Why does god neglect the starving kids in Africa?

[TylerDurdenn]

Please tell me?

[M30USA]

Please tell me?

 

If God has put a concern in your heart for starving children in Africa, maybe that's his way of providing an avenue for them to be taken care of--in which case, if you don't, the neglect falls on you and not him.

[TylerDurdenn]

If God has put a concern in your heart for starving children in Africa, maybe that's his way of providing an avenue for them to be taken care of--in which case, if you don't, the neglect falls on you and not him.

 

Didn't answer my question.

[Madman81]

If God has put a concern in your heart for starving children in Africa, maybe that's his way of providing an avenue for them to be taken care of--in which case, if you don't, the neglect falls on you and not him.

There's a great limit to what one person can do. TD could sell all his possessions and use all his money to buy food for starving kids in Africa, talk himself hoarse trying to get others to do the same, petition his government that's far more interested in spending half a trillion dollars a year on weapons than on alleviating poverty, and probably not even make a tiny dent in the problem. The same is true of every other person in the world. To say nothing of the fact that mobilizing all those people and producing a sociologically seismic shift in priorities, if it is possible at all, will take years to accomplish. In the meantime, millions more will starve to death.

 

"God", being all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful, knows all of the above and yet chooses to do nothing. Which means one of two things:

 

1. He/she/it is negligent, willfully blind, or malicious.

 

2. He/she/it doesn't exist.

[littleplanet]

I don't think God neglects anybody.

We do.

Children starve in Africa because of the neglect of humans.

 

Poverty exists in Africa because of many human mistakes and failings. African poverty historically has been the result of colonial oppression, foreign meddling, civil war, bad land management......all human failings.

Other than droughts and other weather-related catastrophes....that's it.

 

African resources have been exploited forever. Zambia - copper, coal Congo - rare earths South Africa - gold, diamonds Nigeria - oil.

 

Africa has hardly been invited to the Globalization party.

Globalized wealth has passed many Africans by. For political and economic reasons.

 

So people starve.

 

Who will change this?

People will, if they have the mettle for it.

[pureinheart]

There's a great limit to what one person can do. TD could sell all his possessions and use all his money to buy food for starving kids in Africa, talk himself hoarse trying to get others to do the same, petition his government that's far more interested in spending half a trillion dollars a year on weapons than on alleviating poverty, and probably not even make a tiny dent in the problem. The same is true of every other person in the world. To say nothing of the fact that mobilizing all those people and producing a sociologically seismic shift in priorities, if it is possible at all, will take years to accomplish. In the meantime, millions more will starve to death.

 

"God", being all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful, knows all of the above and yet chooses to do nothing. Which means one of two things:

 

1. He/she/it is negligent, willfully blind, or malicious.

 

2. He/she/it doesn't exist.

 

There is evidence that in fact one person can make national and world changes. It started with a thought, then an action and expanded from there.

[M30USA]

In addition to the above posters, please also remember that God must allow some of these things in order to let Satan's plan be seen for what it is. Yes, people suffer. But God wants to let everyone observe the result of Satan's authority on earth, as well as the compassion of his Spirit when those who follow the Spirit care for those in need. In effect, God gets more glory for these two reasons. As far as those who experience the suffering, did Jesus not say that they are blessed and that they will be more likely to find God since they will rely on him more?

Edited June 26, 2014 by M30USA

[Madman81]

There is evidence that in fact one person can make national and world changes. It started with a thought, then an action and expanded from there.

A statement which, while true, purports to answer the question while ignoring the following facts:

 

1. Such changes cannot happen overnight.

 

2. Such changes are difficult to accomplish in the best of circumstances.

 

3. Hundreds of thousands, and perhaps millions, will die waiting for those changes to happen.

 

And yet, "God" will do nothing in the meantime.

[M30USA]

A statement which, while true, purports to answer the question while ignoring the following facts:

 

1. Such changes cannot happen overnight.

 

2. Such changes are difficult to accomplish in the best of circumstances.

 

3. Hundreds of thousands, and perhaps millions, will die waiting for those changes to happen.

 

And yet, "God" will do nothing in the meantime.

