Boredom and religion

[bostonterrier]

I'm not depressed, just bored with life do you think going to churh will help?

[todreaminblue]

I'm not depressed, just bored with life do you think going to churh will help?

 

no you will be more bored

 

 

you need to want to be there from your heart and you actually cant sit in church apathetic you have to be passionate...its affronting to god to be apathetic.......

 

 

theres a verse ill find....i woudl suggest go to church and if you feel apathy dotn go back if it hits yoru heart.....welcome to the born again through christs love......you have a new life...through baptism and the gift fo the holy ghost..that spirit is anything but apathetic and will fire up your heart in many ways......i am a momon..............deb

Edited June 15, 2014 by todreaminblue

[todreaminblue]

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

revelation 3 16

 

 

apathy equals god being upset enough to vomit you back out of church...god is a passionate all loving being so shall we be......and i am a mormon not a momon...lol...ahem.......cheers

Edited June 15, 2014 by todreaminblue

[umirano]

Hardly. Religion offers no deeper truth, nothing interesting. It's just intricate stories, portrayed as holding a deeper knowledge of man or the universe to draw in unsuspecting people.

 

It's the first and lamest and most imprecise useless attempt at science. If you want to learn about the universe I suggest going to a library and looking at biology or physics text books. If you're not into reading so much, check out youtube or MIT open online video lectures.

[EvelyneConnor]

Umirano, religion and science are two completely different approaches to a similar set of questions - that is, the mystery of existence and All That Is. Both have their answers, both are interesting. Religion speaks in a different way than science, and neither - I think - have fully unraveled the mysteries they set out to solve and explain. So there. I think spirituality and a study of religious thought can be interesting, yes, but church - probably not so much. Especially if you're going because you're bored. On the other hand, church can be a great place to socialize and meet interesting people. So there's that.

[umirano]

Umirano, religion and science are two completely different approaches to a similar set of questions - that is, the mystery of existence and All That Is.

One is successful at answering these questions and lead to unparalleled improvements in our lives, the other is dividing humanity into different moral communities, hindering progress and making people feel bad about themselves for having a sexuality that doesn't conform with stone age patriarch teachings.

 

Both have their answers, both are interesting.

Religion's answers is a bunch of logical fallacies with cheap appeals to emotion, in a sadly successful attempt to get people to cave in to a repressive, dull and ignorant system of beliefs with a very questionable morality. The modern approach to these questions is in fact interesting, because the answers are more complex and surprising and beautiful than we ever expected and they're more interesting than any work of fiction ever could be. The tool of the modern way of answering these questions is science, that is to observe and come up with testable claims about the ways in which our universe works. Science is not a system of belief, it's not an established body of knowledge. It's a way of investigating our surroundings and increasing our understanding of the world we live in.

 

Religion is a truth claim, not allowing for deepening of our understanding, especially not if our findings contradict what the religion claims in the first place.

 

Religion speaks in a different way than science,

I totally agree with that. Religion offers emotional stories, seemingly witty analogies and moral directives that seem to echo very well with many people's need for guidance. Yet, it's a huge leap of faith in the first place. Worse actually, being a believer pretty much requires you to actively toss out your critical thinking abilities on very fundamental questions and assertions.

Science OTOH requires a braveness when asking questions and a thoroughness when working towards an answer. The realist/skeptic approach encourages to admit to not having a final truth, it encourages doubt and this is probably the most important: It encourages to be critical towards one's own convictions. It is much easier to justify violence against other humans or nature when relying on a "final" truth than when you are able to remove emotion from the conflict and look at the facts.

 

and neither - I think - have fully unraveled the mysteries they set out to solve and explain.

Yup, while science is providing us with new beautiful insight every day, religion is being pushed back further and further. Very few still rely on biblical medical practices, most people get treated and heal through what modern scientific research provides us with. Greek mythology no longer explains catastrophes and weather patterns. Stars are huge bodies of compressed gas and not contours of mythical beings. The sun is one of 200 Bn stars in a rather insignificant galaxy among many thousand other galaxies. And the earth is the 3rd planet in line in this solar system, and not the center of the universe.

 

So there. I think spirituality and a study of religious thought can be interesting, yes, but church - probably not so much. Especially if you're going because you're bored.

Sure religion is interesting. From a POV of social/philosophical history. It doesn't contribute to our understanding of the world or the furthering of love and well being among humans though.

 

On the other hand, church can be a great place to socialize and meet interesting people. So there's that.

So are football clubs, art camps, pool nights or scientific conferences.