think we can handle God? Even Abraham, who didn't see God but was in his presence, was overcome by a feeling of "dread". We will NOT be ready to meet God until our hearts and bodies have been remade by god, himself, which hasn't happened yet. I can barely handle exposure to the mildest of elements: sun, wind, rain etc. I'm completely defenseless in the face of moderate "elements": a strong ocean tide, a tornado, lightening, etc. How could I ever think I would be ready to meet the creator of the universe?! I'm NOT. But that's why Jesus came to intercede for us. To be a barrier for us weaklings. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 In my everyday life I experience my understanding of God many times thorough out my day. The evidence is real if you have the capacity to process clearly what happens in a days time. Being fearful is contrary to believing. There isn't anything to fear! A loving God would want you afraid? No way. Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 In my everyday life I experience my understanding of God many times thorough out my day. The evidence is real if you have the capacity to process clearly what happens in a days time. Being fearful is contrary to believing. There isn't anything to fear! Who is God to you? How do you filter what is from him versus what is not? Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Who is God to you? How do you filter what is from him versus what is not? God everything and everywhere. God is especially love... Seen clearly with an open heart. Willing to give and be tolerant and compassionate. Everything and everywhere. In some cases Gods beauty is blocked (like a murderer or an addict). The childlike spirit shows God in a true form. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 God everything and everywhere. God is especially love... Seen clearly with an open heart. Willing to give and be tolerant and compassionate. Everything and everywhere. In some cases Gods beauty is blocked (like a murderer or an addict). The childlike spirit shows God in a true form. So you seem to follow a New Age mysticism. How does your belief line up with Jesus' statements that Satan is the prince and ruler of this current world where the truth has been veiled from our eyes? Link to post Share on other sites
beach Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 So you seem to follow a New Age mysticism. How does your belief line up with Jesus' statements that Satan is the prince and ruler of this current world where the truth has been veiled from our eyes? It's not mysticism. Why do you feel the need to label everything? That's a control issue that you need to categorize everyone. Are you Jewish? Do you realize Jesus was Jewish? How do you feel about that? Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) It's not mysticism. Why do you feel the need to label everything? That's a control issue that you need to categorize everyone. Categories (and language in general) exists to give people reference points in communication. You have to start somewhere. You can always clarify and deviate later with continued communication. Are you Jewish? Do you realize Jesus was Jewish? How do you feel about that? So was Paul, author of nearly half the New Testament. And Jesus upheld every law and prophecy of the Jews. Edited May 22, 2014 by M30USA Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 For me, I don't categorize my belief. I think it would only confine the greatness and possibilities of what is. To confine a belief to a box, per se. My mind is wide and open. Link to post Share on other sites
beach Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Categories (and language in general) exists to give people reference points in communication. You have to start somewhere. You can always clarify and deviate later with continued communication. So was Paul, author of nearly half the New Testament. And Jesus upheld every law and prophecy of the Jews. Since you like the labels what label do you live by? Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Isaiah 5:20 Who says there is darkness and evil in embracing love? i say peadophilia has similar beliefs about embracing love and darkness....deb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Since you like the labels what label do you live by? The Truth Avenger, West Coast Link to post Share on other sites
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