Author Tressugar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) The baby has been placed with family members. They allow her to "see" the baby with proper supervision. The father is allegedly abusive and unstable. I understand alcoholics are liars. However, she told me that she's sober now and weaned herself off of her antipsychotic drugs. Edited May 17, 2014 by Tressugar 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gaius Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I don't think you're even supposed to drink while taking a lot of anti-psychotics. That adds another layer of irresponsibility on top of an already enormous pile. If the eugenics boards were still around they would be off to tie her tubes as we speak. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 she told me that she's sober now and weaned herself off of her antipsychotic drugs. Dumb move. You don't just wean yourself off antipsychotic drugs. She was prescribed them for a reason. If she feels that she needs to come off or alter her meds, she needs to speak with her doctor first. This is dangerous. I assume she has some mental health issues. Her medication should help to keep her stable. Coming off meds like this without medical supervision is risky, and can completely throw people off - all sorts of nasty things can happen when coming off a med. I am glad the baby is not in her care at the moment. Tell your friend to speak to her doctor before messing with her meds. If the authorities find out she isn't complying with her medication regime, it won't look good for her in terms of regaining custody of her child. I really feel for children that are born to parents that can't even look after themselves...sad story. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Silly_Girl Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 These are my own thoughts in what I told her about her situation. You have to keep your body healthy especially if you are nursing a newborn baby. The body must be free of ANY toxins including alcohol. Now if she wanted to drink and she's NOT nursing, that's fine! She can knock herself out!!! Don't be daft! She can't care for a baby if she's blind drunk. She could fall asleep in the baby, drop him/her, forget baby is there, mess up the feed... All manner of things. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Tressugar Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 In a perfect world I would love for her not to drink, but in her case she feels she needs alcohol. It's a craving she has. So the next best case scenario would be for her to get p*ss drunk, while someone else is watching the baby, and not breast feed the bugger. Heaven help us all, she trying to have another baby! Makes me wonder what is in her own thought process that makes her think all of this is okay behavior. Link to post Share on other sites
DaisyLeigh1967 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 This post is about nursing a baby while the mother is under the influence. What she did in the past is irrelevant. I'm just focusing on if the mother's rights were violated. She believes can drink while nursing as long as the baby is doing ok. She should not do it. Alcohol can harm the baby. If she is so bent on being a drunk, then she should bottle feed the baby. As far as her rights are concerned, what about the rights of the baby? If she is being hospitalized for alcohol related dehydration and all of that, then I say they have the right to protect the baby from someone who doesn't care enough to stay sober so she can care for that baby properly. Someone drinking as much as you imply, is not, at least in my opinion, fit to care for a helpless baby. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Makes me wonder what is in her own thought process that makes her think all of this is okay behavior. Nothing is in her thought process other than having another drink, she is a full blown alcoholic and can't stop drinking, she needs intervention.. legal or otherwise and needs to be detoxed, she also needs counseling and or the AA 12 step based program. At this point there isn't much you can do, CFS is involved and will most likely not replace her child back in her care unless she seeks help and stays sober. Maybe losing her child will be her bottom.. hopefully her enabling parents/friends SO etc will let her reach her bottom rather than propping her up, if they prop her up her sobriety will fail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Omei Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The responsible way to drink with a baby would be to pump bottles prior to drinking Anything else is irresponsible and sends a poor message to other breast feeding women, you should care enough for your baby to be able to make this choice and its not even a hard choice pregnant don't drink breast feeding dont drink unless you make an alternative. To not make this so obvious choice for your child's health would worry me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jbelle6 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Don't be daft! She can't care for a baby if she's blind drunk. She could fall asleep in the baby, drop him/her, forget baby is there, mess up the feed... All manner of things. I was wondering why no one else was bringing this up. I was so tired when my son first came home I got paranoid I'd fall asleep on the couch with him and crush him so I'd always make sure I had something safe to put him in beside me. I doubt this lady is thinking of that. Drunk to the point of poisoning and dehydration and looking after an infant. And I know so many people that can't have children and would take care of and love a little baby like that. And she wants another one??? Uggg, fetal alcohol is worse when they drink the first trimester, and she's right pickled. I think your friend honestly needs real help. OP don't give this fool tips on how to avoid detection anymore. Let her keep going to the same hospital. She can rot out her kidneys and liver if she wants, but it's not just her anymore. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
juicygirl Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Hate to be the one to say it,but I hope social services step in and take the baby,at least until she cleans herself up, as this is not safe for the baby. Your friend is not right in the head. Why is she drinking so much that she's ending up in the hospital? And where is the baby when she's getting blind drunk? Is she off partying or is she getting drunk at home in the afternoon whilst the baby is present? If she is off partying hard, where's the baby?Does she go to the hospital with the baby? And where is the father? Sounds like she's crying out for help by going to the hospital because she knows what the staff will do,otherwise why would she check herself in 6 times? Her baby is at risk of being taken away because she can't take care of it, her solution is to her problems is to have another baby! If she loses the first one and she does get pregnant, social services will take the second one right after the birth. I thought I was going to read that your friend was having the odd glass of wine with dinner and people were criticising her because she's breastfeeding ,but this girl is an alcoholic, she needs to stop breast feeding and focus on getting sober. I feel for her child. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