 

Recall how the poor beggar who was covered in boils went to heaven and the rich man with plenty of food went to hell. God is just.

[pureinheart]

In addition to the above posters, please also remember that God must allow some of these things in order to let Satan's plan be seen for what it is. Yes, people suffer. But God wants to let everyone observe the result of Satan's authority on earth, as well as the compassion of his Spirit when those who follow the Spirit care for those in need. In effect, God gets more glory for these two reasons. As far as those who experience the suffering, did Jesus not say that they are blessed and that they will be more likely to find God since they will rely on him more?

 

A statement which, while true, purports to answer the question while ignoring the following facts:

 

1. Such changes cannot happen overnight.

 

2. Such changes are difficult to accomplish in the best of circumstances.

 

3. Hundreds of thousands, and perhaps millions, will die waiting for those changes to happen.

 

And yet, "God" will do nothing in the meantime.

 

My answer is the same as M30's. I put this on people and what LP described also.

 

Note, I know nothing of the politics in Africa, some of the governments appear to be very oppressive. I would venture to say that billions have poured into Africa over the decades. I remember in 1984 there was a major campaign (started by Michael Jackson?) to feed the people. Countless numbers of missionaries have aided in this effort over decades also. What happened? What went wrong. Did the world just pour money in to fill an immediate need or were the people trained grow their own food? If they were trained, did the government intervene and thwart the peoples efforts?

 

I do know that massive amounts of food over decades were confiscated in some parts and well as money. It never made it to the people.

 

Why haven't the people risen up against this stuff. Fear? Are they outnumbered or do they lack devices to protect themselves and overcome their oppressors?

[AnyaNova]

Please tell me?

 

God isn't neglecting them. God wants us desperately to reach and feed them.

 

The problem isn't God. The problem isn't us who want to help them. The problem isn't the children.

 

The problem are the harder-than-obsidian hearts of the African warlords who hoard the food and prevent the aid workers from being able to get there to feed the children because they care more about power.

 

The problem isn't God. The problem isn't most of us.

 

The problem is not older than time itself, but nearly as old.

 

Original sin.

 

It is interesting that you post this, because it was this very issue that made me realize original sin was truly a force in the world, and not just some concept dreamed up by Bible scholars.

[umirano]

If God has put a concern in your heart for starving children in Africa, maybe that's his way of providing an avenue for them to be taken care of--in which case, if you don't, the neglect falls on you and not him.

 

Oh, so to prove a point lets kids starve. Truly an all good god, isn't it. Pretty much anyone I know is more moral than your god then.

[dichotomy]

We (as in human kind) are responsible...

 

"Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you..."

 

Humans - meh - when ever we get a good deal (nice garden, nice earth, and all) we seem to screw it up don't we?

 

Free will... and all that comes with it....

Edited June 26, 2014 by dichotomy

[umirano]

Recall how the poor beggar who was covered in boils went to heaven and the rich man with plenty of food went to hell. God is just.

 

That didn't actually happen. It's a story. Apparently successfully lulling people into thinking everything will be ok.

[todreaminblue]

Please tell me?

 

 

you got any money........god gave you teh capacity to lend a hand and some cash and a heart that should care and want to help out.........interested....no....dont blame god for your inability....with me god has let me know one day at heart level ill be over there feeding kids on a mission spreading hope and showing heart...... if you dont want to do anything dont blame a god you dont believe in for he wont answer you if you dont believe........but i just did...because i have a burnign desire to maek a difference however little ill do it...and i do give money.....worked vounteer for save the children....... because god has hands on earth including your two hands but then some people would prefer to lay blame elsewhere instead of helping out themselves...which is your agency to do so of course.....god gave that too.....agency to choose to make a difference ..................deb

[Haydn]

Started by Bob Geldolf in the UK.

 

Maybe they don`t have the 2nd amendment. Not sure Jesus did either.

 

 

 

 

My answer is the same as M30's. I put this on people and what LP described also.

