hotpotato Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No it doesn't! A couple of outliers do not make it untrue. The only cases where being nice and cute isn't enough is when the woman wants a highly desirable man and is competing with other women. Even then, the women who have "struggled" with men, have had more relationships than the guys who have struggled. I don't know of any woman that hit 30 without ever getting a boyfriend. Why do you say that? Every day I see hundreds of women that I consider to be generally attractive and it's extremely hard to find one who would have sex with me. The same goes for the average man. Men just aren't as picky as women think we are. If women were as relaxed in their requirements as men are, these threads filled with men complaining simply wouldn't exist. Well then get a hooker with big boobs and blonde hair and be done with it. Sexual problems solved. Much of what ypu said has already been addressed in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Well then get a hooker with big boobs and blonde hair and be done with it. Sexual problems solved. Much of what ypu said has already been addressed in this thread. I've already stated that paying for sex doesn't count. And even it did, do you have any idea how expensive that would be? A decent hooker costs $300 an hour. If I wanted to have sex with her just three days a week, that would cost me $900 a week. Monthly that would be $3,600. I simply don't have that kind of money. Of course having a girlfriend does so much more for me than just sex. Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I've already stated that paying for sex doesn't count. And even it did, do you have any idea how expensive that would be? A decent hooker costs $300 an hour. If I wanted to have sex with her just three days a week, that would cost me $900 a week. Monthly that would be $3,600. I simply don't have that kind of money. Of course having a girlfriend does so much more for me than just sex. Btw price varies depending on where you are and who you are seeing. Why doesnt it coilunt? Because you paid or because she didnt pick you? Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 This isn't the prostitution thread. Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 This isn't the prostitution thread. Ok. Well, I offered a solution and you didnt want. Its available, its just not the kind you want. Everyone has some kind of standard. Seriously, how many women or men are dating someone just because they are nice and cute? Just being nice and cute doesnt work for anyone in the dating game. Link to post Share on other sites
Smarty Pants Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 people will argue that nobody is entitled or owed anything in life, but the reality feels that women are the only sex that are entitled and owed dating and relationships since they don't have to be assertive and be comfortable and content, secure with themselves Please stop with the stereotypes. Instead of worrying about these crazy generalizations you have, why don't you do some research on what attracts women. Find characteristics that are in common with you own. Then try and meet some women. You are wasting your time arguing with strangers on this message board. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No it doesn't! A couple of outliers do not make it untrue. The only cases where being nice and cute isn't enough is when the woman wants a highly desirable man and is competing with other women. Even then, the women who have "struggled" with men, have had more relationships than the guys who have struggled. I don't know of any woman that hit 30 without ever getting a boyfriend. Yes you do: ME! Why do you say that? Every day I see hundreds of women that I consider to be generally attractive and it's extremely hard to find one who would have sex with me. The same goes for the average man. Men just aren't as picky as women think we are. If women were as relaxed in their requirements as men are, these threads filled with men complaining simply wouldn't exist. If you thought about more than having sex with them, maybe you would have more luck. And if women relaxed their requirements, this place would crash from the traffic. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Paying for sex doesn't count. It's much harder for men to have sex with women they actually want. It's also harder for men to go on dates with women they are attracted to. I just really don't think women have any trouble in getting dates from guys they are attracted to. They have a big advantage. Right. That's why I'm sitting here debating this, rather than getting ready to go out with someone, and my calendar is full with new prospects. (I'm actually getting ready to clean the kitchen, do laundry, etc.) Link to post Share on other sites
Targetlock Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 well what about if the guy isn't attracted to them? attraction has to go both ways. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 If you thought about more than having sex with them, maybe you would have more luck. And if women relaxed their requirements, this place would crash from the traffic. Do I really come across as a guy who just wants sex? Right. That's why I'm sitting here debating this, rather than getting ready to go out with someone, and my calendar is full with new prospects. (I'm actually getting ready to clean the kitchen, do laundry, etc.) When was the last time you tried to meet men? Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Why are men supposed to embrace their masculinity and love being manly? Well, you can try to embrace your femininity and love being womanly but it probably wouldn't get you very far. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Why are men supposed to embrace their masculinity and love being manly? Thousands of years of human biology? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Why are men supposed to embrace their masculinity and love being manly? Most women find it attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