pteromom Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 She believes she can manage her drinking and nursing at the same time. She is wrong. She's a recovering alcoholic who began to drink again while being pregnant. She faults the government for everything happening to her. The government isn't picking up a bottle and force-feeding it to her. She needs to put her baby's best interest first. If she is incapable of doing that, the baby needs to be placed with someone who can. If she truly believes the government is targeting drinking mothers, then she needs to STOP DRINKING. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
pteromom Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 In a perfect world I would love for her not to drink, but in her case she feels she needs alcohol. It's a craving she has. Then being a parent is not the best choice for her. Heaven help us all, she trying to have another baby! Oh this makes me sad. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 @Carhill Idk just going on what she is reporting to me. They did get her on neglect and child endangerment. Her baby was found with alcohol and anti psychotic drugs in the baby's system. Is this a friend of yours? She needs help. Medically and mentally! I hope she is able to get sober so she can be a great mom to her baby. Right now her choices are messed up and if she doesn't get her shi.t together, that poor baby will be placed in a foster home soon enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm curious to know what are your thoughts on a mother who recently gives birth and who nurses her baby while drinking alcohol. Is it wrong? Is it right for the authorities to take the baby away? Or at least give the mother several chances to get help to become sober? The mother believes the authorities are over reacting and unfairly attacking her. The authorities made it their business when the mother repeatedly checked herself into the hospital due alcohol blood poisoning. She believes the government has her in a conspiracy. Could she be right? She has proof the government targets new mothers in attempt to take their kids away from them. If this is happening in the UK, then yes ... CPS has a history there of taking kids because of Blair's target quota's on adoption that need to be met [an infant is easier to adopt than an older child]. If not, probably the gov probably goes after her because they believe she is a threat to the child. I don't know how much alcohol can go into breast milk, but i do know that : - women need less alcohol to get drunk, because of lower body mass - women process alcohol faster and easier than men do - a drunk mom could put her child's life in danger Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 She believes she can manage her drinking and nursing at the same time. She's a recovering alcoholic who began to drink again while being pregnant. She faults the government for everything happening to her. First of all, Massachussets is not in the list of my favorite states. They have in the past shown to be complete pri*ks when it came to the rights of the fathers/men, but i won't go into that. I mentioned the above so you understand why i would say, if she drank during her pregnancy, she does not deserve to be a mother. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 This post is about nursing a baby while the mother is under the influence. What she did in the past is irrelevant. I'm just focusing on if the mother's rights were violated. She believes can drink while nursing as long as the baby is doing ok. Not in this case. Parents like her fail to understand it's not 'her' baby. It's the baby of the society, the future of the common ppl around her. So when the society deems a parent unfit to continue safeguarding a child, they remove said child from her. What she deems or what she did in the past is important, because it has an impact on her future as a caregiver to this child. Again, this child was never hers or belonged to her. It was 'entrusted' to her. It's not her asset. That's the difference in mentality between what she thinks and what she should think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 These are my own thoughts in what I told her about her situation. You have to keep your body healthy especially if you are nursing a newborn baby. The body must be free of ANY toxins including alcohol. Now if she wanted to drink and she's NOT nursing, that's fine! She can knock herself out!!! I told her I believe she has a problem because she keeps checking herself into the hospital for alcohol dehydration. You can't become dehydrated after one or two glasses of wine. I told her that she is in denial and stupid to believe she's dehydrated because she's nursing and not drinking enough water. I believe that SHE is the one who got the authorities involved by going to the same hospital multiple times within two week time period for the same complaint. She got herself flag by the hospital authorities. Next time If she feels like she has a drink while nursing If she becomes dehydrated go to different hospitals in the area not the same one to avoid detection from the hospital authorities. Hospital staff are trained to look for patterns in a patient. I believe the authorities don't look to take children from their families unless there is a justifiable cause. She is hoping to have her custody rights restored as soon as she can prove herself to be a responsible parent. Very good advice ! When in the future she endangers her kid's life again, it's good to know how to not show up on the radar, and have her child's right to a good life protected. Are you fuc*ing kidding me ???? Link to post Share on other sites
Radu Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 In a perfect world I would love for her not to drink, but in her case she feels she needs alcohol. It's a craving she has. So the next best case scenario would be for her to get p*ss drunk, while someone else is watching the baby, and not breast feed the bugger. Heaven help us all, she trying to have another baby! Makes me wonder what is in her own thought process that makes her think all of this is okay behavior. In a perfect world, she would be tied to a table and about to have her tubes tied / have a hysterectomy. Link to post Share on other sites
atlg8r Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 This post is about nursing a baby while the mother is under the influence. What she did in the past is irrelevant. I'm just focusing on if the mother's rights were violated. She believes can drink while nursing as long as the baby is doing ok. I am the last person to say "no you can never drink". But, everything scientific that I've read suggests that IF you are going to drink at all while nursing, you should not nurse within 8 hours to allow the alcohol time to clear your bloodstream. Ideally, if you were going to go out to dinner and have a drink or two, you would pump first and then not nurse until the following day (8 hours later). You cannot drink regularly and nurse your baby. It will get into your baby's blood and can cause liver damage or developmental problems. As far as I know, her rights have not been violated. In fact, if she has been in the hospital even ONE time because of BAC 3 times the legal limit, then she has a problem and is probably an unfit mother. She needs to get help and if she cannot be a responsible parent, then give up custody of the child to someone who will be responsible. Just telling you "the baby is ok" is garbage. A drunk wouldn't know if the baby is okay or not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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