 

Note, I know nothing of the politics in Africa, some of the governments appear to be very oppressive. I would venture to say that billions have poured into Africa over the decades. I remember in 1984 there was a major campaign (started by Michael Jackson?) to feed the people. Countless numbers of missionaries have aided in this effort over decades also. What happened? What went wrong. Did the world just pour money in to fill an immediate need or were the people trained grow their own food? If they were trained, did the government intervene and thwart the peoples efforts?

 

I do know that massive amounts of food over decades were confiscated in some parts and well as money. It never made it to the people.

 

Why haven't the people risen up against this stuff. Fear? Are they outnumbered or do they lack devices to protect themselves and overcome their oppressors?

[M30USA]

Oh, so to prove a point lets kids starve. Truly an all good god, isn't it. Pretty much anyone I know is more moral than your god then.

 

Your critique of God implies that you know a better way and are higher than him. Please tell us what God should be doing in this matter.

 

God speaking:

 

“Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements—surely you know!" (Job 38:2-5 ESV)

Edited June 26, 2014 by M30USA

[veggirl]

In addition to the above posters, please also remember that God must allow some of these things in order to let Satan's plan be seen for what it is. Yes, people suffer. But God wants to let everyone observe the result of Satan's authority on earth, as well as the compassion of his Spirit when those who follow the Spirit care for those in need. In effect, God gets more glory for these two reasons. As far as those who experience the suffering, did Jesus not say that they are blessed and that they will be more likely to find God since they will rely on him more?

 

Where do you see the compassion in gods spirit in this example? I wonder how he chooses which poor folks to have to suffer. I mean if I literally starving to death I can't say I'd find your words comforting. What reason do those kids have to believe ? None. So I guess they can look forward to eternal suffering too. Wow.

[M30USA]

Where do you see the compassion in gods spirit in this example? I wonder how he chooses which poor folks to have to suffer. I mean if I literally starving to death I can't say I'd find your words comforting. What reason do those kids have to believe ? None. So I guess they can look forward to eternal suffering too. Wow.

 

Read the Sermon on the Mount. There's your answer.

[ponchsox]

We are born into a world of sin and evil. Human flesh = sin.

 

The good news is by faith and our savior Jesus Christ who paid the price for us we can repent and become right with God before our judgement.

[TylerDurdenn]

Your critique of God implies that you know a better way and are higher than him. Please tell us what God should be doing in this matter.

 

God speaking:

 

“Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements—surely you know!" (Job 38:2-5 ESV)

 

Erm starving kids need.... Food? He created the world so why can't he create food for these people? He's starting to sound pretty cruel if he is using people to test others.

 

Religion showing it's true colours.

 

[Clair93]

In addition to the above posters, please also remember that God must allow some of these things in order to let Satan's plan be seen for what it is. Yes, people suffer. But God wants to let everyone observe the result of Satan's authority on earth, as well as the compassion of his Spirit when those who follow the Spirit care for those in need. In effect, God gets more glory for these two reasons. As far as those who experience the suffering, did Jesus not say that they are blessed and that they will be more likely to find God since they will rely on him more?

 

So you're saying, according to Christian morality, allowing Satan plan to unfold is a better, morally superior and more justified action than helping starving/dying children.

 

Can't God let the world see the superiority of the "Spirit Care" without the suffering? I thought the God character in Christian dogma was all-knowing, all-powerful.

[ponchsox]

Erm starving kids need.... Food? He created the world so why can't he create food for these people? He's starting to sound pretty cruel if he is using people to test others.

 

Religion showing it's true colours.

 

 

God doesn't owe us anything. He blesses those who put their faith in him. You should read the bible and learn who God is and how great he is.

[M30USA]

Erm starving kids need.... Food? He created the world so why can't he create food for these people? He's starting to sound pretty cruel if he is using people to test others.

 

Religion showing it's true colours.

 

 

Scenario:

 

Americans send food to third world nation. The food gets intercepted by war lords and the people die. Whose fault is it for the people dying?

[anne1707]

Scenario:

 

Americans send food to third world nation. The food gets intercepted by war lords and the people die. Whose fault is it for the people dying?

 

The Americans funding the warlords.