TouchedByViolet Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Every halfway decent girl I have ever dated has had more options than me. Most would get hit on at work, at the gym, school, etc.(essentially wherever guys were) Some would even get hit on when I was there! IME, women have tons of options. They just need to make mature choices in the men they decide to date and not pick the trash guys. A very small minority of decent ladies struggle in finding a bf. Most women who claim to struggle in finding a decent guy couldn't pick a good guy if he fell in their lap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ya what I hate is how men have to be tough and strong, confident in order to attract women, pisses me off If you could become tough, strong, and confident you probably wouldn't be pissed off. You would probably be happier and attracting women. It also helps with life in general. So why wouldn't you want to develope those traits? Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Cute and nice will get a boyfriend, but it might not keep him. . Or much of the time it will no get a woman in the door. There is more to attraction than being cute and nice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Probably just more angry and bitter on how I wasn't raised or brought up right to be like this earlier I wasn't always the way I am now. I used to be very insecure and couldn't attract any women. It took a lot of work, but I changed. You can too. Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I am 6'3 200 pounds average looks, social, have plenty of friends and i am educated. I went online and made an account on plenty of fish and in 2 weeks did not receive one msg from girl. I sent 100's of msgs to girls a day and only received 2-3 replies out of the ones i sent and all of them ended up with nothing. Usually i would be writing asking questions and the girl would reply with few words answering the question but never asking me about anything. Anyway i got tired of it and canceled my account but not until i went on my fb and found a average (maybe a bit below average) looking girl and made a fake profile on POF. (I know this is kinda wrong but i really really wanted to do this experiment) Let me tell you within an hour i had 100+ msgs from different guys. In 2-3 days i had over 1000 msgs. I closed the account after that. Now i know many of you will say well it was probably from guys that were not quality guys or not good looking guys. I would say many of the guys were average looking guys and some were even very good looking. So if you really cant find 10-20 potential guys out of the 1000 that send you msg there is something wrong with your standards. Is there any reason a girl should say that shes having trouble finding a bf or dates? Finding dates is easy. Finding a relationship is hard. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Glinda.Good Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Finding dates is easy. Finding a relationship is hard. I think we've been trying to say this for all 34 pages … It seems simple enough to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Both are difficult for men. A good portion of the men that I know can't get any dates. Most men that I know in the US just settle for one of the few women that are interested in them. In fact, one of my friends just got engaged to his first girlfriend at 27. They have been dating for about 6 months. He's a short, bald, quiet, not-so-great looking indian guy. He confided in me that he doesn't think he can get another girl if he breaks up with this one. This average guy has just a few more options than this guy. If this were true, there would be no single women in the US at all over the age of 30 unless they're single by choice. So..yeah..this is all nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Well the reality is that social awkwardness hurts guys more than girls, those that disagree with that are delusional I very much disagree. Most guys have "confidence" at the top of their most attractive traits list. Pretty much all "forever single" women that I know are shy or socially awkward. Yet confident and below average-average women have no problems landing a guy. It's all about the confidence in both sexes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 If this were true, there would be no single women in the US at all over the age of 30 unless they're single by choice. So..yeah..this is all nonsense. Those women are single by choice. Or, they aren't actually trying to find anybody. Or, they are extremely picky and can't find a man who meets their requirements. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I very much disagree. Most guys have "confidence" at the top of their most attractive traits list. Pretty much all "forever single" women that I know are shy or socially awkward. Yet confident and below average-average women have no problems landing a guy. It's all about the confidence in both sexes. For a woman, confidence does not have any relationship with shyness and awkwardness. As long as a woman is able to put herself in situations where there are age appropriate men and she can be friendly when spoken to and hold a conversation; she'd do fine. That's something any woman can do regardless of how much confidence she has. The forever alone women probably come across as not interested or maybe even rude to every guy who talks to them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 For a woman, confidence does not have any relationship with shyness and awkwardness. As long as a woman is able to put herself in situations where there are age appropriate men and she can be friendly when spoken to and hold a conversation; she'd do fine. That's something any woman can do regardless of how much confidence she has. The forever alone women probably come across as not interested or maybe even rude to every guy who talks to them. If it bothers you that women try to tell you what your situation is like, why do it to other people? How do you know that's what happens with these women? Have you ever been a woman that couldn't find a boyfriend? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Imajerk17 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Those women are single by choice. Or, they aren't actually trying to find anybody. Or, they are extremely picky and can't find a man who meets their requirements. Well, aren't most single people, "single by choice"? You, as much as you say you want to be in a relationship, turned down women who were into you because, as wonderful as they may be as people, you weren't physically attracted to them. That's perfectly fine. But why is it when a woman has her preferences she is "extremely picky"? Link to post Share on other sites
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